...I pissed the god damned bed again, and vinegar should work to clean/deodorize the mattress.
Lately I am starting to get concerned about myself. The alcohol consumption is causing physical problems... I have a hard time eating much of anything, and even drinking makes me sick, but eventually I consume enough to get "past that point."
I consume much more now, just to get a buzz, than I ever needed to.
I feel lazy, and seem to sweat a lot more now. I find it hard to get anything done. Even simple things are a real chore... An annoyance.
I know if I keep this up, I'll have a problem.
I don't shit properly, I don't eat properly, and I don't sleep properly. I have essentially isolated myself, and am slowly destroying myself.
I am doing exactly what my Mother did.
I put on a different persona in public, and with people that I know, as I can pull it off well enough, but right now I am worried...
I can only post my shit on anonymous forums, since Facebook is just shit, for a variety of reasons!
The divorce, and then the deaths of both my parents, have put me into a shitty place. However, I also understand that I could be potentially using these situations as a reason to justify what I'm doing... In fact, I'm smart enough to know that I probably am.
Anyhow... I don't want to interact with anyone... I just want to post my shit, as sometimes the anon boards are a good way to do just this...
Yeah after a good bender it might be hard to eat anything... Or drink anything.
Quote from: "smell the glove"
...I pissed the god damned bed again, and vinegar should work to clean/deodorize the mattress.
Lately I am starting to get concerned about myself. The alcohol consumption is causing physical problems... I have a hard time eating much of anything, and even drinking makes me sick, but eventually I consume enough to get "past that point."
I consume much more now, just to get a buzz, than I ever needed to.
I feel lazy, and seem to sweat a lot more now. I find it hard to get anything done. Even simple things are a real chore... An annoyance.
I know if I keep this up, I'll have a problem.
I don't shit properly, I don't eat properly, and I don't sleep properly. I have essentially isolated myself, and am slowly destroying myself.
I am doing exactly what my Mother did.
I put on a different persona in public, and with people that I know, as I can pull it off well enough, but right now I am worried...
I can only post my shit on anonymous forums, since Facebook is just shit, for a variety of reasons!
The divorce, and then the deaths of both my parents, have put me into a shitty place. However, I also understand that I could be potentially using these situations as a reason to justify what I'm doing... In fact, I'm smart enough to know that I probably am.
Anyhow... I don't want to interact with anyone... I just want to post my shit, as sometimes the anon boards are a good way to do just this...
Have you tried to stop or at least control your alcohol consumption?
How often do you drink?
Do you always drink alone?
I'm on my twelfth beer now, and I am just starting to feel OK.
It's six in the fucking morning now...
I have a fucking problem.
I do this day after day. I need to stop.
I am not a bad guy, but I have a problem I need to deal with now...
Hope it gets better for ya... Seriously.
I'd go the doctors mate, you are most likely depressed, they will be able to advise you and help steer you in the right direction.
I wouldn't wish my problems on anyone else. My parents both died young from doing the same thing thing. I also learned that behaviour from them... Neither of them could parent.
I feel that I am capable of more...
Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm on my twelfth beer now, and I am just starting to feel OK.
It's six in the fucking morning now...
I have a fucking problem.
I do this day after day. I need to stop.
I am not a bad guy, but I have a problem I need to deal with now...
There is another poster on this board that was an alcoholic for many years too..
He has been sober now for over a decade..
I won't mention his name, but if he sees this, I hope he shares how he quit drinking..
I hope you are able to overcome this smell the glove.
I have never pissed myself..
Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm on my twelfth beer now, and I am just starting to feel OK.
It's six in the fucking morning now...
I have a fucking problem.
I do this day after day. I need to stop.
I am not a bad guy, but I have a problem I need to deal with now...
Tolerance grows...
You havent even started to drink hard liquor yet... You are good..
Quote from: "smell the glove"
...I pissed the god damned bed again, and vinegar should work to clean/deodorize the mattress.
Lately I am starting to get concerned about myself. The alcohol consumption is causing physical problems... I have a hard time eating much of anything, and even drinking makes me sick, but eventually I consume enough to get "past that point."
I consume much more now, just to get a buzz, than I ever needed to.
I feel lazy, and seem to sweat a lot more now. I find it hard to get anything done. Even simple things are a real chore... An annoyance.
I know if I keep this up, I'll have a problem.
I don't shit properly, I don't eat properly, and I don't sleep properly. I have essentially isolated myself, and am slowly destroying myself.
I am doing exactly what my Mother did.
I put on a different persona in public, and with people that I know, as I can pull it off well enough, but right now I am worried...
I can only post my shit on anonymous forums, since Facebook is just shit, for a variety of reasons!
The divorce, and then the deaths of both my parents, have put me into a shitty place. However, I also understand that I could be potentially using these situations as a reason to justify what I'm doing... In fact, I'm smart enough to know that I probably am.
Anyhow... I don't want to interact with anyone... I just want to post my shit, as sometimes the anon boards are a good way to do just this...
I know exactly what you are going thtough. I am the former alcoholic Fash was talking about. My abuse of alcohol started when I entered university as a civil engineering student. Drinking caused me to drop out in the first year.
I got hired by CP when I was 20 and my descent into problem drinking worsened. When I was not doing trips as a conductor back then, I was drinking Wiser's or Canadian Club.
I experienced the same symptoms you did including sweating and poor sleep. I could go a few days without drinking, but when I did I drank until blacking out.
Twelve years ago I woke up from three day bender with pain where my liver is. It was time to give it up. I think you recognize it's time to sign off on booze too.
It's not easy and I fell off the wagon twice in the first few months. But, it is so liberating to be free of the bondage of alcohol addiction.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "smell the glove"
...I pissed the god damned bed again, and vinegar should work to clean/deodorize the mattress.
Lately I am starting to get concerned about myself. The alcohol consumption is causing physical problems... I have a hard time eating much of anything, and even drinking makes me sick, but eventually I consume enough to get "past that point."
I consume much more now, just to get a buzz, than I ever needed to.
I feel lazy, and seem to sweat a lot more now. I find it hard to get anything done. Even simple things are a real chore... An annoyance.
I know if I keep this up, I'll have a problem.
I don't shit properly, I don't eat properly, and I don't sleep properly. I have essentially isolated myself, and am slowly destroying myself.
I am doing exactly what my Mother did.
I put on a different persona in public, and with people that I know, as I can pull it off well enough, but right now I am worried...
I can only post my shit on anonymous forums, since Facebook is just shit, for a variety of reasons!
The divorce, and then the deaths of both my parents, have put me into a shitty place. However, I also understand that I could be potentially using these situations as a reason to justify what I'm doing... In fact, I'm smart enough to know that I probably am.
Anyhow... I don't want to interact with anyone... I just want to post my shit, as sometimes the anon boards are a good way to do just this...
I know exactly what you are going thtough. I am the former alcoholic Fash was talking about. My abuse of alcohol started when I entered university as a civil engineering student. Drinking caused me to drop out in the first year.
I got hired by CP when I was 20 and my descent into problem drinking worsened. When I was not doing trips as a conductor back then, I was drinking Wiser's or Canadian Club.
I experienced the same symptoms you did including sweating and poor sleep. I could go a few days without drinking, but when I did I drank until blacking out.
Twelve years ago I woke up from three day bender with pain where my liver is. It was time to give it up. I think you recognize it's time to sign off on booze too.
It's not easy and I fell off the wagon twice in the first few months. But, it is so liberating to be free of the bondage of alcohol addiction.
I thank you for sharing your past personal battles with us iron horse jockey.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
I don't have an alcohol problem. I can sit down have a few drinks and the STOP! That's it....I know my limits & how to control my alcohol consumption. I've seen too many guys who've blown their paycheques which is essentially their livelihoods down the drain. I still drink a bit every week, but mainly for relaxation and pleasure, never to get intoxicated. My motto is "drink like a European" and not some dumb North American from places like Surrey, Biritsh Columbia.
Admittedly though, the combo I find quite deadly is alchohol and a room full of beautiful women. Before you know it, the money's all gone. Its like having an vacuum cleaner to yer wallet. So I dunno which is the cause of such cash drainage, the alcohol or the women. Its kinda like the puzzle, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "smell the glove"
...I pissed the god damned bed again, and vinegar should work to clean/deodorize the mattress.
Lately I am starting to get concerned about myself. The alcohol consumption is causing physical problems... I have a hard time eating much of anything, and even drinking makes me sick, but eventually I consume enough to get "past that point."
I consume much more now, just to get a buzz, than I ever needed to.
I feel lazy, and seem to sweat a lot more now. I find it hard to get anything done. Even simple things are a real chore... An annoyance.
I know if I keep this up, I'll have a problem.
I don't shit properly, I don't eat properly, and I don't sleep properly. I have essentially isolated myself, and am slowly destroying myself.
I am doing exactly what my Mother did.
I put on a different persona in public, and with people that I know, as I can pull it off well enough, but right now I am worried...
I can only post my shit on anonymous forums, since Facebook is just shit, for a variety of reasons!
The divorce, and then the deaths of both my parents, have put me into a shitty place. However, I also understand that I could be potentially using these situations as a reason to justify what I'm doing... In fact, I'm smart enough to know that I probably am.
Anyhow... I don't want to interact with anyone... I just want to post my shit, as sometimes the anon boards are a good way to do just this...
I know exactly what you are going thtough. I am the former alcoholic Fash was talking about. My abuse of alcohol started when I entered university as a civil engineering student. Drinking caused me to drop out in the first year.
I got hired by CP when I was 20 and my descent into problem drinking worsened. When I was not doing trips as a conductor back then, I was drinking Wiser's or Canadian Club.
I experienced the same symptoms you did including sweating and poor sleep. I could go a few days without drinking, but when I did I drank until blacking out.
Twelve years ago I woke up from three day bender with pain where my liver is. It was time to give it up. I think you recognize it's time to sign off on booze too.
It's not easy and I fell off the wagon twice in the first few months. But, it is so liberating to be free of the bondage of alcohol addiction.
Mel doesn't want help. He has been crying about self destruction since long before his parents died AND his divorce took place a year or more ago. time to get OVER IT. In fact he didn't even know when his divorce was final. He was so disconnected from the process that he left everything up to his ex-wife.
He is fishing for a sympathetic ear. He wants to be coddled. He wants someone to sit and cry in his beer with him. The best thing anyone can do for him is tell him to man-up and stop the bullshit. Mel is a poor excuse for a person and as long as I can remember, he always has been. Truth be told, he needs a good kick in the crotch.
BTW Mel, try Nature's Miracle" to get rid of the urine odor. It works for dog piss, so it will probably work for you. :oeudC:

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Mel doesn't want help. He has been crying about self destruction since long before his parents died AND his divorce took place a year or more ago. time to get OVER IT. In fact he didn't even know when his divorce was final. He was so disconnected from the process that he left everything up to his ex-wife.
He is fishing for a sympathetic ear. He wants to be coddled. He wants someone to sit and cry in his beer with him. The best thing anyone can do for him is tell him to man-up and stop the bullshit. Mel is a poor excuse for a person and as long as I can remember, he always has been. Truth be told, he needs a good kick in the crotch.
BTW Mel, try Nature's Miracle" to get rid of the urine odor. It works for dog piss, so it will probably work for you. :oeudC:

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I thought so, but gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Quote from: "JOE"
Admittedly though, the combo I find quite deadly is alchohol and a room full of beautiful women. Before you know it, the money's all gone. Its like having an vacuum cleaner to yer wallet. So I dunno which is the cause of such cash drainage, the alcohol or the women. Its kinda like the puzzle, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
I work with a femle version of you. She is nearly sixty snd she goes out to bars with guys 35 years or more her junior. Of course she gets attention from these guys when she is buying them drinks all night. Afterwards they are calling her a senile old fool just like young women are probably saying about you after you pay their bar tab.
Some people are so desperate for human interaction they will pay people to feign liking them.
This is not about you Joe
And thank you for your candor "Jock"ey. You have given mel some good real world experience to ponder.
Its weird when women buy you drinks...
I hope they understand that even though they offer me drinks, I dont owe them anything. *tears*
Quote from: "Renee"
Mel doesn't want help. He has been crying about self destruction since long before his parents died AND his divorce took place a year or more ago. time to get OVER IT. In fact he didn't even know when his divorce was final. He was so disconnected from the process that he left everything up to his ex-wife.
That's bullshit. My ex initiated the divorce, and it was her duty to inform me of the proceeding (as is required here).
She did not inform me of what was her legal responsibility, since she was, and still is, and unorganized twat that can't fill out a basic form of any type. She truly is a stunned cunt, pardon my French.
Only when I went to the courthouse (NOTHING can be done over the phone here), since too much time had passed, did the clerk explain things to me.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I know exactly what you are going thtough. I am the former alcoholic Fash was talking about. My abuse of alcohol started when I entered university as a civil engineering student. Drinking caused me to drop out in the first year.
I got hired by CP when I was 20 and my descent into problem drinking worsened. When I was not doing trips as a conductor back then, I was drinking Wiser's or Canadian Club.
I experienced the same symptoms you did including sweating and poor sleep. I could go a few days without drinking, but when I did I drank until blacking out.
Twelve years ago I woke up from three day bender with pain where my liver is. It was time to give it up. I think you recognize it's time to sign off on booze too.
It's not easy and I fell off the wagon twice in the first few months. But, it is so liberating to be free of the bondage of alcohol addiction.
I started drinking when I was 16. ALWAYS to excess... Just like some of my family members did.
However, I somehow managed to kind of keep things barely together, but just barely. Lost a few jobs, a few girlfriends, etc. Many regrets. A few minor legal issues that are now sealed.
It sucks... I like to drink. I just don't know when to stop. That has always been the problem.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Have you tried to stop or at least control your alcohol consumption?
Once I managed to stop for a few days, and I felt like shit. Been a consumer for 20 years, since my teens.
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How often do you drink?
Every day. Never in the morning though... Just in the evening.
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Do you always drink alone?
Mostly. A few years back, having a few drinks and driving wasn't as big of a deal as it is now... Still had a couple of run-ins with the law, but nothing major.
Now, with the new rules (I'm probably one of the last individuals in Canada that utilized, successfully, the Carter defense when it was still available), I have more to lose, and as such try to keep my drinking at home. This actually isn't a big problem for me to deal with, since my circle of friends is small, and always has been. I've always been kind of a "loner." I have a hard time making real "connections" with people, either sober or drunk. This is my fault, and not theirs.
Quote from: "smell the glove"
Quote from: "Renee"
Mel doesn't want help. He has been crying about self destruction since long before his parents died AND his divorce took place a year or more ago. time to get OVER IT. In fact he didn't even know when his divorce was final. He was so disconnected from the process that he left everything up to his ex-wife.
That's bullshit. My ex initiated the divorce, and it was her duty to inform me of the proceeding (as is required here).
She did not inform me of what was her legal responsibility, since she was, and still is, and unorganized twat that can't fill out a basic form of any type. She truly is a stunned cunt, pardon my French.
Only when I went to the courthouse (NOTHING can be done over the phone here), since too much time had passed, did the clerk explain things to me.
Well, she was obviously organized enough to file for divorce, see it through and kick your alcoholic ass to the curb.
Say what you will about her but she must have something going for her upstairs if she was able to recognize that she was hooked up with a loser.
Yes, Renee. I was also the one that paid for it, so I also expected some sort of paper trail...
I did pay for it, though, since she could not.
I am not an asshole. Any woman that wants to leave me, I will pay for that expense, which I did. I even set her up in a furnished (by me) apartment, which I did not have to do.
Quote from: "smell the glove"
Yes, Renee. I was also the one that paid for it, so I also expected some sort of paper trail...
I did pay for it, though, since she could not.
I am not an asshole. Any woman that wants to leave me, I will pay for that expense, which I did. I even set her up in a furnished (by me) apartment, which I did not have to do.
Well the "asshole" part is arguable. But what you definitely are is a "sucker".
Here's a bit of advice....if a woman wants to leave, let her do it on her own. Dont pay for her shit unless it's court ordered as in cases where children are involved. Have some dignity FFS.
If a woman wants to bail on a relationship and can't stand on her own two feet in the process, then she wasn't worth being with in the first place. But there is the catch 22......a strong independent woman wouldn't want anything to do with a train wreck like you.....so I guess you're kinda fucked.
Sound advice!
Quote from: "cc la femme"
This is not about you Joe
And thank you for your candor "Jock"ey. You have given mel some good real world experience to ponder.
Well it is about men in general, cc.
Some of us can control our liquor consumption.
Some can't.
I don't know why some guys can't control their liquor intake.
I have friends who are alcoholics, eh cc?
If I sit down with them, they start drinkin' offer me a beer.
By the time I finish one, they've finished 3.
And one evening with them, I drink 2 or 3 max.
They have 24, 36, 48. No shit man.
Cripes ifya drink with these guys, they'll drink you under the table.
Question is, why do they need to get sloshed to feel satisfied?
I don't. 2 or 3 is fine with me. That's it.
Worst part about these alkies is the conflict it creates in their relationships.
Just destroys marriages, etc. Their women are always upset with them.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "JOE"
Admittedly though, the combo I find quite deadly is alchohol and a room full of beautiful women. Before you know it, the money's all gone. Its like having an vacuum cleaner to yer wallet. So I dunno which is the cause of such cash drainage, the alcohol or the women. Its kinda like the puzzle, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
I work with a femle version of you. She is nearly sixty snd she goes out to bars with guys 35 years or more her junior. Of course she gets attention from these guys when she is buying them drinks all night. Afterwards they are calling her a senile old fool just like young women are probably saying about you after you pay their bar tab.
Some people are so desperate for human interaction they will pay people to feign liking them.
Joe is being played for a sucker by women one third his age. I have seen it a million times.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "JOE"
Admittedly though, the combo I find quite deadly is alchohol and a room full of beautiful women. Before you know it, the money's all gone. Its like having an vacuum cleaner to yer wallet. So I dunno which is the cause of such cash drainage, the alcohol or the women. Its kinda like the puzzle, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
I work with a femle version of you. She is nearly sixty snd she goes out to bars with guys 35 years or more her junior. Of course she gets attention from these guys when she is buying them drinks all night. Afterwards they are calling her a senile old fool just like young women are probably saying about you after you pay their bar tab.
Some people are so desperate for human interaction they will pay people to feign liking them.
Joe is being played for a sucker by women one third his age. I have seen it a million times.
Well Hermie, ya come across as a Modern Day Bluebeard, lockin' up yer Sweetie in some Saskatchewan Prairie Grain Elevator.

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I betcha don' even let 'er see the Light of Day, doya?
Personally, I think ya better keep 'er locked up there fer yer own good, Bud.
If she cam ta BC an' saw the West Coast, she might not wanna stay in that Icebox in Saskatchewan.
Better yet, keep 'er away from Ole Joe, cuz she might not come back ta ya after I show her a better time, Herm. :wink:
Herman keeps his teenage Thai bride locked away in his shed. He refuses to even let his son see her for fear that she'll prefer the young buck to the dirty old goat. :laugh3:
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Herman keeps his teenage Thai bride locked away in his shed. He refuses to even let his son see her for fear that she'll prefer the young buck to the dirty old goat. :laugh3:
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