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Title: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2016, 01:10:17 PM
This turned out to be a heavily discussed topic on another forum, so I'm trying it here.   :confused1:



//http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/starbucks-iced-coffee-contains-too-much-ice-not-enough-coffee/article_543207ea-248b-5398-8196-f4a40cc0f070.html


QuoteAn Illinois woman has filed suit against Starbucks, claiming that the coffee chain is "underfilling" its cold beverages, duping customers and serving drinks that contain less coffee than advertised.



"Starbucks is misleading customers who expect to receive the advertised amount of fluid ounces," states the class-action lawsuit, filed last week in federal court. "For example, if a gallon of gas is advertised as costing three dollars, and a customer pays three dollars and pumps gas, that customer is expecting to receive a gallon of gas — not approximately half a gallon."


I, Peaches, feel the suit is frivolous and without merit.  Others seem to think there is a valid consumer protection issue involved.  



I await your thoughts.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 04, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Incidents like this make me believe that individuals like the plaintiff should be publicly whipped directly after filing their lawsuit.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 04, 2016, 04:07:18 PM
I'm with you on that, but a novice at this sort of thing. I do know that there are many varieties and variations of whips



Do you have any specific favorite in mind?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 04, 2016, 05:01:37 PM
I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 04, 2016, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2016, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: "Renee"Incidents like this make me believe that individuals like the plaintiff should be publicly whipped directly after filing their lawsuit.


I also think the judge should dismiss the case with prejudice, and kick the plaintiff's attorney down AT LEAST half a flight of stairs.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 04, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

Yes yes we all know Starbucks is shit but that doesn't give them the right to rip people off then kick them in the proverbial balls too.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 04, 2016, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

Yes yes we all know Starbucks is shit but that doesn't give them the right to rip people off then kick them in the proverbial balls too.


Please stop......In most cases people get ripped off because they are stupid. This situation is an example of that. Being stupid doesn't give you a right to complain.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on May 04, 2016, 07:59:22 PM
But where does one draw the line? Should I have sued the Japanese restaurant where I ordered Shrimp Noodles to find there were only 4 pieces of shrimp in it and the small kind too? This restaurant used to wow patrons and then it closed and fell into the hands of new owners. The new menu leaves a lot to be desired. The wow factor is gone. ac_beating
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2016, 09:15:22 PM
We were talking about this in the bunk house. :crazy:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 04, 2016, 10:14:04 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"But where does one draw the line? Should I have sued the Japanese restaurant where I ordered Shrimp Noodles to find there were only 4 pieces of shrimp in it and the small kind too? This restaurant used to wow patrons and then it closed and fell into the hands of new owners. The new menu leaves a lot to be desired. The wow factor is gone. ac_beating

Does it advertise tons of big, juicy shrimp in its noodles?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 04, 2016, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

Yes yes we all know Starbucks is shit but that doesn't give them the right to rip people off then kick them in the proverbial balls too.


Please stop......In most cases people get ripped off because they are stupid. This situation is an example of that. Being stupid doesn't give you a right to complain.

So it's okay to get ripped off and if you're stupid, you have no right to complain?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 04, 2016, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

Yes yes we all know Starbucks is shit but that doesn't give them the right to rip people off then kick them in the proverbial balls too.


Please stop......In most cases people get ripped off because they are stupid. This situation is an example of that. Being stupid doesn't give you a right to complain.

So it's okay to get ripped off and if you're stupid, you have no right to complain?


Okay, I will put it to you this way...how long are we, as a society, going to continue to cater to the lowest common denominator? How long are we going to allow stupid people to abuse the court system? If you get ripped off because you are stupid, do you think it should become someone else's problem or do you think you should have at least a modicum of personal responsibility?



This woman......no idiot, is seeking five....FIVE.....million in damages because she feels cheated that ice displaced some cup space in her shitty iced coffee. Does that sound like a valid reason for a 5 million dollar lawsuit to you? If you say yes, then you are part of the problem.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2016, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

That is how I see it too.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2016, 11:43:41 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


What bothers me about this is, Starbucks is not advertising or offering "24 ounces of coffee, iced."  They are offering "iced coffee in a 24 ounce cup," and not even promising the cup will be full (although a reasonable fullness is implied.)



Anyone who has ever drunk iced coffee knows already that to ice 24 ounces of coffee you are going to need ICE, a fair amount of it depending on the starting temperature of the coffee.  



If you go to (let's say) a Carl's Jr. and order a large Coke, you may or may not know that their cup size will be 40 ounces.  But you WILL surely know that the cup will be about half full of ice cubes when they start pumping Coke into it...so there will be room for only SO MUCH Coke, and it sure as hell won't be forty ounces of Coke you get.  Forty ounces of BEVERAGE, yes.  Carl's even tells you in the [size=85]fine print[/size] that this drink will have 330 calories, and in the [size=50]even finer print[/size] that your drink will contain approximately 1/3 ice by volume and the nutritional value is calculated based on that.  



However, if you need the fine print to tell you what you already know...that it works this same way in every fast food restaurant in the land, there COULD be something odd about your cognitive skills.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: The Donald on May 05, 2016, 12:41:43 AM
When I am president I will stop frivolous lawsuits.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 05, 2016, 12:52:57 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


What bothers me about this is, Starbucks is not advertising or offering "24 ounces of coffee, iced."  They are offering "iced coffee in a 24 ounce cup," and not even promising the cup will be full (although a reasonable fullness is implied.)



Anyone who has ever drunk iced coffee knows already that to ice 24 ounces of coffee you are going to need ICE, a fair amount of it depending on the starting temperature of the coffee.  



If you go to (let's say) a Carl's Jr. and order a large Coke, you may or may not know that their cup size will be 40 ounces.  But you WILL surely know that the cup will be about half full of ice cubes when they start pumping Coke into it...so there will be room for only SO MUCH Coke, and it sure as hell won't be forty ounces of Coke you get.  Forty ounces of BEVERAGE, yes.  Carl's even tells you in the [size=85]fine print[/size] that this drink will have 330 calories, and in the [size=50]even finer print[/size] that your drink will contain approximately 1/3 ice by volume and the nutritional value is calculated based on that.  



However, if you need the fine print to tell you what you already know...that it works this same way in every fast food restaurant in the land, there COULD be something odd about your cognitive skills.

Is that the case for Starbucks Iced Coffee?  Where is the fine print that says about half of it is going to be ice?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2016, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.


That kind of thinking is why you see warning labels on toilet brushes that read "Not for Personal Hygiene".

 :oeudC:



Truth is, anyone that buys shit from Starbucks is a moron. Their iced coffees and fagachinos are full of sugary corn syrup and artificial flavoring. Starbucks should just list their cup sizes as small, med, large, etc. That way dipshit bitches like the plaintiff can get their overdose of caffeine and corn syrup without ever knowing how close they are to contracting diabetes.



Worrying this badly about how much syrup laden crap gets displaced by some ice cubes, means you're a fucking sow.

I like their hot chocolate.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2016, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
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However, if you need the fine print to tell you what you already know...that it works this same way in every fast food restaurant in the land, there COULD be something odd about your cognitive skills.

Is that the case for Starbucks Iced Coffee?  Where is the fine print that says about half of it is going to be ice?


In the material you posted elsewhere, you can learn that a 16 oz (Grande) serving of black coffee will deliver 330 mg of caffeine, whereas a 16 oz serving of iced coffee will only deliver 165 mg of caffeine.  With a bit of soul searching, you can probably formulate a hypothesis as to why this would be so.



//http://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/7cd1d989cd0c4ddba75b22d53f7af8bc.pdf
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 05, 2016, 07:32:29 PM
Because it contains ice.  I understand the drink contains ice.  I'm sure the person filing the suit knows an iced coffee contains ice.  The issue is how much less coffee comes with the drink because of the ice (10fl.oz less) and if consumers knew that, would they still purchase the drink for the amount charged.



For example: "Peaches, you love iced coffee so I'm going to sell you one advertised as 24fl.oz but you're only going to get 14fl.oz of actual fluid for $5.00." Would you still buy that drink at that price knowing you're losing 10fl.oz to ice?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: keeper on May 05, 2016, 08:56:44 PM
I make my own ice coffee & iced tea. Yummy
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2016, 09:48:20 PM
Well, you have an odd semantic attachment to the idea that more coffee is needed.  The beverage I'd be buying is not coffee.  It's not even old stale coffee at room temperature, nor is it old coffee that's been chilled in the fridge.  If "coldness" were all that I wanted, I could easily do it that way.  



The fact is, to a coffee hound like me, the act of brewing the coffee wrests a lot of oils and bits of flavor from beans that have already been roasted to within an inch of their lives.  It takes a lot of brute force, sharp steel and heat to get a cup of coffee, and the "shelf life" of the brewed product is quite short.  Moreover, cooling that brew either by natural or artificial means does something unwholesome to it.  It no longer tastes fresh.



But pouring fresh hot coffee over ice (even though it does dilute the coffee) has the advantage of allowing you to drink the chilled coffee before the shelf life makes it taste stale.  It's a compromise.  For this reason, the ice simply doesn't trouble me.  It's part of the beverage, and necessary to it. And although this is a digression, there are at least two commonly known ways of making iced coffee (cold brewed and hot brewed) that yield a much stronger coffee so that the ice dilution is less noticeable.



However, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't pay Starbucks for iced coffee, nor any other kind, for reasons Renee already mentioned. But I would, and have, occasionally made iced coffee for myself.  



Here's a counter-question...what about iced tea?  Where is the LOLsuit over iced tea?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 05, 2016, 09:55:33 PM
The suit includes the iced teas.



Coffee making red herring aside, is it okay to "short" customers almost half a cup size of drink to ice without them knowing that's happening?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2016, 10:21:40 PM
I think the coffee making argument is relevant to the LOLsuit arguments, hence not a red herring.



As to "without them knowing," I think I'm with Renee on that.  Since you've mentioned being interested in the history and philosophy of law, I'll just mention that Caveat Emptor is a foundational common-law doctrine.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 05, 2016, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: "RW"The suit includes the iced teas.



Coffee making red herring aside, is it okay to "short" customers almost half a cup size of drink to ice without them knowing that's happening?


To answer your question.....yes it is.



Starbucks does not lie to the consumer; they do not hide the fact that ice is part of their ICED drinks. An educated consumer knows this and understands it. Once again we are back to how much personal responsibility is the consumer supposed to have when they make a decision to purchase Starbucks overpriced beverages. If it were up to you and people like you the consumer would be held blameless for the stupid decisions they make.



You and the piece of shit bringing the lawsuit are laboring under the idea that a 10 ounce cup holds 10 ounces of liquid and indeed it does IF there is nothing else other than liquid in said cup. But in this case, common sense dictates that ice, in an iced drink will displace a certain amount of liquid in the cup. You don't have to be a physics major to figure that out. All you need is an IQ somewhat higher than a white lab mouse.



As Starbucks has stated.....if the consumer is unhappy with their drink, they will happily rectify the situation. The consumer is perfectly within their rights to ask questions about the product before purchase and the consumer has every right to request less ice or NO ice at all.



This is a case of some lazy, stupid, cow who hasn't got the mental wherewithal to do her due diligence and become an educated consumer..........So what does she do?.........She does what every sleazy money grubbing scumbag does.....She runs to a bottom feeding attorney and files a frivolous lawsuit because she got short changed 2 dollars worth of fucking swill.



I can't believe you are taking the plaintiffs side on this. As previously stated, it's thinking like this that has created the litigious society we live in today. And frankly......it needs to end. Telling this Starbucks addict blow-pig to go shit in her hat would be a great start.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 05, 2016, 10:53:45 PM
All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 02:10:23 AM
QuoteYou and the piece of shit bringing the lawsuit are laboring under the idea that a 10 ounce cup holds 10 ounces of liquid and indeed it does IF there is nothing else other than liquid in said cup. But in this case, common sense dictates that ice, in an iced drink will displace a certain amount of liquid in the cup. You don't have to be a physics major to figure that out. All you need is an IQ somewhat higher than a white lab mouse.



I can't believe you are taking the plaintiffs side on this. As previously stated, it's thinking like this that has created the litigious society we live in today. And frankly......it needs to end. Telling this Starbucks addict blow-pig to go shit in her hat would be a great start.

This, exactly.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 02:13:55 AM
I agree about litigiousness.  Some countries have consumer protection agencies that can assess and enact changes where need be without the need for legal proceedings.  If Crow was here he could tell you all about how they work as I believe Australia has a pretty good system.



I believe we have consumer protection legislation but I can be arsed to go look it up.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 07:15:41 AM
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 06, 2016, 07:59:58 AM
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


The only thing that is entrenched here is the entrenched abuse of our legal system that has been steadily escalating for the last 40 years.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


The only thing that is entrenched here is the entrenched abuse of our legal system that has been steadily escalating for the last 40 years.

It is pretty silly..



It would never happen in Taiwan.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


The only thing that is entrenched here is the entrenched abuse of our legal system that has been steadily escalating for the last 40 years.

That is undeniable.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 11:37:13 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


The only thing that is entrenched here is the entrenched abuse of our legal system that has been steadily escalating for the last 40 years.

That is undeniable.


The reason I'm still in this conversation with you, RW, is because you do see this...despite what a more trollish person than I would describe as "your fondness for Nanny Goobermint."  It is the recent rise of Nanny Goobermint that is responsible for public acceptance of this sort of lawsuit as having merit, and this deplorable cultural shift is due largely to the rise of Nanny Goobermint itself.  It's been a cultural shift that has driven the escalating and continuing "abuses" of the legal system.



I hope we might have time to carry this further, but the pressures of the day are overwhelming me for now.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


The only thing that is entrenched here is the entrenched abuse of our legal system that has been steadily escalating for the last 40 years.

That is undeniable.


The reason I'm still in this conversation with you, RW, is because you do see this...despite what a more trollish person than I would describe as "your fondness for Nanny Goobermint."  It is the recent rise of Nanny Goobermint that is responsible for public acceptance of this sort of lawsuit as having merit, and this deplorable cultural shift is due largely to the rise of Nanny Goobermint itself.  It's been a cultural shift that has driven the escalating and continuing "abuses" of the legal system.



I hope we might have time to carry this further, but the pressures of the day are overwhelming me for now.

I'm sure this thread isn't going anywhere.



I don't see this as a nanny state issue at all so much as it's not legal to scam and rip people off, nor should it be.  What will be determined by the court is whether Starbucks is ripping people off or not.



I agree this shouldn't be a matter for the courts. I think it would be better handled by a consumer protection tribunal.  There are really no damages but a call for some kind of change.



Your court system is better left to putting weed smokers in jail for an obscene number of years.  :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 06, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?

I don't see that as a comparable.  I see it as you buy a 3 sq. ft. container but can only use 2 sq.ft or it because the rest has space taken up by fucking ice.



In the case of a coffee, I'm not buying a cup. I'm buying a DRINK. (Or not buying a drink as it were because Starbucks has gross, overpriced coffee.)
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 06, 2016, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?

I don't see that as a comparable.  I see it as you buy a 3 sq. ft. container but can only use 2 sq.ft or it because the rest has space taken up by fucking ice.



In the case of a coffee, I'm not buying a cup. I'm buying a DRINK. (Or not buying a drink as it were because Starbucks has gross, overpriced coffee.)


In reality you are buying a cup that holds 10 ounces of something. In this case it's liquid. But if you add additional displacement to the liquid, that cup no longer holds 10 ounces of liquid.  It's the same with a shipping container. The container may hold 3 square feet of something but what that something is may not be what you are shipping.



Unfortunately no where does Starbucks say you get 10 ounces of liquid UNLESS you specify how the cup is to be filled. What it lists and tells the consumer is cup size, 10, 16, 24 ounces etc. This is where the fast food practice of just giving you an empty cup in a size of your choosing has merit. That way you the consumer are completely responsible for how you fill it and this ridiculous argument is avoided.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.

Americans are so lucky to live in a country where the power and money of the state will be used against beverage retailers because someone buying a ten ounce iced drink did not know that part of the cup content included ice.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2016, 01:06:17 PM
I hope this stupid woman is sent a bill for any costs incurred after this is tossed out. Better yet, I hope it sends a message to other fools of her ilk.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?

I don't see that as a comparable.  I see it as you buy a 3 sq. ft. container but can only use 2 sq.ft or it because the rest has space taken up by fucking ice.



In the case of a coffee, I'm not buying a cup. I'm buying a DRINK. (Or not buying a drink as it were because Starbucks has gross, overpriced coffee.)


In reality you are buying a cup that holds 10 ounces of something. In this case it's liquid. But if you add additional displacement to the liquid, that cup no longer holds 10 ounces of liquid.  It's the same with a shipping container. The container may hold 3 square feet of something but what that something is may not be what you are shipping.



Unfortunately no where does Starbucks say you get 10 ounces of liquid UNLESS you specify how the cup is to be filled. What it lists and tells the consumer is cup size, 10, 16, 24 ounces etc. This is where the fast food practice of just giving you an empty cup in a size of your choosing has merit. That way you the consumer are completely responsible for how you fill it and this ridiculous argument is avoided.

That's not entirely true.  Starbucks states on it's website how much actual "drink" their cups hold.  It states things like "All suggestions based on a Tall serving (12 fl oz / 355 ml)."
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.

Americans are so lucky to live in a country where the power and money of the state will be used against beverage retailers because someone buying a ten ounce iced drink did not know that part of the cup content included ice.

 :laugh:

That's actually not what this case is about at all.  It's about a consumer being aware that almost half the "drink" is ice and if the consumer knew, would he/she still purchase said drink.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"I hope this stupid woman is sent a bill for any costs incurred after this is tossed out. Better yet, I hope it sends a message to other fools of her ilk.

She will have to pay legal fees unless they are on a contingency.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 06, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?

I don't see that as a comparable.  I see it as you buy a 3 sq. ft. container but can only use 2 sq.ft or it because the rest has space taken up by fucking ice.



In the case of a coffee, I'm not buying a cup. I'm buying a DRINK. (Or not buying a drink as it were because Starbucks has gross, overpriced coffee.)


In reality you are buying a cup that holds 10 ounces of something. In this case it's liquid. But if you add additional displacement to the liquid, that cup no longer holds 10 ounces of liquid.  It's the same with a shipping container. The container may hold 3 square feet of something but what that something is may not be what you are shipping.



Unfortunately no where does Starbucks say you get 10 ounces of liquid UNLESS you specify how the cup is to be filled. What it lists and tells the consumer is cup size, 10, 16, 24 ounces etc. This is where the fast food practice of just giving you an empty cup in a size of your choosing has merit. That way you the consumer are completely responsible for how you fill it and this ridiculous argument is avoided.

That's not entirely true.  Starbucks states on it's website how much actual "drink" their cups hold.  It states things like "All suggestions based on a Tall serving (12 fl oz / 355 ml)."


That's exactly right. They are serving you a cup that holds a specific amount of liquid, and it is perfectly capable of doing so. BUT, you as an educated consumer and a intelligent person has to recognize that in this case, ice displaces some of that liquid. That's just common sense.



Unfortunately the cost of doing business in the US has gotten to the point where you the business owner, needs to include the cost of doing business with dopes. mongos and greedy scumbags who look for any reason to exploit your business practices for their own gain.



We can argue this until we both drop but it doesn't change the fact that this lawsuit is an example of what is wrong with our civil court system.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"All I'm doing is presenting the other side of the legal coin for the purposes of discussion.  There is a legal principle at play here which is entrenched in consumer protection.


Please put this legal principle into words, if you will.



It troubles me to hear people speak of anything that is "entrenched" in consumer protection, because consumer protection is quite a new addition to jurisprudence and very little of consumer protection is really what I consider settled law.



Why not?  Because we are playing here in the valley between Roman law and English law, or if you prefer...civil law vs. common law.  Slippery slopes abound.

Slippery slope my ass.  Truth has been a foundation in law for ages and the basis of consumer protection beyond dealing with contractual issues, is deception.  Business cannot deceive people for gain.  The legal question is whether or not Starbucks is deceiving customers using excessive ice in drinks to provide less drinkable product without disclosing this fact.



As I said, in other countries, Canada included, there are channels other than the lawsuits to investigate these issues.

I highly doubt ten ounce cups holding some ice instead of ten ounces of liquid was what consumer protection legislation had in mind.

I think it did actually.  It's meant to protect from practises that mislead the consumer.  If that comes in the form of ice, so be it.


Okay, let's look at it this way....if you purchase a shipping container (cardboard box) etc. Let's say that box is a box that hold 3 square feet of shit. BUT you are shipping something that only takes up 2 square feet the other space gets taken up by packing material.....



Did you get ripped off when you bought the 3 square foot box?

I don't see that as a comparable.  I see it as you buy a 3 sq. ft. container but can only use 2 sq.ft or it because the rest has space taken up by fucking ice.



In the case of a coffee, I'm not buying a cup. I'm buying a DRINK. (Or not buying a drink as it were because Starbucks has gross, overpriced coffee.)


In reality you are buying a cup that holds 10 ounces of something. In this case it's liquid. But if you add additional displacement to the liquid, that cup no longer holds 10 ounces of liquid.  It's the same with a shipping container. The container may hold 3 square feet of something but what that something is may not be what you are shipping.



Unfortunately no where does Starbucks say you get 10 ounces of liquid UNLESS you specify how the cup is to be filled. What it lists and tells the consumer is cup size, 10, 16, 24 ounces etc. This is where the fast food practice of just giving you an empty cup in a size of your choosing has merit. That way you the consumer are completely responsible for how you fill it and this ridiculous argument is avoided.

That's not entirely true.  Starbucks states on it's website how much actual "drink" their cups hold.  It states things like "All suggestions based on a Tall serving (12 fl oz / 355 ml)."


That's exactly right. They are serving you a cup that holds a specific amount of liquid, and it is perfectly capable of doing so. BUT, you as an educated consumer and a intelligent person has to recognize that in this case, ice displaces some of that liquid. That's just common sense.



Unfortunately the cost of doing business in the US has gotten to the point where you the business owner, needs to include the cost of doing business with dopes. mongos and greedy scumbags who look for any reason to exploit your business practices for their own gain.



We can argue this until we both drop but it doesn't change the fact that this lawsuit is an example of what is wrong with our civil court system.

Yes, ice displaces SOME of that liquid.  Should that SOME amount to damn near half or is that called being ripped off?



If I were Starbucks, I wouldn't pay a penny but I would consider making my iced coffee cups bigger to account for ice displacement so people don't feel ripped off.  I mean, they are already being ripped off in the sense that coffee has an obscene markup but let's not add insult to injury by putting it on an entire cup full of ice.



I do agree that this shouldn't be a lawsuit either.  There should be a consumer protection branch to deal with this because businesses should not be allowed to fuck people over.  Consumerism is a HUGE part of the economy and it's driven by people feeling they aren't being ripped off at every turn.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: keeper on May 06, 2016, 03:35:34 PM
Maybe this lady needs to talk to that snippy bitch at Tim Hortons you deal with.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 06, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: "Keeper"Maybe this lady needs to talk to that snippy bitch at Tim Hortons you deal with.

Nobody wants to talk to that biatch!
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2016, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: "Renee"That's exactly right. They are serving you a cup that holds a specific amount of liquid, and it is perfectly capable of doing so. BUT, you as an educated consumer and a intelligent person has to recognize that in this case, ice displaces some of that liquid. That's just common sense.



Unfortunately the cost of doing business in the US has gotten to the point where you the business owner, needs to include the cost of doing business with dopes. mongos and greedy scumbags who look for any reason to exploit your business practices for their own gain.



We can argue this until we both drop but it doesn't change the fact that this lawsuit is an example of what is wrong with our civil court system.

Aside from the tragedy in North East Alberta this has been the most talked about current event at work..



What you have written is exactly how we all feel about this silly lawsuit.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2016, 10:58:19 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"That's exactly right. They are serving you a cup that holds a specific amount of liquid, and it is perfectly capable of doing so. BUT, you as an educated consumer and a intelligent person has to recognize that in this case, ice displaces some of that liquid. That's just common sense.



Unfortunately the cost of doing business in the US has gotten to the point where you the business owner, needs to include the cost of doing business with dopes. mongos and greedy scumbags who look for any reason to exploit your business practices for their own gain.



We can argue this until we both drop but it doesn't change the fact that this lawsuit is an example of what is wrong with our civil court system.

Aside from the tragedy in North East Alberta this has been the most talked about current event at work..



What you have written is exactly how we all feel about this silly lawsuit.

It's ridiculous, what else can be said.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2016, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"That's exactly right. They are serving you a cup that holds a specific amount of liquid, and it is perfectly capable of doing so. BUT, you as an educated consumer and a intelligent person has to recognize that in this case, ice displaces some of that liquid. That's just common sense.



Unfortunately the cost of doing business in the US has gotten to the point where you the business owner, needs to include the cost of doing business with dopes. mongos and greedy scumbags who look for any reason to exploit your business practices for their own gain.



We can argue this until we both drop but it doesn't change the fact that this lawsuit is an example of what is wrong with our civil court system.

Aside from the tragedy in North East Alberta this has been the most talked about current event at work..



What you have written is exactly how we all feel about this silly lawsuit.

It's ridiculous, what else can be said.


You're all right I suppose.  But I seem to be gut-hooked on RW's troll and determined to break it.  That's probably pretty stupid on my part.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 07, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
This reminds me a lot of the McDonald's coffee case where everyone had an opinion on it but no one understood the (legal) specifics of the case itself.



I guess unlike everyone else, I'm interested to see how the COURTS interpret consumer protections re: false advertising.



I also don't appreciate being called a troll because I acknowledge the legal principles at play in a case.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: "RW"This reminds me a lot of the McDonald's coffee case where everyone had an opinion on it but no one understood the (legal) specifics of the case itself.



I guess unlike everyone else, I'm interested to see how the COURTS interpret consumer protections re: false advertising.



I also don't appreciate being called a troll because I acknowledge the legal principles at play in a case.


I used the term because I previously asked you to enunciate what "legal principles" were at play in this case, but if you did I evidently missed your answer.



I'm not "bear trapping" you.   Although I've had a few courses that were law-related, I never went to law school nor worked in the field.  Still, I'm not seeing any merit to the claim of false advertising here and I'm prepared to go on at some length about that.



Also, in Liebeck v McDonald's there was actually some merit to the case.  However, the reason for the big ass jury verdict wasn't really about the merits...it was about McD's being a bunch of dicks and not agreeing to a fair settlement, which forced the matter into court where they thought they had more lawyers and would prevail.  That's not a matter of truth or legal principles, it's a matter of too many MBA graduates running corporations.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: easter bunny on May 07, 2016, 05:53:26 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.

Without reading the whole thread I would have to agree. I've had it happen to me lots of times. You order a drink and get a cup of crushed ice with a few drops of liquid in it. Then to add insult to injury it's weak and flat (no carbonation). With no standards every franchise owner can do what he or she wants, and some of them clearly just want to screw people. I'm not sure what the solution is. Maybe self-serve? Anyway, having said that, it ain't worth $100 million or whatever it is they're asking for, and it's not fair to punish everyone for the misdeeds of a few.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 07, 2016, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: "RW"This reminds me a lot of the McDonald's coffee case where everyone had an opinion on it but no one understood the (legal) specifics of the case itself.



I guess unlike everyone else, I'm interested to see how the COURTS interpret consumer protections re: false advertising.



I also don't appreciate being called a troll because I acknowledge the legal principles at play in a case.


The McDonald's case was very different. The plaintiff sustained injury due to McDonald's unsafe practice of keeping their coffee at near boiling temperature levels.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: "easter bunny"
Quote from: "RW"I think there is a legitimate complaint here.  I think people should know what they are buying and if their coffee comes in 10 fl.oz less than what is advertised, they should be made aware of this so they can make the appropriate decisions when making purchases.

Without reading the whole thread I would have to agree. I've had it happen to me lots of times. You order a drink and get a cup of crushed ice with a few drops of liquid in it. Then to add insult to injury it's weak and flat (no carbonation). With no standards every franchise owner can do what he or she wants, and some of them clearly just want to screw people. I'm not sure what the solution is. Maybe self-serve? Anyway, having said that, it ain't worth $100 million or whatever it is they're asking for, and it's not fair to punish everyone for the misdeeds of a few.

A ten ounce iced drink that has ice in it bunny. That is what this lawsuit is about.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 08, 2016, 12:59:21 AM
If the drink is already cold, why do they need an entire cup of ice to go with it?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 01:03:33 AM
Quote from: "RW"If the drink is already cold, why do they need an entire cup of ice to go with it?

There are ice free drink at Starbucks. They are called coffee and tea.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 08:49:05 AM
I am a consumer and I support legislation that protects me from dishonest retailing practices. But, I do not see an iced drink having ice in it as scamming the public. I think most thinking people know ice will be part of the cup's content.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 08:58:28 AM
Quote from: "RW"If the drink is already cold, why do they need an entire cup of ice to go with it?


**IS** the drink already cold?  I missed that.



They say in their consumer info materials that the iced coffee drinks are approximately 1/3 ice by volume.  Doesn't seem very deceptive to me.



Try this experiment.  



Boil some water and pour it (at a temp of 180+ degrees) over some ice cubes.  See if you can figure out how many ice cubes it will take to get the water down to 50 degrees, or preferably a bit less, and still have enough ice cubes left to keep the drink cold for at least half an hour.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 08, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"If the drink is already cold, why do they need an entire cup of ice to go with it?


**IS** the drink already cold?  I missed that.



They say in their consumer info materials that the iced coffee drinks are approximately 1/3 ice by volume.  Doesn't seem very deceptive to me.



Try this experiment.  



Boil some water and pour it (at a temp of 180+ degrees) over some ice cubes.  See if you can figure out how many ice cubes it will take to get the water down to 50 degrees, or preferably a bit less, and still have enough ice cubes left to keep the drink cold for at least half an hour.

Yes, the iced coffee mix is already cold.  They don't pour hot coffee over ice.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: easter bunny on May 08, 2016, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: "RW"Yes, the iced coffee mix is already cold.  They don't pour hot coffee over ice.

Man am I glad to hear that.  ac_unsure
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 11:16:09 PM
Let's not make something straightforward complicated. An iced drink's cup contained ice. A multi-million dollar lawsuit was launched.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 08, 2016, 11:47:53 PM
Quote from: "Herman"Let's not make something straightforward complicated. An iced drink's cup contained ice. A multi-million dollar lawsuit was launched.

Again, the issue isn't if it contains ice or not but how much ice it contains and if the amount of ice constitutes false advertising a DRINK and if it is in turn ripping people off.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2016, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"Let's not make something straightforward complicated. An iced drink's cup contained ice. A multi-million dollar lawsuit was launched.

Again, the issue isn't if it contains ice or not but how much ice it contains and if the amount of ice constitutes false advertising a DRINK and if it is in turn ripping people off.

Sure, sure, I am going to sue A&W because the milkshake the wife had contained too much milk. :laugh3:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 09, 2016, 01:19:10 AM
Like this case, I don't think you'll get very far.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on May 09, 2016, 09:44:16 AM
There's no doubt that this is a frivolous lawsuit along the lines of the Subway suit that criticized them for not actually selling footlong subs... however, there are unwritten expectations when you buy a product in a first world country that wouldn't automatically be defended by law.



The only reason I'm going to sort of agree with Renee's opinion on this one is because Starbucks has a widely understood policy of making the customer another drink if they feel like the one they bought is less than satisfactory. A lot of large chain restaurants have a customer satisfaction policy, and despite the grounds for this class action lawsuit they probably aren't going out of their way to giv e you more ice than necessary.



I've worked at a restaurant, and I've seen both sides of this, glasses designed to hold less liquid than it appears and customers complain about not having enough ice in their drink. Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: "shin"There's no doubt that this is a frivolous lawsuit along the lines of the Subway suit that criticized them for not actually selling footlong subs... however, there are unwritten expectations when you buy a product in a first world country that wouldn't automatically be defended by law.



The only reason I'm going to sort of agree with Renee's opinion on this one is because Starbucks has a widely understood policy of making the customer another drink if they feel like the one they bought is less than satisfactory. A lot of large chain restaurants have a customer satisfaction policy, and despite the grounds for this class action lawsuit they probably aren't going out of their way to giv e you more ice than necessary.



I've worked at a restaurant, and I've seen both sides of this, glasses designed to hold less liquid than it appears and customers complain about not having enough ice in their drink. Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.

Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are their subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: ELPHUPPHY on May 09, 2016, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "shin"There's no doubt that this is a frivolous lawsuit along the lines of the Subway suit that criticized them for not actually selling footlong subs... however, there are unwritten expectations when you buy a product in a first world country that wouldn't automatically be defended by law.



The only reason I'm going to sort of agree with Renee's opinion on this one is because Starbucks has a widely understood policy of making the customer another drink if they feel like the one they bought is less than satisfactory. A lot of large chain restaurants have a customer satisfaction policy, and despite the grounds for this class action lawsuit they probably aren't going out of their way to giv e you more ice than necessary.



I've worked at a restaurant, and I've seen both sides of this, glasses designed to hold less liquid than it appears and customers complain about not having enough ice in their drink. Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.

Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are there subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?


Cold subs are always a good 2 inches shorter than warm subs.





Shrinkage, ya know  :yahoo:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are their subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?


The parties settled.  



Part of the problem was that Subway provides frozen sandwich rolls to its franchisees, and they are supposed to thaw and stretch before baking.  Due to quality control issues it is possible to get a baked roll that is less than 12 inches long, but still has the same amount of ingredients.



Subway agreed to institute new quality control procedures and provide all licensees with a "measuring device."  In addition, they paid the legal costs and gave each of the ten plaintiffs $500.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are their subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?


The parties settled.  



Part of the problem was that Subway provides frozen sandwich rolls to its franchisees, and they are supposed to thaw and stretch before baking.  Due to quality control issues it is possible to get a baked roll that is less than 12 inches long, but still has the same amount of ingredients.



Subway agreed to institute new quality control procedures and provide all licensees with a "measuring device."  In addition, they paid the legal costs and gave each of the ten plaintiffs $500.

Thanks, I did not know that..



We used to know someone that owned two Subway franchises too.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "shin"There's no doubt that this is a frivolous lawsuit along the lines of the Subway suit that criticized them for not actually selling footlong subs... however, there are unwritten expectations when you buy a product in a first world country that wouldn't automatically be defended by law.



The only reason I'm going to sort of agree with Renee's opinion on this one is because Starbucks has a widely understood policy of making the customer another drink if they feel like the one they bought is less than satisfactory. A lot of large chain restaurants have a customer satisfaction policy, and despite the grounds for this class action lawsuit they probably aren't going out of their way to giv e you more ice than necessary.



I've worked at a restaurant, and I've seen both sides of this, glasses designed to hold less liquid than it appears and customers complain about not having enough ice in their drink. Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.

Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are there subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?


Cold subs are always a good 2 inches shorter than warm subs.





Shrinkage, ya know  :yahoo:

 ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 09, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
Wasn't there a suit of some type already around ice in drinks?  Companies filling cups too full of ice or charging extra for no ice.  I'm going to have to dig that up.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 09, 2016, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "shin"There's no doubt that this is a frivolous lawsuit along the lines of the Subway suit that criticized them for not actually selling footlong subs... however, there are unwritten expectations when you buy a product in a first world country that wouldn't automatically be defended by law.



The only reason I'm going to sort of agree with Renee's opinion on this one is because Starbucks has a widely understood policy of making the customer another drink if they feel like the one they bought is less than satisfactory. A lot of large chain restaurants have a customer satisfaction policy, and despite the grounds for this class action lawsuit they probably aren't going out of their way to giv e you more ice than necessary.



I've worked at a restaurant, and I've seen both sides of this, glasses designed to hold less liquid than it appears and customers complain about not having enough ice in their drink. Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.

Whatever happened with the footlong Subway suit?



Are there subs now a footlong or are they still eleven inches?


Cold subs are always a good 2 inches shorter than warm subs.





Shrinkage, ya know  :yahoo:

Now that's funny!  Hahaha!
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: "shin"[size=200]Though you can never please everybody, we are being conditioned to be greedier than generations of the past.[/size]




Exactamente.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 09, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Really?  Is consumers are being greedier?  Everywhere you go now things cost more for less.  Everything has gone up in price in the name of profit.  Starbucks makes boat loads of cash and still has to fill its cups full of ice to fuck over consumers.



WE aren't the greedy ones.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
I'd never suppose that greed is the exclusive failing of consumers OR producers.



This seems as good a place as any to quote John Ruskin.



"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey."
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2016, 01:57:07 AM
Abe Lincoln-"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses."
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 10, 2016, 05:18:17 AM
Quote from: "Herman"Abe Lincoln-"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses."

Translation: We can complain that huge profitable corps rip us off constantly or we can STFU and take it in the ass like a good little consumer.



 ac_sothere
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 10, 2016, 06:57:03 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"Abe Lincoln-"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses."

Translation: We can complain that huge profitable corps rip us off constantly or we can STFU and take it in the ass like a good little consumer.



 ac_sothere


"Take it in the ass" ac_umm



In this case there is no need to "take it in the ass"........ And for whatever reason, you are choosing to ignore that fact, even after it has been explained to you several times.



Sorry but this discussion has lived well beyond what should have been its natural lifespan. Time to put it to bed and accept that you are wrong....   :001_tongue:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2016, 09:06:53 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"Abe Lincoln-"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses."

Translation: We can complain that huge profitable corps rip us off constantly or we can STFU and take it in the ass like a good little consumer.



 ac_sothere


"Take it in the ass" ac_umm



In this case there is no need to "take it in the ass"........ And for whatever reason, you are choosing to ignore that fact, even after it has been explained to you several times.



Sorry but this discussion has lived well beyond what should have been its natural lifespan. Time to put it to bed and accept that you are wrong....   :001_tongue:

I totally agree with you Renee..



It has been explained several times..



The only people that really seem to be "taking it is" the taxpayer..



And yes it is time to put this to bed.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2016, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Herman"Abe Lincoln-"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses."

Translation: We can complain that huge profitable corps rip us off constantly or we can STFU and take it in the ass like a good little consumer.



 ac_sothere


"Take it in the ass" ac_umm



In this case there is no need to "take it in the ass"........ And for whatever reason, you are choosing to ignore that fact, even after it has been explained to you several times.



Sorry but this discussion has lived well beyond what should have been its natural lifespan. Time to put it to bed and accept that you are wrong....   :001_tongue:

Amen
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 10, 2016, 11:06:36 AM
Thanks for the shut down.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 10, 2016, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: "RW"Thanks for the shut down.


Sorry but someone had to say it.



There are literally hundreds of worthy consumer protection causes to champion......this was not one of them. :laugh3:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Blurt on May 10, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
Five pages "on the rocks."



Y'all need to have yourselves a cup of chamomile tea.



A simple experiment: buy a Starbucks iced coffee in a 16 oz cup, let the ice further chill the coffee for a minute or so, ask for an empty 16 oz cup, pour the liquid contents of your iced coffee into the second cup, measure the contents, and then ask yourself if the head honchos at Starbucks really believe they can get away with charging $5 for what you're left with.



Or, you could go to the pub three doors down and have a pint of Espresso Stout for a dollar more.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2016, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"Thanks for the shut down.


Sorry but someone had to say it.



There are literally hundreds of worthy consumer protection causes to champion......this was not one of them. :laugh3:

It sure isn't..



It's what I heard referred to as a first world problem..



The radio station I listen to on my commute to work has many like this.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: priscilla1961 on May 13, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
I like the Second Cup.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on May 16, 2016, 08:44:25 AM
One last thing before we set this one to bed...



Starbucks has (or had, not sure after people started doing what you'll see below) a rewards program where you could get a free drink after buying so many other drinks. On their gold level, I assumed they had a stipulation that you could have any kind of drink you wanted that would fit in a cup.



2 years ago, someone ordered a drink with 60 espresso shots, and idn't have to pay for it.



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The year before, someone ordered a 40 shot drink.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/28/biggest-starbucks-drink_n_5406309.html



The reason I came back to post this was because of a small debate that started in this thread about greedy comsumers vs. greedy corporations. Sure, all businesses are out to make money, but I think not all of them are as greedy as the worst of them... cough cough Comcast... cough cough.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 08:47:14 AM
A 60 shot espresso? :shock:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: "shin"One last thing before we set this one to bed...




Just one more...please.



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Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "shin"One last thing before we set this one to bed...




Just one more...please.



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Cats get it, but people do not. :laugh:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 16, 2016, 02:26:34 PM
If he got it from Starbucks, it would be a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 16, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "shin"One last thing before we set this one to bed...




Just one more...please.



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Cats get it, but people do not. :laugh:


Only some people. :sneaky2:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 16, 2016, 02:54:30 PM
Some people get it but don't think it's right.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 16, 2016, 03:26:52 PM
Who revived this shit thread? :madgirl:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 16, 2016, 04:17:01 PM
I was rather enjoying this thread until the shut downs.



Psssssst....this is a DISCUSSION forum.  It works better when people DISCUSS things.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 16, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: "RW"I was rather enjoying this thread until the shut downs.



Psssssst....this is a DISCUSSION forum.  It works better when people DISCUSS things.


Really....are you shitting me?



The only thing is though....it only works when the topic is worth discussing.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 16, 2016, 07:05:31 PM
Eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 08:13:53 PM
Quote from: "RW"If he got it from Starbucks, it would be a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.

That's not what I get when I go to Starbucks.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 16, 2016, 09:45:26 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"If he got it from Starbucks, it would be a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.

That's not what I get when I go to Starbucks.

I would hope you'd have more sense than to be ripped off by buying an iced coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 10:26:46 PM
How would I be getting ripped off?



I am aware of the contents of the drinks I purchase..



And with Starbucks, they will make you another if you are not satisfied.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: kiebers on May 16, 2016, 10:31:03 PM
Start freezing coffee to use as the ice. Increase the price to pay for it. And away we go...
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"Start freezing coffee to use as the ice. Increase the price to pay for it. And away we go...

Or if you do not like your drink ask them to make you another.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: kiebers on May 16, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
Would be cool to go to a place and tell them to use the 32 oz cup but charge the 16oz price, not realistic but cool.



Doesn't really matter to me. Not a good lawsuit.

Not a Starbucks customer. Can't see paying that kind of money. I can make a pot of coffee here at home for 60 cents. If I want a special blend it may go to 75-80 cents. I can almost make 5 pots for the price of their cheapest, and 8 pots with their most expensive. I have no idea how the prices north of the border compare.

The wife and I were doing some price comparisons to what they buy at work in the little packets as opposed to the large canister. Large canister very cheap compared to the packets. That's why I knew the prices...LOL
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"Would be cool to go to a place and tell them to use the 32 oz cup but charge the 16oz price, not realistic but cool.



Doesn't really matter to me. Not a good lawsuit.

Not a Starbucks customer. Can't see paying that kind of money. I can make a pot of coffee here at home for 60 cents. If I want a special blend it may go to 75-80 cents. I can almost make 5 pots for the price of their cheapest, and 8 pots with their most expensive. I have no idea how the prices north of the border compare.

The wife and I were doing some price comparisons to what they buy at work in the little packets as opposed to the large canister. Large canister very cheap compared to the packets. That's why I knew the prices...LOL

I understand everything you said kiebers..



Sometimes I like to meet my girlfriends at coffee shops like Starbucks..



They are nice places to relax and talk.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 17, 2016, 01:38:11 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"How would I be getting ripped off?



I am aware of the contents of the drinks I purchase..



And with Starbucks, they will make you another if you are not satisfied.

You're paying over $5 for a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 07:01:21 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"How would I be getting ripped off?



I am aware of the contents of the drinks I purchase..



And with Starbucks, they will make you another if you are not satisfied.

You're paying over $5 for a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.


Not to beat this dead horse again, but you're paying over five bucks for the privilege (dubious or not) of meeting your pals at Starbuck's to sit and visit and sip on something of your own choosing.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 08:52:23 AM
Amazing this thread went 6 pages. Does anyone really care? Last time I was at Starbucks was at the Houston airport. A bunch of people lined up buying the weird coffee drinks and swiping their credit cards. Is this a N. American ritual? Everyone tells me Peets is a lot better. i like coffee with a shot of Remey Martin
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"How would I be getting ripped off?



I am aware of the contents of the drinks I purchase..



And with Starbucks, they will make you another if you are not satisfied.

You're paying over $5 for a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.


Not to beat this dead horse again, but you're paying over five bucks for the privilege (dubious or not) of meeting your pals at Starbuck's to sit and visit and sip on something of your own choosing.

Of course Peaches..



I could go to Tim Horton's, pay less  and sit at their uncomfortable tables, but it would be a short visit with my friends..



Cheaper yet would be to go to 7-11, buy cheap drinks and sit in the parking lot with my friends while fending off panhandlers..



You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:40:58 AM
A Starbuck's dark roast is about 70 cents more than Tim Horton's. If they are side by side, I am going to Starbuck's because it tastes better. If my little family owned Italian cafe and bakery is within 5 km, I am going to that. It charges more than Starbuck's again, but I don't care. To me it is worth it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 12:21:29 PM
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Correcto. Good post.  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.

Since everyone has different tastebuds, I would not put much stock in that..



Some people like strong coffee, some like weak coffee and some like dark and some like medium roasts..



If someone has a different opinion than the majority they don't care about taste tests Consumer Reports conducted.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Blurt on May 17, 2016, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: "RW"Psssssst....this is a DISCUSSION forum.  It works better when people DISCUSS things.

That's debatable.



 ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 17, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"
Quote from: "RW"Psssssst....this is a DISCUSSION forum.  It works better when people DISCUSS things.

That's debatable.



 ac_biggrin

Oh hush you!



Hahaha
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.

Since everyone has different tastebuds, I would not put much stock in that..



Some people like strong coffee, some like weak coffee and some like dark and some like medium roasts..



If someone has a different opinion than the majority they don't care about taste tests Consumer Reports conducted.


Bullshit, taste is taste. It either taste like good coffee or it doesn't. I would argue that nobody really likes dishwater coffee and the majority of people don't like very strong burnt tasting coffee either.



I would even go so far to say about half the people or more who frequent Starbucks don't really like the coffee....they just like being seen with a cup that has the Starbucks logo on it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:47:08 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"How would I be getting ripped off?



I am aware of the contents of the drinks I purchase..



And with Starbucks, they will make you another if you are not satisfied.

You're paying over $5 for a cup of ice with a splash of coffee.


Not to beat this dead horse again, but you're paying over five bucks for the privilege (dubious or not) of meeting your pals at Starbuck's to sit and visit and sip on something of your own choosing.

Of course Peaches..



I could go to Tim Horton's, pay less  and sit at their uncomfortable tables, but it would be a short visit with my friends..



Cheaper yet would be to go to 7-11, buy cheap drinks and sit in the parking lot with my friends while fending off panhandlers..



You get what you pay for.

That's no different than some upscale bars that charge more for bottles of beer and certain drinks. At my age, I do not give a damn about that. I like local pubs and sports bars.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on May 18, 2016, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.


I agree with Bro... nothing Dunkin' Donuts sells isn't artificial and chemical laden.



I had coffee from McDonald's yesterday, actually. I usually get the normal brewed stufff, but I decided to get an iced caramel lette type drink instead... big mistake! It tasted a lot like it was made with instant Folgers.



People go to Starbucks for strong coffee and specialty drinks with coffee that you can't taste over the sugar. I don't know anyone who cares about taking pictures of their drinks here because we have dozens of them in the city.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.


I agree with Bro... nothing Dunkin' Donuts sells isn't artificial and chemical laden.



I had coffee from McDonald's yesterday, actually. I usually get the normal brewed stufff, but I decided to get an iced caramel lette type drink instead... big mistake! It tasted a lot like it was made with instant Folgers.



People go to Starbucks for strong coffee and specialty drinks with coffee that you can't taste over the sugar. I don't know anyone who cares about taking pictures of their drinks here because we have dozens of them in the city.


There is a difference between strong coffee and BURNT coffee. Starbucks doesn't know the difference just like the majority of their pin-headed millennial patrons.



Buy the beans from Dunkin Donuts and grind them yourself. They make a very even, smooth, cup of coffee.



BTW, the reason people drink those sugar and syrup fill drinks at Starbuck's is because the coffee tastes like burnt ass. If you don't mask the taste of that roofing tar crap you can't drink it. For the kind of money Starbuck's charges, the shit they serve should taste like liquid gold and not like cat piss poured out of an ashtray.



 IMHO, the least of the issues with any Starbuck's product is the amount of ice they stick in their fagachinos.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 10:45:02 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.

Since everyone has different tastebuds, I would not put much stock in that..



Some people like strong coffee, some like weak coffee and some like dark and some like medium roasts..



If someone has a different opinion than the majority they don't care about taste tests Consumer Reports conducted.


Bullshit, taste is taste. It either taste like good coffee or it doesn't. I would argue that nobody really likes dishwater coffee and the majority of people don't like very strong burnt tasting coffee either.



I would even go so far to say about half the people or more who frequent Starbucks don't really like the coffee....they just like being seen with a cup that has the Starbucks logo on it.

That's an opinion Renee..



My husband likes their dark roast along with Second Cup better than Tim Hortons.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.

Since everyone has different tastebuds, I would not put much stock in that..



Some people like strong coffee, some like weak coffee and some like dark and some like medium roasts..



If someone has a different opinion than the majority they don't care about taste tests Consumer Reports conducted.


Bullshit, taste is taste. It either taste like good coffee or it doesn't. I would argue that nobody really likes dishwater coffee and the majority of people don't like very strong burnt tasting coffee either.



I would even go so far to say about half the people or more who frequent Starbucks don't really like the coffee....they just like being seen with a cup that has the Starbucks logo on it.

That's an opinion Renee..



My husband likes their dark roast along with Second Cup better than Tim Hortons.


I hate to break the news to you people but Starbucks Coffee is crap. They claim to use Arabica beans exclusively but judging but the caffeine level their coffee has, I have my doubts.



Coffee comes in two varieties, Arabica and Robusta. Robusta beans are less expensive, taste shitty and are much higher in caffeine. They are also darker in color. The reason Starbucks Coffee tastes burnt is because it is. They use a mixture of Arabica and Robusta and roast the beans until they are black or very dark brown.....why.....because burnt beans all taste the same....burnt. When you dark roast coffee beans to the point that Starbucks does you lose all the subtle coffee flavors that good cup of coffee is supposed to have, no matter what kind of beans you use. You are left with nothing but nasty burnt tasting coffee which many people describe as ashy.



I know people's tastes vary but you will never be able to convince me that more than a handful of coffee drinkers enjoy ashy tasting coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 11:21:07 AM
My husband is Dutch and he likes strong coffee..



He prefers Starbucks dark roast over it's competitors..



I have co workers that prefer it too..



We get take ten from Tim Hortons in the office though because Starbucks doesn't have anything like that.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 11:38:57 AM
I like my caffeine in the morning and Starbucks gives me my fix.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"My husband is Dutch and he likes strong coffee..



He prefers Starbucks dark roast over it's competitors..



I have co workers that prefer it too..



We get take ten from Tim Hortons in the office though because Starbucks doesn't have anything like that.


Again, there is a huge difference between "strong" and "burnt" coffee. Any coffee can be made strong simply by increasing the ratio of coffee to water.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My husband is Dutch and he likes strong coffee..



He prefers Starbucks dark roast over it's competitors..



I have co workers that prefer it too..



We get take ten from Tim Hortons in the office though because Starbucks doesn't have anything like that.


Again, there is a huge difference between "strong" and "burnt" coffee. Any coffee can be made strong simply by increasing the ratio of coffee to water.

Okay,  will tell my husbad and my co workers they are wrong for liking Starbucks coffee.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"My husband is Dutch and he likes strong coffee..



He prefers Starbucks dark roast over it's competitors..



I have co workers that prefer it too..



We get take ten from Tim Hortons in the office though because Starbucks doesn't have anything like that.


Again, there is a huge difference between "strong" and "burnt" coffee. Any coffee can be made strong simply by increasing the ratio of coffee to water.

Okay,  will tell my husbad and my co workers they are wrong for liking Starbucks coffee.

 :laugh:


Tell them whatever you like. It's not going to change the fact that Starbucks roasts their beans until they are just shy of going up in flames. :laugh3:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 01:20:56 PM
A read a taste test of Canadians in the Globe and Mail and the reviews of Tim Horton's, Starbucks, Wendy's and McDonald's were all unfavourable..



But they all have their regulars who swear by their coffees..



Sour, uncleaned coffee makers, weak, were some of the things said about Starbucks competitors..



People's tastebuds vary on coffee..



You would probably not like the coffee in Asia.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2016, 12:52:15 AM
You can only get a so so cup of coffee within a hundred kms of my farm. The best coffee is what we make at home. Probably pales in comparison though to what ceec and her old man make in their espresso machine.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 19, 2016, 01:52:56 AM
It's a known fact Starbucks beans are bottom of the barrel.



I also find their coffee to be the shits.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2016, 02:00:05 AM
We have bought bold espresso roast and Sulawesi bold for the house that were pretty good. But no better than Nabob espresso or West Coast dark.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 19, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
A coffee that has always been a favorite of mine is Gevalia. Their traditional and medium dark roast is very smooth, which in my opinion is paramount when you don't use sweeteners or if you like it black. I order it in K-cup form and take it to work with me. To me it's head and shoulders above, any other brand or chain store offering I've tried.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
Some cheaper brands have gotten better too..



I am not much of a coffee drinker, but my husband doesn't mind Edwards which 10 years ago he considered undrinkable.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2016, 11:53:03 AM
Quote from: "Renee"A coffee that has always been a favorite of mine is Gevalia. Their traditional and medium dark roast is very smooth, which in my opinion is paramount when you don't use sweeteners or if you like it black. I order it in K-cup form and take it to work with me. To me it's head and shoulders above, any other brand or chain store offering I've tried.

I like experimenting with different types of coffees for my condo. I bought a Keurig, but I do not use it often.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on May 19, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"A coffee that has always been a favorite of mine is Gevalia. Their traditional and medium dark roast is very smooth, which in my opinion is paramount when you don't use sweeteners or if you like it black. I order it in K-cup form and take it to work with me. To me it's head and shoulders above, any other brand or chain store offering I've tried.

I like experimenting with different types of coffees for my condo. I bought a Keurig, but I do not use it often.


You can't beat a Keurig for convenience and the selection of regular and favored coffee is almost limitless.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Blurt on May 19, 2016, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: "Renee"A coffee that has always been a favorite of mine is Gevalia. Their traditional and medium dark roast is very smooth, which in my opinion is paramount when you don't use sweeteners or if you like it black. I order it in K-cup form and take it to work with me. To me it's head and shoulders above, any other brand or chain store offering I've tried.

Two thumbs up on this brand.



Herman might want to look into it, too, as their delivery service is convenient.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2016, 08:17:33 PM
I have two sources for coffee.  One is a very reputable St.Louis roaster who supplies beans in 2# bags with a 10# minimum, so I usually pool orders with one or two friends.  It gets here within 2 days.  He has a very consistent Costa Rican SHB high grown Tarrazu that is lovely with a full city roast, and that will be two-thirds of my order.  The rest is usually an Arabica of some sort...Tanzania or Kenya or whatever sounds good.



My other source is a lady on this side of StLouis who runs a nice restaurant and coffee shop, buys her beans at the wholesale market in StLouis and does her own roasting and blending.  She knows my tastes and will usually have something on hand she can recommend to me.  Last one was an oddball Mexican bean that was smoky and crisp with a medium roast but didn't want more heat than that.  Her minimum is ten pounds, mix and match, and her service is very good.  Often I can find someone I know who's making the StL trip and I can get them to stop in there and pick the beans up for me, to save the shipping cost.



So, I'm happy with this combination of suppliers, about five years into it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 01:03:38 AM
I am not one of those high falutin rednecks. As long as it's strong, dark and served with only a drop of milk I am happy.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 09:50:41 PM
Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

Another first world problem. :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

Another first world problem. :001_rolleyes:

lol Seoul

  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

Another first world problem. :001_rolleyes:




I'm not really a first worlder, so a problem for me it ain't.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 21, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

I think people are a little more accepting of a glass full of ice when they aren't paying over $5 for it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

I think people are a little more accepting of a glass full of ice when they aren't paying over $5 for it.


I thought it was a matter of principle, and of full disclosure, or something.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 21, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
The price played a bit part because they cost more than regular hot coffees.



See, this irks me.  People are willing to shit on a case when they don't even know the complaint.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on May 24, 2016, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Renee"There is a local convenience store that has decent coffee and a good cappuccino. They are cheaper than Starbucks by almost a dollar and their coffee lacks that burnt ashtray taste that Starbucks always leaves in my mouth.



To me Starbucks Coffee tastes like ass and it gives me the caffeine shakes.



Given a choice I'll drink Dunkin Donuts coffee or even the coffee at McDonald's before anything from Starsucks.

Anything sold in a Dunkin Donuts is not meant for human consumption in my opinion. Mickey D's is improving, I will admit that. Gas station coffee for the most part is just coloured hot water.


Actually a few years ago Consumer Reports ran a taste and McDonald's beat out Starsucks and Dunkin Donuts came in second. In fact they said Starbucks tastes every bit as bad and burnt as I think it does.

Since everyone has different tastebuds, I would not put much stock in that..



Some people like strong coffee, some like weak coffee and some like dark and some like medium roasts..



If someone has a different opinion than the majority they don't care about taste tests Consumer Reports conducted.


Bullshit, taste is taste. It either taste like good coffee or it doesn't. I would argue that nobody really likes dishwater coffee and the majority of people don't like very strong burnt tasting coffee either.



I would even go so far to say about half the people or more who frequent Starbucks don't really like the coffee....they just like being seen with a cup that has the Starbucks logo on it.

That's an opinion Renee..



My husband likes their dark roast along with Second Cup better than Tim Hortons.


I hate to break the news to you people but Starbucks Coffee is crap. They claim to use Arabica beans exclusively but judging but the caffeine level their coffee has, I have my doubts.



Coffee comes in two varieties, Arabica and Robusta. Robusta beans are less expensive, taste shitty and are much higher in caffeine. They are also darker in color. The reason Starbucks Coffee tastes burnt is because it is. They use a mixture of Arabica and Robusta and roast the beans until they are black or very dark brown.....why.....because burnt beans all taste the same....burnt. When you dark roast coffee beans to the point that Starbucks does you lose all the subtle coffee flavors that good cup of coffee is supposed to have, no matter what kind of beans you use. You are left with nothing but nasty burnt tasting coffee which many people describe as ashy.



I know people's tastes vary but you will never be able to convince me that more than a handful of coffee drinkers enjoy ashy tasting coffee.


Some time in the next couple of weeks, I'm going to buy a bag of beans from Dunkin' Donuts and see if it measures up to what you say. I've heard that most of what they sell is coffee, anyway... probably not without good reason.



I'm open to admitting that chronic Starbucks consumers might have Stockholm syndrome. I've tried several different kinds of Starbucks coffee, and let's just say they're not going to win any contests for flavorful roasts.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 24, 2016, 09:35:44 AM
Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 25, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Peaches"Here's a Handrail Alert.  



Drove by a billboard today that said McDonald's (around here, anyway) is now offering a "medium" iced coffee for $1.69.



I haven't looked at the consumer info in the store or on the web site to see what the actual size of a "medium" iced coffee serving is supposed to be.  I'll leave that to the more litigious people who seem to be all over issues like this one.

I think people are a little more accepting of a glass full of ice when they aren't paying over $5 for it.

I am not one of those snooty uptown rednecks that likes paying more for a brand name. I drink cheap dark roast coffee and make it strong the way I like it. I look for the cheapest cup of coffee to go in Kindersley because they all suck.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: reel on May 27, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
I like Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  It's expensive, but now that I've had it, I'll either have to find some fancy roasting place to make me something proper or carry on, because I can't look back.



As to the argument here, the corporate greed angle just doesn't stand up.  Mass produced coffee costs something like $0.08 to $0.10 a cup for the coffee itself.  Skimming a third of that to replace it with ice (which also costs money to make) does not make any sense.  The "profit" would be on the order of 1 to 2 cents a cup at most.  That would make absolutely no sense to a company trying to market itself as a premium brand.  This isn't a case of a company trying to screw the consumer, as they have nothing to gain from it.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 27, 2016, 07:51:56 PM
1 or 2 cents per cup is nothing to scoff at when you are selling thousands of cups of coffee DAILY world wide.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: reel on May 27, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
It still doesn't make sense from a business perspective as a money saving measure.  They will make way more profit from selling volume than from saving a few cents per cup.  Their margin on that cup is probably on the order of $2 to $3, so the risk that they sell 1 cup less due to an unsatisfied consumer is 100 fold the profit from skimping on the coffee (ie. they'd have to sell 100 more coffees to make up for each customer that doesn't buy 1 coffee because they think they are getting ripped off by the ice).  That is why they will make you a new cup in a heartbeat rather than have you leave dissatisfied.



The ice volume is there for some other reason.  It is not there to save money.  The economics don't make sense.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 27, 2016, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: "reel"I like Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  It's expensive, but now that I've had it, I'll either have to find some fancy roasting place to make me something proper or carry on, because I can't look back.



As to the argument here, the corporate greed angle just doesn't stand up.  Mass produced coffee costs something like $0.08 to $0.10 a cup for the coffee itself.  Skimming a third of that to replace it with ice (which also costs money to make) does not make any sense.  The "profit" would be on the order of 1 to 2 cents a cup at most.  That would make absolutely no sense to a company trying to market itself as a premium brand.  This isn't a case of a company trying to screw the consumer, as they have nothing to gain from it.

Reels, how the fuck are you?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on May 27, 2016, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: "reel"It still doesn't make sense from a business perspective as a money saving measure.  They will make way more profit from selling volume than from saving a few cents per cup.  Their margin on that cup is probably on the order of $2 to $3, so the risk that they sell 1 cup less due to an unsatisfied consumer is 100 fold the profit from skimping on the coffee (ie. they'd have to sell 100 more coffees to make up for each customer that doesn't buy 1 coffee because they think they are getting ripped off by the ice).  That is why they will make you a new cup in a heartbeat rather than have you leave dissatisfied.



The ice volume is there for some other reason.  It is not there to save money.  The economics don't make sense.

The economics do make sense. If they sell larger sized drinks as a result of lesser product, is that not seeing a higher profit on said drink?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 28, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: "reel"It still doesn't make sense from a business perspective as a money saving measure.  They will make way more profit from selling volume than from saving a few cents per cup.  Their margin on that cup is probably on the order of $2 to $3, so the risk that they sell 1 cup less due to an unsatisfied consumer is 100 fold the profit from skimping on the coffee (ie. they'd have to sell 100 more coffees to make up for each customer that doesn't buy 1 coffee because they think they are getting ripped off by the ice).  That is why they will make you a new cup in a heartbeat rather than have you leave dissatisfied.



The ice volume is there for some other reason.  It is not there to save money.  The economics don't make sense.

That makes sense. But, I still buy cheap stuff. I use the amount I want and it has the potency I like. Besides, the diners around here make undrinkable coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 28, 2016, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: "reel"I like Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  It's expensive, but now that I've had it, I'll either have to find some fancy roasting place to make me something proper or carry on, because I can't look back.



As to the argument here, the corporate greed angle just doesn't stand up.  Mass produced coffee costs something like $0.08 to $0.10 a cup for the coffee itself.  Skimming a third of that to replace it with ice (which also costs money to make) does not make any sense.  The "profit" would be on the order of 1 to 2 cents a cup at most.  That would make absolutely no sense to a company trying to market itself as a premium brand.  This isn't a case of a company trying to screw the consumer, as they have nothing to gain from it.

That is exceptional coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
We switched to espresso only a few years ago. Never have looked back



For throughout the day, extra water to get more volume but still is as good as it gets ..... a full strength now and then to luxuriate ... might do a cappuccino now and then for a change of pace.



For the information of any truly REAL coffee types, we use our previously secret brand  ..... believe  it or not London Drugs has picked up the best of all ... not sure if exclusive or not  ... roasted in Canada following the best Italian standards ... "AGenco Caffe's Della Rossa Espresso" //http://agencocaffe.com/ (pic shows ground, but have never seen it on shelves and we always buy the whole beans and grind away)



We have tried them all and have a shelf full of barely used bags of well reputed but "inferior" stuff .. for sale cheap
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"We switched to espresso only a few years ago. Never have looked back



For throughout the day, extra water to get more volume but still is as good as it gets ..... a full strength now and then to luxuriate ... might do a cappuccino now and then for a change of pace.



For the information of any truly REAL coffee types, we use our previously secret brand  ..... believe  it or not London Drugs has picked up the best of all ... not sure if exclusive or not  ... roasted in Canada .. Agenco //http://agencocaffe.com/



We have tried them all and have a shelf full of barely used bags

I am not really into types of coffee or brands, but I do like a good triple espresso when I am in a city.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
They suggest a stovetop method - We use a Deloghi pressure pump machine .... there will most always be an 1/8 " of golden crème on top ... heaven in a cup
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"They suggest a stovetop method - We use a Deloghi pressure pump machine .... there will most always be an 1/8 " of golden crème on top ... heaven in a cup

I will take your word for it ceec. We buy Edwards dark roast and I make it super strong. The old lady is not a coffee drinker anyway.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 12:35:23 PM
Edwards dark is a good drip coffee ... beats the heck out of the other regular shelf  brands
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Edwards dark is a good drip coffee ... beats the heck out of the other regular shelf  brands

And it's cheaper than most too. We buy it in bulk when it's on sale.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
Used it a lot before going all espresso-snob  ac_smile
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 12:38:25 PM
Used it a lot  .. Safeway sales stock up ... before going all espresso-exclusive snob  ac_smile
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Used it a lot  .. Safeway sales stock up ... before going all espresso-exclusive snob  ac_smile

I don't want to turn into one of those high class, up town, snooty rednecks.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
Speaking of rednecks, Rolling Thunder is about to start in Washington ... if you are interested. Not sure if wannabe elitist CNN and MSN networks  will carry it live



1000s of really top big rumbling hogs and all paying their respect for  vets for Memorial weekend. It takes a long time for all to pass by  



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Shen would orgasm herself to death before it was 1/4 over   ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Speaking of rednecks, Rolling Thunder is about to start in Washington ... if you are interested. Not sure if wannabe elitist CNN and MSN networks  will carry it live



1000s of really top big rumbling hogs and all paying homage to vets for Memorial weekend. It takes a long time for all to pass by  



Shen would orgasm herself to death before it was 1/4 over   ac_toofunny

I think I will put on hold the work I was going to do today. Fridge is stocked with Bud, so I am good to go.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Speaking of rednecks, Rolling Thunder is about to start in Washington ... if you are interested. Not sure if wannabe elitist CNN and MSN networks  will carry it live



1000s of really top big rumbling hogs and all paying their respect for  vets for Memorial weekend. It takes a long time for all to pass by  



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Shen would orgasm herself to death before it was 1/4 over   ac_toofunny

Gotta go.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on May 29, 2016, 02:47:03 PM
lol



I have a lovely picture in my mind  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"Edwards dark is a good drip coffee ... beats the heck out of the other regular shelf  brands

We have a Keurig, but I like drip coffee. In the locomotives, we have the old steel campfire coffee pots. I make it good and strong.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "cc la femme"Edwards dark is a good drip coffee ... beats the heck out of the other regular shelf  brands

We have a Keurig, but I like drip coffee. In the locomotives, we have the old steel campfire coffee pots. I make it good and strong.

I have had campfire coffee. I was surprised how good it was.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: reel on May 30, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is exceptional coffee.


A friend came by to pick up some baby clothes we were giving him and he'd just picked up a delivery order of coffee.  He gave us a pound of medium roasted beans, which we quickly consumed.  It was like no other coffee I'd ever had.  We tried to find it ourselves, but couldn't find it for less than $60/lb ($138/lb on Amazon.ca!).  We ended up asking the friend where he got it and ordering from there at $23USD/lb, which is still exorbitant, but it's just so damn good.  I figure it's twice the price I'd normally pay, but it's at least 3 times as good - so good value!  Unfortunately, because it's so good, I also tend to make more of it.



I've only ever made espresso.  I don't really know how to make anything else, but I don't like anything else anyway.  Work has a Keurig machine, which I'll choke down just for the caffeine, but I can't tell the difference between the 20 or so different capsules, except that they are all bad.






Quote from: "Shen Li"Reels, how the fuck are you?


Good good.  Other than that I have to go on a surprise trip to Africa next week.  I dislike surprise trips to Africa.  :(
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on May 30, 2016, 03:37:32 PM
It was like no other coffee i ever had. I don't expect to have that treat again anytime soon.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 06, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 06, 2016, 10:20:11 AM
So I finally got around to trying Dunkin' Donuts ground beans. I was in shock at how terrible I think they are! they taste like flavored dirt.



the argument that was sort of spawned by Renee was that Starbucks is crap because they use robusta beans. The primary reason I drink coffee is for the caffeine, so if it doesn't have the required potency it's practically useless to me... and that's Dunkin' Donuts in a nutshell. It seemed like compared to the Starbucks French Roast that it had half of the caffeine content.



I think I'll stick to Starbucks for the time being... but this Jamaican blue Mountain sounds exquisite. It might just be out of my price range, though.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: RW on June 06, 2016, 11:14:20 AM
The lighter the roast, the more caffeine.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 06, 2016, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: "RW"The lighter the roast, the more caffeine.


Exactly....also the lighter the roast the better it is for you. Coffee is not just for a caffeine high..... Coffee contains antioxidants that studies show improve mood, prevent headaches, improve physical performance, fight colon and other forms of cancer, fight liver disease and there is even a link that shows coffee reduces the risk of Parkinson's disease.



The darker the roast the less antioxidants you have in the coffee. In fact in cases of very dark roasts, there is no antioxidant benefit at all.



So if you are just looking for a caffeine jolt....you can get that from a fuckin over the counter pill from your local pharmacy and save yourself the trouble of brewing the coffee.



BTW Shin, I'm curious....how do you know what "flavored dirt" tastes like? Do you have some experience with eating dirt?......Maybe that's a subject for a whole separate thread.  ac_biggrin



Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2016, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: "RW"The lighter the roast, the more caffeine.

I was drinking coffee for a long time before I found that out. I stll prefer darker roasts.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 06, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 06, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2016, 10:20:16 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2016, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?

I wonder if they have the same menu in the USA.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 06, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?


Only had coffee from there once.....it was ok.



I usually hit QuickChek which is a regional chain convenience store / gas station.  There coffee is better and fresher and they have a larger selection. It also tends to be less expensive than most of the chain coffee stores.



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You serve yourself and they are making fresh pots about every 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2016, 10:45:51 PM
Timmy's expansion plans in the states have not worked out the way they had hoped. They have about 550 locations, but they have closed franchises.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2016, 07:40:09 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?


Only had coffee from there once.....it was ok.



I usually hit QuickChek which is a regional chain convenience store / gas station.  There coffee is better and fresher and they have a larger selection. It also tends to be less expensive than most of the chain coffee stores.



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You serve yourself and they are making fresh pots about every 20 minutes.

I have only been to the airport in your region Renee..



I never saw a QuickChek.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 07, 2016, 09:28:01 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?


Only had coffee from there once.....it was ok.



I usually hit QuickChek which is a regional chain convenience store / gas station.  There coffee is better and fresher and they have a larger selection. It also tends to be less expensive than most of the chain coffee stores.



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You serve yourself and they are making fresh pots about every 20 minutes.

I have only been to the airport in your region Renee..



I never saw a QuickChek.


I'm assuming you were at Newark-Liberty Airport....isn't that hub a real treat.  :laugh3:



I don't think there is a Quickchek at any of the terminals. I know they have over 100 locations in NJ and lower NY.



The Quickchek franchise was started by Durling Farms Dairy back in the 1960s.  Back in the late 90s they went from being just a crappy convenience store to these full service convenience/deli/gas stations. They are basically a one stop shop for breakfast, lunch and gas (for your car) ac_biggrin .



They've done very well and have basically driven the other so called main stay convenience stores like 7-11 and Krauser's out of business in the area.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2016, 06:07:52 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?


Only had coffee from there once.....it was ok.



I usually hit QuickChek which is a regional chain convenience store / gas station.  There coffee is better and fresher and they have a larger selection. It also tends to be less expensive than most of the chain coffee stores.



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You serve yourself and they are making fresh pots about every 20 minutes.

I like the look of the set up. Lots of different coffees to choose from it seems.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2016, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Are there any Tim Hortons franchises close to you shin?


Sadly, no. The only Tim Horton's in the U.S. are on the upper peninsula of Michigan.


That is not entirely accurate. I saw one on the road coming down from Niagara Falls through Buffalo, New York. :Laie_68:


There several locations in NJ. and in NYC. In fact there is one right on rt. 35 in Hazlet that I pass to and from work everyday.

What do you think of their coffee, sandwiches and soups?


Only had coffee from there once.....it was ok.



I usually hit QuickChek which is a regional chain convenience store / gas station.  There coffee is better and fresher and they have a larger selection. It also tends to be less expensive than most of the chain coffee stores.



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You serve yourself and they are making fresh pots about every 20 minutes.

I have only been to the airport in your region Renee..



I never saw a QuickChek.


I'm assuming you were at Newark-Liberty Airport....isn't that hub a real treat.  :laugh3:



I don't think there is a Quickchek at any of the terminals. I know they have over 100 locations in NJ and lower NY.



The Quickchek franchise was started by Durling Farms Dairy back in the 1960s.  Back in the late 90s they went from being just a crappy convenience store to these full service convenience/deli/gas stations. They are basically a one stop shop for breakfast, lunch and gas (for your car) ac_biggrin .



They've done very well and have basically driven the other so called main stay convenience stores like 7-11 and Krauser's out of business in the area.

I have been in gas stations and seen displays similar to that.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 13, 2016, 11:15:54 AM
It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 13, 2016, 11:17:15 AM
Welcome back, Shen Li! Did you pop yet? :wink:
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2016, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: "shin"Welcome back, Shen Li! Did you pop yet? :wink:

I think she did.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 13, 2016, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:


"Sass" ac_umm



I should probably tone it down and let the character of this place adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:

I am the least fussy person you could ever meet. If a cup of coffee wakes me up, it's quality in my books.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 15, 2016, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:

I am the least fussy person you could ever meet. If a cup of coffee wakes me up, it's quality in my books.


It's kind of like the same aesthetic we attribute to alcohol. Outside of the fruity mixed drinks, the mark of the drink is often paired with how intoxicated does it get us... but to a lesser degree than coffee. Growing hybrid coffee plants to bear more aromatic and flavorful beans is very much a 1st world idea of modern proportions.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 15, 2016, 08:50:16 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:


"Sass" ac_umm



I should probably tone it down and let the character of this place adjust accordingly.






Why, because I called you sassy?



If you were willing to trade blows with LS all day every day, why start pulling your punches now? Unless you didn't realize how it sounded and suddenly feel put on the spot, I wouldn't bother acting like something you don't really want to be. I'll take my lumps like a man if you take your criticisms on the cheek, eh, kissyface?  ac_razz
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2016, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:


"Sass" ac_umm



I should probably tone it down and let the character of this place adjust accordingly.






Why, because I called you sassy?



If you were willing to trade blows with LS all day every day, why start pulling your punches now? Unless you didn't realize how it sounded and suddenly feel put on the spot, I wouldn't bother acting like something you don't really want to be. I'll take my lumps like a man if you take your criticisms on the cheek, eh, kissyface?  ac_razz


It's just that I can be a little overbearing. My online personality talks a lot of trash. It can be off-putting to some because I come off as a bully. I should probably be more mindful of the image that I present here.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2016, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: "shin"Welcome back, Shen Li! Did you pop yet? :wink:

She had a healthy baby boy shin.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 18, 2016, 08:06:18 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "shin"Welcome back, Shen Li! Did you pop yet? :wink:

She had a healthy baby boy shin.

 ac_smile


Aw, congrats Shen Li!
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 18, 2016, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "shin"It seems my information on Tim Horton's is outdated. I didn't know they were trying to expand into the U.S... but I would have gotten away for it if it weren't for Renee and those pesky kids at the Cashew! Dang nabiit!  ac_razz



Renee, I know what dirt tastes like from eating freshly picked root vegetables, and from being a child who would put things in my mouth that aren't quite fit for human consumption.



I don't remember what I sad about caffeine and roasting coffee beans but I would think it's almost common knowledge that the more you roast them the more nutrients and caffeine get depleted from the beans.



I used to find your sass alarming, but seeing as it's a part of the Blue Cash experience... thank you sir, may I have another?  Extra flavored dirt, please! :tease:


"Sass" ac_umm



I should probably tone it down and let the character of this place adjust accordingly.






Why, because I called you sassy?



If you were willing to trade blows with LS all day every day, why start pulling your punches now? Unless you didn't realize how it sounded and suddenly feel put on the spot, I wouldn't bother acting like something you don't really want to be. I'll take my lumps like a man if you take your criticisms on the cheek, eh, kissyface?  ac_razz


It's just that I can be a little overbearing. My online personality talks a lot of trash. It can be off-putting to some because I come off as a bully. I should probably be more mindful of the image that I present here.


As long as you don't scare anyone away, I don't see a problem with a strong-willed woman. Sometimes you're even funny!



Can I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2016, 01:12:44 PM
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 20, 2016, 08:56:55 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 20, 2016, 09:00:52 AM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 28, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.


Yeah, I should probably make a new thread. There isn't much left about coffee to bring up.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 28, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.


A week later and (at least) a dollar shy of being enriched, but I'm back.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2016, 11:14:39 AM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.


A week later and (at least) a dollar shy of being enriched, but I'm back.


Must be the coffee.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 28, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.


A week later and (at least) a dollar shy of being enriched, but I'm back.


Must be the coffee.


I could use a dbl espresso. Need to think of a reason to go down town first.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 28, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.


A week later and (at least) a dollar shy of being enriched, but I'm back.


Must be the coffee.


You could be right
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: shin on June 28, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
QuoteCan I buy you a robusta bean coffee and show you how the other half lives?

Have you enjoyed a cup or two of premium coffee today shin?

 ac_smile


Yes, but I wouldn't exactly call it premium coffee.


Surprised this thread is still alive?

Hope all is well shin. Stop by and say hello more often.

I hope he does too Twenty Dollars.


A week later and (at least) a dollar shy of being enriched, but I'm back.


Must be the coffee.


I could use a dbl espresso. Need to think of a reason to go down town first.


You don't really need a reason to stretch your legs other than you're already doing so. Sometimes things get boring when everything is pre-planned.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on June 28, 2016, 03:05:50 PM
I just make my own espresso throughout the day at home.



However, we have discovered a Starbucks (yes, I stoop that low) with outdoor patio with greenery / lovely natural trees all around it.

We go there most afternoons to give the "Luv Brd"  a run and to get out of the city atmosphere.



 Not paying for espresso there though, just a dark roast regular (pretty good for regular) ... motive is not coffee, rather it is  a ride and to enjoy sitting and slurping within woods followed by walking in it
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2016, 06:08:05 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I just make my own espresso throughout the day at home.



However, we have discovered a Starbucks (yes, I stoop that low) with outdoor patio with greenery / lovely natural trees all around it.

We go there most afternoons to give the "Luv Brd"  a run and to get out of the city atmosphere.



 Not paying for espresso there though, just a dark roast regular (pretty good for regular) ... motive is not coffee, rather it is  a ride and to enjoy sitting and slurping within woods followed by walking in it

You just want to show off the Luv Brd.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: cc on June 28, 2016, 06:13:09 PM
moi?



lol ... ubechya!!
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"moi?



lol ... ubechya!!

I go to a Tim Horton's when I am in Regina where a lot of bikers go to show off their bikes.
Title: Re: Woman suing Starbucks, after discovering Ice in her Iced Coffee
Post by: Anonymous on June 28, 2016, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: "cc la femme"I just make my own espresso throughout the day at home.



However, we have discovered a Starbucks (yes, I stoop that low) with outdoor patio with greenery / lovely natural trees all around it.

We go there most afternoons to give the "Luv Brd"  a run and to get out of the city atmosphere.



 Not paying for espresso there though, just a dark roast regular (pretty good for regular) ... motive is not coffee, rather it is  a ride and to enjoy sitting and slurping within woods followed by walking in it

I go to coffee shops for that reason too cc la femme..



But, I take the C-Train or ride my bike..



I don't like driving on my days off.