Title: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 19, 2016, 12:35:50 PM
Post by: smell the glove on June 19, 2016, 12:35:50 PM
I am almost done with my current life, and want a female.
I fucked shit up with my ex, and now have to consider a new lifestyle.
I don't know if I can do it, but luckily I am in a position to try...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 12:50:16 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 12:50:16 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 12:50:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 12:50:33 PM
Women have and nurture males into evil menQuote from: "cc la femme"
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
Lol cc. I tookn a peek at the thread you are making fun of. Internet memes and social media one liners.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
Women have and nurture males into evil menQuote from: "cc la femme"
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
No no cc. Remember last night? Men hate women so how can they have any influence on men at all?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 01:37:23 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 01:37:23 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
Did you take a look at the thread I was making fun of?Quote from: "RW"
:001_rolleyes:
I said I did.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 01:46:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 01:46:30 PM
Now, now. let's be precise with what was actually said. islamic men are conditioned by islamic society to despise women and to consider them inferiorQuote from: "cc la femme"
And is that cultural or is that based on Muslim text or a combination of both?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:51:26 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:51:26 PM
Now, now. let's be precise with what was actually said. islamic men are conditioned by islamic society to despise women and to consider them inferiorQuote from: "cc la femme"
So ergo women have no influence so they need not be banned.
Nice try :)
I'd like to make the serious recommendation though that you take a look at our history as a patriarchal society to see the parallels that resonate to this day. Also, if you read up on Islamic societal structure, arguments can be made that they don't in fact despise women at all. That can be hard to see through a lense not clouded by western feminist values.
Note: I say this knowing and disagreeing with many cultural and religious practises that are abhorrently unfair to women.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
Now, now. let's be precise with what was actually said. islamic men are conditioned by islamic society to despise women and to consider them inferiorQuote from: "cc la femme"
And is that cultural or is that based on Muslim text?
It's both. You do see significant differences in the treatment of women within Islam between cultures. That is something this anti-Islam train fails to acknowledge for some strange reason.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Chattels is chattels ... inferior is inferior .. lesser being is lesser being
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
It comes from both in that societies following islam follow islamQuote from: "cc la femme"
chattels is chattels ... inferior is inferior
Chattle, inferior, and lesser beings have no influence.
Your OP is fail. Sadly, even jokingly, mine was not.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:00:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:00:51 PM
A potentially good discussion derailed by someone on a meds binge. Just like Mel.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
^Teenage girls being married off to old men can relate to the plight of their Western or Eastern sisters.Quote from: "seoulbro":crazy:
A potentially good discussion derailed by someone on a meds binge. Just like Mel.
I'm on no different medications than I always take you cheeky little fucker.
I'm sorry if I'm making relevant and cogent points that directly counter the OP. I apologize if my discussions on patriarchy and the influences of women who supposedly have no influence are not serious enough for you.
You all seem to need a history lesson on the plight of women throughout history. It's because we've advanced as a society beyond this shit, we think we're in some way superior to those who remain primative. They will catch up to us eventually but like us, these women will need to rise up on their own accord just like we did.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
^Teenage girls being married off to old men can relate to the plight of their Western or Eastern sisters.Quote from: "seoulbro":crazy:
A potentially good discussion derailed by someone on a meds binge. Just like Mel.
Relax brother, RW is giving us the standard Islamo apologist talking points. I have heard all the tired examples she has given about Islam being no different than what the West is now or was in the past a thousand times before.
Islam was born of a violent and hateful, very bigoted man. The closest analogy we have in the West to the barbaric ideology is nazism. Thank Christ nazism does not have a significant segment of the white population who are sympathetic to it's madness and financing from governments.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:50:20 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:50:20 PM
^Teenage girls being married off to old men can relate to the plight of their Western or Eastern sisters.Quote from: "seoulbro":crazy:
A potentially good discussion derailed by someone on a meds binge. Just like Mel.
Relax brother, RW is giving us the standard Islamo apologist talking points. I have heard all the tired examples she has given about Islam being no different than what the West is now or was in the past a thousand times before.
Islam was born of a violent and hateful, very bigoted man. The closest analogy we have in the West to the barbaric ideology is nazism. Thank Christ nazism does not have a significant segment of the white population who are sympathetic to it's madness and financing from governments.
So if I agree with cc that women are lesser beings within Islam and they have no influence, it counters her OP. Is that such a hard concept to grasp for you anti-Islam folks?
I also think it would do you all some good to look at our history before you jump up on your damn soap boxes and prattle on about things that have definite parallels.
As for nazism, Muslims are the new Nazis or Russians or Japanese or Italians....
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:51:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 02:51:15 PM
Now, now. let's be precise with what was actually said. islamic men are conditioned by islamic society to despise women and to consider them inferiorQuote from: "cc la femme"
And is that cultural or is that based on Muslim text?
It's both. You do see significant differences in the treatment of women within Islam between cultures. That is something this anti-Islam train fails to acknowledge for some strange reason.
That's an easy one. Take for example South East Asian Muslims who are generally considered the most tolerant Muslims in the world. When the Hakkan sailors and traders started settling in those lands all those centuries ago they took control of trade and had the ear of government. Islamic backwardness took a backseat to Chinese commerce. That is changing since the Chinese cultural influence has waned in all countries except Singapore. Across Indonesia, religious minorities, including Christians and Shia Muslims, have increasingly been harassed, threatened and attacked by Sunni Islamist militant groups like the Islamic Defenders Front. Indonesia's Setara Institute, which monitors religious freedom in the country, recorded 220 cases of violent attacks on religious minorities in 2013, an increase from 91 such cases in 2007.
In Malaysia, militancy is growing too that threatens the stability of the region.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: kiebers on June 19, 2016, 03:08:25 PM
Post by: kiebers on June 19, 2016, 03:08:25 PM
Women have and nurture males into evil menQuote from: "cc la femme"
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
As long as we are banned to the same place...I can deal with it.....
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 19, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:17:36 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:17:36 PM
I will never forget the mockery I was subjected to after I stepped into a silver bazaar in the Khan el-Khalili market or souk in Cairo when I was shopping by myself, stoutheartedly. The men in the shop stared at me after I asked them a question in English and then started giggling. That was awful and humiliating. Not all are like that but a great many are.
I have an IT guy at work who is Muslim and he's been nothing but respectful and kind to all of us and helpful. He is the one the majority calls on when issues arise because they like working with him. Regretfully, they are not all like that too.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:18:31 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:18:31 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
So how is it that so many Muslims live just fine in our country Herman? Like over a million of them.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
I respect western male who treat women with respect. Then again, it's only the western male of a certain upbringing. Not everyone is that way.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I will never forget the mockery I was subjected to after I stepped into a silver bazaar in the Khan el-Khalili market or souk in Cairo when I was shopping by myself, stoutheartedly. The men in the shop stared at me after I asked them a question in English and then started giggling. That was awful and humiliating. Not all are like that but a great many are.
I have an IT guy at work who is Muslim and he's been nothing but respectful and kind to all of us and helpful. He is the one the majority calls on when issues arise because they like working with him. Regretfully, they are not all like that too.
My husband worked with 2 males and a female who were Muslim. All were lovely people - kind and extremely respectful. I still assert that one of the guys was one of the nicest men I have ever met in my entire life.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
If you are indeed a peace-loving muslim in our society today, it must be extra work for you to maintain a positive and respectful countenance amid a sea of doubtful neighbors.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
That's exactly how I feel which is why reading some of this garbage makes me want to puke.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:44:57 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 19, 2016, 03:44:57 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
They need a champion to fight for their supposed peace-loving faith. If they truly are peace-loving as they claim to be, I want to see the peace-loving multitude go out there and fight the extremists and denounce them. How come no such Muslim groups do that?Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
They do. I've had this argument many times and when you point out the groups denouncing terrorism and extremism, they either get little air time or told they aren't doing enough.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
You see, to advocate fixing it one must first define "what is wrong" with it. Not only islamics attacked that but many silly Westerners have done so as well .. getting all uppity and protective about criticism of islam - a catch 22 / no win scenario from both directions
A Canadian gal Irshad Manji is trying to change it .. got a lot of free publicity a decade ago and she has gone nowhere
Zuhdi Jasser has been trying for over a decade. While he still gets press, as to fixing islam, nada
Ayaan Ali is now full bore fix islam mode .. from behind armed guards
There have been many more on local and world stages. All shot down in flames. Most having to live under heavy guard as well as being pariahs to the very Westerners who support islam
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:35:27 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:35:27 PM
"More than 200 Muslims, including dozens of American imams and scholars, have issued a joint statement condemning the attacks on a gay night club in Orlando on Sunday that killed 49 people."
...
"The attack again put American Muslims on the defensive, just days after they had mourned the passing and celebrated the life of Muhammad Ali, the charismatic boxer who, many hoped, had definitively answered the question of whether Muslim-Americans can successfully embrace multiple identities."
[How did Mohammed Ali do in terms of integration?]
In their statement, the Muslim scholars, imams and community leaders, most from the United States, said Ali, not ISIS, embodies the values of their faith. They also decry the concept of "collective guilt" that holds all Muslims responsible for terrorist attacks, and warn against simplistic philosophies that pit Americans and Muslims against each other.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:39:28 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:39:28 PM
There have been many who tried. Not only islamics but Westerners shredded them.Quote from: "cc la femme"
You see, to advocate fixing it one must first define "what is wrong" with it. Not only islamics attacked that but many silly Westerners have done so as well .. getting all uppity and protective about criticism of islam - a catch 22 / no win scenario from both directions
A Canadian gal Irshad Manji is trying to change it .. got a lot of free publicity a decade ago and she has gone nowhere
Zuhdi Jasser has been trying for over a decade. While he still gets press, as to fixing islam, nada
Ayaan Ali is now full bore fix islam mode.
There have been many more on local and world stages. All shot down in flames. Most having to live under heavy guard as well as being pariahs to the very Westerners who support islam
Let's be crystal clear cc, calling for the ban of Muslims from our society is NOT criticism of Islam. The dialogue I have witnessed first hand has not been constructive, productive or otherwise.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
You are merely charging along the same path to nowhere we saw a decade ago
Nothing has improved despite efforts of many. In fact, islam is far more devout today than a decade ago
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:46:41 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 04:46:41 PM
You are not replying to what you quoted.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Sure I am. I am making a point on your point about people getting "uppity" about criticisms of Islam.
I suppose I should just come out and say how disappointed I am that you sit silence while these prairie boys call for the banning and expulsion of Muslims from the west. You and I have been over this so many times where the differentiation was clearly made between Islamists and Muslims. Now I see you sitting silent to this blatant bigotry. You know better and so much more yet you still sit there like a lame duck.
*shakes head*
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 19, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 19, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
Women have and nurture males into evil menQuote from: "cc la femme"
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
the way you worded that?? Can I get a hit of yours first? Gotta be killer.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Post by: cc on June 19, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
Post by: RW on June 19, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
I am going out right now for a spin in another kind of bird. Will address that later RWQuote from: "cc la femme"
Have fun! I hope the weather holds out for you.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:41:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:41:48 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
So how is it that so many Muslims live just fine in our country Herman? Like over a million of them.
What Herman said applies to a segment of the Muslim population throughout the Western world. We are not an island.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:48:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:48:48 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/living/orlando-muslims-statement/
"More than 200 Muslims, including dozens of American imams and scholars, have issued a joint statement condemning the attacks on a gay night club in Orlando on Sunday that killed 49 people."
...
"The attack again put American Muslims on the defensive, just days after they had mourned the passing and celebrated the life of Muhammad Ali, the charismatic boxer who, many hoped, had definitively answered the question of whether Muslim-Americans can successfully embrace multiple identities."
[How did Mohammed Ali do in terms of integration?]
In their statement, the Muslim scholars, imams and community leaders, most from the United States, said Ali, not ISIS, embodies the values of their faith. They also decry the concept of "collective guilt" that holds all Muslims responsible for terrorist attacks, and warn against simplistic philosophies that pit Americans and Muslims against each other.
That's wonderful and everything, but nearly half of Muslims in some Western want sharia law which includes banning homosexuality.
I know not all Muslims are fundamentalists that want cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammad made a hate crime, but too many do.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:54:06 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:54:06 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 01:41:13 AM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 01:41:13 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 01:58:21 AM
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 01:58:21 AM
Women have and nurture males into evil menQuote from: "cc la femme"
If we "neuteralized" women, then they would be stopped from creating evil men
discuss ..
I read somewhere that Adolf Hitler's mother was a sweet woman whom the future tyrant loved and adored..But it was the father who was a very strict & mean man who used to beat and berate his son.
So perhaps of Adolf had a kinder father, he wouldn't have himself turned out so mean.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 02:10:17 AM
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 02:10:17 AM
But of course, Omar Mateen himself appears to have been gay, which fueled his own destructive self-hatred and led to him massacring scores of partygoers in an Orlando gay night club.
Doesn't appear that Omar's mother as much to do with him turning out the way he did.
She was likely a typical submissive Muslim wife who gave in to the wrath of a domineering husband with a violent temper. Yet there are reports that even she had run-ins with the Law over domestic violence incidents. Omar appears to have come from and been raised in a dysfunctional household which had a lot to do with his turning out the way he did.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:22:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:22:37 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:34:45 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:34:45 AM
I know not all Muslims are fundamentalists that want cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammad made a hate crime, but too many do.
Funny you should mention that Jock.
Poll: 1 in 3 Muslims in the US support violence against those who insult Muhammad, Quran or Islam
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:56:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 04:56:19 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
I don't actually believe there will ever be curbs on any part of Islam anymore than Donald Trump believes Mexico will pay for a wall.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:46:21 AM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:46:21 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:46:54 AM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:46:54 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
I don't actually believe there will ever be curbs on any part of Islam anymore than Donald Trump believes Mexico will pay for a wall.
That's nice but it doesn't answer my question.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:52:03 AM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:52:03 AM
I know not all Muslims are fundamentalists that want cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammad made a hate crime, but too many do.
Funny you should mention that Jock.
Poll: 1 in 3 Muslims in the US support violence against those who insult Muhammad, Quran or Islamhttp://pamelageller.com/2015/06/poll-1-in-3-muslims-in-the-us-support-violence-against-those-who-insult-muhammad-quran-or-islam.html/
Your source is garbage.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 20, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 20, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
I am going out right now for a spin in another kind of bird. Will address that later RWQuote from: "cc la femme"
Hope she didn't get in a wreck?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
ac_dunno
That is really strange. I don't see similar reactions from Jews if someone draws a satirical cartoon of Moses.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
ac_dunno
That is really strange. I don't see similar reactions from Jews if someone draws draws a satirical cartoon of Moses.
It's called a different set of beliefs.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 02:18:10 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 02:18:10 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:22:38 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:22:38 PM
Oh, it is "different" all rightQuote from: "cc la femme"
Not as different as you'd let on though. There are many similarities between Islam and, say, Christianity. Just different stages...for the most part.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 02:26:32 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 02:26:32 PM
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:27:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:27:06 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
ac_dunno
That is really strange. I don't see similar reactions from Jews if someone draws a satirical cartoon of Moses.
It's called a different set of beliefs.:001_rolleyes:
Do they believe he is just a man or something above that..
Criticism of religious leaders is perfectly legal in Canada.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
I get offended by some things I see in the secular media, but that is one of the things you have to get over when you live in a prosperous, pluralistic nation..
You can live in an advanced, tolerant society or you can live in one that dictates morality..
Nobody can have their cake and eat it too.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:38:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:38:50 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Of course it is. That's why Chatlie Hebdo staff are dead.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
ac_dunno
That is really strange. I don't see similar reactions from Jews if someone draws draws a satirical cartoon of Moses.
It's called a different set of beliefs.:001_rolleyes:
Not only is it called different, a more precise way to describe it is completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Really? And which religion(s) do you think has influenced our laws that governs followers and non-followers alike?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:48:39 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:48:39 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
I do not get that at all..
I can understand Muslims getting offended(not violent) if their Allah is insulted..
But, Mohammad was only a man.
ac_dunno
That is really strange. I don't see similar reactions from Jews if someone draws draws a satirical cartoon of Moses.
It's called a different set of beliefs.:001_rolleyes:
Not only is it called different, a more precise way to describe it is completely unacceptable.
They feel the same way about our beliefs, amoung other things.
See, EVERY religion group thinks the other one has it wrong. Those not in a religious group think all religious groups have it wrong. And around and around we go...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:51:08 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 02:51:08 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Of course it is. That's why Chatlie Hebdo staff are dead.
I don't fail to recognize we currently have an Islamic terrorist organizations committing atrocities worldwide. How many Muslims would you say are a part of that organization?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Of course it is. That's why Chatlie Hebdo staff are dead.
Salman Rushdie in exile, the assassination attempts on the Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, the killing of Theo Van Gogh in response to his film on women and Islam and loud calls to have cartoons of Mohammad with a bomb in his turban considered hate speech..
Something is going on in Europe, there is no denying that..
Muslim leaders in Europe argue that since denying the holocaust is hate speech, so should any and all criticism of the prophet Mohammad including satirical cartoons..
I consider myself a tolerant woman, but this stretches the limits of my tolerance..
How do others feel? Is this a reasonable accommodation of a religion or does it infringe on free speech?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Of course it is. That's why Chatlie Hebdo staff are dead.
Salman Rushdie in exile, the assassination attempts on the Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, the killing of Theo Van Gogh in response to his film on women and Islam and loud calls to have cartoons of Mohammad with a bomb in his turban considered hate speech..
Something is going on in Europe, there is no denying that..
Muslim leaders in Europe argue that since denying the holocaust is hate speech, so should any and all criticism of the prophet Mohammad including satirical cartoons..
I consider myself a tolerant woman, but this stretches the limits of my tolerance..
How do others feel? Is this a reasonable accommodation of a religion or does it infringe on free speech?
Definite infringement on the freedom of speech. Denying the holocaust isn't considered hate speech in Canada per se...
There have been a few cases involving denying the holocaust. One involved a high school teacher named James Keegstra who taught students that Jews were evil and had created the Holocaust for sympathy. He was found guilty of inciting hatred. Another was Ernst Zundel who ran around making pamphlets about Jews, denying the holocaust, etc, who had his conviction overturned by the Supreme Court under free speech, and David Ahenakew, a First Nation's Chief who made anti-semetic remarks but who also was acquitted of wrong doing during appeal.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Really? And which religion(s) do you think has influenced our laws that governs followers and non-followers alike?:001_rolleyes:
You do realize that you are running around the issue of are islamic principles such as attacking anyone who speaks out against it, or draws pics etc etc etc to name just a very few of its many unacceptable beliefs here in the West
Cutting to the chase, It does appear that you are saying these principles are acceptable and twisting yourself and your own core values into pretzels in attempting to justify it
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.
However that concern does not justify justifying what we all consider to be evil beliefs and the resulting acts to enforce those beliefs
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
I support the foundations of our culture including freedom of speech but I'm not going to get hopped up about shit that's part of damn near every religion and we've lived with for ages - like religion's calls to spread their religious seed or banning homosexuality which is something seen in Christian religions.
It's simple. I don't support terrorism or the supremist ideologies held by these pieces of shit. I just don't accept that every Muslim shares the beliefs of terrorists.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:10:18 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:10:18 PM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Really? And which religion(s) do you think has influenced our laws that governs followers and non-followers alike?:001_rolleyes:
You do realize that you are running around the issue of are islamic principles such as attacking anyone who speaks out against it, or draws pics etc etc etc to name just a very few of its many unacceptable beliefs here in the West
Cutting to the chase, It does appear that you are saying these principles are acceptable and twisting yourself and your own core values into pretzels in attempting to justify it
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.
However that concern does not justify justifying what we all consider to be evil beliefs and the resulting acts to enforce those beliefs
Since I forgot to quote your original post, I now have to reply again. *sigh*
Now if I am to believe that Islamic principles of attacking people who speak out against it is truly a tenant followed by the majority of Muslims on this planet (there's 1.6 BILLION of them), then we'd have one hell of a HUGE holy army kicking our asses. We don't. In fact, the MAJORITY of those 1.6 BILLION adherents are not attacking anyone. What we do have is extremist groups who have declared a holy war against the West. I have asked you many times how many those groups number and you have yet to provide one because you know it is a
I have never said that going against western values in western countries is acceptable. I have NEVER supported harming people for drawing pictures of Mohammed or not being able to freely criticise a religion or it's beliefs within the bounds of our laws. I have NEVER supported Sharia law in our countries. What I have done is try to understand where these people are coming from by looking at our own beliefs and our own history. See cc, I have an educational background in things like religious and women's studies. It gives me a bit of PERSPECTIVE on some of the issues that you and your litter of prairie dogs jump up and down about. Issues around homosexuality, law, and the spread of religious belief. I guess that's why hearing shit like "Muslims want to make homosexuality illegal" or "it's their duty to spread their religion throughout the world" doesn't fucking phase me. I was taught the exact same thing in Catholic school when I was 10 years old FFS.
What we have is an insurgence of a very real terrorist threat coming out of Islam in the form of Islamists who have declared war on us and our ways. Things are escalating within our countries and being made worse by growing bigotry and marginalization. Prevalent attitudes like the ones shared on this board are feeding further extremism. Does that sound familiar? I've been saying that for YEARS now. Neither side is working towards anything but further conflict. Many people are going to die because we don't want peace with each other, except of course, those who do. Those who are forgotten in all of this yet end up being victims to hatred and ignorance nonetheless.
We have seen this very scenario so many times in history yet for some reason people think Islam is in some way special. It's just the enemy du jour because we have learned NOTHING from our mistakes. And you know, I really hate when innocent people have to pay for the mistakes of the stupid.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 07:17:17 PM
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 07:17:17 PM
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Maybe you should stop hiring them to work for you.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Maybe you should stop hiring them to work for you.
I highly doubt she has Islamists working for her.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
Islamic hairdresser and some friends too. The ultimate hypocrite.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:59:19 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 07:59:19 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 08:21:41 PM
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 08:21:41 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 08:35:53 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 08:35:53 PM
Then why did you say you doubted it?Quote from: "Romero"
Because what I've learned from cc over the years is there is a difference between an Islamic(Muslim) and an Islamist.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 09:14:33 PM
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2016, 09:14:33 PM
So clearly you acknowledge this was a dedicated / committed islamic killing for his godQuote from: "cc la femme"
Let's put this "Oz" thing on hold and discuss that after oz experiences more and large islamic attacks.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Check out the 'Extremism' sub-forum. cc's all ''Islamic, Islamic, Islamic''.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
Post by: JOE on June 20, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
I've often wondered given his staunch defense of everything Muslim and Gay.
Perhaps this is the symbol of his cause?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
cc says her "head employee is Islamic". Ask her!Quote from: "Romero"
Islamic hairdresser and some friends too. The ultimate hypocrite.
So you advocate against my fraternizing with islamics
You of all people. Who wooda thot?
It must take a fucked up mind to see something wrong in that ... while at the same time advocating the opposite and further .. actually trying to make it seem a "negative"
Could it ever get weirder than that?
Oh oh .. shit ... I think I should not have said that
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
cc says her "head employee is Islamic". Ask her!Quote from: "Romero"
Islamic hairdresser and some friends too. The ultimate hypocrite.
So you advocate against my fraternizing with islamics
You of all people. Who wooda thot
It must take a fucked up mind to see something wrong in that ... while at the same time advocating the opposite
Could it ever get weirder than that?:oeudC: ..
Oh oh .. shit ... I think I should not have said that
Romero likes to invent hypocrisy and then point it out.
Good stuff eh?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:08:19 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:08:19 PM
The funniest part is that he's displaying himself in public as the ultimate hypocrite in his process
Oh the dreadful stench of desperation
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 10:10:20 PM
Post by: RW on June 20, 2016, 10:10:20 PM
Is Romero a Gay Muslim?Quote from: "JOE"
I've often wondered given his staunch defense of everything Muslim and Gay.
Perhaps this is the symbol of his cause]
Hush Joe. The grown ups are talking.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
Post by: cc on June 20, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 12:24:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 12:24:25 AM
Militancy is a problem. No one denies that or fails to recognize that. The debate should not start and end with "Islam is evil". That's an intellectually lazy answer to a very complicated issue.Quote from: "RW"
I think killing people who insult the prophet is evil. What is worse than that though is that not a small number of Western Muslims think it is justified.
Like old Shen Li always says, Islam is incompatible with Western or Eastern values.
Shen Li is right about Islam. But, like RW keeps repeating, not all Muslims subscribe to Islamic orthodoxy. Unfortunately, not a small number do.
So why did you call for the ban of Islam in the western world then?
Did you not read this part;Unfortunately, not a small number do.
I read it but it's bullshit. :)
Of course it is. That's why Chatlie Hebdo staff are dead.
Salman Rushdie in exile, the assassination attempts on the Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, the killing of Theo Van Gogh in response to his film on women and Islam and loud calls to have cartoons of Mohammad with a bomb in his turban considered hate speech..
Something is going on in Europe, there is no denying that..
Muslim leaders in Europe argue that since denying the holocaust is hate speech, so should any and all criticism of the prophet Mohammad including satirical cartoons..
I consider myself a tolerant woman, but this stretches the limits of my tolerance..
How do others feel? Is this a reasonable accommodation of a religion or does it infringe on free speech?
You know the answer most people will give even if only off the record.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 12:36:18 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 12:36:18 AM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Really? And which religion(s) do you think has influenced our laws that governs followers and non-followers alike?:001_rolleyes:
You do realize that you are running around the issue of are islamic principles such as attacking anyone who speaks out against it, or draws pics etc etc etc to name just a very few of its many unacceptable beliefs here in the West
Cutting to the chase, It does appear that you are saying these principles are acceptable and twisting yourself and your own core values into pretzels in attempting to justify it
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.
However that concern does not justify justifying what we all consider to be evil beliefs and the resulting acts to enforce those beliefs
Not only running around it, but seems to be accepting of it. Criticism of the prophet is neither hate speech nor Islamophobia. Then again you should fear Islam' s wrath if you draw a naughty picture of the prophet.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 01:24:59 AM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 01:24:59 AM
Called "many centuries"Quote from: "cc la femme"
It not only enforces its beliefs on followers, it even calls for and enforces its beliefs upon non followers
a pig that sheds / shreads an lipstick applied to it
Really? And which religion(s) do you think has influenced our laws that governs followers and non-followers alike?:001_rolleyes:
You do realize that you are running around the issue of are islamic principles such as attacking anyone who speaks out against it, or draws pics etc etc etc to name just a very few of its many unacceptable beliefs here in the West
Cutting to the chase, It does appear that you are saying these principles are acceptable and twisting yourself and your own core values into pretzels in attempting to justify it
I understand that you fear for islamics already here. That's a legit concern that I relate to. It has dogged me for 2 decades now.
However that concern does not justify justifying what we all consider to be evil beliefs and the resulting acts to enforce those beliefs
Not only running around it, but seems to be accepting of it. Criticism of the prophet is neither hate speech nor Islamophobia. Then again you should fear Islam' s wrath if you draw a naughty picture of the prophet.
Just as not hating on Muslims is being an apologist.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 01:30:47 AM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 01:30:47 AM
I do encounter many who make excuses for islam (too many creative excuses to list) and then try to play innocent and fall back on that line ... and I call that for what that is when I see it
but a genuine neutral "not hating on" people is good .... Some of us hate islam for what it still is "today" ... but do not "hate on" good people as a result
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 04:50:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 04:50:49 AM
It's not hatred when they want to kill you.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Nearly one out of twelve verses in the Quran implies that Allah hates non Muslims. If Allah creates infidels merely to fuel the fires of Hell, then there is little reason for Muslims to believe that such lives are of any worth in this world either.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 05:17:20 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 05:17:20 AM
He wasn't the best at the job, that's for sure, and almost got canned a couple of times, but nonetheless he did show up on time everyday, and was kept on.
Personally? He was OK. He was a friendly guy, that seemed to embrace more "Western" then "Muslim" cultural beliefs.
I was kind of amused when he told me his plans of attending that 420 event at the Vancouver Art Gallery (not sure if they even still do that?) so, here is a middle aged Muslim guy attending some hippy smoke-in, to show his support. WTF?
Anyhow, it became clear to me that the reason he immigrated to Canada was for the freedom... Freedom he often complained that was not permitted in his home country. He wanted to make a decent life for himself here, and his family (I only think he had a sister here at that point, but I'm not sure about the whole immigration process, or if the guy was even married back home). He lived as a bachelor here, I do believe.
I don't think this guy would ever risk getting into serious trouble, trying to satisfy "Allah." He had too much to lose, and wouldn't have dreamed of it. He actually liked the fact that here, people have freedom and choice to generally do as they want, dress as they want, etc., and that's the reason he came here in the first place. I doubt he'd ever jeopardize that.
This is why screening immigrants is truly important... They are not all bad. Some contribute, and they are OK, no matter where they come from. However, an "open door" immigration policy is bad news, just like a steady stream of "refugees" can be also... Screening is important.
Canada is relatively lax in this regard, at times, but we seem to be doing a better job than some other Western nations are, such as German Chancellor's Angela (let 'em all in) Merkel...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 05:20:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 05:20:55 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 06:49:25 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 06:49:25 AM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
He was OK.
In fact, things were a little too "free" for him at one point!
Myself and another employee (we were both top at our jobs, and were actually delegated to hire, train and recommend the firing of guys), caught him smoking weed on company time.
Neither of us made a big deal about it, but we made it clear to him the next time you smoke on the job, while operating heavy equipment, you're gone. Do what you want on your own time, but no smoking on the job.
He never did that again.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 06:58:38 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 06:58:38 AM
Us, as outside contractors, dealt with the problem firmly, quickly, but fairly.
Myself and my co-worker dealt with the problem quickly.
It was rectified, and the Muslim didn't ever do that again. He was a good guy, and I'll go to bat for anyone that has my back also...
Kiewit contracts are big, and that's one contract that we didn't want to fuck up...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 21, 2016, 07:32:20 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 21, 2016, 07:32:20 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 07:38:50 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 21, 2016, 07:38:50 AM
Lots of Chinese here though, but quite honestly? The Chinese are the best imports of them all... Not that I like imports, but the Ch!nks are OK. They have money, keep to themselves, and don't complain.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:21:48 AM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:21:48 AM
making excuses as some do is just that .. apologizing for islam / appeasing for it etc. ..... but no one I know said that "not hating on" people is anything badQuote from: "cc la femme"
I do encounter many who make excuses for islam (too many creative excuses to list) and then try to play innocent and fall back on that line ... and I call that for what that is when I see it
but a genuine neutral "not hating on" people is good .... Some of us hate islam for what it still is "today" ... but do not "hate on" good people as a result
So is that the same when you get called a crusading Islamophobe? Are people just "calling it like they see it"?
Understanding and perspective isn't excuse and apology.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:23:40 AM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:23:40 AM
Muslims that don't observe the love of sanitary paper are pretty bad. Their persistence in using the bare left hand on the A-nus, after pushing out a deuce, and then believing that mere communal soap will vanquish E.coli and the distorted ideology that the bacterium won't exist and spread into the general populace after the fact is a goddamn outrage to tell you the truthlQuote from: "Gallium"
Why do I have a feeling that despite this post, you love watching women go ass to mouth.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Romero on June 21, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
Post by: Romero on June 21, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
So you advocate against my fraternizing with islamicsQuote from: "cc la femme"
I've never said anything against your fraternization with your Islamic employees and friends.
You have.
Warning us against Islamics one moment, fraternizing with them the next... you're the answer to your signature's question!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 21, 2016, 11:48:35 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on June 21, 2016, 11:48:35 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
Kind of like the Bible, eh?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 02:32:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2016, 02:32:06 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
Kind of like the Bible, eh?
I knew you would post that and the answer of course is no.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
Kind of like the Bible, eh?
I knew you would post that and the answer of course is no.
So Christians think the Bible was not written in a much different world from today? They don't ignore all the calls to violence contained in it? Sorry Fash, but the answer to that question is a resounding
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Western society has "mainly" grown up. "Another" is "mainly" still back in 650 and currently attempting to head back even further
For example, I'm still waiting for even 1 country, much less many or most, of 57 that does not disrespect / detest women to the point of making them lowly chattels ... that accepts gays as equals, that allows one to leave their belief without very serious repercussions ... etc. etc. ... that list is just the tip o the sand dune
I can name many (maybe all) Western countries where that is rare, "individual" only and shunned by society, as against being the "societal norm" in the 57 ... and in certain communities / areas within the West ... a rapidly increasing gift we are blessed with
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:12:58 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:12:58 PM
ummm no, not at all in fact.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Western society has "mainly" grown up. "Another" is "mainly" still back in 650 and currently attempting to head back even further
For example, I'm still waiting for that 1 country out of 57 that does not disrespect / detest women to the point of making them lowly chattels
I can name many (maybe all) Western countries where that is rare and "individual" only, as against being the "norm" in the 57
Grown up with those influences well established and in place. You seem to think change happens in years rather than decades or centuries.
Again, I can't provide a simple answer to a complex and flawed question. How about this....when you tell me how many Muslims in the world are extremists/Islamists/terrorists, I'll give you the number of countries that detest women.
Deal?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
ummm no, not at all in fact.Quote from: "cc la femme"
Western society has "mainly" grown up. "Another" is "mainly" still back in 650 and currently attempting to head back even further
For example, I'm still waiting for even 1 country, much less many or most, of 57 that does not disrespect / detest women to the point of making them lowly chattels ... that accepts gays as equals, that allows one to leave their belief without very serious repercussions ... etc. etc. ... that list is just the tip o the sand dune
I can name many (maybe all) Western countries where that is rare, "individual" only and shunned by society, as against being the "societal norm" in the 57 ... and in certain communities / areas within the West ... a rapidly increasing gift we are blessed with
To address your addition, the US doesn't even view gays as having equal rights under the law. You can thank Christian influence for that.
Oh no wait! Islam is special in its hatred/fear/dislike of homosexuality.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:15:35 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:15:35 PM
"I'm still waiting for that 1 country out of 57 that does not disrespect / detest women to the point of making them lowly chattels" is extremely staight forward, is NOT a question, rather is a simple request for backup to support your point
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
"I'm still waiting for that 1 country out of 57 that does not disrespect / detest women to the point of making them lowly chattels" is extremely staight forward, is NOT a question, rather is a simple request for backup to make your point stickQuote from: "cc la femme"
Straw man cc, but I did already address it.
So how about that number?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:18:58 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:18:58 PM
So you can't .. why not just woman up and say it
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
So you can't .. why not just woman up and say itQuote from: "cc la femme"
I can.
I gave you my terms.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:21:41 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:21:41 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:24:58 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:24:58 PM
You bloody well know the societal norms are centuries behind and just won't admit it
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:28:18 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:28:18 PM
terms? I must have missed that ... terms for a simple example or mega examples to prove your general points? WTF is that all aboutQuote from: "cc la femme"You bloody well know the societal norms are centuries behind and just won't admit it
I have admitted that actually.
You're slippin' cc.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:32:46 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 10:32:46 PM
As that is true ...... my sig asks the only remaining question .. has for some time
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:33:33 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:33:33 PM
Shame .. you of all know 1. our society has progressed and 2. islam has notQuote from: "cc la femme"
Of course I do. I understand that a large portion of Muslims come from countries not as advanced or developed as our. That makes them primative, not inherently fucking evil.
Not to mention earlier in this thread:
You all seem to need a history lesson on the plight of women throughout history. It's because we've advanced as a society beyond this shit, we think we're in some way superior to those who remain primative. They will catch up to us eventually but like us, these women will need to rise up on their own accord just like we did.Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
I'v'e been working hard lately, but looks like you admitted that " societal norms are centuries behind " so we are done with this carryonQuote from: "cc la femme"
As that is true ...... my sig asks the only remaining question .. has for some time
I have sigs turned off.
You know what question I've been asking YOU for YEARS? How many Muslims are extremists/Islamists/terrorists?
Next time you demand I put up an answer to one of your questions, keep in mind you have NEVER answered mine.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 11:02:27 PM
Post by: cc on June 21, 2016, 11:02:27 PM
It wasn't a question.
Anyhow, forget naming a country. Obviously there are none. I've about had enough of this embarrassing silliness for now
So WHY would we deliberately bring in an inherently violent / supremacist / misogynist / counter-to-democracy IDEOLOGY that HATES and Works to Destroy our Western Way of Life with a passion!!!Quote from: "Sig"
Someone, anyone, remind me WHY we would do that.
Oh, and the moral, or rather immoral issue of bringing even more people into a situation that so obviously will become extremely ugly for them when islam brings it all to "crunch time"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:40:40 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:40:40 PM
Right now, adding more Muslims into European countries where conflicts between Muslims and non-Muslims are on the rise would be
Now what if the Muslims living in our country don't have a "crunch time"? What if they are just like all the other immigrant types who have moved here for a better life? What do you say about those people?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:51:09 PM
Post by: RW on June 21, 2016, 11:51:09 PM
The five Muslim majority countries that had female presidents are:
Indonesia, the most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Megawati Sukarnoputri as president.
Pakistan, the second most populous Muslim-majority country, twice (non-consecutively) elected Benazir Bhutto as prime minister.
Bangladesh, the third most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina as prime ministers.
Turkey, the fifth most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Tansu Çiller as prime minister.
In the Muslim majority region of Kosovo, President Atifete Jahjaga was unanimously elected by the Assembly of Kosovo on April 7, 2011
Furthermore, nearly one-third of the Parliament of Egypt- the fifth most populous Muslim majority nation- also consists of women
And not only that, women still hold leadership positions in the Muslim world. They can range from companies, corporations, government, town management, village leaders, etc.
I think its pretty hypocrtical for some Americans to simply diss our religion and people for "oppressing" women, considering that they never actually had a woman leader and discrimination against women is well hidden in US politics
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 12:36:19 AM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 12:36:19 AM
....... You bloody well know the societal norms are centuries behind and just won't admit it ....[/b]Quote from: "cc la femme"
.... I have admitted that actually. ...
I missed that, but now that I know that you have agreed that "the societal norms are centuries behind" ....
there is nothing further to discuss on this
Maybe we "could" now look into our silly suicidal Western twatwaffles who protect ONLY islam, .. and not their own society .. and not the good islamic people now trapped inside the west at the mercy of their own who will ruin it all for them ... and not even their own senseless selves
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 12:59:38 AM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 12:59:38 AM
....... You bloody well know the societal norms are centuries behind and just won't admit it ....[/b]Quote from: "cc la femme"
.... I have admitted that actually. ...
I missed that, but now that I know that you have agreed that "the societal norms are centuries behind" ....
there is nothing further to discuss
Maybe we "could" now look into our silly suicidal Western twatwaffles who protect ONLY islam, .. and not their own society .. and not the good people now trapped inside the west ... and not even their own senseless selves
You post crap about the Islamophobic label while calling people Apologists. Neither are conducive to productive dialogue.
Oh wait, I never called you an Islamophobe.
Nevermind.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 01:02:11 AM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 01:02:11 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 01:11:34 AM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 01:11:34 AM
I don't and won't, Talk is over. It's just a waiting game nowQuote from: "cc la femme"
Riiight.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 22, 2016, 02:59:03 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 22, 2016, 02:59:03 AM
Muslims that don't observe the love of sanitary paper are pretty bad. Their persistence in using the bare left hand on the A-nus, after pushing out a deuce, and then believing that mere communal soap will vanquish E.coli and the distorted ideology that the bacterium won't exist and spread into the general populace after the fact is a goddamn outrage to tell you the truthlQuote from: "Gallium"
Why do I have a feeling that despite this post, you love watching women go ass to mouth.
Blatant ASSPHEMY!!! And very cheeky of you RW!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 03:02:06 AM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 03:02:06 AM
Maybe they're just environmentalists at heart and trying to save paper.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 22, 2016, 04:18:34 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 22, 2016, 04:18:34 AM
Called it.Quote from: "RW"
Maybe they're just environmentalists at heart and trying to save paper.
A mute point really as they wiped out any inkling of forestry a long time ago. Deserts aside...one only has to look at the Indonesian contingent and see the irreversible damage and destruction of both fauna and flora that the self-destructing and over-populating nation has done.
You see...in the Quran it says for the muslim to multiply for a reason. Total dominance.
I say, " Begone lesser and most unwise muslim person...stop overbreeding and have a care for the rest of us who also live on this planet that we call Earth!"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 01:09:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 01:09:09 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 01:56:03 PM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 01:56:03 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
When I read shit like this, I realise how little people truly know about religion and specifically the religion that shaped our culture. That's not even mentioning what little people know about Islam itself.
We've earned and fought for the right to criticize. It wasn't won over night either.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 02:16:58 PM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 02:16:58 PM
I would contest that it is out of fear .... the motives are some weird thingy that has come to be in our fucked up, maybe dying society
We've earned and fought for the right to criticizeQuote
That's the point ... the right to to criticize across the board, not merely "selectively"
Sorry to be repetitive, but this too true toon is what is too often happening in our real not free "selective criticism" real world
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 02:22:57 PM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 02:22:57 PM
It may be "shit" in the your world. It's what is "what is happening" more every day now in the real world.Quote from: "cc la femme"
I would contest that it is out of fear .... the motives are some weird thingy that has come to be in our fucked societyWe've earned and fought for the right to criticizeQuote
That's the point ... the right to to criticize across the board, not merely "selectively"
Sorry to be repetitive, but this too true toon is what is too often happening in our real "selective criticism" real world
I see your cartoon, and raise you this one:
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 02:26:30 PM
Post by: cc on June 22, 2016, 02:26:30 PM
Aw, islam is oppressive!!! Who wooda thot?
Well guess what? It was designed to be
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 02:39:45 PM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 02:39:45 PM
.... while skipping around acknowledging our double standard of "selective criticism" .. our phony freedomQuote from: "cc la femme"
Aw, islam is oppressive!!! Who wooda thot?
Well guess what? It was designed to becc, you are an islamoFAUXbe .. Go to your room
You are welcome to criticise Islam in our culture all you want. For some reason, you think being able to do it means no one can respond to your criticism. Isn't that the beauty of our freedom of speech cc?
Religion is oppressive. Islam is a shining example of that. Why do you keep repeating ad nauseum what we already know?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 05:42:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 05:42:07 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
Even though the founder of their faith or ideology or whatever you want to call it wrote a call to arms, I see Muslims as individuals first.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 07:45:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2016, 07:45:47 PM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 08:28:18 PM
Post by: RW on June 22, 2016, 08:28:18 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 03:24:25 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 03:24:25 AM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
Very well said. I'm an Agnostic Atheist, and have no reason to become religious based on the crimes that humanity has committed both in the name of religion itself and in general society. For me Buddhism seems to be the most wholesome religion that I would ever care to be a part of. It is already a part of me within Wing Chun. Buddhism makes the most perfect sense when it comes to respecting life itself.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 23, 2016, 04:20:13 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 23, 2016, 04:20:13 AM
I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn't
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 04:29:58 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 04:29:58 AM
I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn'tEVERhave to ad words to his belief.
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
I want proof to believe...I don't have a blind faith. I am willing to accept a higher intelligent life form that has the ability to manipulate mankind as we do with plants and with animals in the lab. We'll discuss this later son...I have a dinner reservation with my wife at the moment.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 23, 2016, 04:44:00 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 23, 2016, 04:44:00 AM
Romero is in the same boat... He isn't sure if he wants to give up the idea of a "sky daddy" quite yet..
As I will explain to you, an Atheist doesn't have these thoughts. Stop trying to articulate your belief patterns...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 05:28:37 AM
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 05:28:37 AM
I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn'tEVERhave to ad words to his belief.
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
"Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."
You see, Gallium cannot be an agnostic and an atheist because an atheist disbelieves in God.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 06:07:40 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 06:07:40 AM
I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn'tEVERhave to ad words to his belief.
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
"Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."
You see, Gallium cannot be an agnostic and an atheist because an atheist disbelieves in God.
I believe that if god did exist...she'd be a woman!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 07:06:08 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 07:06:08 AM
Thank you for the truth, Gallium...Quote from: "smell the glove"
Romero is in the same boat... He isn't sure if he wants to give up the idea of a "sky daddy" quite yet..
As I will explain to you, an Atheist doesn't have these thoughts. Stop trying to articulate your belief patterns...
If there was a god and she wasn't anything worthwhile...I would be the God!
Does that sound stupid at all? Think about it....
I might be testing all of you...after all...I represent the good in all forums. It just makes common sense...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 09:54:13 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 09:54:13 AM
I am your God...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2016, 01:03:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2016, 01:03:19 PM
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
I'm well aware of it dude.My Daddy used to be a Division Engineer in Northern Alberta for CN. Eco-terrorists were a fucking problem too, but they are into damage not death.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 01:08:04 PM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 01:08:04 PM
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
I'm well aware of it dude.My Daddy used to be a Division Engineer in Northern Alberta for CN. Eco-terrorists were a fucking problem too, but they are into damage not death.
Fuck off with your
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
I'm well aware of it dude.My Daddy used to be a Division Engineer in Northern Alberta for CN. Eco-terrorists were a fucking problem too, but they are into damage not death.
There was an Islamic plot regarding our rail system that got derailed a while back wasn't there?
WTF do eco-terrorists have against rail?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2016, 01:11:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2016, 01:11:03 PM
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
I'm well aware of it dude.My Daddy used to be a Division Engineer in Northern Alberta for CN. Eco-terrorists were a fucking problem too, but they are into damage not death.
Fuck off with yourdudetalk you let-down! A dude is a sleeve on a camel's cock ya slant -eyed fuck! Hahahahahaha...I'll drop the bomb on you ya yellow twat!
You are not the first effeminate white cocksucker to try and force the Iron Chink to use language more palatable to their virgin ears. Good luck with that
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
Post by: Gallium on June 23, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
At my company we face potential threats to infrastructure and people not from Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus. Islamists would like to take control of a train carrying anhydrous ammonia for example and crash it in a major city causing hundreds, possibly thosands of deaths.
I'm well aware of it dude.My Daddy used to be a Division Engineer in Northern Alberta for CN. Eco-terrorists were a fucking problem too, but they are into damage not death.
Fuck off with yourdudetalk you let-down! A dude is a sleeve on a camel's cock ya slant -eyed fuck! Hahahahahaha...I'll drop the bomb on you ya yellow twat!
You are not the first effeminate white cocksucker to try and force the Iron Chink to use language more palatable to their virgin ears. Good luck with that[size=200]DUDE!![/size]
Fuck sakes...I love ya IRON CHINK!!!! xxxx
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
Post by: RW on June 23, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 24, 2016, 01:21:04 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 24, 2016, 01:21:04 AM
YAY! Another Mel only less interesting.Quote from: "RW"
That's nasty!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:03:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:03:03 AM
Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
Kind of like the Bible, eh?
The violance in the OT is a historic narrative, not a direct order for Christians. There is a huge difference between levitical law intended for the ancient Jews under the old covenant. No where are we as Christians told to make homosexuality illegal or to kill homosexuals. Im not completely educated on the teachings of Catholism...but i do know the bible. Christianity isnt and was never intended to be a theocracy. Ancient Judaism, was. I wont deny or pretend im not aware of Theonomist who think we should all live by levitical laws of thier chosing, or that we dont have fringe and hateful cultish groups claiming scripture as thier authority*coughwestborocough*. But really Isam is an ideology. Muslim is the religious part of that ideology. At what point some muslims break off from that, i dont know. Here in MI we have some predominantly Muslim areas that are diwnright frightening.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
God is both male and female and niether.I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn'tEVERhave to ad words to his belief.
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
"Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."
You see, Gallium cannot be an agnostic and an atheist because an atheist disbelieves in God.
I believe that if god did exist...she'd be a woman!:wink:
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:14:38 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:14:38 AM
I'm an Agnostic Atheist.Quote from: "Gallium"
You are like Romero... You cannot decide...
An Atheist (like myself), doesn'tEVERhave to ad words to his belief.
What the fuck is an "Agnostic?"
"Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."
You see, Gallium cannot be an agnostic and an atheist because an atheist disbelieves in God.
I believe that if god did exist...she'd be a woman!:wink:
A plug and socket?
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
YAY! Another Mel only less interesting.Quote from: "RW"
Why so bitter?
Mimi and Evs managed to sully my good name... Kreeper here did also!
It's too bad, RW, that we weren't in a different universal parallel.
Right now? We'd be cruising top down, in my Mustang GT, throughout any US State you'd want to go to. I'd even let you drive...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:18:18 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:18:18 AM
God is both male and female and niether.Quote from: "Dove"
God doesn't exist. Your "skydaddy" is a figment of your imagination.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
Only a very small percwntafe of wars were religious. Would you like to discuss atheist ideology and the massive body counts of? Why do people always say this about religion when the facts are like 6 or 7 percent of all wars in human history were religious? Its not religion causing war. Its fucked up broken and greedy humanity.Muslims who do not observe the hatred of Islamic texts are A-OK. It's not Muslims that are bad, it's their ideas.Quote from: "Herman"
Even if Islamic texts contain many calls to violence I think most Muslims understand it was written in a much different world from today..
Though I wonder what motivates a convert to Islam who was raised in a Western nation.
ac_umm
I guess every convert has their own reasons.
All religions are offering peace and love. Islam and it's founder offer some for people that have bloodlust. You Christians or say Buddhists turn cheeks and muslimes break em. Think of Buddhism and Christianity as being founded by Ghandi/Mother Theresa types and Islam by Ghengis Khan.
As an agnostic strongly leaning towards atheism, I have no god in this fight. Religion for the most part is belief in fairtales, but it it benign. Islam is not really a religion. Their texts kinda read like the Yuan dynasty plan of conquest. As the Charlie Hedbo attack reminds us, there is a big practical difference between Islam and religions. In fact, the best argument against the equivalence of Christianity and Islam is that no one acts even remotely as if this were true. We feel free to criticize and offend Christians without a second thought. However, antagonizing Muslims takes courage. More courage than a lot of secular types in the West can usually muster.
Very well said. I'm an Agnostic Atheist, and have no reason to become religious based on the crimes that humanity has committed both in the name of religion itself and in general society. For me Buddhism seems to be the most wholesome religion that I would ever care to be a part of. It is already a part of me within Wing Chun. Buddhism makes the most perfect sense when it comes to respecting life itself.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:20:40 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:20:40 AM
YAY! Another Mel only less interesting.Quote from: "RW"
Why so bitter?
Mimi and Evs managed to sully my good name... Kreeper here did also!
It's too bad, RW, that we weren't in a different universal parallel.
Right now? We'd be cruising top down, in my Mustang GT, throughout any US State you'd want to go to. I'd even let you drive...
Don't talk about RW!!! She has a yeast infection...it can get into your mouuuuuuuuuuth!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:21:20 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:21:20 AM
There is no "sky daddy". If you wantvto challange this, bring something stronger than a weak straw man. First, you cannot make a statement that there is no God, that goes against whats rational and logical. There is absolutely no way for you to be sure of that. Also, literally no theist of any faith believes in some daddy in the sky....so that is a fallacy. So me having a sky daddy is a figment of YOUR imagination. Come back with something educated, the anti theist script is tedious. Or be honest about your position. Did a church sonewhere cause you to cry after masturbation and you are still resentful?God is both male and female and niether.Quote from: "Dove"
God doesn't exist. Your "skydaddy" is a figment of your imagination.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:30:15 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:30:15 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
Not one that "holds onto the belief" like Romero, or many others here also...
Your "skydaddy" does not exist. When you die, you rot in the ground.
As much as we'd like to "meet Mom and Dad in Heaven," it won't happen.
Sorry!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:35:51 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:35:51 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:35:57 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:35:57 AM
I cannot convince them, and they cannot convince me!
Live and let live...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:36:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:36:22 AM
Nope, you are an anti theist. And your argument was already literally blasted. This isnt debate, because you have not challanged any of my beliefs. Hell even Dawkins understands you cant make an absolute claim of no God. And again, no theist of any faith believes in a sky daddy. When you can challange biblical belief, we can have a debate worth having. Until then try nit to embarrass educated atheists who understand what they are refuting...because these types of fallacies do. You are not fit for debate. Sit down before you hurt yourself.You are entering into a debate with a true Atheist...Quote from: "smell the glove"
Not one that "holds onto the belief" like Romero, or many others here also...
Your "skydaddy" does not exist. When you die, you rot in the ground.
As much as we'd like to "meet Mom and Dad in Heaven," it won't happen.
Sorry!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:38:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:38:13 AM
No one was trying to. If you want to argue against something its best to actually know how to. Not misrepresent the position you oppose.I try to nip these discussions in the bud right quick...Quote from: "smell the glove"
I cannot convince them, and they cannot convince me!
Live and let live...
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:38:19 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:38:19 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
This isnt debate, because you have not challanged any of my beliefs.Quote from: "Dove"
And I will not. Not now, and not ever.
You have your spiritual beliefs, and I have none!
It will always be that way.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:46:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:46:43 AM
Well if you ever decide to bust through those spiritual and intellectual boundaries again and with that 'im right, youre wrong" dialog, at least be familiar with who our God is. I see actual atheists even BEG other atheists to stop embarrassing them with those sort of claims. Its not an argument. Its intellectual laziness.This isnt debate, because you have not challanged any of my beliefs.Quote from: "Dove"
And I will not. Not now, and not ever.
You have your spiritual beliefs, and I have none!
It will always be that way.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
What may work for Dove, doesn't work for Ace...
I don't suck no skydaddy dick... Never have, and never will.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:52:06 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 09:52:06 AM
I am not like all the others.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:59:11 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 09:59:11 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
No, apparently you sit online getting tanked and spewing self focused, clouded nonsense. Perhaps youll get a visit from Yahweh Shalom, and the scales will drop off. Either way again, if you want to wail and cry over faith....understand the basics first. God is not a sky daddy. Also God doesnt work for me. He isnt a bulter. Christian belief is to deny self. Christ is all, it is about Him, for Him and His glory. Not about us and our comfort in a temporary broken world.Quote from: "Dove"
OK!
Complain to the Mods enough here, and they'll ban my sinful soul! LOLZA!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 10:08:34 AM
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 10:08:34 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:08:44 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:08:44 AM
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:09:53 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:09:53 AM
Even if you weren't debating you lost as soon as you used the words "sky daddy".Quote from: "kiebers"
I "lost?"
OK!
I guess I didn't know you worry about your skydaddy also!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
edit*: And Asian women.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
Italian and Greek women look after their men well.Quote from: "Gallium"ac_blush
I'm Whiter than White!
Only with the White, shall I find happiness!
Now, I've gotta watch out... The Bible-Thumpers are now out to get me! LOLZA!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 10:16:59 AM
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 10:16:59 AM
Even if you weren't debating you lost as soon as you used the words "sky daddy".Quote from: "kiebers"
I "lost?"
OK!
I guess I didn't know you worry about your skydaddy also!
Has nothing to do with believing or not believing. It was ridicule and condescending and that went against your implication that you wouldn't try to change her mind.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
Italian and Greek women look after their men well.Quote from: "Gallium"ac_blush
I'm Whiter than White!
Only with the White, shall I find happiness!
Now, I've gotta watch out... The Bible-Thumpers are now out to get me! LOLZA!
Even Albinos aren't as Aryan as me...the difference with me being Aryan is that I'm not seeking to conquer the world...I just want y'all to accept me as your God. Like the statue of David...but with a very big penis!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
Post by: smell the glove on June 25, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
I now get my drunk ass to bed!
Rest well!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:32:19 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 10:32:19 AM
All is well.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I now get my drunk ass to bed!
Rest well!
Night night youngster...I've still another 6 beers to go before I call it quits. My Viking alcohol has too much blood in it! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 11:19:05 AM
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2016, 11:19:05 AM
Go fuck yourself.Quote from: "smell the glove"
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
Why would i complain to the mods? What did you do? I mean besides look stupid? I dont think really bad and ignorant arguements are against TOS. Besides, we are ALL sinful. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God ;)No, apparently you sit online getting tanked and spewing self focused, clouded nonsense. Perhaps youll get a visit from Yahweh Shalom, and the scales will drop off. Either way again, if you want to wail and cry over faith....understand the basics first. God is not a sky daddy. Also God doesnt work for me. He isnt a bulter. Christian belief is to deny self. Christ is all, it is about Him, for Him and His glory. Not about us and our comfort in a temporary broken world.Quote from: "Dove"
OK!
Complain to the Mods enough here, and they'll ban my sinful soul! LOLZA!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
MGTOW is feminism with a dick. A bunch of men claiming to "go thier way" and do what they should have been doing in the first place...which not being codependent. But yet, they are still so enmeshed in some ridiculous gender war that they sit online clucking like a menopausal den of hens about what victims they are. Dont do it.MGTOW is a very real outlook for me.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 12:04:50 PM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 12:04:50 PM
MGTOW is a very real outlook for me.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
Fuck off Dove, smell the glove!
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 12:07:59 PM
Post by: Gallium on June 25, 2016, 12:07:59 PM
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:35:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:35:34 PM
MGTOW is a very real outlook for me.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
I don't know what MGTOW is Dove.
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:37:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:37:34 PM
And you are fine that way lol.MGTOW is a very real outlook for me.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
I don't know what MGTOW is Dove.
ac_dunno
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
MGTOW is a very real outlook for me.Quote from: "smell the glove"
I'm done with the average Western female. I'm done.
I don't know what MGTOW is Dove.
ac_dunno
Title: Re: It's time to BAN WOMEN
Post by: Gallium on June 27, 2016, 03:11:13 AM
Post by: Gallium on June 27, 2016, 03:11:13 AM
