THeBlueCashew

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Apparently they have now found the wreckage.

Quote from: "seoulbro"I read there's an arms race underway between ISIS/Al Qaeda and explosive detection technology. Terror groups are developing new harder to detect underwear and surgically inserted explosives. Both terror groups are targetting the aviation industry.

Quote from: "cc la femme"An EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo made two sharp turns before plunging into the Mediterranean Sea, Greece's defence minister says.



Panos Kammenos said the Airbus A320 had "turned 90 degrees left and then a 360-degree turn to the right".



It then dropped more than 25,000ft (7,620m) before disappearing from radar, he added.

Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"Saying they have found some as of the morning. Regarding the black box, which looks very difficult to recover at this point. Why can't this info be sent to some site outside of the airplane, so the info can be assessed fast? If the box is not recovered, the truth may never be known.

Quote from: "Peaches"Today's new wrinkle seems to be the information that smoke alarms were going off for 2 or 3 minutes prior to the weird radar images.  That makes "explosion" a bit more problematic, though perhaps not impossible.

Quote from: "cc la femme"The Aviation Herald said it had received flight data filed through the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) from three independent channels.



It said the system showed that at 02:26 local time on Thursday (00:26 GMT) smoke was detected in the Airbus A320 toilet.



A minute later - at 00:27 GMT - there was an avionics smoke alert.



The last ACARS message was at 00:29 GMT, the air industry website said, and the contact with the plane was lost four minutes later at 02;33 local time.



//http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36348699

 

cc: None of that indicates whether it was the aircraft itself or sabotage.



On one hand, starting in toilet is of course very suspicious.



On the other hand it is not definitive + the absence of claims of causing a takedown is unusual for recent acts of sabotage



Nowhere can I find if it was in range for radio contact nor why there was no mayday activated during all that time (7 minutes)

Quote from: "seoulbro"About 86,000 of the 100,000 staff at De Gaulle airport have red badges which allow them access to secure areas. I think 85 have been lost for radicalization reasons in the last 18 months. I wonder how many radicals have gone undetected? ac_umm



Edit, those that lost their red badges may still be employed by the airport. :shock:

Quote from: "Fashionista"

Quote from: "seoulbro"About 86,000 of the 100,000 staff at De Gaulle airport have red badges which allow them access to secure areas. I think 85 have been lost for radicalization reasons in the last 18 months. I wonder how many radicals have gone undetected? ac_umm



Edit, those that lost their red badges may still be employed by the airport. :shock:

I was watching how they maintain security at airports..



A bit scary when you think about it.

Quote from: "RW"They need to find a way to keep in contact with aircraft that can't be tampered with for any reason.  Like a signal from the black box that never stops transmitting.

Quote from: "easter bunny"

Quote from: "RW"They need to find a way to keep in contact with aircraft that can't be tampered with for any reason.  Like a signal from the black box that never stops transmitting.

Maybe put sonar in those black boxes too. Make them easier to find. Ah fuck it. Might as well just put parachutes in all the seats. =(

Quote from: "cc la femme"Do keep in mind that this has not been identified as sabotage



I'm in a 50 / 50 pattern  .. some things indicate likely foul play and some could well be failure



Back a ways in this thread you will see where I posted the auto-reports - They indicate fire, not explosion ... and from the cockpit area, so it's a long way from settled



I'm using my head to say this, not my gut  ac_smile

Quote from: "cc la femme"French ship detects signals from one of EgyptAir Flight 804's black boxes (//http)



French investigators confirmed Wednesday that one of its ships picked up signals under the Mediterranean Sea from one of the black boxes of the EgyptAir plane that crashed last month, killing all 66 passengers and crew on board.