Title: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 03:13:04 PM
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 03:13:04 PM
Terminally ill and rapidly deteriorating, a Calgary woman suffering from ALS has died after being granted court permission to have doctors end her life — the first such ruling in Alberta.Quote
In a written decision posted online Tuesday, Justice Sheilah Martin said the unidentified woman met the criteria for a constitutional exemption to the law prohibiting physician-assisted suicide.The woman died Monday with her family at her side.
"My colleague and I were grateful and honoured to be able to help her," Dr. Ellen Wiebe, a clinical professor at the University of British Columbia, said in an e-mail to The Canadian Press, adding the woman made the trip from Calgary to Vancouver the same day. Wiebe is one of a group of doctors who have formed an organization called Hemlock AID to provide B.C. patients with information about and access to assisted death. She has said she has no qualms about helping patients fulfil their final wish.
"I don't consider giving someone a good death to be causing harm," she said late last year. "That's the main aim of helping somebody at the end of life, to help them have a good death. If what they want is to die sooner rather than later and do it comfortably, then that's a good death for them."
In her decision, Martin said the woman appeared ready to die, quoting from her statement to the court.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," said the woman, known only by her initials, H.S. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon. I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking. I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
Martin heard submissions from the woman's lawyer, Olivier Fuldauer, last week seeking an order allowing the procedure, the first such application in Alberta.
In the hearing, the woman, who could no longer speak, provided two affidavits detailing her condition and her wish to die.
"I note that Ms. S. attended the hearing of this application and it was clear to me from seeing her in the courtroom that she was fully engaged in and attentively following the proceedings," Martin said.
"I am satisfied that Ms. S. fully and freely consents to the termination of her life."
The retired health care worker was diagnosed with ALS in April 2013.
The degenerative neurological disease destroys motor neutrons and weakens most muscles of the body.
It is untreatable and terminal, Martin noted.
Postmedia asked to cover the application, but the judge agreed with Fuldauer that for privacy reasons the hearing should be closed.
"I heard from a representative of the media who argued the public's right to know should be protected," Martin said. "However, in the circumstances, I determined that Ms. S.'s privacy, dignity and autonomy were the more important interests and the hearing was held in camera," she said.
"This application pertains to Ms. S.'s medical state and to the fundamental life choice she wishes to make.
"Nothing could be more personal and, in my view, the need to protect Ms. S.'s privacy outweighs the benefit of an open courtroom in the circumstances of this case."
About time IMHO.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 03, 2016, 03:21:00 PM
Post by: Renee on March 03, 2016, 03:21:00 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
Terminally ill and rapidly deteriorating, a Calgary woman suffering from ALS has died after being granted court permission to have doctors end her life — the first such ruling in Alberta.Quote
In a written decision posted online Tuesday, Justice Sheilah Martin said the unidentified woman met the criteria for a constitutional exemption to the law prohibiting physician-assisted suicide.The woman died Monday with her family at her side.
"My colleague and I were grateful and honoured to be able to help her," Dr. Ellen Wiebe, a clinical professor at the University of British Columbia, said in an e-mail to The Canadian Press, adding the woman made the trip from Calgary to Vancouver the same day. Wiebe is one of a group of doctors who have formed an organization called Hemlock AID to provide B.C. patients with information about and access to assisted death. She has said she has no qualms about helping patients fulfil their final wish.
"I don't consider giving someone a good death to be causing harm," she said late last year. "That's the main aim of helping somebody at the end of life, to help them have a good death. If what they want is to die sooner rather than later and do it comfortably, then that's a good death for them."
In her decision, Martin said the woman appeared ready to die, quoting from her statement to the court.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," said the woman, known only by her initials, H.S. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon. I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking. I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
Martin heard submissions from the woman's lawyer, Olivier Fuldauer, last week seeking an order allowing the procedure, the first such application in Alberta.
In the hearing, the woman, who could no longer speak, provided two affidavits detailing her condition and her wish to die.
"I note that Ms. S. attended the hearing of this application and it was clear to me from seeing her in the courtroom that she was fully engaged in and attentively following the proceedings," Martin said.
"I am satisfied that Ms. S. fully and freely consents to the termination of her life."
The retired health care worker was diagnosed with ALS in April 2013.
The degenerative neurological disease destroys motor neutrons and weakens most muscles of the body.
It is untreatable and terminal, Martin noted.
Postmedia asked to cover the application, but the judge agreed with Fuldauer that for privacy reasons the hearing should be closed.
"I heard from a representative of the media who argued the public's right to know should be protected," Martin said. "However, in the circumstances, I determined that Ms. S.'s privacy, dignity and autonomy were the more important interests and the hearing was held in camera," she said.
"This application pertains to Ms. S.'s medical state and to the fundamental life choice she wishes to make.
"Nothing could be more personal and, in my view, the need to protect Ms. S.'s privacy outweighs the benefit of an open courtroom in the circumstances of this case."
About time IMHO.
I am all for it too.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Annie on March 03, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Post by: Annie on March 03, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 07:59:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 07:59:02 PM
Terminally ill and rapidly deteriorating, a Calgary woman suffering from ALS has died after being granted court permission to have doctors end her life — the first such ruling in Alberta.Quote
In a written decision posted online Tuesday, Justice Sheilah Martin said the unidentified woman met the criteria for a constitutional exemption to the law prohibiting physician-assisted suicide.The woman died Monday with her family at her side.
"My colleague and I were grateful and honoured to be able to help her," Dr. Ellen Wiebe, a clinical professor at the University of British Columbia, said in an e-mail to The Canadian Press, adding the woman made the trip from Calgary to Vancouver the same day. Wiebe is one of a group of doctors who have formed an organization called Hemlock AID to provide B.C. patients with information about and access to assisted death. She has said she has no qualms about helping patients fulfil their final wish.
"I don't consider giving someone a good death to be causing harm," she said late last year. "That's the main aim of helping somebody at the end of life, to help them have a good death. If what they want is to die sooner rather than later and do it comfortably, then that's a good death for them."
In her decision, Martin said the woman appeared ready to die, quoting from her statement to the court.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," said the woman, known only by her initials, H.S. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon. I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking. I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
Martin heard submissions from the woman's lawyer, Olivier Fuldauer, last week seeking an order allowing the procedure, the first such application in Alberta.
In the hearing, the woman, who could no longer speak, provided two affidavits detailing her condition and her wish to die.
"I note that Ms. S. attended the hearing of this application and it was clear to me from seeing her in the courtroom that she was fully engaged in and attentively following the proceedings," Martin said.
"I am satisfied that Ms. S. fully and freely consents to the termination of her life."
The retired health care worker was diagnosed with ALS in April 2013.
The degenerative neurological disease destroys motor neutrons and weakens most muscles of the body.
It is untreatable and terminal, Martin noted.
Postmedia asked to cover the application, but the judge agreed with Fuldauer that for privacy reasons the hearing should be closed.
"I heard from a representative of the media who argued the public's right to know should be protected," Martin said. "However, in the circumstances, I determined that Ms. S.'s privacy, dignity and autonomy were the more important interests and the hearing was held in camera," she said.
"This application pertains to Ms. S.'s medical state and to the fundamental life choice she wishes to make.
"Nothing could be more personal and, in my view, the need to protect Ms. S.'s privacy outweighs the benefit of an open courtroom in the circumstances of this case."
About time IMHO.
terrible
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 08:22:49 PM
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 08:22:49 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
I think letting someone who is going to suffer terribly beQuote from: "RW"firing dying to be forced to do so.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 10:24:05 PM
Post by: RW on March 03, 2016, 10:24:05 PM
I think letting someone who is going to suffer terribly beQuote from: "RW"firing dying to be forced to do so.
:confused1:
Damn autocorrect! I fixed it.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: easter bunny on March 04, 2016, 01:23:51 AM
Post by: easter bunny on March 04, 2016, 01:23:51 AM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: easter bunny on March 04, 2016, 01:36:35 AM
Post by: easter bunny on March 04, 2016, 01:36:35 AM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 02:31:24 AM
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 02:31:24 AM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
I have a few extra names for ya
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 06:35:51 AM
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 06:35:51 AM
The alternative is not very pleasant either. Soup. Nothing but soup. Every day.Quote from: "easter bunny"ac_unsure (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.c%20...%20esized.jpg%22%3Ehttps://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Yeah, and nothing but fucking hats as presents for birthdays and Christmas.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
The alternative is not very pleasant either. Soup. Nothing but soup. Every day.Quote from: "easter bunny"ac_unsure (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.c%20...%20esized.jpg%22%3Ehttps://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 08:50:48 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 08:50:48 AM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Terminally ill and rapidly deteriorating, a Calgary woman suffering from ALS has died after being granted court permission to have doctors end her life — the first such ruling in Alberta.Quote
In a written decision posted online Tuesday, Justice Sheilah Martin said the unidentified woman met the criteria for a constitutional exemption to the law prohibiting physician-assisted suicide.The woman died Monday with her family at her side.
"My colleague and I were grateful and honoured to be able to help her," Dr. Ellen Wiebe, a clinical professor at the University of British Columbia, said in an e-mail to The Canadian Press, adding the woman made the trip from Calgary to Vancouver the same day. Wiebe is one of a group of doctors who have formed an organization called Hemlock AID to provide B.C. patients with information about and access to assisted death. She has said she has no qualms about helping patients fulfil their final wish.
"I don't consider giving someone a good death to be causing harm," she said late last year. "That's the main aim of helping somebody at the end of life, to help them have a good death. If what they want is to die sooner rather than later and do it comfortably, then that's a good death for them."
In her decision, Martin said the woman appeared ready to die, quoting from her statement to the court.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," said the woman, known only by her initials, H.S. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon. I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking. I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
Martin heard submissions from the woman's lawyer, Olivier Fuldauer, last week seeking an order allowing the procedure, the first such application in Alberta.
In the hearing, the woman, who could no longer speak, provided two affidavits detailing her condition and her wish to die.
"I note that Ms. S. attended the hearing of this application and it was clear to me from seeing her in the courtroom that she was fully engaged in and attentively following the proceedings," Martin said.
"I am satisfied that Ms. S. fully and freely consents to the termination of her life."
The retired health care worker was diagnosed with ALS in April 2013.
The degenerative neurological disease destroys motor neutrons and weakens most muscles of the body.
It is untreatable and terminal, Martin noted.
Postmedia asked to cover the application, but the judge agreed with Fuldauer that for privacy reasons the hearing should be closed.
"I heard from a representative of the media who argued the public's right to know should be protected," Martin said. "However, in the circumstances, I determined that Ms. S.'s privacy, dignity and autonomy were the more important interests and the hearing was held in camera," she said.
"This application pertains to Ms. S.'s medical state and to the fundamental life choice she wishes to make.
"Nothing could be more personal and, in my view, the need to protect Ms. S.'s privacy outweighs the benefit of an open courtroom in the circumstances of this case."
About time IMHO.
It sure as hell is.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 12:24:08 PM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 12:24:08 PM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?:laugh3:
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.:laugh3:
Don't live in Canada. Guess I'm off the hook.
Didn't answer my question. Why so angry?
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 12:34:03 PM
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 12:34:03 PM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?:laugh3:
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.:laugh3:
Don't live in Canada. Guess I'm off the hook.
Didn't answer my question. Why so angry?
Every time you touch your keyboard you show off just how few active brain cells you actually have.
Is that your mission here?
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 12:56:06 PM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 04, 2016, 12:56:06 PM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?:laugh3:
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.:laugh3:
Don't live in Canada. Guess I'm off the hook.
Didn't answer my question. Why so angry?
Every time you touch your keyboard you show off just how few active brain cells you actually have.:oeudC: :laugh3:
Is that your mission here?
If I get mad and leave, there's only 5 left.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 01:06:21 PM
Post by: Renee on March 04, 2016, 01:06:21 PM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?:laugh3:
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.:laugh3:
Don't live in Canada. Guess I'm off the hook.
Didn't answer my question. Why so angry?
Every time you touch your keyboard you show off just how few active brain cells you actually have.:oeudC: :laugh3:
Is that your mission here?
If I get mad and leave, there's only 5 left.
Yeah but our collective average forum IQ will increase by at least 20 points.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 02:05:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 02:05:18 PM
Okay, where do I sign up to become a doctor in Canada? There is an assload of people I want to kill.Quote from: "Renee"ac_biggrin
Whoa, hope I'm not on the list? Why so angry?
Do you live in Canada....or don't you know where you live?:laugh3:
Maybe next time think before you write?
Just a thought.:laugh3:
Don't live in Canada. Guess I'm off the hook.
Didn't answer my question. Why so angry?
Every time you touch your keyboard you show off just how few active brain cells you actually have.:oeudC: :laugh3:
Is that your mission here?
If I get mad and leave, there's only 5 left.
Yeah but our collective average forum IQ will increase by at least 20 points.
here here
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:30:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:30:08 PM
This is tough one for me. On one hand I don't agree with interfering with life/death. On the other I have very strong compassion for the suffering.Quote from: "Dove"
We all feel like this Dove(except me, I'm anti X-tian pro-death). Kill em all I say.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:34:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 10:34:14 PM
I'm anti-suffering needlessly. Death is inevitable.Quote from: "RW"
Except you baby-doll.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:13:07 PM
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:13:07 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:14:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:14:03 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
That's it?Quote from: "RW"
Nah. It's just a complicated, delicate and heartbreaking situation and I don't have much to say. Keep in mind, my job is keeping people comfortable and cared for while they die.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:18:26 PM
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:18:26 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
You know you can fight that with food, right? Look up Dr Terry Walsh (?). Amazing. But if you get the place you wanna end your life....don't go out without prayer. I'd like to chill with you in the kingdom ♡I have MS. If shit gets bad, I want off this ride.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
Post by: RW on March 04, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:42:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2016, 11:42:04 PM
It's Terry Wahls. I know people who have done it and had little success. Plus I hate organ meat.Quote from: "RW"
Have you tried it? Not organ meat, the Wahls diet?
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 12:05:00 AM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 12:05:00 AM
Plus at this point, I don't have progressive MS.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 12:38:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 12:38:18 AM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 02:08:42 AM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 02:08:42 AM
:)
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
I have MS. If shit gets bad, I want off this ride.Quote from: "RW"
After that comment in the vegetable thread.....you might want to think twice about getting off this ride.
BTW, I know you don't like organ meat but do mountain oysters count? You would probably eat those.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 12:57:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 12:57:23 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 01:27:13 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 01:27:13 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
I'm going to get one with a super loud train horn in it and scare the shit out of people.
That's how I'll roll.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
ac_smile
Thank you, old picture.....sun glow effect added.
I thought it came out pretty good.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
ac_smile
I do not care. Are you in to fat old tattooed bikers from Saskatchewan?
Thank you, old picture.....sun glow effect added.
I thought it came out pretty good.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
She looks lnice no doubt but what's with the blow pop head on the shrunken body?Quote from: "RW"
Shrunken body????? Are you on dope?
Oh wait, what am I saying......of course you are.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:22:57 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:22:57 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
ac_smile
I do not care. Are you in to fat old tattooed bikers from Saskatchewan?
Thank you, old picture.....sun glow effect added.
I thought it came out pretty good.
What the hell did you do to that post?
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
ac_smile
I do not care. Are you in to fat old tattooed bikers from Saskatchewan?
Thank you, old picture.....sun glow effect added.
I thought it came out pretty good.
What the hell did you do to that post?:laugh3:
I am home and in to the barrel wash.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
Yeah and I could wash it down with a bag of dicks tooQuote from: "RW":sneaky2:
If I ever end up in a wheelchair, I'm getting t-shits made that says, "I'm not crippled. I'm just too lazy to walk" and "Recipient of the Awesome Parking Forever award".
ac_biggrin
Make sure it's a motorized wheelchair. That way you can piss people like me off when you go to places like Disney World.ac_biggrin
God damn cripples and their frickin scooters.:laugh3:
You look very nice Renee.
ac_smile
I do not care. Are you in to fat old tattooed bikers from Saskatchewan?
Thank you, old picture.....sun glow effect added.
I thought it came out pretty good.
What the hell did you do to that post?:laugh3:
I am home and in to the barrel wash.
Don't post when you are half in the bag. You do and say things you regret.
But I don't have any personal experience with anything that; it's just what I've heard.
You should probably ask Shen Li.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
She looks lnice no doubt but what's with the blow pop head on the shrunken body?Quote from: "RW"
Shrunken body????? Are you on dope?
Oh wait, what am I saying......of course you are.:laugh3:
I don't use drugs until after the kids go to bed (usually).
This is what I see:
It looks like a normal head and neck but your shoulders look small and weird.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
She looks lnice no doubt but what's with the blow pop head on the shrunken body?Quote from: "RW"
Shrunken body????? Are you on dope?
Oh wait, what am I saying......of course you are.:laugh3:
I don't use drugs until after the kids go to bed (usually).
This is what I see:(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i66.tinypic.com/a179t5.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i66.tinypic.com/a179t5.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
It looks like a normal head and neck but your shoulders look small and weird.
Well the dope you are doing is fucking with your vision. What you think are my shoulders are actually my fists. I have my fingers hooked into the spaghetti straps of the cami I'm wearing.
The stuff in the background that is somewhat shadowed are actually my shoulders.
If I had more courage I would post the original.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 06:36:50 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 06:36:50 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 07:17:16 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 07:17:16 PM
What I've outlined is all I can see. GOH!Quote from: "RW"
Well what you have outline is rather disturbing.....I hope it gives you nightmares.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Bricktop on March 05, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 05, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
What I've outlined is all I can see. GOH!Quote from: "RW"
Well what you have outline is rather disturbing.....I hope it gives you nightmares.:laugh3:
It's actually driving me nuts! I'm almost to the point of begging you for a private viewing of the original.
%}#**%^*%%^*!!!!
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 08:51:46 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 08:51:46 PM
What I've outlined is all I can see. GOH!Quote from: "RW"
Well what you have outline is rather disturbing.....I hope it gives you nightmares.:laugh3:
It's actually driving me nuts! I'm almost to the point of begging you for a private viewing of the original.
%}#**%^*%%^*!!!!
Okay, fuck it. Like I really give a shit what someone thinks of or does with a 20 plus year old pic of me. The sad part is I still have the same hair cut.
Here goes (deep breath) look fast.
........Gone.........
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
Post by: RW on March 05, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
That's a fantastic pic btw! I like it better than the weird shrinky shoulder avatar version haha
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 09:24:52 PM
Post by: Renee on March 05, 2016, 09:24:52 PM
Thank you! That was driving me nuts!Quote from: "RW"
That's a fantastic pic btw! I like it better than the weird shrinky shoulder avatar version haha
Thank you, I have a lot of old pics of me. For a while I kept a portfolio because I was seriously considering a career in theater.
But life happened and like so many other things, I just let it go by the wayside.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Annie on March 06, 2016, 01:03:26 AM
Post by: Annie on March 06, 2016, 01:03:26 AM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2016, 07:40:05 AM
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2016, 07:40:05 AM
Uhh I saw the exact same thing, Renee. I thought you photo shopped yourself or somethingQuote from: "GrAnnie":laugh3:
I guess I'm going to have to fix it for all you vision challenged inviduals.
Ugh....you people make my life hard....
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Annie on March 06, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Post by: Annie on March 06, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 06, 2016, 08:16:34 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on March 06, 2016, 08:16:34 AM
I think letting someone who is going to suffer terribly before dying shouldn't be forced to.Quote from: "RW"
Youre right. This is a serious thread. I believe it's a Doctors duty to discuss this alternative with family members. Makes it easier on everyone. Mom lived a charmed long life in her own home. As time passed her quality of life went down hill. That morning we took her to the hospital. She was very ill. She was t going to make it. Her Doctor suggested a mix with the injection he wanted to give her. She passed away within the hour. It was sad. She looked very peaceful.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
Post by: Renee on March 06, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
Doesn't matter what you do, you still look goodQuote from: "GrAnnie"ac_smile
Thanks GrAnnie, but I see what you and RW are seeing and it does look really creepy in a slideshow kinda way.
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: keeper on March 06, 2016, 08:36:17 AM
Post by: keeper on March 06, 2016, 08:36:17 AM
Doesn't matter what you do, you still look goodQuote from: "GrAnnie"ac_smile
Thanks GrAnnie, but I see what you and RW are seeing and it does look really creepy in a slideshow kinda way.:laugh3:
Renee, I really like your Avatar.....
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: keeper on March 06, 2016, 08:39:51 AM
Post by: keeper on March 06, 2016, 08:39:51 AM
The alternative is not very pleasant either. Soup. Nothing but soup. Every day.Quote from: "easter bunny"ac_unsure (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.c%20...%20esized.jpg%22%3Ehttps://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Yeah, and nothing but fucking hats as presents for birthdays and Christmas.acc_angry
Not true,
Sun Glasses
New Ear buds
brush
curling iron
lip stick
nose hair clippers
Q-Tips
eye drops
mouth wash
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: easter bunny on March 08, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
Post by: easter bunny on March 08, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
The alternative is not very pleasant either. Soup. Nothing but soup. Every day.Quote from: "easter bunny"ac_unsure (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.c%20...%20esized.jpg%22%3Ehttps://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Yeah, and nothing but fucking hats as presents for birthdays and Christmas.acc_angry
Not true,
Sun Glasses
New Ear buds
brush
curling iron
lip stick
nose hair clippers
Q-Tips
eye drops
mouth wash
ac_biggrin
Title: Re: And so it begins - Death by Doctor
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
The alternative is not very pleasant either. Soup. Nothing but soup. Every day.Quote from: "easter bunny"ac_unsure (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.c%20...%20esized.jpg%22%3Ehttps://horrorandsons.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/20160215_013239_resized.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Yeah, and nothing but fucking hats as presents for birthdays and Christmas.acc_angry
Not true,
Sun Glasses
New Ear buds
brush
curling iron
lip stick
nose hair clippers
Q-Tips
eye drops
mouth wash
ac_biggrin
lol Keeper