Australia: an American's view
Interesting set of observations from a visitor from the other side of the Pacific.'Value what you have and don't give it away.' There's a lot to admire about Australia, especially if you're a visiting American, says David Mason. More often than you might expect, Australian friends patiently listening to me enthuse about their country have said, ''We need outsiders like you to remind us what we have.'' So here it is - a small presumptuous list of what one foreigner admires in Oz.
1... Health care. I know the controversies, but basic national health care is a gift. In America, medical expenses are a leading cause of bankruptcy. The drug companies dominate politics and advertising.
Obama is being crucified for taking halting baby steps towards sanity. You can't turn on the telly without hours of drug advertisements - something I have never yet seen here. And your emphasis on prevention - making cigarettes less accessible, for one - is a model.
2... Food. Yes, we have great food in America too, especially in the big cities.
But your bread is less sweet, your lamb is cheaper, and your supermarket vegetables and fruits are fresher than ours.
Too often in my country an apple is a ball of pulp as big as your face.
The dainty Pink Lady apples of Oz are the juiciest I've had. And don't get me started on coffee.
In American small towns it tastes like water flavoured with burnt dirt, but the smallest shop in the smallest town in Oz can make a first-rate latte.
I love your ubiquitous bakeries, your hot-cross buns. Shall I go on?
3... Language. How do you do it?
The rhyming slang and Aboriginal place names like magic spells.
Words that seem vaguely English yet also resemble an argot from another planet.
I love the way institutional names get turned into diminutives - Vinnie's and Salvos - and absolutely nothing's sacred.
Everything's an opportunity for word games and everyone's a nickname.
Lingo makes the world go round.
It's the spontaneous wit of the people that tickles me most.
Late one night at a barbie my new mate Suds remarked, ''Nothing's the same since 24-7.'' Amen.
4... Free-to-air TV. In Oz, you buy a TV, plug it in and watch some of the best programming I've ever seen - uncensored.
In America, you can't get diddly-squat without paying a cable or satellite company heavy fees.
In Oz a few channels make it hard to choose.
In America, you've got 400 channels and nothing to watch.
5... Small shops. Outside the big cities in America corporations have nearly erased them.
Identical malls with identical restaurants serving inferior food.
Except for geography, it's hard to tell one American town from another.
The ''take-away'' culture here is wonderful.
Human encounters are real - stirring happens, stories get told.
The curries are to die for. And you don't have to tip!
6... Free camping. We used to have this too, and I guess it's still free when you backpack miles away from the roads.
But I love the fact that in Oz everyone owns the shore and in many places you can pull up a camper van and stare at the sea for weeks.
I love the ''primitive'' and independent campgrounds, the life out of doors.
The few idiots who leave their stubbies and rubbish behind in these pristine places ought to be transported in chains.
7... Religion. In America, it's everywhere - especially where it's not supposed to be, like politics.
I imagine you have your Pharisees too, making a big public show of devotion, but I have yet to meet one here.
8... Roads. Peak hour aside, I've found travel on your roads pure heaven.
My country's ''freeways'' are crowded, crumbling, insanely knotted with looping overpasses - it's like racing homicidal maniacs on fraying spaghetti.
I've taken the Hume without stress, and I love the Princes Highway when it's two lanes.
Ninety minutes south of Bateman's Bay I was sorry to see one billboard for a McDonald's.
It's blocking a lovely paddock view. Someone should remove it.
9... Real multiculturalism. I know there are tensions, just like anywhere else, but I love the distinctiveness of your communities and the way you publicly acknowledge the Aboriginal past.
Recently, too, I spent quality time with Melbourne Greeks, and was gratified both by their devotion to their own great language and culture and their openness to an Afghan lunch.
10. Fewer guns. You had Port Arthur in 1996 and got real in response. America replicates such massacres several times a year and nothing changes.
Why?
Our religion of individual rights makes the good of the community an impossible dream.
Instead of mateship we have ''It's mine and nobody else's''.
We talk a great game about freedom, but too often live in fear.
There's more to say - your kaleidoscopic birds, your perfumed bush in springtime, your vast beaches.
These are just a few blessings that make Australia a rarity.
Of course, it's not paradise - nowhere is - but I love it here.
No need to wave flags like Americans and add to the world's windiness.
Just value what you have and don't give it away.
David Mason is a US writer and professor, and poet laureate of Colorado.
David Mason is entitled to his opinion even if it is mostly horseshit. The province I live in would be SOOOOOOOOO much better off as a US state. If we switched sides, Saskatchewan would almost surely follow us. The rest of Canada would make New Zealand look like a land of opportunity if that happened.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
David Mason is entitled to his opinion even if it is mostly horseshit. The province I live in would be SOOOOOOOOO much better off as a US state. If we switched sides, Saskatchewan would almost surely follow us. The rest of Canada would make New Zealand look like a land of opportunity if that happened.
ac_dunno
Quote from: "Shen Li"
David Mason is entitled to his opinion even if it is mostly horseshit. The province I live in would be SOOOOOOOOO much better off as a US state. If we switched sides, Saskatchewan would almost surely follow us. The rest of Canada would make New Zealand look like a land of opportunity if that happened.
Your "province" is overrun by opportunistic, bourgeoises mainlanders wanting to establish another worker's paradise governed by The Little Red Book.
Saskatchewan? That's Chinese too, isn't it?
You reds are trying to take over the world.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
David Mason is entitled to his opinion even if it is mostly horseshit. The province I live in would be SOOOOOOOOO much better off as a US state. If we switched sides, Saskatchewan would almost surely follow us. The rest of Canada would make New Zealand look like a land of opportunity if that happened.
Your "province" is overrun by opportunistic, bourgeoises mainlanders wanting to establish another worker's paradise governed by The Little Red Book.
Saskatchewan? That's Chinese too, isn't it?
You reds are trying to take over the world.
Funny guy, but I am being serious. The prospects of Canada remaining part of Canada in the long term are not good. It makes no economic sense. I will be posting about it tomorrow.......STAT TUNED!!
So, you're going to claim it as part of the mainland???
Cos it sure as shit won't EVER join with the US.
I don't live in Canada
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
So, you're going to claim it as part of the mainland???
Cos it sure as shit won't EVER join with the US.
There was something that got a lot attention last year in the news that said Alberta would be better off as a American state.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-leaving-canada-makes-sense-for-alberta-and-u-s-would-likely-welcome-a-new-state
Q Amid this interesting geopolitical shift, you devote a chapter to Alberta's possible secession.
A Canada's demographic situation is similar to the rest of the developed world — a large population moving toward retirement and hardly any young people in the replacement generation coming up.
However, Alberta does not fit that mould. It is the youngest province, and is becoming younger, better paid and more highly skilled as the rest of Canada becomes older and less skilled, and a ward of the state financially.
The other piece is, of course, energy. British Columbia has been hostile to Alberta's efforts to diversity oil exports and the Atlantic is more than 2,000 miles away.
But really, it comes down to demographics. Right now, every man, woman and child in Alberta pay $6,000 more into the national budget than they get back. Alberta is the only province that is a net contributor to that budget — by 2020, the number will exceed $20,000 per person, $40,000 per taxpayer. That will be the greatest wealth transfer in per capita terms in the Western world. The only other place we see things like that is in Saudi Arabia, where the oil-producing regions subsidize the rest of the country.
Q Secession has been a dirty political word in Alberta for several years, with politicians rumoured to be secret secessionists. That talk died down when the Harper Conservatives were elected — when a group of people who came out of the Alberta mould assumed power.
A On Stephen Harper's watch, Alberta's tax bill has basically tripled. This is going on while you have a federal government that is pro-Alberta.
From my point of view, it doesn't matter if it's this government, the next government, or the one after. The demographic trends are locked in. If you get a government in Ottawa that isn't Conservative, isn't born, bred, raised and trained in Alberta, what do you think they're going to be doing to the tax policies?
Q So this is a conversation about secession to the U.S.?
A Alberta as an independent country doesn't solve a huge number of problems. If it left Canada, its currency goes through the roof because all it has is oil exports, and that would drive agriculture out of business. It would be a one-horse economy in a very short time.
Seceding to the U.S. becomes the only political and economic option. If you do that, the inflation issue goes away, the tax problem goes away, the security problem goes away. Alberta gets everything it says it wants out of Canada within the first year of joining the U.S.
Q Do you think the Americans would have us?
A Americans have a reputation for being ignorant and short-sighted, but I would be stunned if there was a single person in Congress who would think this a bad idea. If you bring Alberta into the country, the U.S. becomes technically energy independent overnight. I would expect ratification of the expansion to sail through Congress in a matter of hours.
Q In Alberta, the numbers and logic might make sense, but politically and culturally it still seems to be a huge stretch to think Albertans would seriously consider this.
A I'm a forecaster. My job is to look at the trends of how the world works. Comfort makes people a little more passive and Canada is a comfortable place. Because secession is legal, Albertans are going to have to think about this — that doesn't mean they will seriously consider it. But a $40,000 per taxpayer bill every year, that's a bit of a motivator.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
So, you're going to claim it as part of the mainland???
Cos it sure as shit won't EVER join with the US.
There was something that got a lot attention last year in the news that said Alberta would be better off as a American state.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-leaving-canada-makes-sense-for-alberta-and-u-s-would-likely-welcome-a-new-state
Q Amid this interesting geopolitical shift, you devote a chapter to Alberta's possible secession.
A Canada's demographic situation is similar to the rest of the developed world — a large population moving toward retirement and hardly any young people in the replacement generation coming up.
However, Alberta does not fit that mould. It is the youngest province, and is becoming younger, better paid and more highly skilled as the rest of Canada becomes older and less skilled, and a ward of the state financially.
The other piece is, of course, energy. British Columbia has been hostile to Alberta's efforts to diversity oil exports and the Atlantic is more than 2,000 miles away.
But really, it comes down to demographics. Right now, every man, woman and child in Alberta pay $6,000 more into the national budget than they get back. Alberta is the only province that is a net contributor to that budget — by 2020, the number will exceed $20,000 per person, $40,000 per taxpayer. That will be the greatest wealth transfer in per capita terms in the Western world. The only other place we see things like that is in Saudi Arabia, where the oil-producing regions subsidize the rest of the country.
Q Secession has been a dirty political word in Alberta for several years, with politicians rumoured to be secret secessionists. That talk died down when the Harper Conservatives were elected — when a group of people who came out of the Alberta mould assumed power.
A On Stephen Harper's watch, Alberta's tax bill has basically tripled. This is going on while you have a federal government that is pro-Alberta.
From my point of view, it doesn't matter if it's this government, the next government, or the one after. The demographic trends are locked in. If you get a government in Ottawa that isn't Conservative, isn't born, bred, raised and trained in Alberta, what do you think they're going to be doing to the tax policies?
Q So this is a conversation about secession to the U.S.?
A Alberta as an independent country doesn't solve a huge number of problems. If it left Canada, its currency goes through the roof because all it has is oil exports, and that would drive agriculture out of business. It would be a one-horse economy in a very short time.
Seceding to the U.S. becomes the only political and economic option. If you do that, the inflation issue goes away, the tax problem goes away, the security problem goes away. Alberta gets everything it says it wants out of Canada within the first year of joining the U.S.
Q Do you think the Americans would have us?
A Americans have a reputation for being ignorant and short-sighted, but I would be stunned if there was a single person in Congress who would think this a bad idea. If you bring Alberta into the country, the U.S. becomes technically energy independent overnight. I would expect ratification of the expansion to sail through Congress in a matter of hours.
Q In Alberta, the numbers and logic might make sense, but politically and culturally it still seems to be a huge stretch to think Albertans would seriously consider this.
A I'm a forecaster. My job is to look at the trends of how the world works. Comfort makes people a little more passive and Canada is a comfortable place. Because secession is legal, Albertans are going to have to think about this — that doesn't mean they will seriously consider it. But a $40,000 per taxpayer bill every year, that's a bit of a motivator.
I have voted Liberal before, but I did not support Justin's leadership and I will never vote for them as long as he is the leader. Martha Hall Findlay was the candidate I wanted. She would be much so much better for national unity than Justin.
I'd love to visit Australia some day.
I'm a fan.
Quote from: "Blurt"
I'd love to visit Australia some day.
I'm a fan.
I would too Blurt....we can go together.
ac_smile
Holy Angelina Jolie ! White people are so short in Australia because they shouldn't be in Asia. White Australians had the whites only policy because they only want blue eyes and blonde hair. I hate Australians.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Australia: an American's view
Interesting set of observations from a visitor from the other side of the Pacific.'Value what you have and don't give it away.' There's a lot to admire about Australia, especially if you're a visiting American, says David Mason. More often than you might expect, Australian friends patiently listening to me enthuse about their country have said, ''We need outsiders like you to remind us what we have.'' So here it is - a small presumptuous list of what one foreigner admires in Oz.
1... Health care. I know the controversies, but basic national health care is a gift. In America, medical expenses are a leading cause of bankruptcy. The drug companies dominate politics and advertising.
Obama is being crucified for taking halting baby steps towards sanity. You can't turn on the telly without hours of drug advertisements - something I have never yet seen here. And your emphasis on prevention - making cigarettes less accessible, for one - is a model.
2... Food. Yes, we have great food in America too, especially in the big cities.
But your bread is less sweet, your lamb is cheaper, and your supermarket vegetables and fruits are fresher than ours.
Too often in my country an apple is a ball of pulp as big as your face.
The dainty Pink Lady apples of Oz are the juiciest I've had. And don't get me started on coffee.
In American small towns it tastes like water flavoured with burnt dirt, but the smallest shop in the smallest town in Oz can make a first-rate latte.
I love your ubiquitous bakeries, your hot-cross buns. Shall I go on?
3... Language. How do you do it?
The rhyming slang and Aboriginal place names like magic spells.
Words that seem vaguely English yet also resemble an argot from another planet.
I love the way institutional names get turned into diminutives - Vinnie's and Salvos - and absolutely nothing's sacred.
Everything's an opportunity for word games and everyone's a nickname.
Lingo makes the world go round.
It's the spontaneous wit of the people that tickles me most.
Late one night at a barbie my new mate Suds remarked, ''Nothing's the same since 24-7.'' Amen.
4... Free-to-air TV. In Oz, you buy a TV, plug it in and watch some of the best programming I've ever seen - uncensored.
In America, you can't get diddly-squat without paying a cable or satellite company heavy fees.
In Oz a few channels make it hard to choose.
In America, you've got 400 channels and nothing to watch.
5... Small shops. Outside the big cities in America corporations have nearly erased them.
Identical malls with identical restaurants serving inferior food.
Except for geography, it's hard to tell one American town from another.
The ''take-away'' culture here is wonderful.
Human encounters are real - stirring happens, stories get told.
The curries are to die for. And you don't have to tip!
6... Free camping. We used to have this too, and I guess it's still free when you backpack miles away from the roads.
But I love the fact that in Oz everyone owns the shore and in many places you can pull up a camper van and stare at the sea for weeks.
I love the ''primitive'' and independent campgrounds, the life out of doors.
The few idiots who leave their stubbies and rubbish behind in these pristine places ought to be transported in chains.
7... Religion. In America, it's everywhere - especially where it's not supposed to be, like politics.
I imagine you have your Pharisees too, making a big public show of devotion, but I have yet to meet one here.
8... Roads. Peak hour aside, I've found travel on your roads pure heaven.
My country's ''freeways'' are crowded, crumbling, insanely knotted with looping overpasses - it's like racing homicidal maniacs on fraying spaghetti.
I've taken the Hume without stress, and I love the Princes Highway when it's two lanes.
Ninety minutes south of Bateman's Bay I was sorry to see one billboard for a McDonald's.
It's blocking a lovely paddock view. Someone should remove it.
9... Real multiculturalism. I know there are tensions, just like anywhere else, but I love the distinctiveness of your communities and the way you publicly acknowledge the Aboriginal past.
Recently, too, I spent quality time with Melbourne Greeks, and was gratified both by their devotion to their own great language and culture and their openness to an Afghan lunch.
10. Fewer guns. You had Port Arthur in 1996 and got real in response. America replicates such massacres several times a year and nothing changes.
Why?
Our religion of individual rights makes the good of the community an impossible dream.
Instead of mateship we have ''It's mine and nobody else's''.
We talk a great game about freedom, but too often live in fear.
There's more to say - your kaleidoscopic birds, your perfumed bush in springtime, your vast beaches.
These are just a few blessings that make Australia a rarity.
Of course, it's not paradise - nowhere is - but I love it here.
No need to wave flags like Americans and add to the world's windiness.
Just value what you have and don't give it away.
David Mason is a US writer and professor, and poet laureate of Colorado.
#5 is what I was talking to you about the other day. Make sure you don't lose that to corporate America because it's a slippery slope.
Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Holy Angelina Jolie ! White people are so short in Australia because they shouldn't be in Asia. White Australians had the whites only policy because they only want blue eyes and blonde hair. I hate Australians.
See, Rambi, this hatred of an entire population based on the policies of its government is of limited use.
Why not deal with individuals instead? Imagine if I were to hate all Rambos based solely on your output! I'd deprive myself of some possibly entertaining and enlightening viewpoints. As it is, I have only the one Rambo to go by. You. So I limit my floccinaucinihilipilification of Rambos to you.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blurt"
I'd love to visit Australia some day.
I'm a fan.
I would too Blurt....we can go together.
ac_smile
We can?
And here I thought you were married! ac_biggrin
Seriously, a trip to Australia would be a blast. There are people there I'd love to meet, too.
I want to go there and pet adorable animals.
(I swear I just went blonde as I typed that hahaha)
If you're coming, learn the lango...
And the slang....
To be fair to the United States, you're not gonna have the quality of life in a densely populated landspace barely larger than a sparsely populated one like Australia. Australia is basically like America was in 1850 when it had 30-40 million. I'm sure it was beautiful back then:

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But too much immigration, too many people have made it overpopulated at 300 million.
America reached its peak when it was around 200 million people.
Anyways, if you tried to squeeze as many people living in America into Australia right now, its quality of living would go down too.
Less blabbing, more drawing Joe.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
If you're coming, learn the lango...
They missed jumpa and sparky hehehe
Thanks Mr C! Now I can speak Australian!
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
And the slang....
She's only knee high to a grasshopper and translating like a pro!
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
If you're coming, learn the lango...
They missed jumpa and sparky hehehe
Thanks Mr C! Now I can speak Australian!
Jumpa??
:confused1:
It's what YOU call a sweater.
Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Holy Angelina Jolie ! White people are so short in Australia because they shouldn't be in Asia. White Australians had the whites only policy because they only want blue eyes and blonde hair. I hate Australians.
You haven't been to Australia have you?
Quote from: "RW"
It's what YOU call a sweater.
Oh, you mean a jumper...why didn't you say.
So funny story about that...
Mr C here says "jumpa" instead of "jumper" when talking about wearing a sweater (because that's what Aussies do) so I started saying "jumpa" all the time to tease him. So one day we were talking about being cold in Canada and I said we wear parkas. Thinking I was teasing him, Mr. C replies with, "What's a parker?"
BUAHAHAHA!
PI!!!!
TFB!!! It's funny!
Moral of the story he talks funny.
Who asked YOU, shorty?
Grow some legs.
Hey we all talk funny to someone from away.
ac_umm
Quote from: "Blurt"
Hey we all talk funny to someone from away.
When I talk funny it's on purpose. Hahaha
This thread is racist.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Who asked YOU, shorty?
Grow some legs.
Really! !
Short jokes!?!?
Yes.
I have longer ones, but they would take too much time to type.
ac_lmfao
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
This thread is racist.
You started it ya plonker.
Yes, but you and your cohorts perverted it. A skill you have considerable expertise in.
I'm a ... what's the Aussie word for "a woman of many talents?"
Sheila.
:P
Quote from: "Blurt"
Hey we all talk funny to someone from away.Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_umm
Meaning, people who aren't from our region (even within the same country) consider us as having an accent.
Quote from: "Blurt"
Quote from: "Blurt"
Hey we all talk funny to someone from away.Quote from: "Fashionista"
ac_umm
Meaning, people who aren't from our region (even within the same country) consider us as having an accent.
I see Blurt.
On a related note, I find these two young 'uns cute as all hell. The girl has a natural beauty.
Quote from: "Blurt"
On a related note, I find these two young 'uns cute as all hell. The girl has a natural beauty.
How are you today Blurt?
Which just goes to show that Australians speak English, and Canadians speak American.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Which just goes to show that Australians speak English, and Canadians speak American.
Close enough to English for me.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Which just goes to show that Australians speak English, and Canadians speak American.
There is no such language as American.
Stupid Aussie.
I also hear Australia has shitty internet.
No. We have magic internet.
I turn off the modem, but it still works.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Which just goes to show that Australians speak English, and Canadians speak American.
Spanish is the principle language of the Americas. Duh.
Yeah the Americas south of the United States of America.
Quote from: "RW"
Yeah the Americas south of the United States of America.
True although speaking Spanish in the western states is a plus. I gotta think there are Spanish speakers up where you live? Do you speak another language?
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "RW"
Yeah the Americas south of the United States of America.
True although speaking Spanish in the western states is a plus. I gotta think there are Spanish speakers up where you live? Do you speak another language?
In my area, there aren't a whole heck of a lot - at least not a considerable number. I looked it up and Canada wide it's about 2.5% of our population.
I speak some French but not enough to say I'm fluent.
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "RW"
Yeah the Americas south of the United States of America.
True although speaking Spanish in the western states is a plus. I gotta think there are Spanish speakers up where you live? Do you speak another language?
In my area, there aren't a whole heck of a lot - at least not a considerable number. I looked it up and Canada wide it's about 2.5% of our population.
I speak some French but not enough to say I'm fluent.
I'm noticing more Spanish speakers in Saskatchewan working in the landscaping business.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "RW"
Yeah the Americas south of the United States of America.
True although speaking Spanish in the western states is a plus. I gotta think there are Spanish speakers up where you live? Do you speak another language?
In my area, there aren't a whole heck of a lot - at least not a considerable number. I looked it up and Canada wide it's about 2.5% of our population.
I speak some French but not enough to say I'm fluent.
I'm noticing more Spanish speakers in Saskatchewan working in the landscaping business.
I often hear Spanish being spoken in public places, but I have not personally met many Latin Americans yet.
... So you support the rising tide of xenophobia in Australia?
Yes.
No muslims.
No chinks.
That was blunt. I think Rambos head might explode.
Mr Crowley aka Conan Doyle aka Gary Choking The Chicken aka cc Latarte aka Odinson is nothing but a racist twiirlybrian crap'n drool sinophobic islamophobic anti-Semitic anti catholic fruitcake moron liar spammer who doesn't believe that Australia should be populated by Asians and muslims because Mr Crowley aka Conan Doyle aka Gary Choking The Chicken aka cc Latarte aka Odinson is nothing but a racist twiirlybrian crap'n drool sinophobic islamophobic anti-Semitic anti catholic fruitcake moron liar spammer
I'm also a passable cook.
Only because I give you cooking lessons.
Quote from: "Rambo Wong"
Mr Crowley aka Conan Doyle aka Gary Choking The Chicken aka cc Latarte aka Odinson is nothing but a racist twiirlybrian crap'n drool sinophobic islamophobic anti-Semitic anti catholic fruitcake moron liar spammer who doesn't believe that Australia should be populated by Asians and muslims because Mr Crowley aka Conan Doyle aka Gary Choking The Chicken aka cc Latarte aka Odinson is nothing but a racist twiirlybrian crap'n drool sinophobic islamophobic anti-Semitic anti catholic fruitcake moron liar spammer
Shut the fuck up you repetitive moron.
I already knew how to boil eggs.
Boiling eggs isn't my strong suit. Massaging them is where I excell. Would you like lessons there as well?
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Yes.
No muslims.
No Asians.
First one yes, second one [size=200]NO!![/size]
Quote from: "RW"
Boiling eggs isn't my strong suit. Massaging them is where I excell. Would you like lessons there as well?
Coddled or cuddled
A little from column A. A little from column B.
;)
Quote from: "RW"
Boiling eggs isn't my strong suit. Massaging them is where I excell. Would you like lessons there as well?
Good @ it?
Of course!
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "RW"
Boiling eggs isn't my strong suit. Massaging them is where I excell. Would you like lessons there as well?
Good @ it?
The gals here are the best of the best
It's a requirement for membership
cc gives us private lessons ac_blush
Quote from: "RW"
Of course!
A pleasant surprise.
Not at your age.
They're looking for suspicious lumps.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Not at your age.
They're looking for suspicious lumps.
How old is TD anyway?
So old, that when he surfs the sharks ignore him. He's past his "Consume by" date.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
So old, that when he surfs the sharks ignore him. He's past his "Consume by" date.
He's older, but he surfs?
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
So old, that when he surfs the sharks ignore him. He's past his "Consume by" date.

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Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Not at your age.
They're looking for suspicious lumps.
How old is TD anyway?
Yeah. How old is that fucker?
Let's guess!
Quote from: "RW"
Let's guess!
Real fucking old.
He's so old, he still uses 9' surfboards.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
He's so old, he still uses 9' surfboards.
ac_dunno
Back in the 50's surfboards used to be around 9 feet long.
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Back in the 50's surfboards used to be around 9 feet long.
Still are Crow. My quiver ranges from 6'2" to 9'0". Ride em all. My 9'0" weighs less than ten pounds. Super low volume. Beyond that I'm a ledgend @ my break. Surf it almost every day. I could surf that break blind folded. I have miles of photos. How old are you homeboy, and please tell me you not an inland wanker.
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Back in the 50's surfboards used to be around 9 feet long.
Still are Crow. My quiver ranges from 6'2" to 9'0". Ride em all. My 9'0" weighs less than ten pounds. Super low volume. Beyond that I'm a ledgend @ my break. Surf it almost every day. I could surf that break blind folded. I have miles of photos. How old are you homeboy, and please tell me you not an inland wanker.
I'm an inlander.
ac_blush
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
I see. For some reason I thought you lived in Vancover. Probably closer to the Atlantic? I do miss the mountains. Both in winter and summer. Miss it.
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
I see. For some reason I thought you lived in Vancover. Probably closer to the Atlantic? I do miss the mountains. Both in winter and summer. Miss it.
No, it's about five times further to the Atlantic ocean..
You don't know where Calgary is?
ac_wot
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
I see. For some reason I thought you lived in Vancover. Probably closer to the Atlantic? I do miss the mountains. Both in winter and summer. Miss it.
No, it's about five times further to the Atlantic ocean..
You don't know where Calgary is?
ac_wot
Sorry, never been up there. Wanna invite me? Kidding....
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
I see. For some reason I thought you lived in Vancover. Probably closer to the Atlantic? I do miss the mountains. Both in winter and summer. Miss it.
This floors me. Have you never looked at a map of North America before?
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I tried my hand at surfing while staying in San Clemente and again in Honolulu down at Waikiki. We went down to Banzai pipeline as well but I didn't bother touching the water as I'm not a very good surfer.
Me neither. Not built for it is my excuse...
Biting tongue....
As you should...
I spent time on the beaches in Zhuhai and the Caribbean, but surf is a man's sport IMO. However, TD proves there is always an exception. :001_tongue: :tease:
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Where do you live? I've never live farther than 10 miles from the ocean, except when I want to school in Sacramento.
I live in Calgary, Alberta..
It's 1000 kilometres from the ocean.
I see. For some reason I thought you lived in Vancover. Probably closer to the Atlantic? I do miss the mountains. Both in winter and summer. Miss it.
No, it's about five times further to the Atlantic ocean..
You don't know where Calgary is?
ac_wot
Sorry, never been up there. Wanna invite me? Kidding....
I would love for you to visit the vibrant, cosmopolitan city of Calgary and take in South West Alberta and South East BC too.