Big Business & the IMF have warned about the implications of Britain leaving the EU should the Brexit side win the upcoming referendum late this month.
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
 ac_dunno
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
There could be some short term pain, but in the end Britain will still trade with Europe. Only after a yes vote they would regain border control.
			 
			
			
				Some possible implications for other EU nations if Britain decides to leave:

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				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
There could be some short term pain, but in the end Britain will still trade with Europe. Only after a yes vote they would regain border control.
In the long run, and not too long run, UK will trade as before .. most other countries need UK more than it needs them.... but it will  accelerate the EU's  already started downward spiral
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
There could be some short term pain, but in the end Britain will still trade with Europe. Only after a yes vote they would regain border control.
In the long run, and not too long run, UK will trade as before .. most other countries need UK more than it needs them.... but it will  accelerate the EU's  already started downward spiral
Even a close no to leaving the EU will accelerate a post EU world.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
There could be some short term pain, but in the end Britain will still trade with Europe. Only after a yes vote they would regain border control.
In the long run, and not too long run, UK will trade as before .. most other countries need UK more than it needs them.... but it will  accelerate the EU's  already started downward spiral
There will be a market reaction if there is a yes vote. Hopefully, it is only a reaction.
			 
			
			
				I have family in Kraut.  I remember just before the EU thing, that they said it would be the worst possible thing that could happen (a European Union)...
And they were right...
If the Brits bounce outta the EU, the Krauts will surely follow.  The Krauts only do things now to "make up for the wrongs of the past."  Joining the EU was of no benefit.
It worked well enough before the EU was implemented...  If Greece sinks, etc., that is their own fucking problem.  Not Germany, not England...
			
			
			
				I had supper last night with my dad, just the two of us..
Strangely, this topic came up even though we almost never discuss international politics.
			
			
			
				I read George Soros is spending large for the no side. That's hardly a surprise.
			
			
			
				VOTE YES BRITAIN!!
			
			
			
				Well voting starts in hours. Latest polls show swing back to leave with 10% undecided
Polls factoring in "likelihood to vote" show leave well ahead
The undecided who do vote will decide it
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Polls factoring in "likelihood to vote" show leave well ahead
The undecided who do vote will decide it
....I'm betting and predicting the 'Remain' Side to win.
And all it may have taken was some crazed gunman to tip the 'Undecideds' to the other side.

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...I wonder how much of a bounty is out on his head if they lose.
Whatta jerk...win or lose...he has it comin' to him.
			 
			
			
				They will likely stay. 
Last week the media has been in full "save the useless EU mode" ... pretty hard to beat that when you have no way to fight back
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Last week the media has been in full "save the useless EU mode" ... pretty hard to beat that when you have no way to fight back
Massive amounts of money are backing the remain side. Britain will stay.
			 
			
			
				I think money / press etc. will win out
Anyhow, seems all of Europe is suicidal now
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Anyhow, seems all of Europe is suicidal now
I don't see how the Brexit side can win. But, I hope other countries in the EU do re examine their membership in the EU.
			 
			
			
				They will, and are. Polls are progressively and consistently showing more intention to leave the EU all throughout Europe
Yes. The playing field was never level on Brexit .. the deck was stacked .
No different than here in the last Quebec referendum ..... Much govt. onslought, taxpayer money + media effect on it .. c'ept the money from the EU is a lot more
			
			
			
				Here are the most complete results thus far:
https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-referendum/index.html
....as of now looks like my prediction is way off. 
But only a handful of polls counted so far. Leave is in front.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-referendum/index.html
....as of now looks like my prediction is way off. 
But only a handful of polls counted so far. Leave is in front.
I saw the leave side with a slight lead too. Remain will win.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-referendum/index.html
....as of now looks like my prediction is way off. 
But only a handful of polls counted so far. Leave is in front.
I saw the leave side with a slight lead too. Remain will win.
According to the BBC, Leave is currently pulling ahead by quite a bit:
http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
200,000 votes or 1% margin.
...could change though.
Still this must be a time of concern for the Remain camp.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-referendum/index.html
....as of now looks like my prediction is way off. 
But only a handful of polls counted so far. Leave is in front.
I saw the leave side with a slight lead too. Remain will win.
According to the BBC, Leave is currently pulling ahead by quite a bit:
http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
200,000 votes or 1% margin.
...could change though.
Still this must be a time of concern for the Remain camp.
Big money and power wants to remain. They will do anything to make sure they win.
			 
			
			
				They just might fail ... well over 1/2 in now
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Wouldn't that be something if the leave side won.
			 
			
			
				Well, it's 2/3 in & their 51.3 at moment
It ain't over though
			
			
			
				Nottingham  & Lancaster bellwethers vote LEAVE ,,,, very close but both were predicted to remain
			
			
			
				I still say the remain side will win.
			
			
			
				We will see - I know why you say that as the Remain had such powerful money & support & elitist dirty trick .. even Soros chipped in for mega millions 
75 % of places in - 52% 
16,8000 to win  ..... current is  12,452,566 VOTES 11,706,888
			
			
			
				12,704,856      11,924,541
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
75 % of places in - 52% 
16,8000 to win  ..... current is  12,452,566 VOTES 11,706,888
Exactly ceec. The deck was stacked against the leave side. This will be a major upset if the leave side wins. And until all the votes are counted I still say the remain side will win.
			 
			
			
				ok, I understand .... only allah knows what tricks are yet to come
 ac_smile
			
			
			
				BBC, biting the bullet, forecasts Leave win ... 900,000 lead now
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
I admit the results are not what I expected. If I was voting, I would vote to leave the EU.
			 
			
			
				inching to 1 m lead
need only 2 m to win as of now
4% spread as of now
			
			
			
				It's exciting that's for sure.
			
			
			
				just crossed 15 m .. 1.6 to go
			
			
			
				15.5 now  .. .over 1 m lead 
my heritage is originally Brit on all sides, albeit some horse thieves .. I'm fkn ecstatic!!
			
			
			
				1.1 m spread - just 1 more m to go
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Did you really expect this ceec? I think you and I are on the same page politically, but all the money and power was for the remain side.
			 
			
			
				over 16 m - 16.8 is the number needed
Watch the EU elitist twatwaffles  do a slomo collapse now
			
			
			
				Like I said, my Kraut family was not happy when the EU formed.
If Britain goes, maybe Krautland will be next to go.  And then the others.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "smell the glove"
If Britain goes, maybe Krautland will be next to go.  And then the others.
Germany will be the last one standing I would say.
			 
			
			
				Hard to say...  I have only spoken to my family there about the matter, and they did not care for the formation of the EU.
I suppose the only way to know for sure, is to let the masses there vote on the matter!
			
			
			
				Quote from: "smell the glove"
I suppose the only way to know for sure, is to let the masses there vote on the matter!
If the leave side holds on and wins it will put wind in the sails of the exit EU movement in other countries. They'll see the sky won't fall in a post EU world.
			 
			
			
				Germany would actually have the biggest benefit if it removed itself from the EU.  No more propping up underperforming places like Greece.
Just because Germany has a relatively strong economy, I don't see why it has to send tons of cash to underperforming nations time and time again...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "smell the glove"
Just because Germany has a relatively strong economy, I don't see why it has to send tons of cash to underperforming nations time and time again...
Germany is actually not doing well right now. Britain has the strongest economy in the EU at the moment.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
So the UK finally managed to beat out Germany?  I know Germany led up until quite recently there...
			 
			
			
				16.8 m (the number needed) and rising
4 % spread 
It's O V E R !!!!
 ac_dance
London paper headline - [size=150]See EU Later!![/size]
Next up - The EU twatwaffles start to crumble !!
			
			
			
				Now the EU deathwatch starts
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
4 % spread 
It's O V E R !!!!
 ac_dance
London paper headline - [size=150]See EU Later!![/size]
Next up - The EU twatwaffles start to crumble !!
I am glad I did not make a wager on this. I like the result.
			 
			
			
				Good.  Hopefully the rest follow, eventually, and in time.
Greece is not Germany, Britain is not Italy.
To attempt to cluster superior performing nations and peoples, with underperformers, in a clown attempt to 'unite' everyone, does not, and will never, work.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
The IMF predicts a severe economic contraction if Britain pulls out of the EU:
 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
...loss of jobs, fewer opportunities due to lost trade, etc.
Easier to turn away refugees this way.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
4 % spread 
It's O V E R !!!!
 ac_dance
London paper headline - [size=150]See EU Later!![/size]
Next up - The EU twatwaffles start to crumble !!
David Cameron will resign in the fall. The next prime minister will begin the process of withdrawing from the EU. It will take a couple of years.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Gallium"
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				Hahaha
			
			
			
				Lots of talk at work today about yesterday's vote result in Britain..
Everyone is wondering what now.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Gallium"
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No Scandinavian countries in the EU? I'm pretty sure there are!
			 
			
			
				Apparently Britain also voted to leave the United Nations. Implications indeed!

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				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Gallium"
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No Scandinavian countries in the EU? I'm pretty sure there are!
I'm pretty sure they were left out because that doesn't work with the joke.  :oeudC:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Everyone is wondering what now.
I still cannot believe the leave side actually won.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
I'm pretty they were left out because the idiots don't know which countries are in the EU!  :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
I'm pretty they were left out because the idiots don't know which countries are in the EU!  :001_rolleyes:
It was a joke for Christ sake man. it does not fit with the joke. Take the stick out of your ass.
			 
			
			
				LOL @ the unbelievably shallow thinking depth of Rohammad .... and  sensitivity for anything bad
It's a fucking .. but appropriate joke ffs

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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Everyone is wondering what now.
I still cannot believe the leave side actually won.
I can. I hoped / thot they would take back their very soul
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
I'm pretty they were left out because the idiots don't know which countries are in the EU!  :001_rolleyes:
Do you want me to re-draw it with Europe's wang hovering overhead like a phallic mistletoe?  Will you get the joke then?
 :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				eww ... lol
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
It's a fucking .. but appropriate joke ffs
Oh, I've been laughing since I saw it!
Hahaha, I knew you were going to post the graphic again now that it's on the other page. Oh my goodness me, what if someone misses it! 
But what happens when this thread reaches page five? WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN :laugh:
			 
			
			
				What if it's easier to quote and not edit the image like say on a handheld device.
Hey Romero, remember when you were almost fun?  How bitter we've become eh?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
Hey Romero, remember when you were almost fun?  How bitter we've become eh?
Sorry, I don't what you're talking about in the first sentence. What quote?
And bitter? Where am I being bitter?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
Hey Romero, remember when you were almost fun?  How bitter we've become eh?
Sorry, I don't what you're talking about in the first sentence. What quote?
And bitter? Where am I being bitter?
On handheld devices, editing quoted posts is a pain in the ass.  It's easier to just quote it so I wouldn't assume it was intentional.
You have a bite to your posts you never used to have.  Been at it too long?
			 
			
			
				Donald Trump: "Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back."
Scotland actually voted against leaving 62%-38%, and may end up leaving the UK.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
You have a bite to your posts you never used to have.  Been at it too long?
Of course it was intentional. She does it all the time. And it's not in a quote box, is it? Lighten up! I'm just having some fun with her OCD!
Can you show me the quote where I'm allegedly bitter?
			 
			
			
				keep digging your hole deeper
Where's my hornung shovel pic library when I need it
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
You have a bite to your posts you never used to have.  Been at it too long?
Of course it was intentional. She does it all the time. And it's not in a quote box, is it? Lighten up! I'm just having some fun with her OCD!
Can you show me the quote where I'm allegedly bitter?
You are on cc like white on rice with jabs constantly.  It's like she's spanked you too many times and you have to get her back by picking at the most inane things, including jokes.
Have some fun FFS.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Scotland actually voted against leaving 62%-38%, and may end up leaving the UK.
People need to vote for Anonymous.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Where's my hornung shovel pic library when I need it
Rohammad is trying to be a dick because he is offended by any joke that makes fun of the prophet and the ideology he created.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Scotland actually voted against leaving 62%-38%, and may end up leaving the UK.
People need to vote for Anonymous.
To hell with that Sanders loonie group. Vote for Gary Johnson if you want smaller government, fiscal responsibility and a reversal of the national debt doubling every eight years.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "cc la femme"
Where's my hornung shovel pic library when I need it
Rohammad is trying to be a dick because he is offended by any joke that makes fun of the prophet and the ideology he created.
Nah.  He just wants to get cc's goat.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "RW"
Have some fun FFS.
cc and I have always taken jabs at each other. So have you! Is someone complaining or something? Why so sensitive?
Hey, what happened to Renee?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "RW"
Have some fun FFS.
cc and I have always taken jabs at each other. So have you! Is someone complaining or something? Why so sensitive?
Hey, what happened to Renee?
Yes I know but it doesn't seem like it's just in fun any more.
Maybe it's just me.
She's taking a break.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Scotland actually voted against leaving 62%-38%, and may end up leaving the UK.
People need to vote for Anonymous.
To hell with that Sanders loonie group. Vote for Gary Johnson if you want smaller government, fiscal responsibility and a reversal of the national debt doubling every eight years.
I don't know about the Libertarian party Herm. Some of their ideas are a radical departure from anything the Americans have ever seen before.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Romero"
Scotland actually voted against leaving 62%-38%, and may end up leaving the UK.
People need to vote for Anonymous.
To hell with that Sanders loonie group. Vote for Gary Johnson if you want smaller government, fiscal responsibility and a reversal of the national debt doubling every eight years.
I don't know about the Libertarian party Herm. Some of their ideas are a radical departure from anything the Americans have ever seen before.
I used to be a libertarian. I understand the appeal of libertarianism, low taxes, control over how our own money is spent, individual sovereignty. However, they do not have the stomach to deal with issues like Islamic radicalization. Libertarianism is an ideology and like other ideologies like socialism for example, it is not very pragmatic
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc la femme"
Quote from: "Gallium"
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Oh dear!  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				They can't say the warning wasn't there all along  ac_smile