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"I characterize it as potentially catastrophic, extremely negligent, ill-considered and inconsistent with the scientific evidence," said Attaran, noting that the science on Zika has rapidly evolved since the IOC last stated that the Games will proceed as planned.
Since that statement in late January, in which the IOC expressed confidence that the Games will be safe and advised participants on how to protect themselves from mosquito bites, researchers have proven that Zika infection during pregnancy can cause microcephaly in newborns.
"It's a bit like saying: 'We're holding the Games in Fukushima. Protect yourself. Wear a lead suit. It will all be fine,"' quipped Attaran, referring to the 2011 post-tsunami nuclear disaster in Japan.
He also criticized the WHO for not taking a stronger stance on the threat of worldwide Zika transmission as a result of the Olympic Games, given that the agency's director general, Margaret Chan, had declared the explosive spread of the virus in the Americas a global public health emergency.
A spokesman for the World Health Organization in Geneva could not be reached for comment Monday.
//http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/rio-olympics-postponed-zika-professor-1.3574341
I agree with Attaran. It's crazy to hold the Olympics in Rio right now. Greed will prevail though. You can bet on it.
It's not just freaking mosquitoes that are a problem in Brazil. It's a typical Banana republic where machoism, misogyny, sexism, anti-gay violence, crime and political corruption are the norm. Socially Brazil is about as backward as it gets for a Western nation. It was a huge mistake to even give the Olympics to a shithole like that.
Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
Yeah it's a shit hole. Moving it now may be a stretch. My sister is a stew for a private airline and is tweeked about going down there. She just got her visa.
Brazil spent like a drunken sailor during the commodities boom. They cannot afford the Olympics even without the Zika thing.
Exactly ^^
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Ditto!!!!
I read that Brazil had no choice, but to reign in some of the extravagance they had planned for the games.
This olympics was supposed to be Brazil's way of showcasing their new status as a newly wealthy nation. Oh well, so much for that.
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Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
That's a shame to hear about Rouseff. My dad has met her several times and lists her as one of his favourite heads of state in the world.
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Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
Two points I want to make here. First is that Rouseff inherited this problem from Lula da Silva. He started the overspending problem.
Second, neighboring Argentina and Uruguay are very gay friendly. But, unlike Brazil, they have European majorities.
Swimming around in raw sewage; dodging killer mosquitoes; plummeting to your death from collapsing walkways... This is going to be an Olympics to remember all right. ac_unsure
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The athletes could choose not to go.
If athletes can handle Sochi and Beijing, they can handle Brazil.
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The athletes could choose not to go.
Some have already done that.
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What was wrong with Beijing;..I mean besides the uhm....... brown air? :laugh3:
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Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
Two points I want to make here. First is that Rouseff inherited this problem from Lula da Silva. He started the overspending problem.
Second, neighboring Argentina and Uruguay are very gay friendly. But, unlike Brazil, they have European majorities.
Are you saying people of European descent are more tolerant of gays?
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Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
Two points I want to make here. First is that Rouseff inherited this problem from Lula da Silva. He started the overspending problem.
Second, neighboring Argentina and Uruguay are very gay friendly. But, unlike Brazil, they have European majorities.
Are you saying people of European descent are more tolerant of gays?
Yes, I am. Whites are less tolerant of misogyny, corruption and police violence too.
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Just look at the developing political situation where the current president has been ousted and will now face impeachment proceedings, presided over by a gang of criminal thieves. Why.....because to get right down to it, the current president is a women, she was extremely popular with voters and she threatens the macho boys club. She is being charged with manipulation of government money and fiscal irregularties which where commonplace and accepted in previous MALE administrations.
Fuck Brazil and fuck thier mosquito problems. The plug should be pulled just for general principles.
Two points I want to make here. First is that Rouseff inherited this problem from Lula da Silva. He started the overspending problem.
Second, neighboring Argentina and Uruguay are very gay friendly. But, unlike Brazil, they have European majorities.
Are you saying people of European descent are more tolerant of gays?
Yes, I am. Whites are less tolerant of misogyny, corruption and police violence too.
I thought stupid racial stereotyping was confined to Reject Rodeo?
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Look pal, I have lived and worked on every continent except Antarctica. What I am saying is based on years of first hand observation. I did not just pull it out of my ass. And if RW, Renee or Fash think I have crossed the line they will move my post or the entire thread.
Poor Brazil. I feel sorry for them.
I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
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I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
They spent too much too fast when times were good. Where is the connection between that and legalizing gay marriage?
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Look pal, I have lived and worked on every continent except Antarctica. What I am saying is based on years of first hand observation. I did not just pull it out of my ass. And if RW, Renee or Fash think I have crossed the line they will move my post or the entire thread.
Or you saw what you wanted to see and drew conclusions before looking at all the contributing socio-economic factors.
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Look pal, I have lived and worked on every continent except Antarctica. What I am saying is based on years of first hand observation. I did not just pull it out of my ass. And if RW, Renee or Fash think I have crossed the line they will move my post or the entire thread.
Or you saw what you wanted to see and drew conclusions before looking at all the contributing socio-economic factors.
What conclusions? I am reporting what I observed. I am not saying it is because of their race that misogyny and anti gay violence is more common. But that is how many non white societies have socialized. Now get over it.
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Look pal, I have lived and worked on every continent except Antarctica. What I am saying is based on years of first hand observation. I did not just pull it out of my ass. And if RW, Renee or Fash think I have crossed the line they will move my post or the entire thread.
Or you saw what you wanted to see and drew conclusions before looking at all the contributing socio-economic factors.
Herm is not scouse.
My husband has worked in Brazil.
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I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
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I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
Some of the same things were said about Beijing too ELPHUPPHY.
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Quote from: "JOE"
I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
Some of the same things were said about Beijing too ELPHUPPHY.
And also true of China's big cities. Air pollution is a huge problem there, forcing the "citizens" to wear filter masks. We are ruining a beautiful planet.
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Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
Quote from: "JOE"
I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
Some of the same things were said about Beijing too ELPHUPPHY.
Careful....that's the "world's greatest civilization" you are talking about. :laugh3:
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Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
Quote from: "JOE"
I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
Some of the same things were said about Beijing too ELPHUPPHY.
And also true of China's big cities. Air pollution is a huge problem there, forcing the "citizens" to wear filter masks. We are ruining a beautiful planet.
We in Canada are not ruining anything. The Chinese are responsible for their own country's problems. Let's place the blame where it belongs.
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Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
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Quote from: "ELPHUPPHY"
Quote from: "JOE"
I really really do.
First it was that drubbing by Germany in the World Cup, and then it was Zika, and now it's an Olympiad headed for disaster.
Perhaps it's jes' a coincidence, but it's all happened after heavily Catholic Brazil decided to legalize Gay Marriage.
Up 'til then, Life was good to them. Now it's been downhill all the way.
Prosperous economy as far as the eye could see.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22534552
Is this God's punishment for going against His Word?
Maybe shoulda left it alone, eh?
Brazil is a pigsty and a third world country in terms of the environment and water cleanliness and even general cleanliness. The Olympics should never have been awarded to them. Swimmers are afraid to swim in the polluted scum ponds, Zika is everywhere, and the violence and slums there are horrific. Cancel the Olympics and quarantine the entire piss-hole country.
Some of the same things were said about Beijing too ELPHUPPHY.
And also true of China's big cities. Air pollution is a huge problem there, forcing the "citizens" to wear filter masks. We are ruining a beautiful planet.
ac_unsure Tar/oil sands?????
Rest assured we are ALL doing our share to fuck the place up. Some of us are just bigger contributors than others.
Canada's oilsands are the whipping boy of leftist enviro hypocrites, but they have no impact whatsoever on climate change. That is according to the IEA and and a study from a professor and now a Green Pary MLA from BC. Fort McMurray's air and water quality is better than most US cities too. Certainly better than where I live.
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Are you filling in for Shen Li while she is on maternity leave? :laugh3:
Anyone who believes that oil sands production or fracking or whatever industrial petroleum extraction is an environmentally neutral process, is either kidding themselves or they are oil industry agenda pushers.
Look I'm no enviro-Nazi, I realize and accept that we need petroleum to make the world go around. If you want to believe that heavy industry in Canuckistan is contributing absolutely nothing to the environmental damage of this planet....don't let me stop you. Just kindly refrain from pissing down my back while telling me it's just rain water.
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No impact on climate change? Are you fucking kidding me?!
Here's some interesting tidbits on carbon concerns from the former CEO of Mobil:
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Mobil's chief executive, Rawleigh Warner, Jr., took notice of the increasing production of tar sands, oil shales and liquefied coal in an article published by the United Nations Environment Program. He was writing 15 years after Suncor Energy began producing oil sands from the first large-scale mine in Alberta, and less than a decade after the Arab oil embargo propelled industry to search for alternative fuels.
"The switch to heavier fossil fuels has already caused much popular concern, primarily seen in some nations' fear of the effects of acid rain," he wrote, "and the general fear that excessive use of these fuels may so build up carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that the earth's temperature may increase, with some disastrous consequences.
"Both of these fears should be seriously addressed."
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"As for the so-called 'greenhouse effect' of carbon dioxide buildup," he wrote, "I recognize that this too may become a serious issue for the future.
http://insideclimatenews.org/sites/default/files/documents/Mobil%20UNEP%20article%201982%20clean.pdf
It's a bit difficult to write off the CEO of an actual oil company as an enviro leftard, eh?
If we are going to have productive conversations about pollution, it needs to be not exaggerated or under exaggerated. To say it has "no impact" is a ridiculous statement.
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The extraction of oil in general has almost no affect on changing the world's climate. Even the most extreme warmist will usually accept the science that it is burning fuels that produces the lions share of emissions from oil and natural gas.
And it is just ridiculous to think extracting oil in Alberta or Saskatchewan has any impact on people or the environment in Ohio and New Jersey. Even Beijing's poor air quality is a localized problem and is not killing the planet. The earth is a lot heartier than some people think.
I have worked in countries that do not give a shit about their own towns let alone the planet. Canada is the opposite of those hellholes. But, even those countries are not wrecking the planet. Just their little corner of it.
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The extraction of oil in general has almost no affect on changing the world's climate. Even the most extreme warmist will usually accept the science that it is burning fuels that produces the lions share of emissions from oil and natural gas.
And it is just ridiculous to think extracting oil in Alberta or Saskatchewan has any impact on people or the environment in Ohio and New Jersey. Even Beijing's poor air quality is a localized problem and is not killing the planet. The earth is a lot heartier than some people think.
I have worked in countries that do not give a shit about their own towns let alone the planet. Canada is the opposite of those hellholes. But, even those countries are not wrecking the planet. Just their little corner of it.
Some of you people need to go back and read because the original premise of this off topic portion of the discussion is not about "climate change". It's about the general impact each country (in this case Canada) has on the planets environment. Contrary to current popular trains of thought, industry impacts the environment in more ways than just the bullshit theory of climate change.
A statement was made that we are ruining the planet and another statement was used in rebuttal stating the Canada isn't ruining or effecting anything.....how retarded.
Are people honestly going to claim that Canadian industries are 100% green????
Deforestation, contamination of water and human waste disposal are issues facing every single country on this rock. To claim that industry in Canada (including the oil industry) has zero impact on the environment is, to put it mildly,...... ludicrous.
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The extraction of oil in general has almost no affect on changing the world's climate. Even the most extreme warmist will usually accept the science that it is burning fuels that produces the lions share of emissions from oil and natural gas.
And it is just ridiculous to think extracting oil in Alberta or Saskatchewan has any impact on people or the environment in Ohio and New Jersey. Even Beijing's poor air quality is a localized problem and is not killing the planet. The earth is a lot heartier than some people think.
I have worked in countries that do not give a shit about their own towns let alone the planet. Canada is the opposite of those hellholes. But, even those countries are not wrecking the planet. Just their little corner of it.
Some of you people need to go back and read because the original premise of this off topic portion of the discussion is not about "climate change". It's about the general impact each country (in this case Canada) has on the planets environment. Contrary to current popular trains of thought, industry impacts the environment in more ways than just the bullshit theory of climate change.
A statement was made that we are ruining the planet and another statement was used in rebuttal stating the Canada isn't ruining or effecting anything.....how retarded.
Are people honestly going to claim that Canadian industries are 100% green????
Deforestation, contamination of water and human waste disposal are issues facing every single country on this rock. To claim that industry in Canada (including the oil industry) has zero impact on the environment is, to put it mildly,...... ludicrous.
Well said, except for the denial of climate change because that too is a ludicrous and retarded statement.
And Herman, what do those big machines that dig the oily sand out of the earth emit? Sunshine and lollipops? Do those giant diggers billow out rainbows? Does Alberta have a different atmosphere than the rest of the world? And why do we talk about it as if extraction is all that's done with it? It's extracted and transported and refined and consumed. Seriously, let's not stop the elevator on the first floor.
I assume you have been up to "The Patch" Herm. How does it look up there? Does it look like a gaping industrial wound in the earth? If the winds are blowing right, can you smell what's cookin' up there? Don't be shy. You can tell the class :)
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Quote from: "seoulbro"
The extraction of oil in general has almost no affect on changing the world's climate. Even the most extreme warmist will usually accept the science that it is burning fuels that produces the lions share of emissions from oil and natural gas.
And it is just ridiculous to think extracting oil in Alberta or Saskatchewan has any impact on people or the environment in Ohio and New Jersey. Even Beijing's poor air quality is a localized problem and is not killing the planet. The earth is a lot heartier than some people think.
I have worked in countries that do not give a shit about their own towns let alone the planet. Canada is the opposite of those hellholes. But, even those countries are not wrecking the planet. Just their little corner of it.
Some of you people need to go back and read because the original premise of this off topic portion of the discussion is not about "climate change". It's about the general impact each country (in this case Canada) has on the planets environment. Contrary to current popular trains of thought, industry impacts the environment in more ways than just the bullshit theory of climate change.
A statement was made that we are ruining the planet and another statement was used in rebuttal stating the Canada isn't ruining or effecting anything.....how retarded.
Are people honestly going to claim that Canadian industries are 100% green????
Deforestation, contamination of water and human waste disposal are issues facing every single country on this rock. To claim that industry in Canada (including the oil industry) has zero impact on the environment is, to put it mildly,...... ludicrous.
I am not claiming that factories, agriculture, resource extraction, transportation, pharmaceuticals and the petrochemical industry do not affect LOCAL environments. But, to say the tailings pond from the potash mine near my farm has is destroying the planet is bullshit. They do not even affect the health of us that live near it.
One of the reasons I chose to return to Canada after decades of working abroad is because Canada is one of the few places I have worked that gives a shit about minimizing any negative side effects of industry. We are not dropping like flies in our fifties from black lung and we are not causing anyone else to either. Desertification and the resulting sand storms in Northern China can be felt in Korea and Japan, but there is no comparison here.