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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: easter bunny on April 05, 2016, 11:29:58 PM

Title: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 05, 2016, 11:29:58 PM
*swipes card*


Quote from: "card reader"use chip reader


*inserts card into chip reader*


Quote from: "chip reader"chip malfunction - swipe card


*swipes card*


Quote from: "card reader"use chip reader




Self driving cars!  Bring them on!



I can't wait to see the first forty thousand car pile up with all the lithium batteries going up like nuclear bombs and people trying desperately to bail out of the windows (because the doors won't open) as they head toward ground zero.


Quote from: "self driving car"Error - door cannot open while vehicle is moving.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 05, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
Oh easter, you're so doom and gloom!  What's a few lithium battery fires when you can play Jenga while operating a motor vehicle?
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 05, 2016, 11:35:19 PM
I know! I'm such a skeptic!  :laugh:
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 05, 2016, 11:38:20 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 05, 2016, 11:40:47 PM
My husband is trying to talk me into getting a Tesla.  Any day now I'll be getting grafts (is that the word I want?) and financial outlooks.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 05, 2016, 11:51:35 PM
I'ma scared o them lithium batteries. =(
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2016, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: "easter bunny"*swipes card*


Quote from: "card reader"use chip reader


*inserts card into chip reader*


Quote from: "chip reader"chip malfunction - swipe card


*swipes card*


Quote from: "card reader"use chip reader




Self driving cars!  Bring them on!



I can't wait to see the first forty thousand car pile up with all the lithium batteries going up like nuclear bombs and people trying desperately to bail out of the windows (because the doors won't open) as they head toward ground zero.


Quote from: "self driving car"Error - door cannot open while vehicle is moving.






 ac_lmfao
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 05, 2016, 11:56:40 PM
Have you read up about the safety in the Tesla battery?
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 06, 2016, 12:01:07 AM
Quote from: "RW"Have you read up about the safety in the Tesla battery?

Nope. I guess I should do that.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 12:46:06 AM
Quote from: "RW"My husband is trying to talk me into getting a Tesla.  Any day now I'll be getting grafts (is that the word I want?) and financial outlooks.

I thought I heard you have to put down money to enter a draw to buy one. I am going to wait and see if the product matches the hype.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 12:50:56 AM
They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 06, 2016, 01:06:11 AM
The weakest Tesla battery (//https) (40kwh)= 144 mega Joules. (40,000 watts x 3600 seconds)



//http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/megajoules-to-kilowatt-hours-conversion.html


Quote1 kilogram of TNT =  4.184 mega joules

Under controlled conditions one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent


So it's like sitting on 34 kg of TNT, unless you have the one that's like 70 kg. I need that 'scared' smiley now.   :shock:
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"The weakest Tesla battery (//https) (40kwh)= 144 mega Joules. (40,000 watts x 3600 seconds)



//http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/megajoules-to-kilowatt-hours-conversion.html


Quote1 kilogram of TNT =  4.184 mega joules

Under controlled conditions one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent


So it's like sitting on 34 kg of TNT, unless you have the one that's like 70 kg. I need that 'scared' smiley now.   :shock:

My understanding is there are tons of checks and balances within the battery itself plus it a series of smaller batteries to mitigate a huge blow up. That's in addition to the cooling, fuses, etc.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.

I'm a tight ass so don't expect hearing of us getting one any time soon :)
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.

I'm a tight ass so don't expect hearing of us getting one any time soon :)

Is the Nissan Leaf cheaper?
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.

I'm a tight ass so don't expect hearing of us getting one any time soon :)

Is the Nissan Leaf cheaper?

The Tesla is more expensive.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 06, 2016, 01:40:11 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The weakest Tesla battery (//https) (40kwh)= 144 mega Joules. (40,000 watts x 3600 seconds)



//http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/megajoules-to-kilowatt-hours-conversion.html


Quote1 kilogram of TNT =  4.184 mega joules

Under controlled conditions one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent


So it's like sitting on 34 kg of TNT, unless you have the one that's like 70 kg. I need that 'scared' smiley now.   :shock:

My understanding is there are tons of checks and balances within the battery itself plus it a series of smaller batteries to mitigate a huge blow up. That's in addition to the cooling, fuses, etc.

Well that's all true of course. However...   ac_unsure



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Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 01:41:44 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.

I'm a tight ass so don't expect hearing of us getting one any time soon :)

Is the Nissan Leaf cheaper?

The Tesla is more expensive.

They haven't released the Canadian pricing yet but the American Model S starts at $35K so I'm assuming it will be higher in Canada making it indeed more expensive.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 01:45:45 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "easter bunny"The weakest Tesla battery (//https) (40kwh)= 144 mega Joules. (40,000 watts x 3600 seconds)



//http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/megajoules-to-kilowatt-hours-conversion.html


Quote1 kilogram of TNT =  4.184 mega joules

Under controlled conditions one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent


So it's like sitting on 34 kg of TNT, unless you have the one that's like 70 kg. I need that 'scared' smiley now.   :shock:

My understanding is there are tons of checks and balances within the battery itself plus it a series of smaller batteries to mitigate a huge blow up. That's in addition to the cooling, fuses, etc.

Well that's all true of course. However...   ac_unsure



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Good point.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"They are on back order a mile long because they made the new model affordable.

Okay, I wondered about the putting a down payment to enter a draw for one. If you purchase one, give us a Phil Edmunston lemon aid style honest rating of it.

I'm a tight ass so don't expect hearing of us getting one any time soon :)

Is the Nissan Leaf cheaper?

The Tesla is more expensive.

They haven't released the Canadian pricing yet but the American Model S starts at $35K so I'm assuming it will be higher in Canada making it indeed more expensive.

I checked and it shows the Leaf base model retailing for $32,698.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 01:48:02 AM
Plus rebates in ON and QC
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 06, 2016, 01:49:42 AM
Sorry Shen. =(
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:53:29 AM
Quote from: "RW"Plus rebates in ON and QC

Do you know how much the rebates are? I do not live in either province and we are not buying a new vehicle for a couple of years but I am curious.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 01:54:53 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"Sorry Shen. =(

 :laugh3:
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: easter bunny on April 06, 2016, 02:04:12 AM
=P

K. I'm off for today. ttyl guys. =)
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 02:50:55 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Plus rebates in ON and QC

Do you know how much the rebates are? I do not live in either province and we are not buying a new vehicle for a couple of years but I am curious.

Up to $8500 in ON. QC is $8000. BC is up to $5000.  



You can get rebates for putting a charging station at home ($600-$1000).
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"=P

K. I'm off for today. ttyl guys. =)

I'm sorry I missed you easter bunny.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 12:48:11 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Plus rebates in ON and QC

Do you know how much the rebates are? I do not live in either province and we are not buying a new vehicle for a couple of years but I am curious.

Up to $8500 in ON. QC is $8000. BC is up to $5000.  



You can get rebates for putting a charging station at home ($600-$1000).

hmm, $8500. ac_umm
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 06, 2016, 12:52:24 PM
It doesn't count for hybrid vehicles that you don't plug-in though.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2016, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: "RW"It doesn't count for hybrid vehicles that you don't plug-in though.

I am going to hold onto my ride a little longer anyway.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2016, 12:53:02 AM
Ford Focus has an electric model too.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 08, 2016, 01:20:41 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Ford Focus has an electric model too.

Yeah but then you have to drive a Ford Focus.  Ewwwww!
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: cc on April 08, 2016, 01:27:13 AM
Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2016, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2016, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Ford Focus has an electric model too.

Yeah but then you have to drive a Ford Focus.  Ewwwww!

We had a second hand Focus for almost three years. It served us well untl someone backed into it at a Co Op parking lot.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: cc on April 08, 2016, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.

I'm not surprised. Any product that can't hold its own (after a VERY brief startup ,, maybe) cannot justify its existence .... Georgia proving that.



That goes for wind and sun power production also



Then there is the further evil of "taxpayer funding". I'm all for helping those who honestly need help, but 3 are on the dole when they don't qualify for dole
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: RW on April 08, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Yeah I'm sure all of those lined up to get the new Tesla are just in it for the rebate.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: cc on April 08, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Yes, and the "oh, there's many who want one. That proves the need." is a hokey / contrived, unjustified taxpayer pay out lie



as cc hits the slap-shift  on the TBird, downshifts a couple of gears. burns a pint of fuel and  writes her name in rubber on the road  :wink: ("wink" = kidding)
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2016, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.

I'm not surprised. Any product that can't hold its own (after a VERY brief startup ,, maybe) cannot justify its existence .... Georgia proving that.



That goes for wind and sun power production also



Then there is the further evil of "taxpayer funding". I'm all for helping those who honestly need help, but 3 are on the dole when they don't qualify for dole

I completely agree cc. The proof is in the pudding. Cancel all subsidies for electric cars and we'll see if supply still has a problem meeting demand.



In my province we have paid $37 billion more for electricity thanks to taxpayers creating an artificial market for wind and solar.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: cc on April 08, 2016, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.

I'm not surprised. Any product that can't hold its own (after a VERY brief startup ,, maybe) cannot justify its existence .... Georgia proving that.



That goes for wind and sun power production also



Then there is the further evil of "taxpayer funding". I'm all for helping those who honestly need help, but 3 are on the dole when they don't qualify for dole

I completely agree cc. The proof is in the pudding. Cancel all subsidies for electric cars and we'll see if supply still has a problem meeting demand.



In my province we have paid $37 billion more for electricity thanks to taxpayers creating an artificial market for wind and solar.

Worse, the subsidization doesn't stop there. The real and huge subsidization is yet to come.



The intention was to have a gazilion  such subsidized vehicles meaning that the entire power network would have to be upgraded at huge cost, thereby greatly increasing the cost of power ...  a cost payed for by the general population  .... and of course no extra charge for those who caused it
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.

I'm not surprised. Any product that can't hold its own (after a VERY brief startup ,, maybe) cannot justify its existence .... Georgia proving that.



That goes for wind and sun power production also



Then there is the further evil of "taxpayer funding". I'm all for helping those who honestly need help, but 3 are on the dole when they don't qualify for dole

I completely agree cc. The proof is in the pudding. Cancel all subsidies for electric cars and we'll see if supply still has a problem meeting demand.



In my province we have paid $37 billion more for electricity thanks to taxpayers creating an artificial market for wind and solar.

Worse, the subsidization doesn't stop there. The real and huge subsidization is yet to come.



The intention was to have a gazilion  such subsidized vehicles meaning that the entire power network would have to be upgraded at huge cost, thereby greatly increasing the cost of power ...  a cost payed for by the general population  .... and of course no extra charge for those who caused it

And it will make no difference to the reason why we are deliberately making Westerners poorer---climate change.
Title: Re: chip malfunction - swipe card
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2016, 12:15:40 AM
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Good point


Quote BC is up to $5000

We taxpayers pay it for them? .. wtf?

I read that electric car sales were soaring in the state of Georgia until they cancelled subsidies and then they dropped like a stone.

I'm not surprised. Any product that can't hold its own (after a VERY brief startup ,, maybe) cannot justify its existence .... Georgia proving that.



That goes for wind and sun power production also



Then there is the further evil of "taxpayer funding". I'm all for helping those who honestly need help, but 3 are on the dole when they don't qualify for dole

I completely agree cc. The proof is in the pudding. Cancel all subsidies for electric cars and we'll see if supply still has a problem meeting demand.



In my province we have paid $37 billion more for electricity thanks to taxpayers creating an artificial market for wind and solar.

Worse, the subsidization doesn't stop there. The real and huge subsidization is yet to come.



The intention was to have a gazilion  such subsidized vehicles meaning that the entire power network would have to be upgraded at huge cost, thereby greatly increasing the cost of power ...  a cost payed for by the general population  .... and of course no extra charge for those who caused it

A worldwide switch to electric vehicles will inevitably mean using more coal.
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