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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 01:05:06 PM

Title: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 01:05:06 PM
QuoteQuebecor says its television network Sun News suffered a projected $17-million loss in 2012 and will continue to record unacceptable losses unless the federal regulator requires cable and satellite companies to carry it on their basic service.



The media giant says the current distribution agreements are inadequate to support the channel, which is only offered in 40 per cent of households.



It claims the addition of Sun News — dubbed "Fox News North" by its critics — to the basic service would be "negligible" to consumers, adding only $2.16 annually to each household — $1.08 per Francophone household — if the costs are passed on to subscribers.



The CRTC approved a five-year licence for the channel in November 2010 after Quebecor dropped its request for a special licence that would have required cable and satellite carriers to offer the service.



//http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/21/sun-news-loss-crtc-basic-cable_n_2522396.html

Too funny. What happened to letting the market decide? What happened to big, evil government staying out of things?



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Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 01:07:38 PM
QuoteSun News Network, Canada's upstart conservative-leaning news channel, is making what it calls a "do or die" application to the country's broadcast regulator for mandatory inclusion in basic cable packages, and is urging pro-life and pro-family advocates to get behind them.



"Sun News is the strongest voice for the pro-life cause on television in Canada. Bar none," Byline host Brian Lilley told LifeSiteNews. "We have Alissa Golob on the air, Stephanie Gray, Andrea Mrozek, Lila Rose and other pro-lifers. We've also given extensive coverage to the march."



"The CRTC has a very small window for Canadians to register their support or opposition to an application," Teneycke told LifeSiteNews. "In our case the public comment period closes on February 20th.  We need to demonstrate a groundswell of support for Sun News, and the readers of LifeSiteNews can help."



//http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sun-news-asks-pro-lifers-to-support-do-or-die-application-to-broadcast-regu/

Whoa. Wow.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2013, 01:12:36 PM
Seems like a reasonable request to me. Why souldn't they have the same market access as their competitors.



OTTAWA - Sun News Network has made what it calls a "do or die" application to the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to be put on basic cable, just like its main competitors.



"We are asking for the same type of licence that CTV and CBC had for 13 and 21 years respectively for their news channels," said Kory Teneycke, vice-president of Sun News. "We think this is a reasonable request and that it is in the interests of all Canadians."



Teneycke said Sun News is only available in four out of 10 households right now, with some cable companies not carrying the channel at all.



"This is not right," he said. "Especially when these same cable providers are offering American cable news channels as a part of their basic package."



Sun News produces 96 hours per week of pure Canadian content.



If the CRTC grants Sun News the "mandatory distribution" it seeks, it would mean a financial boon for the channel.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Seems like a reasonable request to me. Why souldn't they have the same market access as their competitors.

That sounds reasonable at first, but Sun News isn't CBC or CTV. The agreement was that they would have five years to prove they could hold their own. It would be like the Georgia Straight having a cable channel and suddenly demanding government help to get on basic. The CRTC isn't supposed to let every two-bit media organization pretend they're one of the big boys. Sun News simply doesn't have the viewership.  



The beautiful irony is that Sun News is always droning on about letting the market decide and railing against government funding and interference. It seems their core ideology isn't working out too well and now they want to suckle the government teet.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Obvious Li on January 23, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
Homy Homy Homy...fair is fair..if you allow the govt. to subsidize the CBC/CTV anti conservative cabal....and force every canadian to get this propaganda piped into their living rooms.......then it stands to reason the rightish Sun News should have the right, at a minimum,  to allow every canadian access to their fair and balanced broadcasting as well...
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: cc on January 23, 2013, 02:10:47 PM
Strange (rolling eyes) but he couldn't see that (the obvious) before spouting that crap.



I'm sure Sun would prefer no govt funding for its competitors or anyone, but so long as the govt. continues to support these economically unviable entities to keep them going others need have a level playing field.



Truth is > Our pet does not like level playing fields. He prefers advantage to his ilk.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"Homy Homy Homy...fair is fair..

Well, well, well... look at who's suddenly a socialist.



The CBC should be completely defunded. The CTV shouldn't be subsidized. No media organization should see a dime of welfare from taxpayers.



Anybody can subscribe to the Sun News Network, right?



Letting the free market decide is best. Government should keep its nose out of business. At least that's what I heard on Sun News! hahahahahaha



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Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: cc on January 23, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
In your post above, you are an outright liar. OL was clear about level playing field, yet you come back with that lowlife hollow BS



Fact is the others [size=150]DO[/size] get subsidized making your words above ring embarrassingly hollow.



I guess "hollow" is just a way of life for you. Whatever you imagine works, eh?
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"In your post above, you are an outright liar. OL was clear about level playing field, yet you come back with that lowlife hollow BS



Fact is the others http://ezralevant.com/2011/09/time-for-the-cbc-to-leave-the.html[/url]

See? Sun and Ezra already have exactly what they want. A completely privately run corporation with absolutely no government interference.



Anybody can subscribe. If Sun News Network is successful according to free market values, the subscriptions and money would be rolling in.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 04:42:53 PM
QuoteSun News Network, that fearless foe of state subsidies for the CBC, wants you, Dear Television Viewer, to directly subsidize it to the tune of $18 million a year.



Have no doubt, that's just the beginning, but it would nicely cover losses the company says now amount to a modest $17 million a year -- hardly a corporate killer, one would think, but apparently enough to get Sun News queuing up at the public trough.



It turns out, as others have discovered before them (Ted Byfield, c'mon down!) that there's not much of a market in Canada for the kind of market fundamentalist pap Sun News peddles -- at least when consumers have the choice not to pay for it.



Given the opportunity to choose to watch Sun TV, viewers run away in droves. Now the so-called news channel, which disseminates anything but news, has gone with its grubby cap in hand to one of Levant's targets, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, to beg for the right to inject its poison directly into almost every Canadian home because it desperately needs the wholesale revenue that would then automatically flow back into its coffers.



Sun News and its separatist bosses at Quebecor Inc. want the CRTC to grant it "mandatory carriage," which means you can't keep it off your TV dial because it would be included in basic cable coverage everywhere in Canada. That way, I guess, it'll be easier for them to campaign against opposition parties led by committed federalists from Quebec, of which there will soon be two.



For its part, the company claims it has market research that shows viewers would watch its programs if only they knew where to find them. But this is highly suspect, since cable companies push packages that include the network and viewers aren't biting.



The subsidy Sun News Network is seeking now would add up to about $4 a year from all cable subscribers to directly subsidize hate and propaganda, but you can count on it that, in the manner of all their ilk, the corporation will soon be back at the well for more.



Regardless, according to the Globe and Mail, Sun News faces "stiff odds" in this effort, seeing as there are lots of other more credible and creditable broadcasters vying for the 10 channels that must be carried by all cable companies.



//http://www.firstperspective.ca/news/3098-sun-looks-for-public-subsidy
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2013, 06:15:15 PM
^That is a grossly anti-Sun biased editorial. I'm neither for nor against Sunmedia, but they are certainly justified in seeking a level playing field.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: cc on January 23, 2013, 07:12:15 PM
"level playing field" is NEVER what our copy / paste / post pet has in mind.



He always wants the deck loaded in favor of things like CBC / CTV that push his type agendas and will spend all day looking for material to deflect from the REAL issue and criticize "the other" side
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"^That is a grossly anti-Sun biased editorial. I'm neither for nor against Sunmedia, but they are certainly justified in seeking a level playing field.

Sun News thinks it's justified, but it's not. CBC and CTV are major national broadcast television networks whereas Sun News is just a specialty television channel. It would be like National Geographic or Disney requesting mandatory carriage, other than the fact that those channels are actually popular and successful.



Therein lies the real problem. Most specialty channels do well and make money. Why can't Sun News? Because barely anybody watches it. It's actually already on lots of cable tv tiers without subscription. I've got it. Giving it mandatory carriage isn't going to change anything. Nothing is going to stop it from being an unpopular money-loser. Sun News is grasping at the last straw, hoping things will magically turn around in its favour.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 23, 2013, 10:33:22 PM
Sun News isn't competition. CBC and CTV are highly watched major television networks. Sun News can't even compete with the BookTelevision channel.



A level playing field is for the big boys. Sun News doesn't have any game. The channel is already being shown on lots of cable across Canada. Plenty of people can watch it but barely anybody does.



It really has nothing to do with government favours and the competition. The Sun News channel is a losing business enterprise. It's been dead and losing money since the day it came onto the air.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: cc on January 24, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
I see. It's no threat, got it,  



yet you worry on & on & on & on about it .... look @ all the material you searched for in apparent desperation



caught by the old words / deeds thingy .... hmmmm
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 24, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Sun News is competing with 22 other Canadian channels to get on basic cable. It may make the cut, but don't assume it automatically deserves it. It's nothing like CBC or CTV. It's like comparing the Lingerie Football League to the CFL.


QuoteSun News Network is trying to force mandatory carriage on cable systems across the country -- despite objective facts (subscribers, ratings) that show that the channel has been a failure, including with its intended core audience.



I'm writing this with a bit of a heavy heart. As a supporter of diversity in (news) media, and sometime collaborator with Sun News Network, it pains me to write this, but I don't think that the CRTC should give in to this application for mandatory carriage.



Styling itself as a non-left-wing alternative to CBC or CTV, Quebecor, the owner of Sun News Network, moved heaven and earth to launch a third news network. But instead of catering to Canadian conservatives, the channel has over time come to adopt the rabid and extreme Tea Party conservatism/libertarianism from the U.S.



Many conservatives in Canada have been telling me that they no longer tune in to Sun News, because "this is Canada and not bloody America." The time of last year's presidential election in the U.S. was especially detrimental to Sun News, as its hosts embraced extremist Republican/Tea Party candidates, such as Rick Santorum. No Canadian conservative would ever support or vote for such people.



That Sun News now wants to rely on government to force its way into living rooms will surely make even more conservatives reach for the remote control. A news channel that purports to stand for small government and a free market economy cannot possibly use the government's shoehorn and still hope to be taken seriously.



Getting only around 16,000 viewers a minute is abysmal, even by today's standards. The channel is available to almost all Canadian cable and satellite viewers, and if it were any good, people would order it from their local provider in larger numbers. But as things stand, Sun News has reached its zenith, and mandatory carriage wouldn't change that. It would only increase the number of complaints from viewers to their providers and the CRTC over being forced to pay for a channel they didn't want.



Sun Newsers are currently bombarding the social media with pleas for help from their viewers, pointing out that the channel produces almost 100 per cent Canadian content. Wrong, the programs that air on Sun News are Canadian-produced, but feature mostly American (i.e., Tea Party) content. As already pointed out, this does not qualify as "Canadian content."



Saying that Sun News has failed is not to be taken as a sign that conservative news reporting and commentary can't succeed in Canada. In fact, Sun News' failure merely illustrates that extremist forms of what some Americans consider "conservatism" won't fly in Canada. That so few Canadians watch the channel proves that U.S.-style Tea Party and libertarian ideas are anathema to the vast majority of Canadians.



If it wants to have a shot at greater viewership, Sun News will have to look closely at what it means to be conservative in Canada, and then adapt its style accordingly. It will also mean cutting its ties with most of its current on-air talent (Michael Coren, Charles Adler and Ezra Levant), as they seem to live in a make-believe world where Canadian conservatives are all about Christian fundamentalism and actually care about abortion or guns more than about their next paycheque.



//http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/werner-patels/sun-news-crtc-application_b_2539621.html
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2013, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Sun News is 100% Canadian and produces 96 hours/week of original Canadian content. That's more than most basic cable channels.

 

What are they asking for? The same treatment that CBC News Network and CTV News Channel had when they started. Nothing more.

I read that it is less available than a number of American and foreign all-news channels. Some cable and satellite services don't even offer Sun News at all. Sun News is getting screwed.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on January 24, 2013, 10:40:31 PM
Perhaps we should consider a libertarian point of view.


QuoteSeptember 3, 2010



Sun TV News is not, nor has it ever, asked for "mandatory carriage" by cable or satellite companies.



As the critics correctly point out, this would be tantamount to a tax on everyone with cable or satellite service. It is what CBC News Network has, but not what we are asking for.



We are simply asking for the channel to be "offered" by the distributors. This is meant to allow any Canadian who wants to get the channel to be able to call their cable or satellite company and subscribe to it. It does not mean it is a part of the basic cable or satellite package, nor does it dictate what (if any) package it would be a part of. We believe those should be private negotiations between Sun TV News and each individual cable and satellite provider.



If the so-called journalists and commentators writing on this issue had read our application they would have seen we project 17% market penetration in year one, growing to 45% in year five.



- Kory Teneycke, vice-president of Sun News Network



//http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/2010/09/02/15230201.html

Sun News Network currently has 40% market penetration.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Frost on January 25, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
It's not my country, or news, but Sun, and the rest shouldn't be getting Government money.

The should swim, or sick every one of them, if not they are as good as Pravda under state control, or the other way around.

They should make bids to be on a network, and let the ratings decide.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: cc on January 28, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: "Blue"It's not my country, or news, but Sun, and the rest shouldn't be getting Government money.

The should swim, or sick every one of them, if not they are as good as Pravda under state control, or the other way around.

They should make bids to be on a network, and let the ratings decide.

Hey Bluey.



I agree that no network should get anything from the govt. However, some DO. When some do, then the govt' becomes obligated ethically  to be equally fair to others.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on March 20, 2013, 03:23:02 PM
QuoteEzra Levant Apologizes For Roma Comments



The Sun News personality known for being unapologetic has apologized for comments he made about the Roma.



Ezra Levant took to the air to say he's sorry for comments made during an episode of his Sun News Network show The Source from last September, in which he attacked the Roma people and broadly categorized them as criminals and refugee system cheats.



The segment was about a crime ring of recent Romanian immigrants busted by Durham Regional Police, but Levant's report turned into a rant against Romanian immigrants in general and made liberal use of the the word "gyspy," a term considered derogatory.



"These are gypsies, a culture synonymous with swindlers. The phrase gypsy and cheater have been so interchangeable historically that the word has entered the English language as a verb: he gypped me. Well the gypsies have gypped us," Levant said in the broadcast titled "The Jew vs. the Gypsies."



Numerous complaints were sent to both Sun News and the Canadian Radio-television Telecommunications Commission and a hate crime investigation was launched by Toronto Police at the behest of the The Roma Community Centre, reports J-Source.



Levant acknowledged that backlash today in his apology:



"There were some criticisms after that show, but I dismissed them as coming from the usual soft-on-crime liberals and grievance groups. But when I look at some of the words I used in that show — like "the gypsies have gypped us" — I must admit that I did more than just attack a crime or immigration fraud problem," said Levant.



"I attacked a particular group, and painted them all with the same brush. And to those I hurt, I'm sorry."



Sun News apologized for the segment last year and removed the clip from their website. Levant didn't mention why he chose to apologize now for the seven-month old comments, but Sun News Network is currently trying to woo the CRTC into granting them status as a mandatory carriage TV station.



"There's nothing wrong with going after a criminal gang," he said. "But it's wrong to brand an entire community with a broad brush - I wouldn't like it as a Jew, and the whole point of my crusade against the Indian Act is to free ordinary Indians from the corrupt chiefs who rule them. I am an anti-racism activist."



//http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/03/18/ezra-levant-roma-apology-_n_2903534.html
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on February 24, 2015, 03:17:33 PM
QuoteSun News Burned by Changing Broadcasting Climate



The abrupt end of the Sun News Network -- its owners pulled the plug on the all-news channel without warning earlier this month -- sparked considerable commentary, with many lamenting the lost jobs, others examining the quality of the content, and some celebrating the end of a service that was controversial from the moment it launched. Largely left unsaid, however, is that its demise signals the beginning of a new era in Canadian broadcasting in which services are allowed to fail rather than being propped up through regulatory or government support.



Mandatory carriage is the best-known support mechanism. The regulatory equivalent of a winning lottery ticket, inclusion on the list of "must carry" services guarantees subscription payments from all cable and satellite subscribers. The Sun News Network applied for mandatory carriage, but the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission rejected its request along with virtually all other applications for the privileged status.



Without regulations to stop the practice, broadcast distributors bundle services together, forcing consumers to buy packages of channels featuring ones they do not want along with ones they do. Some channels included in popular packages generate subscription revenue despite having low ratings and limited interest from viewers.



The Sun News Network understandably hoped to cash in on this system, but its launch coincided with the gradual unraveling of Canadian broadcast regulation.



//http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2015/02/24/Changing-Canadian-Broadcasting-Climate/

Oh the sweet, sweet irony. Sun News begged for the very government support and regulation it always railed against, yet its downfall was the free market. Funny how the free market prefers The Tyee!



I will miss Ezra Levant's constant apologies.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
A TIDES stooge free market?? A money-laundering stooge of TIDES is a model of business transparency and open markets.  ac_toofunny  ac_lmfao
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Romero on October 20, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
QuoteEzra Levant's The Rebel wants PM's help



Ezra Levant is hoping Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will go to bat for his conservative online publication The Rebel, after he says it was barred from a United Nations climate conference.



Levant says The Rebel applied for credentials for three journalists to attend the UN climate conference known as COP22 in Marrakech, Morocco, in November.



Nicholas Nuttall, a spokesman for the UN Framework Convention on Climate Conference, said the organization tries hard to make sure those who get accreditation are genuine media rather than advocacy groups or non-governmental organizations pretending they're media.



"We had never heard of Rebel Media before but we looked at their website and, to be honest, they seemed to be in the bracket of being something of a one person band, espousing an individual's view of the world, rather than being a serious media operation," Nuttall said in an email.



"Some of the headlines seemed to verge on extremism as well."



//http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ezra-levant-climate-conference-accreditation-1.3809345
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Bricktop on October 20, 2016, 11:49:56 PM
I've checked out their website.



It is unashamedly conservative/right wing.



But "extremism"?? I see no incitement to violence, insurrection, or revolution.



I see no advocacy for terrorism, racism, sexism or homophobia.



All I see is counterviews to leftist ideology. That is NOT extremism.



However, as the left uses its influence to stifle opposition, it will create extremism. Remember, putting gas under extreme pressure generates explosive heat.
Title: Re: Sun News: Gov't Regulators, We Need Your Help
Post by: Annie on October 22, 2016, 02:12:06 AM
Hi Romero  :JC_howdy: