Title: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: cc on May 10, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Post by: cc on May 10, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Using an unprecedented technique of matching stars to the locations of temples on Earth, a 15-year-old Canadian student says he's discovered a forgotten Maya city in Mexico. Images from space suggest he may actually be onto something—but experts say it's something much simpler.
William Gadoury, a teen from Saint-Jean-de-Matha in Lanaudière, developed an interest in archaeology after the publication of the Maya calendar announcing the end of the world in 2012. After spending hours pouring over diagrams of constellations and maps of known Maya cities, he noticed that the two appeared to be linked; the brightest stars of the constellations overlaid perfectly with the locations of the largest Maya cities. As reported in The Telegraph, no other scientist had ever discovered such a correlation.
Here's how he discovered the lost city: After studying 22 different constellations, Gadoury noticed that they neatly corresponded to the locations of 117 Mayan cities located in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. When looking at a 23rd constellation, he was able to match two stars to known cities—but a third star remained unmatched. Using transparent overlays, Gadoury pinpointed a location deep in the thick jungles of the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico.
"I did not understand why the Maya built their cities away from rivers, on marginal lands, and in the mountains," explained Gadoury in Le Journal de Montreal. "They must have had another reason, and as they worshiped the stars, the idea came to me to verify my hypothesis. I was really surprised and excited when I realized that the most brilliant stars of the constellations matched the largest Maya cities."
Taking this idea further, Gadoury contacted the Canadian Space Agency, who provided him with space-based images from NASA and JAXA. These satellite images revealed a batch of undeniably geometric structures hidden under the jungle canopy. Gadoury, along with Dr. Armand LaRocque, a remote sensing specialist from the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton, believe it's an ancient Maya pyramid surrounded by 30 smaller structures. The teen has named the city—which has yet to be explored and verified—K'aak Chi, which means "Mouth of Fire." If confirmed, it would be among the largest Maya cities ever discovered.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: cc on May 10, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
Post by: cc on May 10, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
and nailed it
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star MapsQuote from: "cc la femme"cc - I don't usually post / quote so much text, but this one needs it and deserves it(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1peVOzMd--/bvp1jepplt8h8gltwpmd.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/ima%20...%20ltwpmd.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1peVOzMd--/bvp1jepplt8h8gltwpmd.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Using an unprecedented technique of matching stars to the locations of temples on Earth, a 15-year-old Canadian student says he's discovered a forgotten Maya city in Mexico. Images from space suggest he may actually be onto something—but experts say it's something much simpler.
William Gadoury, a teen from Saint-Jean-de-Matha in Lanaudière, developed an interest in archaeology after the publication of the Maya calendar announcing the end of the world in 2012. After spending hours pouring over diagrams of constellations and maps of known Maya cities, he noticed that the two appeared to be linked; the brightest stars of the constellations overlaid perfectly with the locations of the largest Maya cities. As reported in The Telegraph, no other scientist had ever discovered such a correlation.
Here's how he discovered the lost city: After studying 22 different constellations, Gadoury noticed that they neatly corresponded to the locations of 117 Mayan cities located in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. When looking at a 23rd constellation, he was able to match two stars to known cities—but a third star remained unmatched. Using transparent overlays, Gadoury pinpointed a location deep in the thick jungles of the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico.
"I did not understand why the Maya built their cities away from rivers, on marginal lands, and in the mountains," explained Gadoury in Le Journal de Montreal. "They must have had another reason, and as they worshiped the stars, the idea came to me to verify my hypothesis. I was really surprised and excited when I realized that the most brilliant stars of the constellations matched the largest Maya cities."(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--BxzY-hdU--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nru58bbvrvcand7qyelx.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/ima%20...%207qyelx.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--BxzY-hdU--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nru58bbvrvcand7qyelx.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Taking this idea further, Gadoury contacted the Canadian Space Agency, who provided him with space-based images from NASA and JAXA. These satellite images revealed a batch of undeniably geometric structures hidden under the jungle canopy. Gadoury, along with Dr. Armand LaRocque, a remote sensing specialist from the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton, believe it's an ancient Maya pyramid surrounded by 30 smaller structures. The teen has named the city—which has yet to be explored and verified—K'aak Chi, which means "Mouth of Fire." If confirmed, it would be among the largest Maya cities ever discovered.More from Gizmodo(//http)
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Wowzers is right.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 11, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
Post by: Renee on May 11, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
1000s of historians missed it for centuries. This kid questions why they usually built away from rivers and friendly surroundings ..... factored in their worship of the stars ...Quote from: "cc la femme"
and nailed it
Let's not get carried away on this just yet.....
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: cc on May 11, 2016, 02:06:55 PM
Post by: cc on May 11, 2016, 02:06:55 PM
Looks like I got out front a bit early in the game ... 1/2 cock'd if I can put it that way
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2016, 03:14:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2016, 03:14:37 PM
It's a good story.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2016, 12:13:24 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2016, 12:13:24 AM
William Gadoury, 15, of Montreal, shot to fame this week with reports he had stumbled on what he believed to be a lost city. His theory was that the Mayans might have built their cities so they lined up with major constellations.
But the work - despite having the helping hand of the Canadian Space Agency - has not yet been peer-reviewed, and scientists who have taken a look so far have not been sold.
Although nobody has visited the remote site since the teen's find, a satellite image making the rounds online, which claims to show a possible pyramid base, is likely nothing more than a fallow corn field, say many scientists.
One such expert, Geoffrey Braswell, from the University of San Diego, believes Gadoury may have found a marijuana field. He should know: he's visited the area in the past.
"The fields may be fallow or may be active marijuana fields, which are common in the area. There is no important archaeological site there," he wrote to the Washington Post in an e-mail.
But he encouraged Gadoury to keep trying, and he hopes to see the young man apply to USC-San Diego.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2016, 08:12:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2016, 08:12:43 PM
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2016, 08:48:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2016, 08:48:00 PM
Figures a Canadian would find pot.Quote from: "Velvet":laugh3:
Isn't that the truth. And welcome Velvet.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: easter bunny on May 16, 2016, 08:53:42 PM
Post by: easter bunny on May 16, 2016, 08:53:42 PM
"The idea of a map as we know it, as a scaled representation of geographic reality, is a modern Western concept,"says Aveni, who adds that the cosmos is "certainly involved" in patterning how we build things on earth, but not to the degree of precision claimed by Gadoury. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/20160511-Maya-Lost-City-Canadian-Teen-Discover-Constellations-Archaeology-Satellite-Stars-Gadoury/
So, modern Westerners invented the concept of maps? Excuse me, but that ranks as one of the top ten stupidest things I've ever heard a scientist say.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
"The idea of a map as we know it, as a scaled representation of geographic reality, is a modern Western concept,"says Aveni, who adds that the cosmos is "certainly involved" in patterning how we build things on earth, but not to the degree of precision claimed by Gadoury. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/20160511-Maya-Lost-City-Canadian-Teen-Discover-Constellations-Archaeology-Satellite-Stars-Gadoury/
So, modern Westerners invented the concept of maps? Excuse me, but that ranks as one of the top ten stupidest things I've ever heard a scientist say.:laugh3:
No, that's not what the statement says. It doesn't say modern westerners invented the "concept" of maps. The true "concept" Is probably Babylonian or Egyptian.
The statement refers to a specific kind of map...
A map that we would recognize as a accurate scaled geographic representation.
That kind of map is a western concept. The first somewhat accurate maps were created by the Greeks sometime shortly after the time of Homer's Odyssey. The first truly accurate maps of scale geographic representation come from the Portuguese, Spanish and Flemish schools of cartography dating back to the so called Age of Exploration.
As for the concept of maps.....if you really want to get technical, the first maps were crude star charts painted on cave walls in France and Spain some 8,000 years ago.
Sorry, just showing off a thirst for useless information and a BS degree in European History that I almost never get to use.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 10:00:19 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 10:00:19 AM
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 10:29:04 AM
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 10:29:04 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 11:04:01 AM
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 11:04:01 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Yes.......NCSA athletic scholarship.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:08:51 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:08:51 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Yes.......NCSA athletic scholarship.
Very nice. It's an honor, and I bet it made Mom and Dad happy for a bunch of reasons. I would say it cost over $100,000 to send my daughter to school.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:12:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:12:15 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Yes.......NCSA athletic scholarship.
Very nice. It's an honor, and I bet it made Mom and Dad happy for a bunch of reasons. I would say it cost over $100,000 to send my daughter to school.
We have been putting money into RESP's since my daughter was born..
But, still they have to go to school in Calgary.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:17:03 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:17:03 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Yes.......NCSA athletic scholarship.
Very nice. It's an honor, and I bet it made Mom and Dad happy for a bunch of reasons. I would say it cost over $100,000 to send my daughter to school.
We have been putting money into RESP's since my daughter was born..
But, still they have to go to school in Calgary.
Fash clearly it's very expensive now. It is the best investment anyone could make though.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:18:51 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2016, 11:18:51 AM
We will pay all expenses for our children if they live at home and go to school in Calgary.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 11:43:51 AM
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 11:43:51 AM
A BS in European History. Were you planning to be a teacher? WTF else would you use that type of degree for?Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
That was the plan. But I discovered that I can't stand other people's kids.:laugh3:
I also can't deal with the sense of entitlement, stupidity and the endless political propaganda that comes along with being a member of the teachers union.
To be honest I went to college to play ball. The degree was just a perk that came along with the privilege.:laugh3:
Softball?
Yes.......NCSA athletic scholarship.
Very nice. It's an honor, and I bet it made Mom and Dad happy for a bunch of reasons. I would say it cost over $100,000 to send my daughter to school.
Believe me, I do feel very honored to have received the kind of recognition and opportunities I been given.
Also I know full well the cost of tuition. I have one in college now and another one that has been accepted and will be going in September. AND I have another one that will hopefully be going somewhere in 2 years.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 17, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
Post by: Renee on May 17, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
My son chose not to go. He's 4 years younger. He wanted to work with his hands. He learned a trade and eventually into a subcontracting business. He is doing very well. Daughter became interested in politics and is a registered Lobbiest in Ca. It sometimes baffles me the way they turned out. I don't believe I at all times, was the ideal parent. Still harbor guilt.Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
What parent doesn't carry some guilt? If you take an active roll you're always going to second guess yourself somewhere and odds are there's going to be situations that you know you could've handled better. You just hope you don't fuck up too badly.
So we live with some guilt.....it's part of our job.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:44:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:44:09 AM
My son chose not to go. He's 4 years younger. He wanted to work with his hands. He learned a trade and eventually into a subcontracting business. He is doing very well. Daughter became interested in politics and is a registered Lobbiest in Ca. It sometimes baffles me the way they turned out. I don't believe I at all times, was the ideal parent. Still harbor guilt.Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
What parent doesn't carry some guilt? If you take an active roll you're always going to second guess yourself somewhere and odds are there's going to be situations that you know you could've handled better. You just hope you don't fuck up too badly.
So we live with some guilt.....it's part of our job.
Tell me about it Renee. I divorced when my boy was young and I was a monthly maintenance payment that came in from every corner of the globe. He is twenty five now and still has not grown up, but he will be coming up to the farm this weekend and I will probably give in when he asks me for stuff. The guilt is still there.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 18, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on May 18, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:08:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2016, 12:08:46 PM
When I got divorced son was a senior in HS, daughter away at school. When we told then what was about to happen, it freaked them out. Wife moved to Sacremento. My son became a home body. Didnt want to leave the house. Daughter didn't want to come home. Was really a weird time. Divorces are expensive. Both she and I put the peddle down as not to include a bankruptcy during this life change. I believe my son moved ahead, and got over it. Daughter still struggles with it, I think if we could go back, don't think there was much else that could have been different. It sort of took on a life of its own.Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
We have divorced people and their children in our church..
Divorce has consequences, though there are circumstances where divorce is necessary.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
Post by: Renee on May 18, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
When I got divorced son was a senior in HS, daughter away at school. When we told then what was about to happen, it freaked them out. Wife moved to Sacremento. My son became a home body. Didnt want to leave the house. Daughter didn't want to come home. Was really a weird time. Divorces are expensive. Both she and I put the peddle down as not to include a bankruptcy during this life change. I believe my son moved ahead, and got over it. Daughter still struggles with it, I think if we could go back, don't think there was much else that could have been different.Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"It sort of took on a life of its own.
That's what divorces do.....and everyone involved handles them differently.
All you can do as a parent going through a divorce is do your best to keep the anger and the acrimonious bullshit to a minimum. For kids, a martial split is the destruction of the world that they view as their safety and security. As a responsible parent, you need to reassure them that the security they enjoy isn't going to end; it's just going to change and take on a new chapter in their lives.
Unfortunately getting them to understand and believe, is usually easier said than done.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 01:22:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 01:22:10 AM
My divorce did not ruin me financially. She had to pay me out for the house and I had to make monthly maintenance payments. We agreed to everything. Parastical lawyers did not get rich off of us.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Renee on May 20, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
Post by: Renee on May 20, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
My divorce was not that acrimonious.Quote from: "Herman"We had so much in common. She is a female version of myself. She is a redneck woman.I knocked her up and married her. There was never any chemistry. My new wife is the opposite of me in nearly every way, but we connect.
My divorce did not ruin me financially. She had to pay me out for the house and I had to make monthly maintenance payments. We agreed to everything. Parastical lawyers did not get rich off of us.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
My divorce was not that acrimonious.Quote from: "Herman"We had so much in common. She is a female version of myself. She is a redneck woman.I knocked her up and married her. There was never any chemistry. My new wife is the opposite of me in nearly every way, but we connect.
My divorce did not ruin me financially. She had to pay me out for the house and I had to make monthly maintenance payments. We agreed to everything. Parastical lawyers did not get rich off of us.
ac_umm Please tell me you didn't meet her at a family reunion.:laugh3:
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 01:45:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 01:45:31 AM
My divorce was not that acrimonious.Quote from: "Herman"We had so much in common. She is a female version of myself. She is a redneck woman.I knocked her up and married her. There was never any chemistry. My new wife is the opposite of me in nearly every way, but we connect.
My divorce did not ruin me financially. She had to pay me out for the house and I had to make monthly maintenance payments. We agreed to everything. Parastical lawyers did not get rich off of us.
ac_umm Please tell me you didn't meet her at a family reunion.:laugh3:
I cannot make any promises.
Title: Re: WOWZERS - Canadian Teen Discovers Lost Maya City Using Ancient Star Maps
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 01:02:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2016, 01:02:24 PM
My divorce was not that acrimonious.Quote from: "Herman"We had so much in common. She is a female version of myself. She is a redneck woman.I knocked her up and married her. There was never any chemistry. My new wife is the opposite of me in nearly every way, but we connect.
My divorce did not ruin me financially. She had to pay me out for the house and I had to make monthly maintenance payments. We agreed to everything. Parastical lawyers did not get rich off of us.
ac_umm Please tell me you didn't meet her at a family reunion.:laugh3:
I cannot make any promises.