http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/canadians-flock-to-b-c-in-search-of-jobs
....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
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In the first quarter of 2016, between January and March, B.C. gained 5,000 more people from other parts of Canada than it lost, Statistics Canada figures show. This made B.C. the largest net recipient of interprovincial migrants in Canada. About half — 2,600 — were from Alberta. This was the second-highest quarterly gain in four years, with only July to September of 2015 higher, at 6,315.
This compares with a net loss of nearly 1,800 people in the first quarter of 2012.
Meanwhile, in Alberta, the number of people entering the province from within Canada has been relatively stable, but there has been a large increase in the number of people leaving, meaning B.C. and Alberta have become mirror images of one another, said Jack Jedwab, president of the Canadian Institute for Identities and Migration.
"The principal driver of interprovincial migration, and migration in general, is economics," Jedwab said. "People are going to jump to the conclusion, I think legitimately, that the oil ... decline, which is a serious decline, has meant that jobs are not as plentiful."
Former Albertan Steven Elliott made the same evaluation. Elliott, a software engineer, moved to Burnaby from Calgary in January. His fiancée, who also works in the tech sector, followed in April. Both found work in their field.
"We started realizing that oil and gas ups and downs were not really a sustainable way to live, so we moved out here for the ... strong tech sector and the more diversified economy," Elliott said.
Several of Elliott's coworkers are also recent arrivals from Calgary, he added.
"I notice a lot of people jumping ship from Alberta, especially a lot of my friends and coworkers from back there are slowly making their way west."
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
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In the first quarter of 2016, between January and March, B.C. gained 5,000 more people from other parts of Canada than it lost, Statistics Canada figures show. This made B.C. the largest net recipient of interprovincial migrants in Canada. About half — 2,600 — were from Alberta. This was the second-highest quarterly gain in four years, with only July to September of 2015 higher, at 6,315.
This compares with a net loss of nearly 1,800 people in the first quarter of 2012.
Meanwhile, in Alberta, the number of people entering the province from within Canada has been relatively stable, but there has been a large increase in the number of people leaving, meaning B.C. and Alberta have become mirror images of one another, said Jack Jedwab, president of the Canadian Institute for Identities and Migration.
"The principal driver of interprovincial migration, and migration in general, is economics," Jedwab said. "People are going to jump to the conclusion, I think legitimately, that the oil ... decline, which is a serious decline, has meant that jobs are not as plentiful."
Former Albertan Steven Elliott made the same evaluation. Elliott, a software engineer, moved to Burnaby from Calgary in January. His fiancée, who also works in the tech sector, followed in April. Both found work in their field.
"We started realizing that oil and gas ups and downs were not really a sustainable way to live, so we moved out here for the ... strong tech sector and the more diversified economy," Elliott said.
Several of Elliott's coworkers are also recent arrivals from Calgary, he added.
"I notice a lot of people jumping ship from Alberta, especially a lot of my friends and coworkers from back there are slowly making their way west."
When I was in high school, we used to get NDP refugees from both BC and Saskie. Now we are stuck with a bunch of social workers and barristas masquerading as a government and you guys are picking up our most ambitious. Don't get too used to it. We will dump Nothead in three years and you could have the dippers back.
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Drop the political opinions or I have to move the thread to the sub for that.
Okie doks. I am happy for BC. It's one of the few bright spots in Canada. It's not exactly booming, but it is decent growth.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
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In the first quarter of 2016, between January and March, B.C. gained 5,000 more people from other parts of Canada than it lost, Statistics Canada figures show. This made B.C. the largest net recipient of interprovincial migrants in Canada. About half — 2,600 — were from Alberta. This was the second-highest quarterly gain in four years, with only July to September of 2015 higher, at 6,315.
This compares with a net loss of nearly 1,800 people in the first quarter of 2012.
Meanwhile, in Alberta, the number of people entering the province from within Canada has been relatively stable, but there has been a large increase in the number of people leaving, meaning B.C. and Alberta have become mirror images of one another, said Jack Jedwab, president of the Canadian Institute for Identities and Migration.
"The principal driver of interprovincial migration, and migration in general, is economics," Jedwab said. "People are going to jump to the conclusion, I think legitimately, that the oil ... decline, which is a serious decline, has meant that jobs are not as plentiful."
Former Albertan Steven Elliott made the same evaluation. Elliott, a software engineer, moved to Burnaby from Calgary in January. His fiancée, who also works in the tech sector, followed in April. Both found work in their field.
"We started realizing that oil and gas ups and downs were not really a sustainable way to live, so we moved out here for the ... strong tech sector and the more diversified economy," Elliott said.
Several of Elliott's coworkers are also recent arrivals from Calgary, he added.
"I notice a lot of people jumping ship from Alberta, especially a lot of my friends and coworkers from back there are slowly making their way west."
When I was in high school, we used to get NDP refugees from both BC and Saskie. Now we are stuck with a bunch of social workers and barristas masquerading as a government and you guys are picking up our most ambitious. Don't get too used to it. We will dump Nothead in three years and you could have the dippers back.
Please Shen Li, no more politics on the main board.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
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In the first quarter of 2016, between January and March, B.C. gained 5,000 more people from other parts of Canada than it lost, Statistics Canada figures show. This made B.C. the largest net recipient of interprovincial migrants in Canada. About half — 2,600 — were from Alberta. This was the second-highest quarterly gain in four years, with only July to September of 2015 higher, at 6,315.
This compares with a net loss of nearly 1,800 people in the first quarter of 2012.
Meanwhile, in Alberta, the number of people entering the province from within Canada has been relatively stable, but there has been a large increase in the number of people leaving, meaning B.C. and Alberta have become mirror images of one another, said Jack Jedwab, president of the Canadian Institute for Identities and Migration.
"The principal driver of interprovincial migration, and migration in general, is economics," Jedwab said. "People are going to jump to the conclusion, I think legitimately, that the oil ... decline, which is a serious decline, has meant that jobs are not as plentiful."
Former Albertan Steven Elliott made the same evaluation. Elliott, a software engineer, moved to Burnaby from Calgary in January. His fiancée, who also works in the tech sector, followed in April. Both found work in their field.
"We started realizing that oil and gas ups and downs were not really a sustainable way to live, so we moved out here for the ... strong tech sector and the more diversified economy," Elliott said.
Several of Elliott's coworkers are also recent arrivals from Calgary, he added.
"I notice a lot of people jumping ship from Alberta, especially a lot of my friends and coworkers from back there are slowly making their way west."
When I was in high school, we used to get NDP refugees from both BC and Saskie. Now we are stuck with a bunch of social workers and barristas masquerading as a government and you guys are picking up our most ambitious. Don't get too used to it. We will dump Nothead in three years and you could have the dippers back.
Please Shen Li, no more politics on the main board.
:beurk:
Shen Li does it because she am a racist, bullying, Sinophobe.
She am.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
How is the economy in Texas these days. Saskatchewan is heavily dependent on oil as well as potash, but unlike Alberta, we have competent government. Brad would never do anything to make a bad situation worse the way Notley is.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
How is the economy in Texas these days. Saskatchewan is heavily dependent on oil as well as potash, but unlike Alberta, we have competent government. Brad would never do anything to make a bad situation worse Notley is.
Texas has about five times as many people as Alberta and about twenty times more than Saskatchewan..
The economy is more diverse than either province.
Texas has a huge software industry.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
It pretty much sucks for oilfield related companies. Royalties are way down. Other industries are doing fair. Health care is always a good field. It will come back. Not the first crash related to oil price and won't be the last. Been working in oil related industry for 40 years. Seen a lot of ups and downs.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
It pretty much sucks for oilfield related companies. Royalties are way down. Other industry is doing fair. Health care is always a good field. It will come back. Not the first crash related to oil price and won't be the last. Been working in oil related industry for 40 years. Seen a lot of ups and downs.
Same as Saskatchewan. Potash is down in price too right now, so we are getting a double whammy.
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....In what has to be a rare reversal of interprovincial migration, workers are leaving the oil patch in search of better opportunities. Hit by the drop in oil prices, Alberta has seen a migration of workers to BC. Usually, it has been the other way around, with workers from BC going to Alberta.
I suppose in Texas terms that's like Austin workers flocking to Houston or DFW.
It pretty much sucks for oilfield related companies. Royalties are way down. Other industry is doing fair. Health care is always a good field. It will come back. Not the first crash related to oil price and won't be the last. Been working in oil related industry for 40 years. Seen a lot of ups and downs.
Same as Saskatchewan. Potash is down in price too right now, so we are getting a double whammy.
We're the slowest we've been since 2009 .
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BC is best right now.
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BC is best right now.
Actually, as a BC resident, I'm not so cocky.
For one, the jobs here are not nearly as high paying as those in Alberta during its oil boom.
Taxes are higher, cost of living is generally higher.
So, it's harder for companies to make a profit and the ordinary working Jane/Joe to make ends meet.
Plus, much of our economy is based on speculation and people moving here.
They come for the mild climate, or to launder their money from foreign destinations.
Much of the wealth created in Alberta was real. Not on debt or future generations and taxes paying for it.
In addition, the recent announcement by the BC government, to regulate the real estate industry and to tax new home purchases by foreign buyers, may put a huge damper on the economy.
I'm hearing from the man in the street, that many deals on the back burner are falling apart because of this new tax and regulations.
So...all that is rosy now may not last. Since much of BC's economy is based on people moving here, and construction of new homes, this is not a good sign, especially when a big chunk of the investment is coming from places like China.
So...we shall see...what effect the new taxes and regulations have on foreign investment and the BC economy as a whole.
A year from now is a better indicator as to where the economy is headed.
Also, there is a provincial election coming up, and the election of an NDP government could put the economy into a tailspin, with more foreigners bailing due to even higher taxes and new regulations.
There are good paying jobs in the resource industry in BC, but they are not on the lower mainland..
And one of BC's natural resources(natural gas) has been down for years.
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BC is best right now.
Actually, as a BC resident, I'm not so cocky.
For one, the jobs here are not nearly as high paying as those in Alberta during its oil boom.
Taxes are higher, cost of living is generally higher.
So, it's harder for companies to make a profit and the ordinary working Jane/Joe to make ends meet.
Plus, much of our economy is based on speculation and people moving here.
They come for the mild climate, or to launder their money from foreign destinations.
Much of the wealth created in Alberta was real. Not on debt or future generations and taxes paying for it.
In addition, the recent announcement by the BC government, to regulate the real estate industry and to tax new home purchases by foreign buyers, may put a huge damper on the economy.
I'm hearing from the man in the street, that many deals on the back burner are falling apart because of this new tax and regulations.
So...all that is rosy now may not last. Since much of BC's economy is based on people moving here, and construction of new homes, this is not a good sign, especially when a big chunk of the investment is coming from places like China.
So...we shall see...what effect the new taxes and regulations have on foreign investment and the BC economy as a whole.
A year from now is a better indicator as to where the economy is headed.
Also, there is a provincial election coming up, and the election of an NDP government could put the economy into a tailspin, with more foreigners bailing due to even higher taxes and new regulations.
All very good points Joe. I realize I should have clarified my post. Canada is under performing. BC looks good only by comparison,
Now that we have finally thrown out the NDP and Alberta has an NDP government, hopefully Manitoba can reverse the brain drain to other provinces.
British Columbia simply must do all it can to help these refugees from Alberta.
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Economic refugees fleeing NDP government. ac_toofunny Good one Lanny.
I saw on the news that many Albertans can't afford dental work since they lost their employer extended medical benefits.
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The best thing British Columbians could do to help hurting Albertans is not repeat Alberta's mistake and elect an NDP government.
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You must be a Manitoban? I grew up in the city and now I live in one of the bedroom communities to the South.
Go Jets.
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You must be a Manitoban? I grew up in the city and now I live in one of the bedroom communities to the South.
Go Jets.
Hi iron horse jockey. :JC_howdy:
I do live in the Peg. Been here since college. I was born in Selkirk.
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You must be a Manitoban? I grew up in the city and now I live in one of the bedroom communities to the South.
Go Jets.
Hi iron horse jockey. :JC_howdy:
I do live in the Peg. Been here since college. I was born in Selkirk.
Amazing, I know someone quite well that hails from Selkirk.
My brother lives in a small town in the middle of Manitoba.
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Which one?