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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: RW on February 11, 2016, 10:07:42 PM

Title: Voting
Post by: RW on February 11, 2016, 10:07:42 PM
Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2016, 10:12:06 PM
Quote from: "RW"Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?

Doesn't apply to me, I don't vote.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: RW on February 11, 2016, 10:12:24 PM
Why not?
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Bricktop on February 11, 2016, 10:31:14 PM
Quote from: "RW"Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?


Because no left/centrist government trusts electronic voting.



It favours the wealthy, right sided voters.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: RW on February 11, 2016, 10:32:59 PM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "RW"Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?


Because no left/centrist government trusts electronic voting.



It favours the wealthy, right sided voters.

Considering the transactions we do securely via electronics these days, shouldn't we be getting past this point already though?  I read somewhere that our last federal election exceeded $400 MILLION.  That to me is staggering!
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Bricktop on February 11, 2016, 10:34:56 PM
Electronic voting favours those with the means and intelligence to use electronic devices, and disenfranchises those who have been technically abandoned.



This is not a barrier, as there are simple solutions to ensure everyone has the opportunity.



Even phone voting could be implemented.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: RW on February 11, 2016, 10:39:36 PM
So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Bricktop on February 11, 2016, 10:47:35 PM
Yes. Older citizens won't use electronic devices.



But they can telephone their vote in, or visit polling stations at their shops, malls, aged care facilities and council chambers.



Even postal works.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
Quote from: "RW"So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.

That sucks.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2016, 10:50:01 PM
Quote from: "RW"Why not?

I put my faith in a much higher power than Nenshi, Notley and Trudeau.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2016, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "RW"Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?


Because no left/centrist government trusts electronic voting.



It favours the wealthy, right sided voters.

Considering the transactions we do securely via electronics these days, shouldn't we be getting past this point already though?  I read somewhere that our last federal election exceeded $400 MILLION.  That to me is staggering!

If you want to take it further, whey even have elections at all? We could vote on all issues ourselves.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Bricktop on February 12, 2016, 12:12:53 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"Why not?

I put my faith in a much higher power than Nenshi, Notley and Trudeau.


Obama?



Mmmm...I don't know if that's wise.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Bricktop on February 12, 2016, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "RW"Why are we still voting in person using a pencil when electing our political types?


Because no left/centrist government trusts electronic voting.



It favours the wealthy, right sided voters.

Considering the transactions we do securely via electronics these days, shouldn't we be getting past this point already though?  I read somewhere that our last federal election exceeded $400 MILLION.  That to me is staggering!

If you want to take it further, whey even have elections at all? We could vote on all issues ourselves.


Exactly.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2016, 12:18:55 AM
Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"Why not?

I put my faith in a much higher power than Nenshi, Notley and Trudeau.


Obama?



Mmmm...I don't know if that's wise.

Not even Obama.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Renee on February 12, 2016, 09:06:54 AM
Quote from: "RW"So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.


Bullshit, most of the voting booths in the US are electronic touch pad type devices. All you see is OLD people at the polling places. They are either voting or working the polls.



The proplem is that the young are too lazy or disconnected to bother to take time out from their electronic network entanglements to get off their ass and vote.



Unless of course if some leftard asshole like Bernie Sanders is screaming the word "FREE", then they come running like lemmings.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.


Bullshit, most of the voting booths in the US are electronic touch pad type devices. All you see is OLD people at the polling places. They are either voting or working the polls.



The proplem is that the young are too lazy or disconnected to bother to take time out from their electronic network entanglements to get off their ass and vote.



Unless of course if some leftard asshole like Bernie Sanders is screaming the word "FREE", then they come running like lemmings.

I googled an article last night about e voting. It was four years old, but aside from Estonia, it hasn't really worked so well anywhere it was tried. One of the places that could claim some success in it was your state of New Jersey.

http://qz.com/24614/the-global-e-voting-disaster-why-the-us-and-the-world-shouldnt-try-to-make-democracy-high-tech/
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: RW on February 12, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.


Bullshit, most of the voting booths in the US are electronic touch pad type devices. All you see is OLD people at the polling places. They are either voting or working the polls.



The proplem is that the young are too lazy or disconnected to bother to take time out from their electronic network entanglements to get off their ass and vote.



Unless of course if some leftard asshole like Bernie Sanders is screaming the word "FREE", then they come running like lemmings.

I meant voting from home and not going to a polling station.
Title: Re: Voting
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2016, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"So it favours young people over old people in other words.  Not sure that's a bad thing either.


Bullshit, most of the voting booths in the US are electronic touch pad type devices. All you see is OLD people at the polling places. They are either voting or working the polls.



The proplem is that the young are too lazy or disconnected to bother to take time out from their electronic network entanglements to get off their ass and vote.



Unless of course if some leftard asshole like Bernie Sanders is screaming the word "FREE", then they come running like lemmings.

I meant voting from home and not going to a polling station.

We'll get there sooner rather than lately.