I like the forum drama! I do!
However, I should take credit for this post here:
In my private convo with RW, I was the one that called Eves a "Loopy Cunt," which she is.
RW was just parroting a term that originated from me.
Now, here's how it works...
I love the forum drama! I make no friends here, nor there, and I wouldn't want it any other way!
Mimi and Eves stuck their fucking snouts into DV... Which caused a problem...
Vin was a fucking idiot. Mikey would have told those two hags to go fuck themselves.
What kind of forum do you want to run? The choice is not mine...
Okay Mel.....that's enough....you were playing nice for a while now you crossed the line again.
Lay off the sauce FFS. Get a hobby to pass the time and stop being a douche.
Here here! Get a life Mel!
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RW was just parroting a term that originated from me.
Where was I when this conversation happened? I can't seem to find you calling her a loopy cunt in my records.
She is though. It's fun watching the decent folk chew off their limbs to get the fuck away from her. It's even more fun to know Dinky is giving it to her haha.
Wheeeeee!
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RW was just parroting a term that originated from me.
Where was I when this conversation happened? I can't seem to find you calling her a loopy cunt in my records.
She is though. It's fun watching the decent folk chew off their limbs to get the fuck away from her. It's even more fun to know Dinky is giving it to her haha.
Wheeeeee!
I haven't checked the Dinky Freud show on VF in a while, but I think I can imagine what is going on.
He's taking her and that board down. Mark my words.
I really don't care what Dinky dog shit is doing or saying on VF.
Whatever that thing does over "there", needs to stay over "there". Butt hurt bitching from losers like that Dinky creature should not be welcome here; especially when it's dragged thru the door by a pot stirring doofus like Smell the Mel.
Mel will stir the pot here as well and try to suck us into their drama. I'm going to have to watch my ass.
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RW was just parroting a term that originated from me.
So it was you who gave Shakespeare his lines. I always suspected that it was "all about me" behind it all
Who wooda thot there was more than dumping gravel, whining about Ex's and burning rubber marks on pavement?
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It was a few nights ago, when we exchanged a few PM's.
However, you can take full credit if you want, RW. That's OK with me!
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Yes, and I'm a real woman.
Yes, I make everything up that I post here...
Well, yeah, we know that already.
Post your shit!
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I will! I'm gonna cruise the convert here in a few, and then post some pics!
I just wanna make sure that's allowed here!
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It was a few nights ago, when we exchanged a few PM's.
However, you can take full credit if you want, RW. That's OK with me!
No record of such a thing Mel. Sorry.
Mel's notorious for his absolute refusal to exchange PMs with anyone.
Ooops. My bad. He did say it.
Either way, it's still true.
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Whatever that thing does over "there", needs to stay over "there". Butt hurt bitching from losers like that Dinky creature should not be welcome here; especially when it's dragged thru the door by a pot stirring doofus like Smell the Mel.
I too cannot give two fucks what bullshit Freud the bullshitter is posting anywhere.
Oh Herman! You crack me up!
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Vin was a fucking idiot. Mikey would have told those two hags to go fuck themselves.
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I think what they've got over at memebee is one big CLIQUE.
Say somethin which 'offends' one, and 6 others come out of the woodwork and attack you.
And lately, evs has begun ta lose it. She gets upset over silliest things - ie - that one of Bill Cosby's ex girlfriends was ugly & undesireable. Oh ffs. A comment about someone she doesn't have anything to do with and she gets upset?! Unbelievable.
Awww that's so sad to hear.
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Well there is a bit of a clique here too, but its not as pronounced as that one.
Anyways Mel is right. Evs should take a break from her own forum for a bit and refresh herself, get some new ideas, smell the roses!
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Vin was a fucking idiot. Mikey would have told those two hags to go fuck themselves.
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I think what they've got over at memebee is one big CLIQUE.
Say somethin which 'offends' one, and 6 others come out of the woodwork and attack you.
And lately, evs has begun ta lose it. She gets upset over silliest things - ie - that one of Bill Cosby's ex girlfriends was ugly & undesireable. Oh ffs. A comment about someone she doesn't have anything to do with and she gets upset?! Unbelievable.
I do not know evs, but from what I have heard it seems she might be bipolar.
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Well there is a bit of a clique here too, but its not as pronounced as that one.
Anyways Mel is right. Evs should take a break from her own forum for a bit and refresh herself, get some new ideas, smell the roses!
And Renee's right - no fucks given.
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Either way, it's still true.
Thank you.
I'm really quite tired of people making up things which did or didn't happen... Things I did or did not say...
My brain works quite well, and it makes me question my own sanity when what I believe to be true, is insisted upon me to not have ever happened.
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Well there is a bit of a clique here too, but its not as pronounced as that one.
Anyways Mel is right. Evs should take a break from her own forum for a bit and refresh herself, get some new ideas, smell the roses!
Not for nothing BUT.......
This place would be well served, if everyone just stopped talking about that disturbed Serb and her pack of dribbling sycophantic morons,......it's fucking nauseating.
Yes!! It would be good to just ignore. Works 4 me
It can't ever stop, Renee... Many posters here "cross-post," or at least have at one point in time... As long as both forums are active, there will always be some drama.
The only way to ensure that the drama would end completely, is for one or the other forum to go kaput.
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Say somethin which 'offends' one, and 6 others come out of the woodwork and attack you.
And lately, evs has begun ta lose it. She gets upset over silliest things - ie - that one of Bill Cosby's ex girlfriends was ugly & undesireable. Oh ffs. A comment about someone she doesn't have anything to do with and she gets upset?! Unbelievable.
You are absolutely correct, Joe. That's exactly what's happening.
Eves had a meltdown once before, but she stepped aside for a time... The problem was, her fill-in wasn't much better.
It is a clique. That's why some get away with murder, and others get banned for looking the wrong way...
When I modded DV, one of the most frustrating things to deal with was biased modding... I had to bite my fucking lip plenty of times, since you cannot tell your co-mods to go fuck themselves...
It was frustrating... The only way to reduce this frustration is to have a clear set of rules, that all enforce equally, and any Mod that cannot do so gets turfed... The problem is, like you've mentioned, Mods often "stick together" in a clique-like setting, so simply enforcing the rules and tossing out problem Mods isn't just that easy.
This is
See Mel is trying to bring cross forum drama to our neck of the woods since he can't torture them with this shit anymore.
No fucks given Mel. Seriously.
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No fucks given Mel. Seriously.
Don't even start with me! I'm simply stating that there will always be drama as long as both forums are alive!
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The only way to ensure that the drama would end completely, is for one or the other forum to go kaput.
Yes it can stop......everyone needs to take several steps back and let it die the death it deserves. Even if one side puts the drama on the "pay no mind" list, it will be a huge improvement.
People like you need to recognize that bringing crap from one forum to another is a no-no and in my opinion, it should be a grounds for banning especially in cases of chronic pot stirring. That is how it can be nipped in the bud.
So dont give me this crap that it has to take the demise of one of the forums. Remember Mel, there are people here ac_hithere. who can MAKE it stop if they so wish......but it is always a better option to allow people to take the initiative and do it on their own. We all have that ability....its a matter of "want" and therein lies the problem.
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No fucks given Mel. Seriously.
Don't even start with me! I'm simply stating that there will always be drama as long as both forums are alive!
I didn't start. I just finished. Shut your fucking mouth.
Capisce?
This is the problem with modern Western women... They're so very "uppity" these days!
Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
She should really get out more, but I'm not sure if they're financially sound enough to hire a truck & crane...
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Whatever that thing does over "there", needs to stay over "there". Butt hurt bitching from losers like that Dinky creature should not be welcome here; especially when it's dragged thru the door by a pot stirring doofus like Smell the Mel.
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yeah, come to think of it, Dinky often does moan about the royal treatment given to him/her/it by yourselves when he/she/it was shown the way to door. Its as if Dinky actually misses this place. Anyways, Dinky is now the VF's property. Evs has taken him/her/it in and accepted Dinky as her very own. In other words, dinky has been adopted by VF since being orphaned by the blue shoe.
Tell you the truth, I didn't really care if Dinky posted here. Didn't offend me, but then I don't own this site or mod it. He/She/It clearly offended somebody, the sensibilities of many women here by trying to pass off as one.
Still, I don't think Dinky would be a major problem if isolated to a sticky thread in the reject rodeo. But again, not my forum, so not for me ta say.
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
Where's the lol smiley? How else is a person supposed to know you told a joke? ac_boring
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Whatever that thing does over "there", needs to stay over "there". Butt hurt bitching from losers like that Dinky creature should not be welcome here; especially when it's dragged thru the door by a pot stirring doofus like Smell the Mel.
:laugh:
yeah, come to think of it, Dinky often does moan about the royal treatment given to him/her/it by yourselves when he/she/it was shown the way to door. Its as if Dinky actually misses this place. Anyways, Dinky is now the VF's property now. Evs has taken him/her/it in and accepted Dinky as her very own now. In other words, dinky has been adopted by VF since being orphaned by the blue shoe.
Tell you the truth, I didn't really care if Dinky posted here. Didn't offend me, but then I don't own this site or mod it. He/She/It clearly offended somebody, the sensibilities of many women here by trying to pass off as one.
Still, I don't think Dinky would be a major problem if isolated to a sticky thread in the reject rodeo. But again, not my forum, so not for me ta say.
He misses me Joe. One chat and he was hooked.
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
You dont know from uppity.......if western women were really uppity, you would be bleeding from more than just your poor abused asshole. :laugh3:
I don't know why some people think it's funny to even pseudo-stalk someone.
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I don't know why some people have absolutely zero sense of humour. I feel for the poor men that they are married to... Must be like a death sentence for them.
Why is it funny to joke about stalking someone?
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Who's getting stalked?
Now, I'm only going to state this once, just so everyone is crystal fucking clear:
Taking a picture of a random T-Bird at White Rock (not her car, since she described what hers looks like), posting the image of a random T-Bird, along with a complete BS story about CC and I going out for fish & chips at Moby Dick's, does not, and I repeat, does not fall under any known definition of stalking. It doesn't even come remotely close.
Now, just because she lost her shit, and is threatening my life, does not give you, or anyone else, the right to even think you are in a position to re-write the definition of stalking.
Read this properly^^^, since I'm not going to post it again.
And as a side note, the only poster here that should be concerned about their actions, is CC. It seems that she, along with most of the other idiots here, fail to see that her actually threatening my life could be the only real issue here, and that is her issue, not mine.
Stalker.
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Whatever that thing does over "there", needs to stay over "there". Butt hurt bitching from losers like that Dinky creature should not be welcome here; especially when it's dragged thru the door by a pot stirring doofus like Smell the Mel.
:laugh:
yeah, come to think of it, Dinky often does moan about the royal treatment given to him/her/it by yourselves when he/she/it was shown the way to door. Its as if Dinky actually misses this place. Anyways, Dinky is now the VF's property. Evs has taken him/her/it in and accepted Dinky as her very own. In other words, dinky has been adopted by VF since being orphaned by the blue shoe.
Tell you the truth, I didn't really care if Dinky posted here. Didn't offend me, but then I don't own this site or mod it. He/She/It clearly offended somebody, the sensibilities of many women here by trying to pass off as one.
Still, I don't think Dinky would be a major problem if isolated to a sticky thread in the reject rodeo. But again, not my forum, so not for me ta say.
Freud was not shit canned because he is on every single forum with a suitcase full of alts. Freud was not sent packing because he likes to pretend he has a vagina.
That's not why at all.
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Funniest part is that Dinky could not describe its parts, had to be corrected several times about their function by other women who post here. Too funny to be outted like that. Whatta bozo.
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Oh I know. The curiosity got to me and I messaged someone about why Freud was perma banned. The right decision was made. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
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Funniest part is that Dinky could not describe its parts, had to be corrected several times about their function by other women who post here. Too funny to be outted like that. Whatta bozo.
He is well known by some posters on here. Apparently he has been doing this shit for ages.
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Oh I know. The curiosity got to me and I messaged someone about why Freud was perma banned. The right decision was made. :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Thanks.
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....so can you elaborate as to what were the reasons and why?
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If you told me you drive a Nissan sedan, and I take a pic of a Nissan sedan, or even just grab a random one off the netz...
If I do this, post this image, and write up a BS story about how you and I had fish together, or whatever the fuck the story was...
You'd probably tell me to troll harder next time.
What I see here, is that CC is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic. We must now bear that in mind going forward, when dealing with her.
What I also see, is that since she cried like a little baby, even going so far as to claim that she can never go to White Rock again, all you fags and hags come running to be her fucking saviour or something.
Take a step back, and use your fucking brains to determine context, before adopting a cliquey/herd mentality, where the whole pack (including yourself), blows things out of proportion because you aren't smart enough to analyze the facts that are right in front of your fucking eyes. Do you have eyes? Can you read? If so, the facts are right in front of your fucking face!
LOLZORS! The day CC completely lost her shit! LOLZORS!
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....so can you elaborate as to what were the reasons and why?
No.
If only his damn voice changer kept working!
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If you told me you drive a Nissan sedan, and I take a pic of a Nissan sedan, or even just grab a random one off the netz...
If I do this, post this image, and write up a BS story about how you and I had fish together, or whatever the fuck the story was...
You'd probably tell me to troll harder next time.
What I see here, is that CC is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic. We must now bear that in mind going forward, when dealing with her.
What I also see, is that since she cried like a little baby, even going so far as to claim that she can never go to White Rock again, all you fags and hags come running to be her fucking saviour or something.
Take a step back, and use your fucking brains to determine context, before adopting a cliquey/herd mentality, where the whole pack (including yourself), blows things out of proportion because you aren't smart enough to analyze the facts that are right in front of your fucking eyes. Do you have eyes? Can you read? If so, the facts are right in front of your fucking face!
LOLZORS! The day CC completely lost her shit! LOLZORS!
Give it a fuckin rest already. Jesus Christ. :001_rolleyes:
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I heard about that one. What a weird guy Freud is.
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Tell the others (like RW) to give it a fucking rest. I'm just replying to their posts...
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That's back when RW made it a requirement to Skype with her, if they wanted to be in the "cool kidz" club.
Perhaps I should get a voice changer, proxy up, re-register, and come back as a female? The lolzors would be aplenty if I could pull it off.
I'd just need a quality voice changer that wouldn't break.
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That's back when RW made it a requirement to Skype with her, if they wanted to be in the "cool kidz" club.
Perhaps I should get a voice changer, proxy up, re-register, and come back as a female? The lolzors would be aplenty if I could pull it off.
I'd just need a quality voice changer that wouldn't break.
That was only on the group call he used a voice changer. He requested another Skype just with RW and he used his real voice. He's addicted to internet trolling and forum sabotage.
Too bad nobody recorded the Skype sessions... That would have been good for the lolzors!
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That's back when RW made it a requirement to Skype with her, if they wanted to be in the "cool kidz" club.
Perhaps I should get a voice changer, proxy up, re-register, and come back as a female? The lolzors would be aplenty if I could pull it off.
I'd just need a quality voice changer that wouldn't break.
It was never a "requirement", you drunken halfwit.
Stop bullshitting about stuff you know fuck all about.
Skype was Mr Crowley's idea, not mine Mel. I am a supporter of ideas and participated in making it happen.
I came out of the conversation with a sore stomach from laughing so hard. It was something that was fun, not forced.
But hey, enjoy making up bullshit rumours and trying to wreck this place like you did VF.
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
Where's the lol smiley? How else is a person supposed to know you told a joke? ac_boring
Here's another one in the old fossils clique, dont you share the same retirement home as semen? Make sure you get that comfy chair by the window for your afternoon nap, as I know Semen likes to get there before you. :laugh:
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Wreck this place?
Bitch pleaze... The Retard Rodeo was essentially created for me and people of my ilk!
The fact that is has more traffic than the main board a coincidence? Biatch, pleeze...
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Wreck this place?
Bitch pleaze... The Retard Rodeo was essentially created for me and people of my ilk!
The fact that is has more traffic than the main board a coincidence? Biatch, pleeze...
Don't hurt yourself patting your self on the bact, Mel.
You're simply the flavor of the week. The novelty of YOU will wear thin soon enough.
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Wreck this place?
Bitch pleaze... The Retard Rodeo was essentially created for me and people of my ilk!
The fact that is has more traffic than the main board a coincidence? Biatch, pleeze...
Don't hurt yourself patting your self on the bact, Mel.
You're simply the flavor of the week. The novelty of YOU will wear thin soon enough.
For me, that novelty is well on its way out. It's being replaced by a sinking, sickening feelings.
Uggggg.
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Those are the butterflies in your stomach. My charm is finally starting to work!
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
Where's the lol smiley? How else is a person supposed to know you told a joke? ac_boring
Here's another one in the old fossils clique, dont you share the same retirement home as semen? Make sure you get that comfy chair by the window for your afternoon nap, as I know Semen likes to get there before you. :laugh:
Jock is not much older than you I think. Biologically of course. Mentally you are sexually confused thirteen year old. Speaking of which, where are your little bum chums Irish Kum and those other boring queers.?Lovers quarrel?
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
Where's the lol smiley? How else is a person supposed to know you told a joke? ac_boring
Here's another one in the old fossils clique, dont you share the same retirement home as semen? Make sure you get that comfy chair by the window for your afternoon nap, as I know Semen likes to get there before you. :laugh:
Jock is not much older than you I think. Biologically of course. Mentally you are sexually confused thirteen year old. Speaking of which, where are your little bum chums Irish Kum and those other boring queers.?Lovers quarrel?
On VF I think...... want me to invite them over so they can torment your senile old ass aswell?
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Back in the good old days, they would think twice about even leaving the kitchen, but these days? Sheesh! ac_razz ac_razz ac_razz
Renee rarely leaves the kitchen, but preparing food for other people is a rarity.
Where's the lol smiley? How else is a person supposed to know you told a joke? ac_boring
Here's another one in the old fossils clique, dont you share the same retirement home as semen? Make sure you get that comfy chair by the window for your afternoon nap, as I know Semen likes to get there before you. :laugh:
Jock is not much older than you I think. Biologically of course. Mentally you are sexually confused thirteen year old. Speaking of which, where are your little bum chums Irish Kum and those other boring queers.?Lovers quarrel?
On VF I think...... want me to invite them over so they can torment your senile old ass aswell?
You or your little 45 year old teenaged friends torment anyone :roll:
Finallly, after countless attempts you finally said something worthy of an lol. ac_toofunny
Dont laugh too hard gramps, those adult nappies aren't cheap...
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How would you know? Do you need them?
Semen's always complaining about how much they cost..... you know what Jews are like with their shekels.
SCOUSE! Stop making me laugh. It makes me feel guilty.
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Seriously :confused1:
Oh I get it,..... it's been so long......When you're stoned even really stupid shit can seem funny. :laugh3:
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Yay I made you laugh, so surely that means I'm up for parole soon ? ac_dunno
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Yay I made you laugh, so surely that means I'm up for parole soon ? ac_dunno
That's out of my hands dear man.
But I thought you was da bawwse? :sneaky2:
Fashionita will never approve my release into gen pop. :negative:
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Fashionita will never approve my release into gen pop. :negative:
In hindsight I guess the "mail order bride" and the "granny" comments dont look too clever now....do they? ac_biggrin
Do yourself a favor and go back to whatever Special Ed group home you came from and take your mouth breathing cousin, 20 Nickels with you.
I'm not gonna kiss someone's ass just because they're a mod, not my style.
If she refuses to let me have access to the entire board then so be it. I will respect her decision and move on.
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If she refuses to let me have access to the entire board then so be it. I will respect her decision and move on.
Fair enough.
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Fashionita will never approve my release into gen pop. :negative:
In hindsight I guess the "mail order bride" and the "granny" comments dont look too clever now....do they? ac_biggrin
Do yourself a favor and go back to whatever Special Ed group home you came from and take your mouth breathing cousin, 20 Nickels with you.
Hardly a surprise BF forum is toast.
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Seriously :confused1:
Oh I get it,..... it's been so long......When you're stoned even really stupid shit can seem funny. :laugh3:
I should start smoking pot again if I am to keep reading RR.
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Seriously :confused1:
Oh I get it,..... it's been so long......When you're stoned even really stupid shit can seem funny. :laugh3:
I should start smoking pot again if I am to keep reading RR.
Can't hurt.
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Fashionita will never approve my release into gen pop. :negative:
Nah. The pay was the shits.
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:001_rolleyes:
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Fashionita will never approve my release into gen pop. :negative:
In hindsight I guess the "mail order bride" and the "granny" comments dont look too clever now....do they? ac_biggrin
Do yourself a favor and go back to whatever Special Ed group home you came from and take your mouth breathing cousin, 20 Nickels with you.
I think reject rodeo provides enough room for SCOUSE's repetitive "humour."
I wish you'd lighten up occasionally :sneaky2:
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I am light and you will remain here at the kiddie table for now.