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Title: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2016, 08:04:17 PM
WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 22, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
We hate to be left out.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 22, 2016, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


Of course not! Them two are not too different from each other. :yahoo:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 22, 2016, 08:45:14 PM
Themselves fighting words Azhya!



(Just kidding - it's pretty true.)



Crow - no clue what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2016, 08:46:32 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35388594



Read it, and weep....
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35388594



Read it, and weep....

I just heard about this tragedy Mr. Crowley..



I am going to Google where that community is.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
La Loche is a community of 3400 people in North West Saskatchewan..



It is not far from Fort McMurray, Alberta.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"La Loche is a community of 3400 people in North West Saskatchewan..



It is not far from Fort McMurray, Alberta.

It's Native country up there. Lots of problems with alcohol and violence, but you never expect this.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2016, 11:07:10 PM
If it was an internecine act, that would be extremely unusual in native populations and communities.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: cc on January 22, 2016, 11:12:16 PM
Damn!!!



Update - CTV & CBC are now saying 4 dead, some wounded
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"If it was an internecine act, that would be extremely unusual in native populations and communities.

You are joking right? They had a teacher that quit last year because a student broke into his or her house and stabbed the teacher. It's a violent place. But you still don't expect this.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2016, 11:34:18 PM
Oh, I know about their violence...but killing on that scale is not common. We have aborigines here too.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Oh, I know about their violence...but killing on that scale is not common. We have aborigines here too.

You are right. Mass killing is rare in remote aboriginal communities, but violence is common. So is alcohol and sexual abuse.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2016, 11:42:59 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Oh, I know about their violence...but killing on that scale is not common. We have aborigines here too.

You are right. Mass killing is rare in remote aboriginal communities, but violence is common. So is alcohol and sexual abuse.

So sad Herman and nobody seems to know how to fix these problems.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 23, 2016, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: cc on January 23, 2016, 12:15:40 AM
Shut the fk up U 2.



I believe it  was another horrible northern aboriginal tragedy .... not something  to "crow" and "joe" about
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 12:29:42 AM
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?

 ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 23, 2016, 01:06:37 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:14:09 AM
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.

But you said it was possibly the result of a sagging economy?



Has there ever been a school shooting that happened because the adolescent assailant was upset about a sagging economy?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:16:10 AM
This was just another kid with no future - so he decided to tell the world that (we) had better start paying attention, because there are many, many more kids out there just like him, and some of them are not nearly as nice. =(
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:16:52 AM
^Ur being trolled ffs!! :001_rolleyes:



Edit, not you EB, the person above you.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:20:16 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"This was just another kid with no future - so he decided to tell the world that (we) had better start paying attention, because there are many, many more kids out there just like him, and some of them are not nearly as nice. =(

I haven't read about that kid yet. But, that area is worse than Prince Albert. Still, this is usually an urban problem. It's not the type of violence you typically see in an aboriginal community.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:20:30 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.

But you said it was possibly the result of a sagging economy?



Has there ever been a school shooting that happened because the adolescent assailant was upset about a sagging economy?

I can just see a bunch of angry toddlers protesting the low dollar.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:22:49 AM
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Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:23:24 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.

But you said it was possibly the result of a sagging economy?



Has there ever been a school shooting that happened because the adolescent assailant was upset about a sagging economy?

I can just see a bunch of angry toddlers protesting the low dollar.  :laugh:

lol, my children have not been angry because of the rising cost of romaine lettuce.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:24:19 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Toddler-with-Fist.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-c%20...%20h-Fist.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Toddler-with-Fist.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

Oh my goodness I love that picture, so cute.

 ac_wub
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:32:40 AM
It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 23, 2016, 01:33:11 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Shut the fk up U 2.



I believe it  was another horrible northern aboriginal tragedy .... not something  to "crow" and "joe" about


Scuse me???



WTF did I say??
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 23, 2016, 01:38:36 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.

But you said it was possibly the result of a sagging economy?



Has there ever been a school shooting that happened because the adolescent assailant was upset about a sagging economy?


well...I think it's more complicated than that. The adolescent may not be aware of the latest news stories are, but they feel the repercussions of it. ie - kid comes from a dysfunctional home. The Dad is a drunk who himself can't cope with his own economic situation, comes home, takes it out on his wife up and his kids. Beats them up, screams at, abuses them. Crying, screaming, yelling in the home. All in all, just a bad situation. So of course, the Kid doesn't do well in school, doesn't relate that well with life outside the home.



I had a rather upsetting experience yesterday with a wife beater and his girlfriend at the end resolved not to see one another again. The guy is a drunk who verbally and physically assaults his girlfriend on a regular basis. He hardly sees his son who's largely growing up without a father around. They father is economically stressed, and he takes it out on his girlfriend, blames her everything. On the rare occasion the son is around, he sometimes witnesses his father's violent episodes. Of course, the son doesn't know what's going on in the grown up world and the economy, as he's just a grade school kid. But nevertheless he internalizes the problems his Dad is experiencing. The Dad is not a very good role model but what little the son learns from him, he picks up and of course, it's not the right way to live. At the same time, it's his only glimpse of what an ideal family should be, so he'll likely carry on his father's flawed behavioural patterns when he grows up.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:40:44 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:45:31 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:46:56 AM
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"WTF?



Are you guys mimicking your southern neighbours?


quite possibly, just another sign of a sagging economy.

When the economy sputters, the cracks begin to show.

The society is on edge.

People are stressed. They are not happy. They become depressed what they hear on the news and see on television. Times get tough.

People resort to extreme behavior more than they would during good times.



...it effects people everywhere.

And all the influences which contribute to the violence become exacerbated

It was a high school aged boy though JOE..



Doesn't one have to have a job first before being stressed about losing it?


Bad Times affect Kids too, Fashionista.

And it isn't just economic. It's social too.

We live in socially challenging, and extreme times as well.

People become harder and meaner.

And it affects the families too, not just the adults.

I've noticed the change from several years ago.

We live in a meaner more unforgiving society now.

Surely as a religious person, you may have noticed it.

But you said it was possibly the result of a sagging economy?



Has there ever been a school shooting that happened because the adolescent assailant was upset about a sagging economy?


well...I think it's more complicated than that. The adolescent may not be aware of the latest news stories are, but they feel the repercussions of it. ie - kid comes from a dysfunctional home. The Dad is a drunk who himself can't cope with his own economic situation, comes home, takes it out on his wife up and his kids. Beats them up, screams at, abuses them. Crying, screaming, yelling in the home. All in all, just a bad situation. So of course, the Kid doesn't do well in school, doesn't relate that well with life outside the home.



I had a rather upsetting experience yesterday with a wife beater and his girlfriend at the end resolved not to see one another again. The guy is a drunk who verbally and physically assaults his girlfriend on a regular basis. He hardly sees his son who's largely growing up without a father around. They father is economically stressed, and he takes it out on his girlfriend, blames her everything. On the rare occasion the son is around, he sometimes witnesses his father's violent episodes. Of course, the son doesn't know what's going on in the grown up world and the economy, as he's just a grade school kid. But nevertheless he internalizes the problems his Dad is experiencing. The Dad is not a very good role model but what little the son learns from him, he picks up and of course, it's not the right way to live. At the same time, it's his only glimpse of what an ideal family should be, so he'll likely carry on his father's flawed behavioural patterns when he grows up.

Thank you for not immediately blaming it on the kid being aboriginal. It shows you're a lot wiser than people give you credit for.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 01:48:10 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:49:15 AM
Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:53:35 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:

I think it might be some unusual colour and slimy by the time it is delivered easter bunny..



I like fresh produce too, but if you don't have your own yard to grow vegetables, can you join a community garden?



We have a few of them in Calgary..



They are popular with apartment and condo dwellers.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

No, but some shit stirring assholes will automatically assume that anyway.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 02:29:42 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:

I think it might be some unusual colour and slimy by the time it is delivered easter bunny..



I like fresh produce too, but if you don't have your own yard to grow vegetables, can you join a community garden?



We have a few of them in Calgary..



They are popular with apartment and condo dwellers.

I'm too lazy to grow my own, but if things keep going the way they have been I might just have to.  ac_unsure
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 02:31:20 AM
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:31:41 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:

I think it might be some unusual colour and slimy by the time it is delivered easter bunny..



I like fresh produce too, but if you don't have your own yard to grow vegetables, can you join a community garden?



We have a few of them in Calgary..



They are popular with apartment and condo dwellers.

I'm too lazy to grow my own, but if things keep going the way they have been I might just have to.  ac_unsure

Growing your own is not as cheap as it used to be..



It's still considerably cheaper though.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 02:35:31 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:

I think it might be some unusual colour and slimy by the time it is delivered easter bunny..



I like fresh produce too, but if you don't have your own yard to grow vegetables, can you join a community garden?



We have a few of them in Calgary..



They are popular with apartment and condo dwellers.

I'm too lazy to grow my own, but if things keep going the way they have been I might just have to.  ac_unsure

Growing your own is not as cheap as it used to be..



It's still considerably cheaper though.

Has the price of sunlight gone up?   ac_wot
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:37:08 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:40:44 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "easter bunny"It is cute isn't it. =))



And as for the price of lettuce..  $3.75?!!!

Ha! Good luck with that Mr. lettuce tycoon! I'd sooner grow my own!  acc_angry

Is that for romaine hearts, romaine bunches or iceberg lettuce heads?



We grow romaine lettuce in our garden each year easter bunny..



It's tasty and hearty enough to withstand our quick changes in weather.
I'm not sure. I think it was iceberg. In any case you want to sell some?   :icon_wink:

No, but I would be happy to give you some.

 ac_smile

Can you mail lettuce?  :laugh:

I think it might be some unusual colour and slimy by the time it is delivered easter bunny..



I like fresh produce too, but if you don't have your own yard to grow vegetables, can you join a community garden?



We have a few of them in Calgary..



They are popular with apartment and condo dwellers.

I'm too lazy to grow my own, but if things keep going the way they have been I might just have to.  ac_unsure

Growing your own is not as cheap as it used to be..



It's still considerably cheaper though.

Has the price of sunlight gone up?   ac_wot

lol, vegetables that are started in green houses will rise in price this year..



Even seeds will be more expensive, and seeds are hit and miss.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:49:09 AM
Oh I don't know about that. The old lady grows a pretty mean garden from scratch on our prairie oasis.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 02:50:02 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

Yes, it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people feeling short changed. =(
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:55:28 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

Yes, it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people feeling short changed. =(

You know what he was feeling do you?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:58:01 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
You know what he was feeling do you?

What have you done Herm. You never invite a white, left coast occutard to talk about people's fucking feelings. They'll give you their opinion ffs. :beurk:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 03:04:06 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

Yes, it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people feeling short changed. =(

You know what he was feeling do you?

Yes. As a matter of fact I fucking well do.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: easter bunny on January 23, 2016, 03:04:43 AM
If it weren't for God's direct intervention...
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: asal on January 23, 2016, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

I just want to know if this was domestic.  Most killings are domestic.  I'll be surprised if whoever the shooter(s) was didn't know the victims.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: "asal"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

I just want to know if this was domestic.  Most killings are domestic.  I'll be surprised if whoever the shooter(s) was didn't know the victims.

Good morning asal,  it's so nice to see you this morning.

 ac_hithere

Yesterday, I didn't have many details..



I think he was a student at the school.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: asal on January 23, 2016, 12:40:37 PM
domestic:


QuoteFour people died on Friday, including a teacher and two relatives of the alleged shooter, who were fatally shot in a La Loche home before the shooter entered the school at around 1 p.m. and began shooting. Multiple other victims in the school were injured, but details about the number of victims and the extent of their injuries were not available.


Meant to kill his relatives, and other people were killed out of anger maybe to get notoriety.



//http://www.ottawasun.com/2016/01/22/saskatchewan-school-under-lockdown
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: asal on January 23, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "asal"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

I just want to know if this was domestic.  Most killings are domestic.  I'll be surprised if whoever the shooter(s) was didn't know the victims.

Good morning asal,  it's so nice to see you this morning.

 ac_hithere

Yesterday, I didn't have many details..



I think he was a student at the school.


Morning Fash  ac_hithere



The cbc story didn't have much detail - but the link I posted at least mentioned that the shooter knew at least his relatives.



It's not "Canada's shame" it's just domestic violence.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: "asal"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "asal"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "Herman"Was there anyone here who said this mass shooting happened because the kid was aboriginal?

I think I may have been the first one to bring it up. It would have happened sooner or late anyway.  ac_dunno

I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

I just want to know if this was domestic.  Most killings are domestic.  I'll be surprised if whoever the shooter(s) was didn't know the victims.

Good morning asal,  it's so nice to see you this morning.

 ac_hithere

Yesterday, I didn't have many details..



I think he was a student at the school.


Morning Fash  ac_hithere



The cbc story didn't have much detail - but the link I posted at least mentioned that the shooter knew at least his relatives.



It's not "Canada's shame" it's just domestic violence.

This has happened in a lot of different countries..



I am cooking a turkey today, but I will look for further details when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: cc on January 23, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 23, 2016, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 23, 2016, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.


I'm aware of that fact but I'm speaking strictly on this issue and this thread.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.


I'm aware of that fact but I'm speaking strictly on this issue and this thread.

Look at Joe's posts. He has a high school aged kid killing people because the economy is sagging. WYH?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 23, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: "RW"Themselves fighting words Azhya!



(Just kidding - it's pretty true.)



Crow - no clue what you're talking about.


(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Toddler-with-Fist.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-c%20...%20h-Fist.jpg%22%3Ehttp://www.onpointpreparedness.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Toddler-with-Fist.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)



 :laugh:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 23, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.


I'm aware of that fact but I'm speaking strictly on this issue and this thread.

Look at Joe's posts. He has a high school aged kid killing people because the economy is sagging. WYH?


Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.



But to his credit he did not start the thread for his own personal motives or agenda. That "shame" belongs to the OP.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 23, 2016, 09:24:34 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.


 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.


 :thumbup:

Joe, is NOT an idiot. He likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 23, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.


 :thumbup:

Joe, is NOT an idiot. He likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.


Thats your opinion not mine. I say he IS a fucken Idiot.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.


 :thumbup:

Joe, is NOT an idiot. He likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.


Thats your opinion not mine. I say he IS a fucken Idiot.

No, I understand why you believe he's an idiot Keeps.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 23, 2016, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "Renee"
Joe is an idiot. There is no arguing that.


 :thumbup:

Joe, is NOT an idiot. He likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.


Thats your opinion not mine. I say he IS a fucken Idiot.

No, I understand why you believe he's an idiot Keeps.


Im glad were clear on this. ac_smile
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 23, 2016, 09:38:58 PM
And I understand why Shen thinks he's far more cunning and calculating than he's given credit for.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 23, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
Quote from: "RW"And I understand why Shen thinks he's far more cunning and calculating than he's given credit for.


Sorry, still dont see it.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
The shooter is seventeen.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 23, 2016, 09:48:58 PM
Note Mr Crow that Modbury highschool in Adelaide in 2012 a grade 8 student fired shots.  Melbourne had a teacher and student killed on a university campus in 2002 with 5 injured.



There has been shootings at schools all around the globe and every last one of them is tragic.  School shootings are not an American invention.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
Quote from: "RW"Note Mr Crow that Modbury highschool in Adelaide in 2012 a grade 8 student fired shots.  Melbourne had a teacher and student killed on a university campus in 2002 with 5 injured.



There has been shootings at schools all around the globe and every last one of them is tragic.  School shootings are not an American invention.

Japan and China had school stabbings with multiple deaths.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: cc on January 23, 2016, 10:37:45 PM
Hey kiddies. We can compromise here. You are both right



Attention whore Joe is an idiot who likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"The shooter is seventeen.

I knew he was a kid.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 24, 2016, 12:17:20 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Hey kiddies. We can compromise here. You are both right



Attention whore Joe is an idiot who likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.


Once again cc nails it.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 24, 2016, 12:22:56 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Hey kiddies. We can compromise here. You are both right



Attention whore Joe is an idiot who likes stirring the pot/getting under people's skin.

 ac_drinks
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 24, 2016, 12:26:56 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.


I'm aware of that fact but I'm speaking strictly on this issue and this thread.

Look at Joe's posts. He has a high school aged kid killing people because the economy is sagging. WYH?


I've never said that a sagging economy is the only factor, although I've indicated that it could be one.

As I stated before, even if children are not fully cognizant of what's going in the world, their parents often are, and the abusive ones who see no escape from their own situation often take it out on their kids. It's not one thing, it's a compilation of them which leads to violent households which raise children who later commit violent acts. Violence is a symptom of something else.



Have you ever witnessed domestic violence or lived in a home with it? As I indicated earlier, someone I had a falling out with, frequently abuses his girlfriend. And anytime bad news arrived about his support payments to his ex, his negative bank account balance he'd get drunk and take it out on his girlfriend. I saw him hit her, punch her, spit on her on at least 3 separate occasions. He even threatened to kill here. Did she deserve it? No, of course not. But he'd do it anyway, and many of these domestic violent incidents would occur when his child was present. So, I don't take it back. From what I've seen, there may well be a causal link which goes in the economy and what goes in inside the home.  Of course, there are other factors, such as drug and alcohol abuse.



And I'm not convinced as you may be, that this is strictly an 'Injun problem' as it affects every race and religion. BTW, the example I pointed out was a White guy beating up his girlfriend. He'd call here whore, a b****h and a c**t. It was awful. But I'll never forget it. It was so painful to watch. I'm actually quite relieved that we both have resolved never to see each other again. He even owed me $200, but I just decided it wasn't worth it. And the horrific events which I found quite traumatic just to watch have compelled me to stay away from the guy and forget whatever debt he owed me.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 12:30:08 AM
Quote from: "J0E"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.

I agree with you and ceec. But, Crow is not the only one rubbing their sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.


I'm aware of that fact but I'm speaking strictly on this issue and this thread.

Look at Joe's posts. He has a high school aged kid killing people because the economy is sagging. WYH?


I've never said that a sagging economy is the only factor, although I've indicated that it could be one.

As I stated before, even if children are not fully cognizant of what's going in the world, their parents often are, and the abusive ones who see no escape from their own situation often take it out on their kids. It's not one thing, it's a compilation of them which leads to violent households which raise children who later commit violent acts. Violence is a symptom of something else.



Have you ever witnessed domestic violence or lived in a home with it? As I indicated earlier, someone I had a falling out with, frequently abuses his girlfriend. And anytime bad news arrived about his support payments to his ex, his negative bank account balance he'd get drunk and take it out on his girlfriend. I saw him hit her, punch her, spit on her on at least 3 separate occasions. Did she deserve it? No, of course not. But he'd do it anyway, and many of these domestic violent incidents would occur when his child was present. So, I don't take it back. From what I've seen, there may well be a causal link which goes in the economy and what goes in inside the home.  Of course, there are other factors, such as drug and alcohol abuse.



And I'm not convinced as you may be, that this is strictly an 'Injun problem' as it affects every race and religion. BTW, the example I pointed out was a White guy beating up his girlfriend. He'd call here whore, a b****h and a c**t. It was awful. But I'll never forget it. It was so painful to watch. I'm actually quite relieved that we both have resolved never to see each other again. He even owed me $200, but I just decided it wasn't worth it. And the horrific events which I found quite traumatic just to watch have compelled me to stay away from the guy and forget whatever debt he owed me. It

What Herman said was the total opposite of what you think he may be convinced of.



I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 24, 2016, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.


You want to be spared drama. You don't want these issues "politicised" (and I'll bet a shiny gold coin you don't even know what that means).



You just want the carnage and slaughter to go on, as long as its not your child who's head is splattered with a 12 gauge.



Nobody forces you to read the thread, or the posts. You don't like what I say, get the fuck out of my thread.



Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 01:08:55 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
What Herman said was the total opposite of what you think he may be convinced of.



I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

Joe knows that. He said it to try and get under Herm's skin.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 01:14:38 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
What Herman said was the total opposite of what you think he may be convinced of.



I was the first to mention that the community is aboriginal. But that does not matter. That punk that shot all the elementary school kids in Connecticut was white and not poor. Virginia Tech shooter was Korean and far from poor too. Aboriginal or not, several kids were wasted.

Joe knows that. He said it to try and get under Herm's skin.

It didn't work.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 24, 2016, 02:02:20 AM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Please everyone.Spare us the theories. Spare us the "country" bullshit. Spare us the drama.



All of these events  are tragedies. They are not a shame upon a country. They fit no stereotype.

Pre-investigation theories and use of blame of any type  is attention whoring that insults the victims.



Whatever caused this is "individual". Perps who have done or would like to do this sort of thing run from poor to middle to very wealthy ... from well employed to broke .... from loners to outgoing types ... and have their very own unique motive.



This kind of perp and wannabee perp exist in every society  of every country.


Thank you cc.  :thumbup:



I was wondering when one of you Canadians were going to step up and say like it is. The despicable title of this thread is nothing more than a particular clown's, holier than thou way of rubbing his Aussie born sociopolitical agenda in everyone's face.



I'm glad it was you that stepped up. It was most appropriate.


You want to be spared drama. You don't want these issues "politicised" (and I'll bet a shiny gold coin you don't even know what that means).



You just want the carnage and slaughter to go on, as long as its not your child who's head is splattered with a 12 gauge.



Nobody forces you to read the thread, or the posts. You don't like what I say, get the fuck out of my thread.



Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.


Yeah, like I'm the only one that finds your self serving politicalization of a tragedy abhorrent, infuriating, hypocritical and supremely insulting. (You owe me a "shiny gold coin", you pompous boor) but you can keep it and shove it up your wrnkled arrogant ass.



People like you with your fear mongering and your repulsive attempts at sociopolitical  grand standing on the backs of tradgic incidents like this are disgusting. Hopefully one day you will fall off that soap box and break your fucking pencil neck.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Asian Pride on January 24, 2016, 02:29:24 AM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.

There is, actually.



Maybe not in Australia, but in Canada there is a very real need for guns.  Perhaps not handguns, but those are quite restricted here anyhow, and aren't generally a huge problem, all things considered.



This is a land of hunters, and of vast wilderness.  Long guns are very common, used by many for hunting, and simply for defense in the wilderness.



Very few problems occur here, all things considered, with legally owned firearms.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Asian Pride on January 24, 2016, 02:35:08 AM
It's no different than drinking and driving.  Drunk drivers will always cause the occasional problem.



What should be done?  Should we ban booze?  That's been tried.  Ban cars?



In a relatively free society, people must accept that there will be a slim chance that someone or something will kill you.  The odds are very rare, but it can occur.



It is sad for the families involved, I am sure, but really?  Life goes on.  This is nothing new, and human nature will always find a way to inflict harm onto others, no matter what.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 02:38:54 AM
Quote from: "Asian Pride"It's no different than drinking and driving.  Drunk drivers will always cause the occasional problem.



What should be done?  Should we ban booze?  That's been tried.  Ban cars?



In a relatively free society, people must accept that there will be a slim chance that someone or something will kill you.  The odds are very rare, but it can occur.



It is sad for the families involved, I am sure, but really?  Life goes on.  This is nothing new, and human nature will always find a way to inflict harm onto others, no matter what.

I would like that, but that will not happen.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Asian Pride on January 24, 2016, 02:41:58 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I would like that, but that will not happen.

In theory, it does sound like a good idea.



It's been tried, and was a well documented failure in all way, shapes and forms.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 02:43:11 AM
Quote from: "Asian Pride"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I would like that, but that will not happen.

In theory, it does sound like a good idea.



It's been tried, and was a well documented failure in all way, shapes and forms.

It will not happen, I know.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Asian Pride on January 24, 2016, 02:50:59 AM
Sadly, there are drunks like me, and all that will happen is I'll make some Mafioso boss rich by buying his product instead.



Many of the big breweries here actually made their start bootlegging.  Sleeman, Seagrams, etc...
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 03:05:10 AM
Quote from: "Asian Pride"Sadly, there are drunks like me, and all that will happen is I'll make some Mafioso boss rich by buying his product instead.



Many of the big breweries here actually made their start bootlegging.  Sleeman, Seagrams, etc...

I don't like alcohol, but I know banning will create more problems than it will solve.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 24, 2016, 03:29:55 AM
The median income of La Loche Saskatchewan is about $12,000. This is less than half of the median income of Saskatchewan.



http://globalnews.ca/news/2472416/saskatchewan-school-shooting-what-we-know-about-la-loche/



http://www.city-data.com/canada/La-Loche-Village.html



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So in fact, a depressed economy may have indirectly influenced the behavior of the shooter.

Growing up poor, in a bad part of the country with lots of drugs and alcohol around.

The USA has its ghettos.

Sadly, Canada has its Native Reservations.



Too often, the finger is pointed at the USA.

But we have our social eyesores as well.

Native people in Canada get treated like Blacks and Latinos in the States.

Unfortunately, there is racism here as well, but it's just targets a different group.



So if you Americans want to pick on us for that, that's OK.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
^ Its median income is $12,000 LESS than Saskatchewan's median.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2472416/saskatchewan-school-shooting-what-we-know-about-la-loche/



The median income for a household in Newtown Connecticut was $90,193, and the median income for a family was $99,192 (these figures had risen to $101,937 and $119,175 respectively as of a 2007 estimate).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newtown,_Connecticut
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 24, 2016, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: "Asian Pride"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.

There is, actually.



Maybe not in Australia, but in Canada there is a very real need for guns.  Perhaps not handguns, but those are quite restricted here anyhow, and aren't generally a huge problem, all things considered.



This is a land of hunters, and of vast wilderness.  Long guns are very common, used by many for hunting, and simply for defense in the wilderness.



Very few problems occur here, all things considered, with legally owned firearms.


No, there is not.



You speak as if Canada is unique. Its not.



Australia is nearly as big in land mass, with even fewer people. Hunting is now all but forbidden, and high powered rifles are banned. Like Canadians, Australians liked to shoot critters, but after a particularly heinous mass shooting, we decided that surrendering this pastime was a better choice than facilitating the ownership of lethal weapons. Put another way, we changed our culture. I take your point that Canada, compared to the psycho ward on your southern boundary, is peaceful and safe, but how many school shootings would it take to make you change your minds about the number of guns in your communities?



The American meatbag gets her nose out of joint because she thinks using these slaughters as an rationale to eliminate gun ownership is improper.



That is like saying that using car accidents to justify speed limit imposition is unfair. But its what to expect from a rabid pigeon killer who believes that God has told America it must have guns. Discussing gun control with an American is like discussing the war on drugs with El Chapo.



Humanity has painted itself into a very uncomfortable corner that has increased pressure on its citizens, created conflict and confrontation within national borders, and created a society where crime brings rich rewards. Throwing lethal weapons in that mix is like throwing iron bars into a bar brawl.



We do not have the communal capacity to manage gun ownership in this modern mayhem.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Asian Pride"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.

There is, actually.



Maybe not in Australia, but in Canada there is a very real need for guns.  Perhaps not handguns, but those are quite restricted here anyhow, and aren't generally a huge problem, all things considered.



This is a land of hunters, and of vast wilderness.  Long guns are very common, used by many for hunting, and simply for defense in the wilderness.



Very few problems occur here, all things considered, with legally owned firearms.


No, there is not.



You speak as if Canada is unique. Its not.



Australia is nearly as big in land mass, with even fewer people. Hunting is now all but forbidden, and high powered rifles are banned. Like Canadians, Australians liked to shoot critters, but after a particularly heinous mass shooting, we decided that surrendering this pastime was a better choice than facilitating the ownership of lethal weapons. Put another way, we changed our culture. I take your point that Canada, compared to the psycho ward on your southern boundary, is peaceful and safe, but how many school shootings would it take to make you change your minds about the number of guns in your communities?



The American meatbag gets her nose out of joint because she thinks using these slaughters as an rationale to eliminate gun ownership is improper.



That is like saying that using car accidents to justify speed limit imposition is unfair. But its what to expect from a rabid pigeon killer who believes that God has told America it must have guns. Discussing gun control with an American is like discussing the war on drugs with El Chapo.



Humanity has painted itself into a very uncomfortable corner that has increased pressure on its citizens, created conflict and confrontation within national borders, and created a society where crime brings rich rewards. Throwing lethal weapons in that mix is like throwing iron bars into a bar brawl.



We do not have the communal capacity to manage gun ownership in this modern mayhem.

It is?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Wulf on January 25, 2016, 10:09:25 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Asian Pride"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.

There is, actually.



Maybe not in Australia, but in Canada there is a very real need for guns.  Perhaps not handguns, but those are quite restricted here anyhow, and aren't generally a huge problem, all things considered.



This is a land of hunters, and of vast wilderness.  Long guns are very common, used by many for hunting, and simply for defense in the wilderness.



Very few problems occur here, all things considered, with legally owned firearms.


No, there is not.



You speak as if Canada is unique. Its not.



Australia is nearly as big in land mass, with even fewer people. Hunting is now all but forbidden, and high powered rifles are banned. Like Canadians, Australians liked to shoot critters, but after a particularly heinous mass shooting, we decided that surrendering this pastime was a better choice than facilitating the ownership of lethal weapons. Put another way, we changed our culture. I take your point that Canada, compared to the psycho ward on your southern boundary, is peaceful and safe, but how many school shootings would it take to make you change your minds about the number of guns in your communities?



The American meatbag gets her nose out of joint because she thinks using these slaughters as an rationale to eliminate gun ownership is improper.



That is like saying that using car accidents to justify speed limit imposition is unfair. But its what to expect from a rabid pigeon killer who believes that God has told America it must have guns. Discussing gun control with an American is like discussing the war on drugs with El Chapo.



Humanity has painted itself into a very uncomfortable corner that has increased pressure on its citizens, created conflict and confrontation within national borders, and created a society where crime brings rich rewards. Throwing lethal weapons in that mix is like throwing iron bars into a bar brawl.



We do not have the communal capacity to manage gun ownership in this modern mayhem.

It is?


No it's not. Many times the chief inspector likes to talk out of his ass when he is off on one of his hysterical tangents. Like many of his ilk, he has a penchant for stretching the truth and slanting his statements to suit his agenda. His shrill and hysterical wailing on this subject is quite comical when exposed to the truth.



"The University of Queensland estimates that Australia has around 300 000 active hunters investing a conservative $556,650,000 annually into the Australian economy.



"In Australia, despite there being perhaps 300,000 recreational hunters, there has never been a national survey to determine basic information such as where, what, how, and how often do hunters hunt, and how much time and money they spend doing it. In September 2011 we launched an on-line survey which asked hunters 53 questions about themselves and their hunting practices."

 

http://www.wsq.org.au/QPAS%202012/Session%205/Baxter,%20Greg.pdf



So how the inspector came up with his claim that hunting "is all but forbidden" looks to be a mystery.  



All one has to do is Google "Australian Hunting" and you will come up with an assload of links to safari outfits that provide guided or what we would call "canned hunts". Many parts of Australia have problems with invasive species such as feral hogs, goats, water buffalo, foxes and rabbits.....all are hunted regularly. If it wasn't such an ass killing plane ride, I would consider doing a little hunting there. I quite enjoy running a few beagles and taking some rabbits for the stew pot.



http://www.aushunt.com.au/basecamp/

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/hunting/what-can-i-hunt



Plus, regardless of what some self-righteous chaps with abortionized British accents will claim, the furry little native creatures such as kangaroos are hunted and killed with wild abandon by the local yokels every year. Also his claim that high powered rifles are forbidden is not exactly true either. Most roo hunters and poachers use common rifle calibers such as .223Rem, .243Win, .270Win and .308Win. Either the the chief inspector has no idea what he is talking about OR he has no idea what a high powered rifle actually is. I'm thinking it is a little bit of both.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
^ I knew the no hunting in Aus had to be bullshit. It likely has more regs. than Canada or the Nordic countries, but there are too many wild things that hop for them not to drop down under.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 25, 2016, 11:24:55 AM
I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.

Hunting is widespread here and trophy hunting is not uncommon. My ex was hunting nuts.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: kiebers on January 25, 2016, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.

Hunting is widespread here and trophy hunting is not uncommon. My ex was hunting nuts.

Ok I'll do it.



Whose nuts was he hunting?



You set it up so nicely I had to ask.... :laugh3:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Wulf on January 25, 2016, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.


I can only judge by what he says and what he says is something other than reality. Whether you admire him or not for his ideals, his information is obviously not correct. I didn't pull the information from Queensland UNIV. or the other links from my ass. They are official and valid citations in direct conflict with his claims.



If he is going to make statements he needs to be able to back them up with something other than his political bias and hysterical opinion. I understand that passions can run high when dealing with subjects like this but it's no excuse for blatantly making unsubstantiated remarks. Haven't we had enough of that with the "white people are racist" crap from that other guy?
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 25, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.

Hunting is widespread here and trophy hunting is not uncommon. My ex was hunting nuts.

Ok I'll do it.



Whose nuts was he hunting?



You set it up so nicely I had to ask.... :laugh3:


Obviously he was a squirrel.



Now don't you feel foolish? ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: kiebers on January 25, 2016, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.

Hunting is widespread here and trophy hunting is not uncommon. My ex was hunting nuts.

Ok I'll do it.



Whose nuts was he hunting?



You set it up so nicely I had to ask.... :laugh3:


Obviously he was a squirrel.



Now don't you feel foolish? ac_biggrin




:laugh3:  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 25, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
HAHAHA!
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Hunting is still a popular past time in Saskatchewan. The hunting camps up North are full every season with those seeking a moose. Every year hunters ask if they can hunt muleys on my land. Cabelas busiest season is hunting season. Taxidermists are always busy during and after hunting season.



Here are some stats from our provincial government.

http://www.environment.gov.sk.ca/BigGameDraw/
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: keeper on January 25, 2016, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Asian Pride"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"Cos I sure as shit ain't gonna stop saying it; there is NO place for guns in modern society.

There is, actually.



Maybe not in Australia, but in Canada there is a very real need for guns.  Perhaps not handguns, but those are quite restricted here anyhow, and aren't generally a huge problem, all things considered.



This is a land of hunters, and of vast wilderness.  Long guns are very common, used by many for hunting, and simply for defense in the wilderness.



Very few problems occur here, all things considered, with legally owned firearms.


No, there is not.



You speak as if Canada is unique. Its not.



Australia is nearly as big in land mass, with even fewer people. Hunting is now all but forbidden, and high powered rifles are banned. Like Canadians, Australians liked to shoot critters, but after a particularly heinous mass shooting, we decided that surrendering this pastime was a better choice than facilitating the ownership of lethal weapons. Put another way, we changed our culture. I take your point that Canada, compared to the psycho ward on your southern boundary, is peaceful and safe, but how many school shootings would it take to make you change your minds about the number of guns in your communities?



The American meatbag gets her nose out of joint because she thinks using these slaughters as an rationale to eliminate gun ownership is improper.



That is like saying that using car accidents to justify speed limit imposition is unfair. But its what to expect from a rabid pigeon killer who believes that God has told America it must have guns. Discussing gun control with an American is like discussing the war on drugs with El Chapo.



Humanity has painted itself into a very uncomfortable corner that has increased pressure on its citizens, created conflict and confrontation within national borders, and created a society where crime brings rich rewards. Throwing lethal weapons in that mix is like throwing iron bars into a bar brawl.



We do not have the communal capacity to manage gun ownership in this modern mayhem.


What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "RW"I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to what Mr. C knows Wulf.  I think it's admirable to want a violentless, gun-free society.  The trouble is that it's not realistic.



Hunting isn't all but outlawed here.  Hunting for nothing but sport and trophy is strongly frowned upon.

Hunting is widespread here and trophy hunting is not uncommon. My ex was hunting nuts.

Ok I'll do it.



Whose nuts was he hunting?



You set it up so nicely I had to ask.... :laugh3:

OK, ya got me stud. I had a FOB moment.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2016, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?



You're living in their yard. They seemed to do pretty well until man came along. This "kill them to preserve them" bs has been floated for years by gun freaks who get boners from slaughtering animals, and by their logic, animals that aren't hunted should be darn near extinct by now.



Its not too late to stop hunting, and implement better conservation programs that are not reliant on humans grabbing high powered rifles and heading into the wilderness to shoot the place up.



The overarching issue is that HUMAN BEINGS do not co-exist well with GUNS, not that animals need culling.



Would you send a three year old out with a weed whacker, arguing that if we don't trim the grass, the yard will be overrun? Its a barbaric practice using weapons we aren't very good at managing.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 25, 2016, 11:00:30 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?
.


Godwin's Law????? ac_umm



I think we need a quick ruling on this.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 25, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
I know, I know...I applied logic to an argument, and as an American, you're confused.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2016, 11:21:26 PM
Message to Ralph Goodale and the Liberals: this shooting is not an aboriginal problem. It's more likely to happen in urban areas and sometimes by affluent kids. You can't fix it by buying off the AFN and Indian chiefs.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: RW on January 26, 2016, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?
.


Godwin's Law????? ac_umm



I think we need a quick ruling on this.

Godwin all the way.



Forum foul.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 26, 2016, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?
.


Godwin's Law????? ac_umm



I think we need a quick ruling on this.

Godwin all the way.



Forum foul.


Thread is toast. Our resident firearms hater just shot himself in the dick.



How ironic but infinity fitting.  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: J0E on January 26, 2016, 12:29:12 AM
La Loche, a tiny town of just over 2,000 residents, made the national news a number of years ago:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/gangs-fear-stalk-saskatchewan-village-1.940654



It seemed to foretell of the ominous events which were to come 6 years later. I wonder why more people couldn't see it comin':


QuoteJun 22, 2010 9:11 PM CT



A shooting death across the street from the RCMP detachment in La Loche, Sask., has thrown a harsh light on gang violence in the northern village.



Matthew St. Pierre, 29, died June 6 after being shot in broad daylight, a crime police say may have been gang-related. Shortly after the shooting, Curtis Ecklund, 26, and Richie Herman, 18, were charged with second-degree murder and weapons offences.



In interviews with CBC News last year, the RCMP said there could be 100 gang members around the village, which according to the 2006 census, had a population of 2,348.



One of the most influential of them is said to be a Dene gang known as the Scorpion Brothers, a Dene group that formed several years ago in the jails and prisons of Prince Albert.



St. Pierre himself had gang ties and had spent time behind bars for various offences.



His mother Annette Montgrand admits her son was no saint, but says he didn't deserve to be shot twice in the face with a sawed-off shotgun.



He had been out of jail for only four months, but was turning his life around and was training for a career, she said.



Montgrand said she rushed to the scene when she heard her son had been shot.



"My whole body went cold. I knew right away something was wrong," she said. "They said, 'Your son has been shot twice on Main Street.'"



She said she spoke to the police and others about what happened and learned the gun had been hidden in a baby's stroller.



"That baby was used to conceal the weapon that was intended for my son," she said.



In light of those circumstances, Montgrand said, she's disappointed police have not charged anyone with first-degree murder.



"They try to tell us there's no proof it was planned. So they been charged with second-degree murder. We fully do not agree. My children and I ... are not happy with that."



It's not the family's first brush with gun violence.



Last summer, a 13-year-old niece of St. Pierre was hit in a drive-by shooting.



She survived, but according to the girl's father, Robert St. Pierre, a culture of fear makes it difficult to bring the culprits to justice.  



"It was very, very busy. A lot of witnesses. No one came forward," Robert St. Pierre said.



No one came forward, he said, because people in La Loche are afraid of gang retaliation. That's something that has to change, he said.



Meanwhile, the two men charged in the death of Matthew St. Pierre are scheduled to be back in court on Thursday.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Bricktop on January 26, 2016, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?
.


Godwin's Law????? ac_umm



I think we need a quick ruling on this.

Godwin all the way.



Forum foul.


Thread is toast. Our resident firearms hater just shot himself in the dick.



How ironic but infinity fitting.  ac_lmfao


"Although falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes") have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[10]"



My dick is just fine, blimp. And no, you're STILL not getting a pic.
Title: Re: Five dead - Canada's day of shame...
Post by: Renee on January 26, 2016, 06:54:15 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Keeper"
What don't you understand about hunting???



I will try explain this again.  If you do not hunt (and I'm talking in Canada ) the "game" animals OVER POPULATE,  food becomes scarce and they die or the herd becomes deseased. Man has fucjed this up from the start and now it's to late to just say -YOU CAN'T HUNT!!!!!get rid of your high powered rifles.

I have 2 degrees in wild life foresty conservation,  I know what I'm talking about.


Are you seriously telling me that the motive of hunters is to PROTECT the species?



Seriously?



Is that why Hitler gassed the Jews?
.


Godwin's Law????? ac_umm



I think we need a quick ruling on this.

Godwin all the way.



Forum foul.


Thread is toast. Our resident firearms hater just shot himself in the dick.



How ironic but infinity fitting.  ac_lmfao


"Although falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes") have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[10]"



My dick is just fine, blimp. And no, you're STILL not getting a pic.


Hey shithead, do you know how to cite your posts properly or are YOU going to take credit for what you are trying to use as an argument? If so, you need to remove the citation references. :laugh3:  



Without proper citation the veracity of your post holds very little credibility. You are one lame mother fucker, do you know that?



In any event there was no abuse of Godwin's Law here. Your penchant for hysterics and reaching over the top during debates is well known and you did not disappoint in this case.



BTW, in order for your dick to be "fine", you first need to have one.