North Miami police shoot an autistic man's caregiver in the leg while he was laying on the ground with his hands in the air. :swoon:
It is sickening. Seems to happen frequently. At the same time, it's not easy being a Police Officer.
Quote from: "Twenty Dollars"
My younger brother is a policeman in rural Manitoba..
It is not an easy job to do..
Where my brother lives, he is more like a social/outreach worker..
Renee's father is a retired policeman, so she knows how tough the job is..
But, there is no excuse for this..
I hope the officer who fired the shot is charged.
As in the Minneapolis incident, why can't the police taser these suspects?
Why are they so reluctant to user a taser?
If a partner aims the gun at the suspect while the one with the taser administers the electrical charge, then the suspects is momentarily subdued. But at least they don't end up dead, injured or wthout a leg.
Or is there something lacking in a tazer which makes it ineffective?
Clue me in, as I'm not familiar with police/suspect procedures.
What would your brother say about the use of tazers as opposed to guns, Fashionista?
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That's hard to watch without getting angered.
What the hell were the cops thinking?
Some people simply should not be cops. With tensions running so understandably high incidents like this are almost unavoidable.....over reaction on the part of the police because their nerves are on edge coupled with aggression toward the police is volatile combination.
To answer Joe....not all officers are issued tazers and not all officers when they arrive on the scene, have back-up or partners. Sometimes a cop has to make a snap judgement call.....sometimes that judgement call is not the right one and it turns out bad......
Cops a human beings just like the rest of us, sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes their brain runs faster than their training and they do the wrong thing. But for every bad decision made, there are thousands of good decisions made by policemen every day.
In my youth, I wanted desperately to be a cop. But in the current social climate I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Being a cop means you are putting your life on the line for public safety because you give a crap about people and the society you live in. They do it for mediocre pay and and almost no thanks for the people they protect. The good ones do it almost solely out of a sense of duty to society and their fellow man.
In my opinion cops, firefighters, ems workers and all forms of so called first responders deserve the utmost respect....They do the indispensable jobs that no one else wants to do or can do. Without them, society would completely fucked.
Quote from: "Renee"
To answer Joe....not all officers are issued tazers and not all officers when they arrive on the scene, have back-up or partners. Sometimes a cop has to make a snap judgement call.....sometimes that judgement call is not the right one and it turns out bad......
Cops a human beings just like the rest of us, sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes their brain runs faster than their training and they do the wrong thing. But for every bad decision made, there are thousands of good decisions made by policemen every day.
In my youth, I wanted desperately to be a cop. But in the current social climate I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Being a cop means you are putting your life on the line for public safety because you give a crap about people and the society you live in. They do it for mediocre pay and and almost no thanks for the people they protect. The good ones do it almost solely out of a sense of duty to society and their fellow man.
In my opinion cops, firefighters, ems workers and all forms of so called first responders deserve respect....They do the indispensable jobs that no one else wants to do or can do. Without them, society would completely fucked.
The pay and perks for cops here in Canada are pretty good I think.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
To answer Joe....not all officers are issued tazers and not all officers when they arrive on the scene, have back-up or partners. Sometimes a cop has to make a snap judgement call.....sometimes that judgement call is not the right one and it turns out bad......
Cops a human beings just like the rest of us, sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes their brain runs faster than their training and they do the wrong thing. But for every bad decision made, there are thousands of good decisions made by policemen every day.
In my youth, I wanted desperately to be a cop. But in the current social climate I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Being a cop means you are putting your life on the line for public safety because you give a crap about people and the society you live in. They do it for mediocre pay and and almost no thanks for the people they protect. The good ones do it almost solely out of a sense of duty to society and their fellow man.
In my opinion cops, firefighters, ems workers and all forms of so called first responders deserve respect....They do the indispensable jobs that no one else wants to do or can do. Without them, society would completely fucked.
The pay and perks for cops here in Canada are pretty good I think.
I think the latest figures show that on average a patrolman in the US makes around $49,000 a year base salary. Considering most department want their officers to be college educated or have military service under their belt, that's pretty crappy wages. Then add in the possibility of being assaulted, maligned, or even killed in the line of duty and it gets doubly shitty.
I think in my dad's day (1975) he started for around $18,000 a year as a full-time cop. When he retired in 2005 he was making well over 100 thousand a year but that was after overtime, 30 years in, and at a lieutenants pay grade.
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
To answer Joe....not all officers are issued tazers and not all officers when they arrive on the scene, have back-up or partners. Sometimes a cop has to make a snap judgement call.....sometimes that judgement call is not the right one and it turns out bad......
Cops a human beings just like the rest of us, sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes their brain runs faster than their training and they do the wrong thing. But for every bad decision made, there are thousands of good decisions made by policemen every day.
In my youth, I wanted desperately to be a cop. But in the current social climate I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Being a cop means you are putting your life on the line for public safety because you give a crap about people and the society you live in. They do it for mediocre pay and and almost no thanks for the people they protect. The good ones do it almost solely out of a sense of duty to society and their fellow man.
In my opinion cops, firefighters, ems workers and all forms of so called first responders deserve respect....They do the indispensable jobs that no one else wants to do or can do. Without them, society would completely fucked.
The pay and perks for cops here in Canada are pretty good I think.
I think the latest figures show that on average a patrolman in the US makes around $49,000 a year base salary. Considering most department want their officers to be college educated or have military service under their belt, that's pretty crappy wages. Then add in the possibility of being assaulted, maligned, or even killed in the line of duty and it gets doubly shitty.
I think in my dad's day (1975) he started for around $18,000 a year as a full-time cop. When he retired in 2005 he was making well over 100 thousand a year but that was after overtime, 30 years in, and at a lieutenants pay grade.
The pay for first year cops is definitely higher here in Canada. I knew a derrick hand that left the rigs three years ago to be a Saskatoon city cop. He only had a high school diploma.
Edmonton Police Service annual salary schedule
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
They make a lot more than that with overtime which is paid at double time. Plus they get more annual vacation time than what is standard in the private sector. They also get a certain number of paid sick days that can be banked or paid out.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Renee"
To answer Joe....not all officers are issued tazers and not all officers when they arrive on the scene, have back-up or partners. Sometimes a cop has to make a snap judgement call.....sometimes that judgement call is not the right one and it turns out bad......
Cops a human beings just like the rest of us, sometimes they make mistakes. Sometimes their brain runs faster than their training and they do the wrong thing. But for every bad decision made, there are thousands of good decisions made by policemen every day.
In my youth, I wanted desperately to be a cop. But in the current social climate I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Being a cop means you are putting your life on the line for public safety because you give a crap about people and the society you live in. They do it for mediocre pay and and almost no thanks for the people they protect. The good ones do it almost solely out of a sense of duty to society and their fellow man.
In my opinion cops, firefighters, ems workers and all forms of so called first responders deserve respect....They do the indispensable jobs that no one else wants to do or can do. Without them, society would completely fucked.
The pay and perks for cops here in Canada are pretty good I think.
I think the latest figures show that on average a patrolman in the US makes around $49,000 a year base salary. Considering most department want their officers to be college educated or have military service under their belt, that's pretty crappy wages. Then add in the possibility of being assaulted, maligned, or even killed in the line of duty and it gets doubly shitty.
I think in my dad's day (1975) he started for around $18,000 a year as a full-time cop. When he retired in 2005 he was making well over 100 thousand a year but that was after overtime, 30 years in, and at a lieutenants pay grade.
The pay for first year cops is definitely higher here in Canada. I knew a derrick hand that left the rigs three years ago to be a Saskatoon city cop.
That is the bare minimum requirement. However, they would be competing against people with a degree in criminology and military reserve experience.
Only a high school diploma? Good fucking luck making the cut.
Wouldn't want any of those jobs.
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
Quote from: "JOE"
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
I will probably regret this, but what about Mr Crowley?
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
I will probably regret this, but what about Mr Crowley?
There is nothing to discuss about the old crow.
Joe once again is being an asshole by speculating about personal info that is no one's business. Joe thrives on the inappropriate and exhibits bad form in all his posts.
He should be bitch slapped for the stupid shit he tries to pull and the crap he tries to stir up. :mad:
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
I will probably regret this, but what about Mr Crowley?
There is nothing to discuss about the old crow.
Joe once again is being an asshole by speculating about personal info that is no one's business. Joe thrives on the inappropriate and exhibits bad form in all his posts.
He should be bitch slapped for the stupid shit he tries to pull and the crap he tries to stir up. :mad:
Joe likes to know personal information..
He wants to know which country Herman's wife is from.
I respect the shield, and I, personally, don't feel I have ever been treated unfairly by local police... although I didn't always feel that way. When I was a teenager, I used to use controlled substances, and I adopted an attitude that went against a the grain of the duties the police and government take on in our society.
Sometimes, you have to see through others' perspectives to better understand the bigger picture. There were a lot of occasions where I was just walking down the street and an officer just started talking to me about current events, politics, and common life issues that affect us all. Most of them are normal people just trying to get by in a world on edge to persecute them at mass.
Quote from: "shin"
This is what Renee was getting at and I agree with both of you..
I cannot be impartial because my younger brother is an RCMP officer..
There are some people that should be removed from police forces, but they are very few.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
I will probably regret this, but what about Mr Crowley?
There is nothing to discuss about the old crow.
Joe once again is being an asshole by speculating about personal info that is no one's business. Joe thrives on the inappropriate and exhibits bad form in all his posts.
He should be bitch slapped for the stupid shit he tries to pull and the crap he tries to stir up. :mad:
Joe likes to know personal information..
He wants to know which country Herman's wife is from.
Joe likes to stick his nose where it doesn't belong. It's just one of the ways he tries to facilitate his "poke and hope" style of trolling.
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "JOE"
Policemen/women pay a high price to be who they are.
Look at Mr. Crowley. By the end of their careers, they're often burnt out nervous wrecks suffering from a bad case of PTSD.
As the saying goes, a policeman never owns his badge and uniform, it owns him.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Rank Annual*
1st Year Constable $61 134
2nd Year Constable $64 784
3rd Year Constable $75 733
4th Year Constable $83 033
5th Year Constable $91 245
Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $97 632
Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $99 457
Sergeant /Detective $109 494
Staff Sergeant $120 443
I will probably regret this, but what about Mr Crowley?
There is nothing to discuss about the old crow.
Joe once again is being an asshole by speculating about personal info that is no one's business. Joe thrives on the inappropriate and exhibits bad form in all his posts.
He should be bitch slapped for the stupid shit he tries to pull and the crap he tries to stir up. :mad:
Joe likes to know personal information..
He wants to know which country Herman's wife is from.
Joe likes to stick his nose where it doesn't belong. It's just one of the ways he tries to facilitate his "poke and hope" style of trolling.
I gathered that too.
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