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Trial will offer some of the first human data on microbe transplants and weight.
'The freeze-dried poop method' might not sound like a weight-loss strategy that would catch on, but—as some researchers are now testing—it may be an effective way to slim down.
In a randomized, controlled clinical trial starting this year, researchers will test out such a fecal formula for the treatment of obesity. They'll also try to glean critical details about the human microbiome and its role in our health and metabolism. The trial, led by Elaine Yu, an assistant professor and clinical researcher at Massachusetts General Hospital, will involve taking fecal samples from lean, healthy donors then freeze-drying the stool, putting a gram or two into capsules, and giving them to 20 obese patients.
Such poop-packed pills, which are designed to replace a person's intestinal microbes with those from a donor via their feces, have proven effective at treating tenacious gut infections. This has led researchers to ponder whether the transplants could remedy other health problems, including obesity and metabolic disorders. A few animal studies and some anecdotal data in humans suggests the answer is yes—and Yu hopes to get a final answer with the upcoming trial.
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I remember reading about fecal transplants being used as a treatment for something that I can't recall. Now you can take it orally.
			 
			
			
				It's used to treat C. difficile.  It's a bacteria overgrowth usually caused from using anti-biotics.  They do fecal transplants by putting a hose down one end or up the other.  
Frankly, I'd rather be fat.
			
			
			
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That's what I was thinking. With my luck it wouldn't work and I'd be left with shit breath. :laugh:
			 
			
			
				I should get credit for being a pioneer on this issue.  I've been telling people to eat shit for years!
			
			
			
				Something like 60% of the average person's non-water weight is bacteria, the majority of it performing beneficial functions.  This means that more of the mass that makes up "you" is actually other life forms than your own biological components.  Effectively, we are symbiotes with the bacteria that run many of the important functions in our bodies.  
Despite the terrible PR move, this treatment isn't so much about "eating shit" as it is about trying to correct a flaw in the culture of your symbiotic partner.  However, simply recognizing that this arrangement exists, understanding the needs of your partners, and working with them would probably go a long way towards preventing problems in the first place.  For instance, slaughtering them with broad spectrum antibiotics and then not actively repairing the damage could very easily allow an unfriendly dictator to take control of the colony and perform a little bit of selective genocide with not enough natives left to resist (like C. Difficile, but there are other less extreme imbalances as well).  I don't think we generally understand enough about the conditions that benefit or harm our colonies of little friends to know how to correct issues, other than by heavy handed solutions like the subject transplant, but I'm sure subtler solutions exist.
I suspect most people don't really want to think about the fact that their bodies are riddled and teeming with bacteria, nor that they are completely reliant on them for survival, but it is something we should all think about.
			
			
			
				I actually love that I'm a walking bio system :)
			
			
			
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Despite the terrible PR move, this treatment isn't so much about "eating shit" as it is about trying to correct a flaw in the culture of your symbiotic partner.  However, simply recognizing that this arrangement exists, understanding the needs of your partners, and working with them would probably go a long way towards preventing problems in the first place.  For instance, slaughtering them with broad spectrum antibiotics and then not actively repairing the damage could very easily allow an unfriendly dictator to take control of the colony and perform a little bit of selective genocide with not enough natives left to resist (like C. Difficile, but there are other less extreme imbalances as well).  I don't think we generally understand enough about the conditions that benefit or harm our colonies of little friends to know how to correct issues, other than by heavy handed solutions like the subject transplant,
Yeah, it's called "urine therapy".  ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
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Yeah, it's called "urine therapy".  ac_biggrin
Lol.  Jackass.
			 
			
			
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Apparently puddles of blue-green algae slime have managed to quickly and effectively navigate a labyrinth to reach a food source.
Whenever I say something mean, it's my bacterial culture talking, I swear.
			 
			
			
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Despite the terrible PR move, this treatment isn't so much about "eating shit" as it is about trying to correct a flaw in the culture of your symbiotic partner.  However, simply recognizing that this arrangement exists, understanding the needs of your partners, and working with them would probably go a long way towards preventing problems in the first place.  For instance, slaughtering them with broad spectrum antibiotics and then not actively repairing the damage could very easily allow an unfriendly dictator to take control of the colony and perform a little bit of selective genocide with not enough natives left to resist (like C. Difficile, but there are other less extreme imbalances as well).  I don't think we generally understand enough about the conditions that benefit or harm our colonies of little friends to know how to correct issues, other than by heavy handed solutions like the subject transplant, but I'm sure subtler solutions exist.
I suspect most people don't really want to think about the fact that their bodies are riddled and teeming with bacteria, nor that they are completely reliant on them for survival, but it is something we should all think about.
Hello reel, it's so nice to see you again.
 ac_smile 
You are always so informative.
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Apparently puddles of blue-green algae slime have managed to quickly and effectively navigate a labyrinth to reach a food source.
Whenever I say something mean, it's my bacterial culture talking, I swear.
I'm going to have to use that next time.
			 
			
			
				I came across a web site awhile back about a company wanting to buy your poop.  I thought about it and checked into it because hey, if I can make some cash off of something I'm just going to flush anyways.. But sadly, it isn't available for prospective Canadians  :sad:
			
			
			
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				Renn, the way for you or anyone else to lose weight is simple:
1) Cut out the sugar, starchy foods, candies, cookies, pop, and other sweets
2) Cut out fats such as butter, high fructose corn syrup, soy based foods. Use Olive Oil instead
3) Eat a lot of wild salmon and asparagus, brocolli every day
4) Eat a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables, such as blueberries, cherries, and other dark fruits.
5) Drink freshly squeezed juice and other organic substances such as almonds
6) Drink/consume only high quality organic  skim milk from a reputable and local dairy.
In short, the overweight person should ingest as many organic foods as they can. Because they are live food which are essentially laxatives that make a person shit and piss out all the fat in their system.
An overweight person has fat everywhere in their body - in their stomachs, their intestines, their bloodstream, their brain. So if a person can flush out all the fats then they can start shedding weight.
The other thing, after a heaping helping of organic foods aka laxatives, then go out and work up a sweat in a gym or a walking trail. this gets the body working and maximizes the effects of the organic foods. It will accelerate the flushing process.
Anyways, I followed the above regimen for 4 months during the summer and lost 30 lbs.
It takes discipline but it works. 
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Despite the terrible PR move, this treatment isn't so much about "eating shit" as it is about trying to correct a flaw in the culture of your symbiotic partner.  However, simply recognizing that this arrangement exists, understanding the needs of your partners, and working with them would probably go a long way towards preventing problems in the first place.  For instance, slaughtering them with broad spectrum antibiotics and then not actively repairing the damage could very easily allow an unfriendly dictator to take control of the colony and perform a little bit of selective genocide with not enough natives left to resist (like C. Difficile, but there are other less extreme imbalances as well).  I don't think we generally understand enough about the conditions that benefit or harm our colonies of little friends to know how to correct issues, other than by heavy handed solutions like the subject transplant,
Yeah, it's called "urine therapy".  ac_biggrin
I've been in therapy for years.
			 
			
			
				/waits for Renee to knock that one out of the park  :pop:
			
			
			
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Unfortunately there are so many options that I'm confused.
I think the old man may have actually found a way to shut me up. :laugh3:
			 
			
			
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1) Cut out the sugar, starchy foods, candies, cookies, pop, and other sweets
2) Cut out fats such as butter, high fructose corn syrup, soy based foods. Use Olive Oil instead
3) Eat a lot of wild salmon and asparagus, brocolli every day
4) Eat a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables, such as blueberries, cherries, and other dark fruits.
5) Drink freshly squeezed juice and other organic substances such as almonds
6) Drink/consume only high quality organic  skim milk from a reputable and local dairy.
In short, the overweight person should ingest as many organic foods as they can. Because they are live food which are essentially laxatives that make a person shit and piss out all the fat in their system.
An overweight person has fat everywhere in their body - in their stomachs, their intestines, their bloodstream, their brain. So if a person can flush out all the fats then they can start shedding weight.
The other thing, after a heaping helping of organic foods aka laxatives, then go out and work up a sweat in a gym or a walking trail. this gets the body working and maximizes the effects of the organic foods. It will accelerate the flushing process.
Anyways, I followed the above regimen for 4 months during the summer and lost 30 lbs.
It takes discipline but it works. 
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How many times do you have to be told that your unsolicited weight loss advice is unnecessary and most of all unwanted. You don't have the slightest clue about me or what I have endured in my lifetime. 
Now, do I have to really get nasty before you STFU or are you so thick that I need to find you and hit you square in the face with a brick?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
Now, do I have to really get nasty before you STFU or are you so thick that I need to find you and hit you square in the face with a brick?
Well Renn...it wasn't intended to be demeaning. 
I'm jes' relatin' my own personal experiences.
Other thing, I'd be extremely hesitant to push down any human waste inside my body.
Whatever the so called 'experts' claim, it can make you very sick.
I noticed Reel made a comment about 'blue-green algae'. Well, I tried a form of that once called spirulina.
The result was, I got quite ill. And it's supposed to be 'safe' according to the 'experts'.
I noticed I was getting stomach cramps, and then I felt quite ill for a few days.
Once I stopped taking the stuff, it was back ta normal.
Y'know, the way that article reads - essentially is that the fecal waste serves the same function as organic foods.
That is, to activate a person's metabolism so that their internal organs such as the kidneys, intestines and liver will work harder to push out the fat in their bodies.
I think that's what this probiotic stuff found in these specialty yogurts does as well. I sure get the runs after eatin' that stuff.
What I noticed during weight loss is that results may not show for several months. Maybe a pound or two is shed in that time. But if a person flushes out the fats in the toilet, then the weight loss after the 3rd or 4th month was quite rapid.  So, if you start on an organic diet now, filled with vegetables, vegetable fruit juices coupled with exercise, you may being to see results come around May - which would be an excellent time to accelerate the weight loss program and healthy food treatment, because of course in the summer, everyone sweats harder, exercise more and by the end of this summer, the results should show.
I found the key/secret was flushing out the fats first - which reside largely in your tummy, intestines. Then the weight loss will follow. The reason many give up is they don't see the results right away. But weight loss doesn't work that way. Usually it isn't instantaneous. It comes after the fats have been dumped out or sweated out of the body first. Anyways, ingesting organic foods is like eating food which is 'alive', as opposed to 'dead foods' - stuff like refined foods - the stuff you see on the supermarket shelves or in fast food joints.
Some 'experts' claim the flushing method doesn't work, but that's more or less what these laxative/enema treatments do. A person fasts, and drinks the solution, which is usually concentrated fruit juices which have been sittin' on the shelves for months. But you can get the benefits of these by making the juices yourself with a juicer.
One of my favs was red beet juice, with celery and apple, all freshly squeezed. Then followed by an hour of exercise in the evenings gets the metabolism goin' before you go to bed. Then don't eat anything afterwards.
Anyways, when I was goin' through weight loss, my diet was pretty boring for 4  months. It was the same damn thing every day. Wild Salmon, brocolli fried in olive oil. acai berry extract mixed in with dark berry juice - blueberry, pomengranate. Lots of almonds. Dairy products limited to organic skim milk. No beer, cookies or sweets. No stuff made with white sugar or white bread, high yeast stuff like pasta. Then go exercise for an hour or two. Then usually I'd crap out the waste. Like I said, hardly any weight loss for months.
anyways, if I hadn't gone on a diet back then, I'm sure by now I'd be way overweight. But the diet helped keep my weight down, even if it comes back, it's not as bad as it coulda been.
			 
			
			
				MOTHER FUCKER! :oeudC:
			
			
			
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Well Renn, you kin diss my easy, free method, or you can choose to spend hundreds, thousands on the next weight loss cure which will put a vacuum cleaner to yer wallet. Or that other hair-brained idea which tells you to consume human chit. Man -where is that gonna lead, I tell ya. And those people won't be around when scores of disillusioned and likely ill patients find out it didn't work that well for them. Just take the money, hightail it outta Dodge City an' run, eh Renn?
Y'know, everything I'm sayin' can be found in books like Gary Null's The Joys of Juicing - in which he advocates a fresh fruit/vegetable diet ground down in a blender, and then you drink it fresh - right away. He and others in his field state that the fresher the better, because the longer  you wait, the less potent the juices become.

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Anyways, I have a Bulgarian doctor friend whom I met in Canada. His speciality was weight loss and running a clinic back in his native Bulgaria. But even he said he more or less copied everything Gary Null said. Patients from all over the world come to his clinic on the Black Sea in Bulgaria. But it's not the bootcamp type like you'd see in  the USA or Canada. It's more therepeutic, low stress, no beating up one's self psychologically or mentally. Then he puts the patients on a Joy of Juicing type diet.
From what I gather it's quite successful. 
anyways, if you went to a Naturopath, they'd prescribe more or less the same thing. Some fancy herbs, lottsa antioxidants, but essentially tearin' a page outta Gary Null's playbook.
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
			 
			
			
				Please God, give me permission to kill this guy.
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I know I've posted this before but it's waaaay too appropriate right now to pass up.
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Yeah, she aint bad lookin'
Y'know, I think if Renn did what I told her, picked up a Gary Null's book, shed the pounds, she could have the slim attractive face she's always wanted.
Just takes discipline.
An' if she caint doit alone, then join some support group ta get others to encourage her.
I think this is just a case of someone not believing in themselves, that they can do it.
			 
			
			
				Again Joe, you don't know anything about me. Stop acting like you do and stop creeping on me.

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				What is with Joe and oddstain talking about appearance on an anonymous forum. Take their likes to FB where that shit belongs.
			
			
			
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...anyways Renn, if yer really serious about this diet, I'd suggest, don' doit.
I had a relative who drank ditchwater on a farm & he died a painful death at a young age.
Thought he was indestrucable, but apparently, he wasn't.
I'm quite positive that it was something like e-coli poisoning or septicimia.
In other words drinking water laced with cow and animal shit.
It's all bad for you. It's the most toxic substance which comes outta a human or animal body.
It's not called waste fer nothin'.
			 
			
			
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...anyways Renn, if yer really serious about this diet, I'd suggest, don' doit.
I had a relative who drank ditchwater on a farm & he died a painful death at a young age.
Thought he was indestrucable, but apparently, he wasn't.
I'm quite positive that it was something like e-coli poisoning or septicimia.
In other words drinking water laced with cow and animal shit.
It's all bad for you. It's the most toxic substance which comes outta a human or animal body.
It's not called waste fer nothin'.
Who said Renee is on a diet?
			 
			
			
				Joe go the fuck away. You are ridiculous and annoying. 
In fact you are so annoying that you make me what to ingest poisonous bacteria just so I don't have to see your posts.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
In fact you are so annoying that you make me what to ingest poisonous bacteria just so I don't have to see your posts.
I thought Joe was an alright guy a while ago despite the catholic conversion thing. Now he's cheap shotting ceec and busting your chops.
			 
			
			
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In fact you are so annoying that you make me what to ingest poisonous bacteria just so I don't have to see your posts.
I thought Joe was an alright guy a while ago despite the catholic conversion thing. Now he's cheap shotting ceec and busting your chops.
Joe is an idiot. :laugh3: Don't worry about it.
			 
			
			
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In fact you are so annoying that you make me what to ingest poisonous bacteria just so I don't have to see your posts.
I thought Joe was an alright guy a while ago despite the catholic conversion thing. Now he's cheap shotting ceec and busting your chops.
Joe is an idiot. :laugh3: Don't worry about it.
Renn... may comments weren't meant to be insulting or demeaning.
I jes' comment on whatever you post/write.
And if you post comments about dieting or your weight, I think it's fair comment, as long as they are not meant to insult, attack or belittle.
Heck if you didn't want anyone to comment on it,then why didn't you advertise yourself as a size 2 supermodel?
Although there may be people who may know who you are in real life, most don't, so a forum such as this one provides you with a sufficient amount of anonymity so that you should be able to talk openly about a subject which you may not want to talk about in public. In other words, most people who read these forums don't cast any judgment upon you. That's the purpose of an anonymous forum, so that people can open up, tell others about their situation, and leave their public lives/selves behind. Dieting, weight watching is a common problem in the USA, Canada, and Mexico. It's not anything to be ashamed about as it afflicts a large portion of the population in all those countries in North America.
Anyways, I often make joke about myself, and others make jokes about me.
You can continue to do so if ya want. I don't care.
I don't start cryin' ta the hissyfit police if someone says somethin' about me off-color.
Jes' take it with a grain a' salt. Actually, I enjoy your salty tongued rants an insults.
Often they're funny and make me laugh. I'm never cryin' when ya insult me, Actually, I'm usually laughin'.
I think it's goddam funny when you taunt me about my past limo life.
 Anyways, the kinda characters an' bimbos I've driven around, and the stories that go along with 'em are enough ta make anyone crack up.
Pink candy-smellin' perfume.  ac_toofunny  Now, that's funny, man! And so true. But at least the eye candy shore looked great!  ac_toofunny 
Anyways, I wouldn't hold it against ya, if you decided liposuction or getting your stomach stapled was the way ta go.
If it happen to add 10, 15, 25 years of quality time to your life, I'd say go for it.
But before trying such drastic measures, or this chit diet you've mentioned, I'd try Gary Null's or the one my Bulgarian doctor friend prescribed, which is essentially the same thing, and has enjoyed a great deal of success. Lot cheaper, completely natural, no drugs, no unhealthy bacteria.
And only if that doesn't work, then try more drastic measures.
			 
			
			
				As usual Joe you missed the point of the entire thread and went off on one of your flights of fancy.
I posted this thread for it's humor value as well as it's scientific interest. How you jumped from an article on research about treatments for gut bacteria replacement to me going on some kind of frankly dangerous, unproven, and medically unavailable diet is beyond reason.
Next time try to stay with the post and refrain from going off on one of your made up diatribes that have nothing to do with the subject. Once again you over thought the subject all the way to irrelevancy. 
Jesus H. Fucking Christ, I don't know if you are purposely obtuse or if you just can help it. In any event, I find you to be a complete and utter putz. :laugh:
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
I posted this thread for it's humor value as well as it's scientific interest. How you jumped from an article on research about treatments for gut bacteria replacement to me going on some kind of frankly dangerous, unproven, and medically unavailable diet is beyond reason.
Next time try to stay with the post and refrain from going off on one of your made up diatribes that have nothing to do with the subject. Once again you over thought the subject all the way to irrelevancy. 
Jesus H. Fucking Christ, I don't know if you are purposely obtuse or if you just can help it. In any event, I find you to be a complete and utter putz. :laugh:
For some unknown reason he wants to get a reaction out of you. He's doing the same thing to Herm in the divorce thread.
			 
			
			
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I posted this thread for it's humor value as well as it's scientific interest. How you jumped from an article on research about treatments for gut bacteria replacement to me going on some kind of frankly dangerous, unproven, and medically unavailable diet is beyond reason.
Next time try to stay with the post and refrain from going off on one of your made up diatribes that have nothing to do with the subject. Once again you over thought the subject all the way to irrelevancy. 
Jesus H. Fucking Christ, I don't know if you are purposely obtuse or if you just can help it. In any event, I find you to be a complete and utter putz. :laugh:
For some unknown reason he wants to get a reaction out of you. He's doing the same thing to Herm in the divorce thread.
 
Well he tries, I suppose he should get decent marks for effort.  :laugh:
He sure is a verbose mother fucker.  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				^Yep, his stories are long.
			
			
			
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I posted this thread for it's humor value as well as it's scientific interest. How you jumped from an article on research about treatments for gut bacteria replacement to me going on some kind of frankly dangerous, unproven, and medically unavailable diet is beyond reason.
Next time try to stay with the post and refrain from going off on one of your made up diatribes that have nothing to do with the subject. Once again you over thought the subject all the way to irrelevancy. 
Jesus H. Fucking Christ, I don't know if you are purposely obtuse or if you just can help it. In any event, I find you to be a complete and utter putz. :laugh:
For some unknown reason he wants to get a reaction out of you. He's doing the same thing to Herm in the divorce thread.
No, more like I sympathize with Herman and all the divorced dads out there.
In fact I'm takin' one in for 2 weeks cuz he's havin' major problems with his ex.
I don' wanna doit, but he asked for help to get away from her, so I agreed.
It seems even if if it's not my problem, it affects me and I caint escape their problems even when I try ta shut them out.
It's like they're gittin' eaten alive by their ex wives, etc.
a guy really gets devoured in a divorce.
Increasingly, I'm beginning to realize that.
			 
			
			
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Eating shit should come natural for all of us when you realize that is what we are fed.
			 
			
			
				We are mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
			
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
Yes, that's my pudgy hobbit face. :laugh3: 
But don't get excited, I don't look anywhere near that cute in RL. The avie is a trick of photo editor magic.
			 
			
			
				I would throw one in ya.  ac_lovestruck
			
			
			
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That's very sweet.   :icon_wink: Are you now channeling Odinson? :laugh:  
Well, hopefully your....uhm...."thing" is longer than your legs.  :ohmy:  :
			 
			
			
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That's very sweet.   :icon_wink: Are you now channeling Odinson? :laugh:  
Well, hopefully your....uhm...."thing" is longer than your legs.  :ohmy:  :
Lol
To soon?
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
Yes, that's my pudgy hobbit face. :laugh3: 
But don't get excited, I don't look anywhere near that cute in RL. The avie is a trick of photo editor magic.
You mean you don't have purple eyes and glittery hair?
My whole life is a lie. At least you don't have horns. :shock:
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
Yes, that's my pudgy hobbit face. :laugh3: 
But don't get excited, I don't look anywhere near that cute in RL. The avie is a trick of photo editor magic.
You mean you don't have purple eyes and glittery hair?
My whole life is a lie. At least you don't have horns. :shock:
No my eyes are not purple, they're bright yellow and funny you should mention horns; I took extra care to crop them out of the pic. :laugh3: 
You mortals aren't quite ready for my true physical form. One look would melt your brain. :laugh3:
			 
			
			
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
Yes, that's my pudgy hobbit face. :laugh3: 
But don't get excited, I don't look anywhere near that cute in RL. The avie is a trick of photo editor magic.
You mean you don't have purple eyes and glittery hair?
My whole life is a lie. At least you don't have horns. :shock:
No my eyes are not purple, they're bright yellow and funny you should mention horns; I took extra care to crop them out of the pic. :laugh3: 
You mortals aren't quite ready for my true physical form. One look would melt your brain. :laugh3:
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Very nice avatar Renee.
Is that really her? If so, she's very cute!  ac_lovestruck
Yes, that's my pudgy hobbit face. :laugh3: 
But don't get excited, I don't look anywhere near that cute in RL. The avie is a trick of photo editor magic.
You mean you don't have purple eyes and glittery hair?
My whole life is a lie. At least you don't have horns. :shock:
No my eyes are not purple, they're bright yellow and funny you should mention horns; I took extra care to crop them out of the pic. :laugh3: 
You mortals aren't quite ready for my true physical form. One look would melt your brain. :laugh3:
I guess we should take heed and avoid letting you assume your ultimate form, eh kissyface?  :tease:
			 
			
			
				Shin, how the fuck are ya buddy?