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Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"Shocking indictment by the Department of Justice.



http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/the-horror-of-the-baltimore-police-department/495329/

Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"The mayor and police chief say big changes are needed, but Renee - the expert on all things under the sun - disagrees. Hmmmm

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"Shocking indictment by the Department of Justice.



http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/the-horror-of-the-baltimore-police-department/495329/

Have you ever been to Baltimore, Homo Bob?



"BPD officers made 520 stops for every 1,000 black residents in Baltimore, but only 180 stops for every 1,000 Caucasian residents," the Justice Department report notes."



Do you know why the above statement is probably very true? If you've been to that crumbling, dumpster, shit hole called Baltimore and if you have half a brain, you will automatically know why. If not.....then carry on with your far left, white guilt, race baiting, horseshit.



This is just another example of the on going divisive attitude that the Obama admin has toward the police in this country. And of course you eat it up like cock at a gay bathhouse.



IMHO, anyone who choses to be a cop in a replica of hell like Baltimore, deserves a vote of thanks and all the support government can give them, not this socially far left, diatribe full of agenda driven idiocy.

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"The mayor and police chief say big changes are needed, but Renee - the expert on all things under the sun - disagrees. Hmmmm

ANSWER my question, have you ever been to Baltimore?



The mayor is a politician and the police chief is an appointee of that same politician. I don't give a fuck what they say. Ask the rank and file police officers on the street if you want a real non politically motivated answer.



I'm sure there are problems....mostly due to lack of training which stems from under funding. But you, like most of the smug, leftist, scum, have NO clue what the cops deal with on daily basis in crumbling, shit holes like Baltimore.

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"The mayor and police chief say big changes are needed, but Renee - the expert on all things under the sun - disagrees. Hmmmm

ANSWER my question, have you ever been to Baltimore?



The mayor is a politician and the police chief is an appointee of that same politician. I don't give a fuck what they say. Ask the rank and file police officers on the street if you want a real non politically motivated answer.



I'm sure there are problems....mostly due to lack of training which stems from under funding. But you, like most of the smug, leftist, scum, have NO clue what the cops deal with on daily basis in crumbling, shit holes like Baltimore.

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Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "Gay Boy Roberto"Shocking indictment by the Department of Justice.



http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/08/the-horror-of-the-baltimore-police-department/495329/

Have you ever been to Baltimore, Homo Bob?



"BPD officers made 520 stops for every 1,000 black residents in Baltimore, but only 180 stops for every 1,000 Caucasian residents," the Justice Department report notes."



Do you know why the above statement is probably very true? If you've been to that crumbling, dumpster, shit hole called Baltimore and if you have half a brain, you will automatically know why. If not.....then carry on with your far left, white guilt, race baiting, horseshit.



This is just another example of the on going divisive attitude that the Obama admin has toward the police in this country. And of course you eat it up like cock at a gay bathhouse.



IMHO, anyone who choses to be a cop in a replica of hell like Baltimore, deserves a vote of thanks and all the support government can give them, not this socially far left, diatribe full of agenda driven idiocy.

Why are you excusing this shit and skipping over what has been REPORTED about police actions in the city? The JD has said the police are a part of the problem with the culture of Baltimore, that they abuse the law, abuse blacks, abuse the trust of citizens and abuse each other.  We generally don't pin medals on people who do shit like that.



WTF is with you championing for scum lately Renee?

Quote from: "RW"You're attacking the messenger like a rabid dog while squirming around to try to justify the garbage.  Is that what you "righties" are all about?  All bark and no bite?



The problem is the police in Baltimore are severely broken.  Identifying the why is as important as correcting the problem.  (Gay Boy Roberto isn't the problem BTW.)



Attacking people who talk about it and screaming "leftist scum!" is fucking pointless.  Now maybe you're out of practise when it comes to arguing or maybe you just look for any excuse to be a raging bitch, but I want to tell you that you're making a goddamn ass of yourself.

Quotehave you ever been to Baltimore?

Quote from: "Fashionista"Renee, the root causes you speak of also ring true in the area where my younger works as a policeman..



We should all know better than to believe politicians rather than those that wear the uniform and serve on the front lines.

Quote from: "Renee"Have you ever been to Baltimore, Homo Bob?



"BPD officers made 520 stops for every 1,000 black residents in Baltimore, but only 180 stops for every 1,000 Caucasian residents," the Justice Department report notes."



Do you know why the above statement is probably very true? If you've been to that crumbling, dumpster, shit hole called Baltimore and if you have half a brain, you will automatically know why. If not.....then carry on with your far left, white guilt, race baiting, horseshit.



This is just another example of the on going divisive attitude that the Obama admin has toward the police in this country. And of course you eat it up like cock at a gay bathhouse.



IMHO, anyone who choses to be a cop in a replica of hell like Baltimore, deserves a vote of thanks and all the support government can give them, not this socially far left, diatribe full of agenda driven idiocy.

Quote'Lock Up All The Black Hoodies'



To be clear, the report emphasizes that this is not a case of a few bad apples. The problems are systemic — supervisors, policies, weak investigations and officer culture all play a role, the DOJ found.



The report, based on interviews with more than 500 people and a review of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents, is packed with statistics and analysis. Alongside the numbers, time and again, it highlights individual victims and specific acts of violence.



In many of those cases, the victims of the violence had come forward to file a complaint with the police department. One of the DOJ's findings is that the Baltimore police actively worked to discourage and suppress complaints from citizens. (As MSNBC's Trymaine Lee put it, the investigation took 14 months "to reveal what black folks in the city of Baltimore have known for generations.")



In other cases, the specific example came directly from police records or DOJ observations. The department was on a ride-along when a supervisor told a patrol officer to stop and question a group of young black men for no valid reason. "Make something up," the sergeant said.



"Lock up all the black hoodies," a commander once ordered.



Another officer wrote on Facebook, "Do not treat criminals like citizens."



Then there was a template, supplied by a shift commander to a sergeant and patrol officer, for reporting the arrest of someone for standing near a public housing unit without a "valid reason." That's a "facially unconstitutional detention," the DOJ wrote.



The Baltimore Police routinely stopped pedestrians without reasonable suspicion, the DOJ found — even though 26 out of 27 pedestrian stops don't result in any finding of criminal activity.



Strip-searching should be used in limited circumstances and always in private, the DOJ says, but "BPD officers frequently ignore those requirements" and the department has received more than 60 complaints over the issue in five years.



Baltimore police "routinely use unreasonable force against individuals with mental health disabilities," the DOJ wrote, escalating encounters instead of de-escalating them.



There are many more stories: Police retaliating against residents who ask questions or make complaints, a man in handcuffs being tased five to six times, an officer kicking a man who was handcuffed and following commands, a juvenile and his sister arrested for "loitering" on the steps of their own house, arrests for people "just talking" outside, officers cursing at and threatening citizens, citizens arrested for cursing at officers.



Numerous stories describe retaliation against residents who question or challenge police actions — and against other officers who attempt to speak up for victims. Complaints against individual officers' misconduct were ignored, sometimes for years.



//http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/10/489505940/lock-up-all-the-black-hoodies-doj-report-details-abuses-by-baltimore-police

Quote from: "Renee"
"Yet focusing only on the misdeeds of the Baltimore police force misses the depths of the problem. Baltimore is a strongly Democratic city whose experimentation with progressive principles has proved unable to lift people out from poverty. Its labor and taxation policies have led to an exodus of well-to-do citizens, white and black, so that Baltimore's population has plunged by about a third, from about 940,000 in 1960 to 622,000 in 2013. The question on the table is how to reverse the population decline, which will only come if the city is a decent place for people of all races to live, work, and educate their children."



http://www.hoover.org/research/baltimores-real-police-problem

QuoteBTW, I'll shoot any messenger I please....especially when they have an agenda that demonizes the wrong people and ignores the culpability of the agenda they subscribe to. You of all people know where I'm coming from personally on this issue. If I come off as a raging bitch on this, it's not without reason. And if you don't like it..... you are free to do me the favor and throw me the fuck out of here. :mad:

Quote from: "Fashionista"I have to say I am not surprised that municipal politicians in Baltimore have thrown the police under the bus in order to curry favour with local voters and to take the spotlight off of their own failures..



It's a common tactic for people who are looking out for their own political careers..



If I could exchange Calgary's police service for Baltimore's tomorrow I would assume our fine police service would have the same allegations made about them by Baltimore's leaders..



Perhaps the people of cities like Baltimore with so many social problems should think about exchanging their municipal  politicians.

Quote from: "Fashionista"I have to say I am not surprised that municipal politicians in Baltimore have thrown the police under the bus in order to curry favour with local voters and to take the spotlight off of their own failures..



It's a common tactic for people who are looking out for their own political careers..



If I could exchange Calgary's police service for Baltimore's tomorrow I would assume our fine police service would have the same allegations made about them by Baltimore's leaders..



Perhaps the people of cities like Baltimore with so many social problems should think about exchanging their municipal  politicians.

Quote from: "RW"ROFL!  Never before have I seen such a ridiculous skirting and blame shifting instead of calling to bring scummy assholes to justice in all my life.



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Quote from: "RW"ROFL!  Never before have I seen such a ridiculous skirting and blame shifting instead of calling to bring scummy assholes to justice in all my life.



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I totally agree. So what do you propose be done about the officials in Baltimore who profit from deplorable social conditions? Continue to blame law enforcement?

QuoteIn the agreement in principle, both parties agreed that compliance with the consent decree will be reviewed by an independent monitor.  The agreement in principle highlights specific areas of reform to be included in the consent decree, including:



-Policies, training, data collection and analysis to allow for the assessment of officer activity and to ensure that officers' actions conform to legal and constitutional requirements;



-Technology and infrastructure to ensure capability to effectively monitor officer activity;



-Officer support to ensure that officers are equipped to perform their jobs effectively and constitutionally; and



-Community policing strategies to guide all aspects of BPD's operations and help rebuild the relationship between BPD and the various communities it serves.



The agreement in principle provides a framework for change, but the department will be doing community outreach to solicit input in developing comprehensive reforms.



Throughout the department's investigation, BPD leadership remained receptive to preliminary feedback and technical assistance, and started the process of implementing reforms.  BPD leadership has proactively taken steps to address some of the findings, including updating its policies, instituting new trainings and responding to other issues identified by the department.  While these measures are an important start to cooperative reform, a comprehensive agreement is still needed to remedy all of the department's findings.



//https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-findings-investigation-baltimore-police-department

QuoteReal "big government" and "tyranny" in action: conservatives are silent



There have been no outcries about tyranny and "big government" from Fox News, the broader right-wing new entertainment media, or from Republican opinion leaders and politicians in response to the abuses of power detailed by the Department of Justice report on the Baltimore police. "Principled" conservatives, a group who supposedly value "individual freedom," "small government," and "liberty" suspend those values when they are made to apply to African-Americans. Moreover, the authoritarian inclinations of conservatives in the post-civil rights era means that "big government" and "law enforcement" are embraced if they "protect" white people ("the silent majority" in "real America") from "those people" (black and brown Americans, Muslims, and any nebulous type of "Other"). Political scientists and other researchers have demonstrated that a belief in "law and order" is closely tied to white racial animus and anti-black sentiment. And once again, racism and conservatism are conjoined in America and cannot be easily separated from one another.



In America, conservatives and other members of the right-wing believe that the color line is a type of zero-sum game where one group's ability to live a full and free life dictates that another not be allowed to do so. Their silence about the Baltimore police department's tyrannical behavior against black people reveals how contingent and circumstantial their worries about the perils of "big government" really are.



//http://www.salon.com/2016/08/12/real-big-government-and-tyranny-in-action-the-baltimore-police-are-running-amok-and-conservatives-are-silent/

Quote from: "Meathead"Here are a few facts about Baltimore's so called racist cops.



http://thefederalist.com/2015/05/18/who-caused-baltimores-collapse/

Fact: More than half of the Baltimore City police force is minority.



Fact: Four of the six top commanders are African-American or Hispanic.



Fact: Half of the police officers being prosecuted are African-American.



The protesters point to poverty—and they're right. Poverty has devastated minority communities. But it is left-wing policies Democrats implemented that have created destructive incentives and denied opportunity to generations of young people.

Quote from: "Renee"

Quote from: "RW"You're attacking the messenger like a rabid dog while squirming around to try to justify the garbage.  Is that what you "righties" are all about?  All bark and no bite?



The problem is the police in Baltimore are severely broken.  Identifying the why is as important as correcting the problem.  (Gay Boy Roberto isn't the problem BTW.)



Attacking people who talk about it and screaming "leftist scum!" is fucking pointless.  Now maybe you're out of practise when it comes to arguing or maybe you just look for any excuse to be a raging bitch, but I want to tell you that you're making a goddamn ass of yourself.

This sums up the root of the problem completely.



"Yet focusing only on the misdeeds of the Baltimore police force misses the depths of the problem. Baltimore is a strongly Democratic city whose experimentation with progressive principles has proved unable to lift people out from poverty. Its labor and taxation policies have led to an exodus of well-to-do citizens, white and black, so that Baltimore's population has plunged by about a third, from about 940,000 in 1960 to 622,000 in 2013. The question on the table is how to reverse the population decline, which will only come if the city is a decent place for people of all races to live, work, and educate their children."



http://www.hoover.org/research/baltimores-real-police-problem



BTW, I'll shoot any messenger I please....especially when they have an agenda that demonizes the wrong people and ignores the culpability of the agenda they subscribe to. You of all people know where I'm coming from personally on this issue. If I come off as a raging bitch on this, it's not without reason. And if you don't like it..... you are free to do me the favor and throw me the fuck out of here. :mad: