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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 09, 2013, 06:34:43 PM

Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
I know right to work laws scare the hell out of big labour. Union membership should be optional. Forcing people to pay dues to an organization they may not support is antithetical to democracy.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2013, 10:15:26 PM
I`m a union member and very happy with that..



I like my benefits and working conditions..



It is a big help to me when my family needs me.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Pinay on February 09, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
I'm not a union fan..absolutely there are pros and cons being in a unionized environment but for me the cons outweighs the pros, so for that reason I'm out !   ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: cc on February 10, 2013, 01:56:18 AM
That's OK Fashonista, but do you think others should be forced "to pay dues to an organization they may not support". Isn't that "antithetical to democracy." as some wise person said
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: "cc li tarte"That's OK Fashonista, but do you think others should be forced "to pay dues to an organization they may not support". Isn't that "antithetical to democracy." as some wise person said

If it's forced then no, that isn't right cc..



I would choose my union, but people should have the right to reject it as well.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
Our union-activity is more organized.



Member or not, the worker has to be paid atleast the min. salary that is pointed in the national work contract of that profession. If the contract is broken, there will be a strike if things go bad enough.



All unions are members of the "Finlands work-union central" (translated into something like that ;)).
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our union-activity is more organized.



Member or not, the worker has to be paid atleast the min. salary that is pointed in the national work contract of that profession. If the contract is broken, there will be a strike if things go bad enough.



All unions are members of the "Finlands work-union central" (translated into something like that ;)).

What I think you are saying Odie is that union membership is optional, but the terms of a union contract are not? If that is the case then why would they need unions at all?



I heard labour markets are quite rigid in Scandinavia? Swedes in particular are one the most unhealthy peoples in the world. Far more likely to call in sick than Canadians. Also, very difficult to get rid of lazy inept assholes in those countries. This is what I heard Odie.


Unions are watching that the regulations are being followed. Being a member has it´s benefits.

For example even if I wouldn´t be a member of a union, I would still have to strike if ordered to. My company has to follow union-regulations.

If the electric-engineers strike, I would have to go to strike too.



They are not unhealthy, they are sometimes faking it to get a free day. I for example never get sick. Many work-providers require a proof of sickness (?) from the worker nowadays... Physicians are giving those.

3x warnings and kiss your ass goodbye.



Kinda messy again.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 01:36:19 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteUnions are watching that the regulations are being followed. Being a member has it´s benefits.

For example even if I wouldn´t be a member of a union, I would still have to strike if ordered to. My company has to follow union-regulations.

If the electric-engineers strike, I would have to go to strike too.

Unions have forced their will on all companies? Non-union shops must go on strike because unions demand it? Finland has given too much power to unions and taken too much power away from individuals to decide for themselves. Forced strikes for non-unionized workers?? Unf*cking believable!!


QuoteThey are not unhealthy, they are sometimes faking it to get a free day. I for example never get sick. Many work-providers require a proof of sickness (?) from the worker nowadays... Physicians are giving those.

3x warnings and kiss your ass goodbye.



Kinda messy again.

Oh, I know they are faking it Odie. Sweden is one of the more healthy nations on the planet and so many workers are sick at any given time?? Something stinks there that is for sure.



That is good that employers are demanding proof of illness. Do you mean that three times without proof of illness and a worker is fired?


Trust me, they do not do so lightly. The workers control the union, as long as they are happy, everybody is happy. There are chosen foremen that inform the union-leaders about the unhappiness of the workers.

Strikes have to be just and they have to be validated by court.

Nearly every1 belongs to a union since it benefits us.



We do not want the wallmart-model where workers are being treated like slaves.



Wow, even we list on the "7 the most healthiest people on the planet"-list. lol





The 3 warnings apply to everything. Schedules not met too many times = warning, caught faking it = warning, caught stealing shit = warning etc. It all depends on how severe the indiscretion is.



Drinking too much at the christmas party and punching the boss will get you fired. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteTrust me, they do not do so lightly. The workers control the union, as long as they are happy, everybody is happy. There are chosen foremen that inform the union-leaders about the unhappiness of the workers.

Strikes have to be just and they have to be validated by court.

Nearly every1 belongs to a union since it benefits us.



We do not want the wallmart-model where workers are being treated like slaves.



Wow, even we list on the "7 the most healthiest people on the planet"-list. lol





The 3 warnings apply to everything. Schedules not met too many times = warning, caught faking it = warning, caught stealing shit = warning etc. It all depends on how severe the indiscretion is.



Drinking too much at the christmas party and punching the boss will get you fired.

Unions are big business in North America. They are corrupt and political to their very core. They pay lip service to worker happiness, but it is all about the corrupt fatcats at the top of the organization. Some unions are pretty good, but in unskilled laobur positions they do little to improve wages.



Walmart is not a good example as any retard can work there and in my city it often is handicapped people working at them. If you are skilled here your wages and benefits are really good. In the rich Asian countries it is considered counterproductive to pay unskilled workers a high wage like Scandinavian countries do. It discourages them from acquiring the skills a developed nation needs to stay on top.


Unskilled get snuffed in the interviews. You have to have recommendations+good grades to get a job. Good grades and energetic personality are enough too.

Retards/low-wits are being utilized at some level. They can lift boxes and such. ;)

Our unions are not political since they cannot be controlled by a handful of men. Decisions need to be agreed by the members. Political-parties are not in control.

Unions however invest in certain businesses.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Unions are big business in North America. They are corrupt and political to their very core. They pay lip service to worker happiness, but it is all about the corrupt fatcats at the top of the organization. Some unions are pretty good, but in unskilled laobur positions they do little to improve wages.



Walmart is not a good example as any retard can work there and in my city it often is handicapped people working at them. If you are skilled here your wages and benefits are really good. In the rich Asian countries it is considered counterproductive to pay unskilled workers a high wage like Scandinavian countries do. It discourages them from acquiring the skills a developed nation needs to stay on top.


Unskilled get snuffed in the interviews. You have to have recommendations+good grades to get a job. Good grades and energetic personality are enough too.

Retards/low-wits are being utilized at some level. They can lift boxes and such. ;)

Our unions are not political since they cannot be controlled by a handful of men. Decisions need to be agreed by the members. Political-parties are not in control.

Unions however invest in certain businesses.

Some union pension plans are very, very wealthy in Canada. Some of them are majority shareholders in some very large enterprises.



Is Walmart in Finland? My city has a low unemployment rate and the only people that apply at Wally World are immigrant women with very little English or retards. Their wages are low, so that is all they can get.


No. Walmart would have no market here.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Some union pension plans are very, very wealthy in Canada. Some of them are majority shareholders in some very large enterprises.



Is Walmart in Finland? My city has a low unemployment rate and the only people that apply at Wally World are immigrant women with very little English or retards. Their wages are low, so that is all they can get.


No. Walmart would have no market here.

Why not? Fashionista probably does 90% of her shopping there. :lol:


Not trying to step on any toes here but unless walmart changes it´s products, we won´t buy them. We mostly buy finnish products or scandinavian products.

Yankee products... No way.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Why not? Fashionista probably does 90% of her shopping there. :lol:


Not trying to step on any toes here but unless walmart changes it´s products, we won´t buy them. We mostly buy finnish products or scandinavian products.

Yankee products... No way.

Explain what makes Scandinavian products superior? A lot of my friends love Ikea, but I don't like most of their ugly looking crap.


We have a habit of building our stuff sturdy. Like our houses.

Volvo is like a tank but still ekological.



Our food is more pure. We have purer air and cattle is not laced with growth-hormones.



Ikea is americanized crap-shop.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 03:23:59 PM
Might sound a bit arrogant but we trust the products made by us and other northerners.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 04:01:04 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Explain what makes Scandinavian products superior? A lot of my friends love Ikea, but I don't like most of their ugly looking crap.


We have a habit of building our stuff sturdy. Like our houses.

Volvo is like a tank but still ekological.



Our food is more pure. We have purer air and cattle is not laced with growth-hormones.



Ikea is americanized crap-shop.

1) Our houses are built to withstand our long brutal winters. Yes there have been cases of condo buildings or subdivisions contructed poorly, but they are the exception.



2) Volvo car divison is Chinese owned now and it was owned by Ford before that. Heavy trucks and construction equipment are still Swedish though I believe.



3) You can buy less processed food here, but it is more expensive. Our cattle are loaded with growth hormones though, but Alberta beef is still condidered the best in the world.



4) What type of big box retailers do you have in Scandinavia?


1) Sure, canadians live in the same climate.



2) Volvo is a certain type of quality and the owner does not change that... If they do, volvo ceases to be volvo.



3) Full organic food is in a different category here too, more expensive. Never heard of Alberta beef. Moose beef is pretty organic.



4) Kesko and Arina are big corporations which own near all of our supermarkets. KKK-supermarket, citymarket, prisma, those are the biggest here. Selling mainly made in finland goods. Electronics are either german, finnish or swedish for the most part.

KKK does not mean Ku Klux Klan here. ;)



I don´t recall seeing any canadian products.



By american I mean USA.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
1) Our houses are built to withstand our long brutal winters. Yes there have been cases of condo buildings or subdivisions contructed poorly, but they are the exception.



2) Volvo car divison is Chinese owned now and it was owned by Ford before that. Heavy trucks and construction equipment are still Swedish though I believe.



3) You can buy less processed food here, but it is more expensive. Our cattle are loaded with growth hormones though, but Alberta beef is still condidered the best in the world.



4) What type of big box retailers do you have in Scandinavia?


1) Sure, canadians live in the same climate.



2) Volvo is a certain type of quality and the owner does not change that... If they do, volvo ceases to be volvo.



3) Full organic food is in a different category here too, more expensive. Never heard of Alberta beef. Moose beef is pretty organic.



4) Kesko and Arina are big corporations which own near all of our supermarkets. KKK-supermarket, citymarket, prisma, those are the biggest here. Selling mainly made in finland goods. Electronics are either german, finnish or swedish for the most part.

KKK does not mean Ku Klux Klan here. ;)



I don´t recall seeing any canadian products.



By american I mean USA.

Odie, I buy organic elk meat from a farmer just outside my city. There are lots of people that hunt deer, elk and moose though. Alberta beef is famous for it's marbling.



What makes more expensive European electronics better than Asian ones?



Lots of consumer products made in Canada. Everything from camping equipment to furniture to clothing. Most stuff in our stores are made in China though.


Sure you do. Can´t have nice smooth legs without good food. ;)



Makita is actually good. Sony, samsung also good.

German domestic machines and work-tools last forever.



Yea, I buy american clothing because southern european sizes are too small for me.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Odie, I buy organic elk meat from a farmer just outside my city. There are lots of people that hunt deer, elk and moose though. Alberta beef is famous for it's marbling.



What makes more expensive European electronics better than Asian ones?



Lots of consumer products made in Canada. Everything from camping equipment to furniture to clothing. Most stuff in our stores are made in China though.


Sure you do. Can´t have nice smooth legs without good food. ;)



Makita is actually good. Sony, samsung also good.

German domestic machines and work-tools last forever.



Yea, I buy american clothing because southern european sizes are too small for me.

Haha, they didn't happen by accident Odie.



We have Makita power tools in our garage.


:b



Makita makes one of the best battery-run drills at the moment.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
Percentage of the work force Unionized

Rank      Countries     Amount

# 1        Sweden:    82%     

= 2        Finland:    76%     

= 2        Denmark:    76%     

# 4        Norway:    57%     

# 5        Belgium:    53%     

# 6        Ireland:    45%     

# 7        Austria:    37%     

# 8        Italy:    35%     

# 9        Canada:    30%     

# 10    United Kingdom:    29%     

# 11    Germany:    26%     

# 12    Netherlands:    25%     

# 13    Australia:    25%     

# 14    Japan:    22%     

# 15    New Zealand:    22%     

#16    Switzerland:    22%     

# 17    United States:    13%     

# 18    France:    9%     

   Weighted average:    38.0%  





Would you look at that P A N S Y pretty much the entire list of G 8 countries and also the list with the most civilized liberal ideologies on the planet...the places where the rest of the world wants to live.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:32:57 PM
I stick to the facts and try not to let hormonally influenced reactionary crap enter every facet of my being...but you go gurl, at best I skim over your shite anyways
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
but maybe you should ban me again...I mean you don't like my opinions...that's what you tried before or maybe change the post, change the words in my post...that was workin for your lil bruised ego...until they took that away from you  hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"EU, EU, learn to read before you start babbling like a yappy little chihuahua. The question is why shouldn't workers have the option of not being in a union if the wish?



While we are on the subject of unionization rates, my home city of Shenzhen is about 90% among large enterprises.



In Shenzhen, the unionization rate of the enterprise, especially the big multinationals, is high relative to the national level. Statistics from the Shenzhen Federation of Trade Unions show that, the unionization rate of all enterprises in Shenzhen and that of the world's top 500 companies in Shenzhen have both reached over 90%.



You should move there and we can get a Chinese person in exchange. Nah, they would never go for getting the short end of the stick like that. :lol:




Chinese Unions? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA OMFG that is your funniest yet P A N S Y
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Quit while you've had the stupid slapped the fck off ya K?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 05:45:23 PM
The main thing is that we should stop sending our money to developing countries and invest it to our own businesses.

Force our social-bums and immigrants to work.



We would need a strong leader like we had decades ago.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 05:46:03 PM
Quote from: "EU"Quit while you've had the stupid slapped the fck off ya K?

Who the hell are you and what is with the threat? Are you related to instigator or Gary Oak?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I didn't edit your post either. We have this wonderful feature called word censor. Comes in handy for trolls like you and instigator.




You're absolutely bllshting again to save face?...that's painfully inescapable in your culture...right?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The fact reamins union membership should be optional.




It is  PNZY...here I'll give you a hint, don't hire on with an industry that has Unions fighting for the rights of working people.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 05:57:25 PM
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Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:03:53 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"The main thing is that we should stop sending our money to developing countries and invest it to our own businesses.

Force our social-bums and immigrants to work.



We would need a strong leader like we had decades ago.

There's a book by an Oxford educated, Zambian born economist called Dead Aid. She covers why aid money to African countries is keeping Africa underdeveloped. She has harsh words for people like Bono form U2 as well.


I know that we are not there to help like the media suggests. You would think that all the money we have poured there would have created more than a few wells.

Must be golden wells laced with diamonds.



The fact is that we are spending money on some people we have never even seen. Hundreds of millions are being spent on immigrants in Helsinki alone.

Our government owned pension-organization just invested 290million on some israeli colony-company.



Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:11:02 PM
It makes no sense to send money away when you have none.



It´s like me taking 1000e loan and sending it to some other person and I would have to pay for it... smh
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
I support micro business loans and grants throughout Africa. They have low administrative overhead and the money goes directly to the people who need it.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"It makes no sense to send money away when you have none.



It´s like me taking 1000e loan and sending it to some other person and I would have to pay for it... smh

I agree Odie. What did you mean by this, "Our government owned pension-organization just invested 290million on some israeli colony-company".

Do you mean Israeli kibbutzim?


Probably.

Some kind of shady israeli company which is involved with colonization of palestine. I don´t understand how it benefits us... Israelis mean nothing to us.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:24:05 PM
The national-debt is an attempt to bind us together. Make us slaves to the world-bank.



Before, Finland did not need loans and we had better living conditions still... More money.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
There's a book by an Oxford educated, Zambian born economist called Dead Aid. She covers why aid money to African countries is keeping Africa underdeveloped. She has harsh words for people like Bono form U2 as well.


I know that we are not there to help like the media suggests. You would think that all the money we have poured there would have created more than a few wells.

Must be golden wells laced with diamonds.



The fact is that we are spending money on some people we have never even seen. Hundreds of millions are being spent on immigrants in Helsinki alone.

Our government owned pension-organization just invested 290million on some israeli colony-company.



Makes no sense.

If foreign aid was effective it would have produced green shoots by now. Instead it ends up in the hands of corrupt, bloodthirsty warlords.


The situation in africa is far worse than media shows. U.N. convoys are being raided. Supplies stolen.

There were many white armoured vehicles destroyed in the ditches.



75% of red cross income stays within the organization. These foundations are a billion dollar business. Not helping just making money.



It would be cheaper to send combat-troops to annihilate the warlords and their armies.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 06:41:33 PM
What annoys me is that we have the technology, knowledge and industrial capability to become atleast 10x stronger.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I agree Odie. What did you mean by this, "Our government owned pension-organization just invested 290million on some israeli colony-company".

Do you mean Israeli kibbutzim?


Probably.

Some kind of shady israeli company which is involved with colonization of palestine. I don´t understand how it benefits us... Israelis mean nothing to us.

Oh you mean the development of settlements in greater Israel. I have been to Israel and genrally really like the country. It has very taxes, but a higly educated population and some places like East Jerusalem are a beehive of activity.


I´m sure it´s a nice country and nice people. I wanna visit there myself.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Oh you mean the development of settlements in greater Israel. I have been to Israel and genrally really like the country. It has very taxes, but a higly educated population and some places like East Jerusalem are a beehive of activity.


I´m sure it´s a nice country and nice people. I wanna visit there myself.

It has a very European vibe and great beaches.


Tel Aviv and those israeli girls look good.



I´m going to sleep.

Good night.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
It has a very European vibe and great beaches.


Tel Aviv and those israeli girls look good.



I´m going to sleep.

Good night.

Chinese girls in Canada look better.



Sleep well Odie.


Yes, but the sexy ones whom I know of are already taken. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Chinese girls in Canada look better.



Sleep well Odie.


Yes, but the sexy ones whom I know of are already taken. ;)

Hey, you are not a sound sleeper are you Odie?


I haven´t been sleeping well lately... My leg is sore.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Hey, you are not a sound sleeper are you Odie?


I haven´t been sleeping well lately... My leg is sore.

What happened to your leg? Sports injury?


Yea, we finns like doing some downhill skiing every once in a while. Slammed my leg to a tree nice and hard just the way I like it. Minor fracture, just enough to keep me awake at night.  :lol:
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
What happened to your leg? Sports injury?


Yea, we finns like doing some downhill skiing every once in a while. Slammed my leg to a tree nice and hard just the way I like it. Minor fracture, just enough to keep me awake at night.  :lol:

How long ago did that happen? Are you wearing any kind of cast or splint?


Some kind of blue plastic splint which holds my leg straight.

Just prior to me registering here.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "Shen Li"The fact reamins union membership should be optional.




It is Shen Li...here I'll give you a hint, don't hire on with an industry that has Unions fighting for the rights of working people.

I can give you several examples where that is false and where the pay is below non-unionized shops.


You'll lose that one too P ZEE... no one in there right mind would argue Unionization doesn't translate to Higher Wages, better benefits and better working conditions in 99% of cases....and if Union wages weren't as high as they are, the few non-union outfits you alluded too would not be paying as much as they are.



Some companies will pay more wages than Union shops to keep the Union out...once again fair Union collectively bargained wages are helping to drive up the cost of wages in Non Union positions to try and keep wages at least on par with inflation...Unions doing their part for all of us.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
How long ago did that happen? Are you wearing any kind of cast or splint?


Some kind of blue plastic splint which holds my leg straight.

Just prior to me registering here.

How has this changed your life other than sleeping? Are you able to go about your daily routine minus sports of course?


lol I can walk but I don´t do any field work.

Ice-pack helps.

I only have a routine in eating and excersizing.

I can do some movements.



My woman does the shopping etc. :)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 10:49:29 PM
Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union, electric-union, academic-union, healthcare personnel union (nurses etc.), doctor-union... Literal translations, that´s why they sound stupid.



There´s no union for unskilled retards.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 10:50:49 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
How has this changed your life other than sleeping? Are you able to go about your daily routine minus sports of course?


lol I can walk but I don´t do any field work.

Ice-pack helps.

I only have a routine in eating and excersizing.

I can do some movements.



My woman does the shopping etc. :)

You pig :evil: Misleading an innocent, trusting, faithful woman like me? How could you?


lol funny.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union




Ya taking notes PPPPPPPPPansy?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:10:29 PM
Maybe a bit more cyber flirting...pander on. The point has been made for me.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:11:29 PM
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union




Ya taking notes PPPPPPPPPansy?


Fuck you. You are one of those british faggots, aren´t you?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
Uh no I'm not... but you have filled Pan Zee in on the issue with your post I quoted....that was good... Shin Li's handle before was Pan ZEE... I'm talkin to her.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 11:18:18 PM
I don't recall EU having this much attitude before..
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:18:46 PM
I´m well aware that the unions abroad are not working as they should. In the USA, they are ran over by the mob.



It´s complicated to explain how our unions work.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:19:02 PM
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union




Ya taking notes Shen Li?






buahahahahahaha fckin perfect...read it and weep...how fckin perfect is that...not what you were hopin for huh?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't recall EU having this much attitude before..




haven't called anyone a faggot though, I'll leave that those without intellectual amo
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't recall EU having this much attitude before..


Fashionista would be a member of the union of service-professions if she infact is tossing everybodys salads.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union




Ya taking notes Shen Li?






buahahahahahaha fckin perfect...read it and weep...how fckin perfect is that...not what you were hopin for huh?




did ya catch it PanZ
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "EU"




Ya taking notes Shen Li?






buahahahahahaha fckin perfect...read it and weep...how fckin perfect is that...not what you were hopin for huh?




did ya catch it PanZ


Our unions are unique... Again, I´m well aware they do not function as they should abroad. Nor are as organized.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:27:23 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "EU"




Ya taking notes Shen Li?


Fuck you. You are one of those british faggots, aren´t you?

Oh he's a faggot alright. Has a crush on Gary Oak. Uneducated, hard to read and pissed off at real men like yourself that have actually done things with their lives. No room for people like him in the future.


It has become a great shame to be unemployed around here. Unemployed are usually total rejects of society.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't recall EU having this much attitude before..


Fashionista would be a member of the union of service-professions if she infact is tossing everybodys salads.

I am a member of the provincial union of public employees.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:36:57 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I don't recall EU having this much attitude before..


Fashionista would be a member of the union of service-professions if she infact is tossing everybodys salads.

I am a member of the provincial union of public employees.


I mean, if you lived here.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 11:38:42 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Fashionista would be a member of the union of service-professions if she infact is tossing everybodys salads.

I am a member of the provincial union of public employees.


I mean, if you lived here.

Is it a civil service union?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:40:07 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Oh he's a faggot alright. Has a crush on Gary Oak. Uneducated, hard to read and pissed off at real men like yourself that have actually done things with their lives. No room for people like him in the future.


It has become a great shame to be unemployed around here. Unemployed are usually total rejects of society.

Longshoreman are the total rejects of society here. :lol:


In here, they actually get a decent salary.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I am a member of the provincial union of public employees.


I mean, if you lived here.

Is it a civil service union?


I believe we have no other unions for your profession.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2013, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Longshoreman are the total rejects of society here. :lol:


In here, they actually get a decent salary.

They're overpaid here too. It's monkey work ya know.

It's not right to insult people's jobs Shen Li..
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 10, 2013, 11:45:30 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
This thread was about whether unions should be optional or not. We have good unions here too, but they are few and far between for unskilled losers like EU.




Should I draw ya a fckin picture? k one more time... as per unions should be optional or not.






Quote from: "EU"




They are optional  PNZY...here I'll give you a hint, just don't hire on with or get a job in an industry that has Unions.




as per:for unskilled losers like EU... I thought cyberbf straigtened you out on that already...in his own words




Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union






This thread is apparently about what ever the fck you want it to be...me too..... the only difference is if you read back, I stayed on topic
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:49:11 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Longshoreman are the total rejects of society here. :lol:


In here, they actually get a decent salary.

They're overpaid here too. It's monkey work ya know.


Yea, but it´s hard labour.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 10, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
They're overpaid here too. It's monkey work ya know.


Yea, but it´s hard labour.

As I said it's monkey work that any retard can do. EU is proof of that.


True. Shipyard workers are enjoying big salaries but that is not what every1 is able to do.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
As I said it's monkey work that any retard can do. EU is proof of that.


True. Shipyard workers are enjoying big salaries but that is not what every1 is able to do.

We have unionized tradespeople in Northern Alberta making over 200 k/annum and an amazing pension package. They are highly skilled workers the economy needs though. They spent 4 years becoming a journeyman in their trades. The Canadian economy needs more of em. An advanced economy like ours needs more unskilled labourers like we need more -25 days in the winter.


Maybe I should move to Canada. Our pay-grade... In a word, it sucks.



I´ve heard of finnish people making huge salaries in northern-america.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
We have unionized tradespeople in Northern Alberta making over 200 k/annum and an amazing pension package. They are highly skilled workers the economy needs though. They spent 4 years becoming a journeyman in their trades. The Canadian economy needs more of em. An advanced economy like ours needs more unskilled labourers like we need more -25 days in the winter.


Maybe I should move to Canada. Our pay-grade... In a word, it sucks.



I´ve heard of finnish people making huge salaries in northern-america.

That's what I was curious about Odie? I am a petroleum industry and I know people that have done short term work in Norway. They said the wages were very good, but with the taxation and ridiculously high prices it wasn't worth it.


10bucks for coffee was too much? Many of us work in Norway and send money to Finland.

In Norway even the errand-boy makes 3000e/month.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 12:40:27 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
That's what I was curious about Odie? I am a petroleum industry and I know people that have done short term work in Norway. They said the wages were very good, but with the taxation and ridiculously high prices it wasn't worth it.


10bucks for coffee was too much? Many of us work in Norway and send money to Finland.

In Norway even the errand-boy makes 3000e/month.

Ok, 3000 Euro/month. Is that after tax? We have labourers in the Alberta oilpatch grossing over $7000/month. The work is largely seasonal though.


Yea, I mean the dog-walking errand-boy.



7000/month!? We have wayyyy lower pay-grades. This country is a hell-hole.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 12:41:16 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
That's what I was curious about Odie? I am a petroleum industry and I know people that have done short term work in Norway. They said the wages were very good, but with the taxation and ridiculously high prices it wasn't worth it.


10bucks for coffee was too much? Many of us work in Norway and send money to Finland.

In Norway even the errand-boy makes 3000e/month.

Ok, 3000 Euro/month. Is that after tax? We have labourers in the Alberta oilpatch grossing over $7000/month. The work is largely seasonal though.



A journeyman electrician like yourself could easily make $16,000+/month with some overtime.


I´m moving to Canada.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteYea, I mean the dog-walking errand-boy.

I'm looking for an errand boy. We haven't got a dog though. ;)


All you need to say is "I left my bedroom window open".
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:00:56 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I'm looking for an errand boy. We haven't got a dog though. ;)


All you need to say is "I left my bedroom window open".

Haha, but seriously would you be interested in finding out more about pay and working conditions for electricians in Canada?


Yes. How much does a carton of milk cost for example? Just trying to figure out the price-grade.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:17:42 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Haha, but seriously would you be interested in finding out more about pay and working conditions for electricians in Canada?


Yes. How much does a carton of milk cost for example? Just trying to figure out the price-grade.

Oh jeesh, another thing Fashionista knows better than myself. She is an expert on home economics while I don't really price compare for groceries. Are your cartons of milk one litre? If you mean one litre I think it is about $2/CDN. Two litre about $3.75 I think. We also have 4 litre plastic jugs which we don't buy, but I'm sure Fash does.


Yea, your groceries are a bit pricier.



What are the benefits on top of that 16k/month pay?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
How hard it is to get a citizenship?

Do I need to scam some poor girl into marrying me?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:43:27 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"How hard it is to get a citizenship?

Do I need to scam some poor girl into marrying me?

No, need to scam me Odie. :lol:  Just kidding, there are companies that send recruiters to Europe looking for highly skilled workers like yourself. I know because I have done it myself. There is a new fast track system to put those skilled workers on a quicker to permanent residency. You definitely qualify.



You or I should talk to Fashionista.


I don´t want to go celibate. How many asian girls are there? Do they date northern-europeans? Or am I euro-trash. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:48:03 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
No, need to scam me Odie. :lol:  Just kidding, there are companies that send recruiters to Europe looking for highly skilled workers like yourself. I know because I have done it myself. There is a new fast track system to put those skilled workers on a quicker to permanent residency. You definitely qualify.



You or I should talk to Fashionista.


I don´t want to go celibate. How many asian girls are there? Do they date northern-europeans? Or am I euro-trash. ;)

Heaps of East Asians in Canada and I assure you they will notice you. As will caucasian, black, Aboriginal or any other single or married women.



I am going to bed now, but I will send you a pm first. Nighty night my handsome Nordic Gawd. :D


Sweet dreams, asian goddess.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 11, 2013, 02:16:37 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


10bucks for coffee was too much? Many of us work in Norway and send money to Finland.

In Norway even the errand-boy makes 3000e/month.

Ok, 3000 Euro/month. Is that after tax? We have labourers in the Alberta oilpatch grossing over $7000/month. The work is largely seasonal though.



A journeyman electrician like yourself could easily make $16,000+/month with some overtime.


I´m moving to Canada.






Alberta? You'd best check out the average temperatures for the year first...Oslo is like the Caribbean compared to Northern Alberta...
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 11, 2013, 02:44:33 AM
but at least he knows his stuff Shin...


Quote from: "Odinson"Our unions are only for profession-trained people.

Logistics-union, pilot-union, police-union, dockworker-union




funny same here...I guess most modern Ports in the world are the same...





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Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 11, 2013, 03:10:22 AM
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Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 03:17:18 AM
Quote from: "EU"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Ok, 3000 Euro/month. Is that after tax? We have labourers in the Alberta oilpatch grossing over $7000/month. The work is largely seasonal though.



A journeyman electrician like yourself could easily make $16,000+/month with some overtime.


I´m moving to Canada.






Alberta? You'd best check out the average temperatures for the year first...Oslo is like the Caribbean compared to Northern Alberta...


Well, since I´m from lapland, I think I´m okay.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 03:30:46 AM
-46C "let´s go skinny-dipping!"

-55C "the weather is a bit nippy, don´t you think?"
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 03:40:49 AM
That is exactly why we can´t get along.

We like the cold... You get killed by it.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
I have been in a few unions, and I have to say I hate them all.

The more you pay to be in one the less your represented, and the more someone up top is making off your labor.

The worst thing is they usually pander to a sorry politician that isn't even a good one, and use your union dues, should be illegal.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2013, 12:37:07 PM
I understand why it's done, but I still think it should be illegal since many of the members have no choice but to pay dues if they want to work that job.

Yeah I could get another job someplace, but shouldn't have to do so.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
I hope my senator has the people that will stop a lot of it, people should have a choice.

The Union I was with last seemed to be more for the company anyhow, they gave away so much when they didn't have to do so, and the other company in our state was giving more, and none union.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2013, 12:52:32 PM
I know, but the Unions run the government since the employees are in the union like it or not.

They are the first or second most influential lobbies bribing officials.



Hey gotta go, take care. :)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 11, 2013, 01:07:56 PM
When I move to Canada, I will not join to any union there.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2013, 03:07:38 PM
Hello Odinson, I gave my husband a call about electrician salaries..



He says that a Red Seal electrician can expect a base hourly wage of between $35 and $50 per hour worked not including overtime..



Industrial pays better than residential..



The unionized rates have a gross hourly pay of about $57 per hour worked..



This is the IBEW website for Alberta.

http://ibew424.net/



If you have any questions I would be happy to ask my husband for you..



Good luck in your search Odinson.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Hello Odinson, I gave my husband a call about electrician salaries..



He says that a Red Seal electrician can expect a base hourly wage of between $35 and $50 per hour worked not including overtime..



Industrial pays better than residential..



The unionized rates have a gross hourly pay of about $57 per hour worked..



This is the IBEW website for Alberta.

http://ibew424.net/



If you have any questions I would be happy to ask my husband for you..



Good luck in your search Odinson.


Thank you, sweety pie. ;)

I´m actually a supervisor "Uber electrician" but I can do the field-work.



The hours? How many hours per day?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 09:10:36 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Hello Odinson, I gave my husband a call about electrician salaries..



He says that a Red Seal electrician can expect a base hourly wage of between $35 and $50 per hour worked not including overtime..



Industrial pays better than residential..



The unionized rates have a gross hourly pay of about $57 per hour worked..



This is the IBEW website for Alberta.

http://ibew424.net/



If you have any questions I would be happy to ask my husband for you..



Good luck in your search Odinson.


Thank you, sweety pie. ;)

I´m actually a supervisor "Uber electrician" but I can do the field-work.



The hours? How many hours per day?

I did not know you have supervisory experience..



Your wages would be $45-60 per hour base rate plus a company truck..



In IBEW your totel gross pay would be close to $70 per hour..



You would work an 8 hour day with the option of overtime after that and depending on circumstances it could double wage or 150%..



My husband is also a supervisor and he said he would have little trouble making $200 per year in IBEW and that's without killing himself with overtime hours..



Without overtime and just working in a shop you would make over $80,000 per annum at one of the lower paying jobs..



Most electricians make much more than that though.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Hello Odinson, I gave my husband a call about electrician salaries..



He says that a Red Seal electrician can expect a base hourly wage of between $35 and $50 per hour worked not including overtime..



Industrial pays better than residential..



The unionized rates have a gross hourly pay of about $57 per hour worked..



This is the IBEW website for Alberta.

http://ibew424.net/



If you have any questions I would be happy to ask my husband for you..



Good luck in your search Odinson.


Thank you, sweety pie. ;)

I´m actually a supervisor "Uber electrician" but I can do the field-work.



The hours? How many hours per day?

I did not know you have supervisory experience..



Your wages would be $45-60 per hour base rate plus a company truck..



In IBEW your totel gross pay would be close to $70 per hour..



You would work an 8 hour day with the option of overtime after that and depending on circumstances it could double wage or 150%..



My husband is also a supervisor and he said he would have little trouble making $200 per year in IBEW and that's without killing himself with overtime hours..



Without overtime and just working in a shop you would make over $80,000 per annum at one of the lower paying jobs..



Most electricians make much more than that though.


In Finland there is electrician, electrical-engineer and diploma electrical-engineer.

I draw blueprints for facilities and I supervise the construction.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Thank you, sweety pie. ;)

I´m actually a supervisor "Uber electrician" but I can do the field-work.



The hours? How many hours per day?

I did not know you have supervisory experience..



Your wages would be $45-60 per hour base rate plus a company truck..



In IBEW your totel gross pay would be close to $70 per hour..



You would work an 8 hour day with the option of overtime after that and depending on circumstances it could double wage or 150%..



My husband is also a supervisor and he said he would have little trouble making $200 per year in IBEW and that's without killing himself with overtime hours..



Without overtime and just working in a shop you would make over $80,000 per annum at one of the lower paying jobs..



Most electricians make much more than that though.


In Finland there is electrician, electrical-engineer and diploma electrical-engineer.

I draw blueprints for facilities and I supervise the construction.

My husband apprenticed for 4 years on the job with 8 weeks per year in technical college..



Is this the kind of route you took Odinson?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I did not know you have supervisory experience..



Your wages would be $45-60 per hour base rate plus a company truck..



In IBEW your totel gross pay would be close to $70 per hour..



You would work an 8 hour day with the option of overtime after that and depending on circumstances it could double wage or 150%..



My husband is also a supervisor and he said he would have little trouble making $200 per year in IBEW and that's without killing himself with overtime hours..



Without overtime and just working in a shop you would make over $80,000 per annum at one of the lower paying jobs..



Most electricians make much more than that though.


In Finland there is electrician, electrical-engineer and diploma electrical-engineer.

I draw blueprints for facilities and I supervise the construction.

My husband apprenticed for 4 years on the job with 8 weeks per year in technical college..



Is this the kind of route you took Odinson?


3years of studying to become an electrician, 4years of studying to become an engineer.

There are periods where you can get some real experience by working in a company.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
You could name your price out West Odinson.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"You could name your price out West Odinson.


Wow.

Out here we have a surplus of electricians and engineers.

The government has been creating us far too many.



We are not aware of the fact that we could make heaps of cash elsewhere.



My friend studied to become a "plumming engineer" (that is just a literal translation) because he couldn´t find a job.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


In Finland there is electrician, electrical-engineer and diploma electrical-engineer.

I draw blueprints for facilities and I supervise the construction.

My husband apprenticed for 4 years on the job with 8 weeks per year in technical college..



Is this the kind of route you took Odinson?


3years of studying to become an electrician, 4years of studying to become an engineer.

There are periods where you can get some real experience by working in a company.

My husband is a journeyman electrician, but not an engineer..



Would you like me to ask him what he knows about demand and wages for electrical engineers?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My husband apprenticed for 4 years on the job with 8 weeks per year in technical college..



Is this the kind of route you took Odinson?


3years of studying to become an electrician, 4years of studying to become an engineer.

There are periods where you can get some real experience by working in a company.

My husband is a journeyman electrician, but not an engineer..



Would you like me to ask him what he knows about demand and wages for electrical engineers?


If you would be so kind. :)



I can do field-work.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


3years of studying to become an electrician, 4years of studying to become an engineer.

There are periods where you can get some real experience by working in a company.

My husband is a journeyman electrician, but not an engineer..



Would you like me to ask him what he knows about demand and wages for electrical engineers?


If you would be so kind. :)



I can do field-work.

I would be happy too Odinson..



Would you be willing to work as an electrician?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My husband is a journeyman electrician, but not an engineer..



Would you like me to ask him what he knows about demand and wages for electrical engineers?


If you would be so kind. :)



I can do field-work.

I would be happy too Odinson..



Would you be willing to work as an elcetrician?


Yea, I like field-work.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


If you would be so kind. :)



I can do field-work.

I would be happy too Odinson..



Would you be willing to work as an elcetrician?


Yea, I like field-work.

My husband estimates about $120,000 per annum base rate and based on a 40 hour week..



I will send a link to a third party company that hires engineers..



Check your pm box in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I would be happy too Odinson..



Would you be willing to work as an elcetrician?


Yea, I like field-work.

My husband estimates about $120,000 per annum base rate and based on a 40 hour week..



I will send a link to a third party company that hires engineers..



Check your pm box in a few minutes.


Thank you. :)

2500e/month for electrician here... If you are good.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Yea, I like field-work.

My husband estimates about $120,000 per annum base rate and based on a 40 hour week..



I will send a link to a third party company that hires engineers..



Check your pm box in a few minutes.


Thank you. :)

2500e/month for electrician here... If you are good.

You can make that in one week here and my husband has in the past.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
My husband estimates about $120,000 per annum base rate and based on a 40 hour week..



I will send a link to a third party company that hires engineers..



Check your pm box in a few minutes.


Thank you. :)

2500e/month for electrician here... If you are good.

You can make that in one week here and my husband has in the past.


Knowing that feels like a knife ran to my gut. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
You can make that in one week here and my husband has in the past.


Knowing that feels like a knife ran to my gut. ;)

Are a lot of people having a hard time getting by? Is there a lot of consumer debt like here in Canada? Unless people are getting a lot of help from their parents they must be having a hard time getting by IMO.


Nope. We just live more conservatively.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Are a lot of people having a hard time getting by? Is there a lot of consumer debt like here in Canada? Unless people are getting a lot of help from their parents they must be having a hard time getting by IMO.


Nope. We just live more conservatively.

Debt levels are manageable? One thing that is very expensive here in Alberta is housing. We own a house here in Edmonton and a condo in Fort McMurray and both are overvalued IMO.


They are.

How big is your house and what did it cost?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Debt levels are manageable? One thing that is very expensive here in Alberta is housing. We own a house here in Edmonton and a condo in Fort McMurray and both are overvalued IMO.


They are.

How big is your house and what did it cost?

A lot of people from other provinces in Canada have moved to Alberta to take advantage of the resource boom. As the demand for housing went up so did prices including a few years ago bidding wars. My house in Edmonton is 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath with 2.5 car attached garage on a large lot in a new subdivison. It is worth about $475k right now I estimate. My condo in Fort Mac is 2 bed/2 bath with one surface and one heated underground parking stall. We paid $350k for it.


Hmm interesting.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
A lot of people from other provinces in Canada have moved to Alberta to take advantage of the resource boom. As the demand for housing went up so did prices including a few years ago bidding wars. My house in Edmonton is 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath with 2.5 car attached garage on a large lot in a new subdivison. It is worth about $490k right now I estimate. My condo in Fort Mac is 2 bed/2 bath with one surface and one heated underground parking stall. We paid $350k for it.

Hmm interesting.

How so?


The prices are not bad.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
How so?


The prices are not bad.

I just checked on the net and the price of our house is actually low-ball by quite a bit. We bought in the recession and it has increased in value more than I thought.



Tell me about your house on the Kemi River?


New, white, material wood and stone, single-floor, big windows, big yard, dock, boat, garage, big living room, fireplace, 3 bedrooms, sauna, 2 bathrooms, heated tile-floor... Nice.

This is actually river delta area and my house is on an island
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:35:17 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I just checked on the net and the price of our house is actually low-ball by quite a bit. We bought in the recession and it has increased in value more than I thought.



Tell me about your house on the Kemi River?


New, white, material wood and stone, single-floor, big windows, big yard, dock, boat, garage, big living room, fireplace, 3 bedrooms, sauna, 2 bathrooms, heated tile-floor... Nice.

This is actually river delta area and my house is on an island

Something like that in British Columbia would cost a fortune. How much Odie?


I know that my house is ridicilously expensive but I only paid 200k in euros. It´s worth several times that.

The neighbourhood is quiet and beautiful and close to a city.

Close to the wilderness aswell.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Something like that in British Columbia would cost a fortune. How much Odie?


I know that my house is ridicilously expensive but I only paid 200k in euros. It´s worth several times that.

The neighbourhood is quiet and beautiful and close to a city.

Close to the wilderness aswell.

I live on the prairies, so nothing like that here. In my city the tiniest little two bedroom condo is about $225K. You will never be able to afford a similar house in Western Canada.



How did you get is so f*cking cheap?


It was a gift. I only paid to avoid taxes.



The river looks so damn good. Moonlight bouncing of the surface at evening. Morning mist during summer.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I live on the prairies, so nothing like that here. In my city the tiniest little two bedroom condo is about $225K. You will never be able to afford a similar house in Western Canada.



How did you get is so f*cking cheap?


It was a gift. I only paid to avoid taxes.

From whom? You must have really satisfied her. ;)


From an older foreign rich woman.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
From whom? You must have really satisfied her. ;)


From an older foreign rich woman.

Seriously though, was it your parents?


Uncle. He didn´t need it anymore and he likes me.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 12, 2013, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


New, white, material wood and stone, single-floor, big windows, big yard, dock, boat, garage, big living room, fireplace, 3 bedrooms, sauna, 2 bathrooms, heated tile-floor... Nice.

This is actually river delta area and my house is on an island

Something like that in British Columbia would cost a fortune. How much Odie?


I know that my house is ridicilously expensive but I only paid 200k in euros. It´s worth several times that.

The neighbourhood is quiet and beautiful and close to a city.

Close to the wilderness aswell.

That is very, very cheap Odinson..



Without the lake and dock, would that house be typical of Finnish homes?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:01:10 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Something like that in British Columbia would cost a fortune. How much Odie?


I know that my house is ridicilously expensive but I only paid 200k in euros. It´s worth several times that.

The neighbourhood is quiet and beautiful and close to a city.

Close to the wilderness aswell.

That is very, very cheap Odinson..



Without the lake and dock, would that house be typical of Finnish homes?

River not a lake.

It is above normal.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:03:10 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Seriously though, was it your parents?


Uncle. He didn´t need it anymore and he likes me.

Any brothers or sisters Odie? If so, were they jealous you got the paradise spot and not them?


Brother and a sister. They respect me so they didn´t question whether I deserved it.

Served as a nice bachelor pad little while ago. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:07:53 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Any brothers or sisters Odie? If so, were they jealous you got the paradise spot and not them?


Brother and a sister. They respect me so they didn´t question whether I deserved it.

Served as a nice bachelor pad little while ago. ;)

Do they live in the same area of Finland?


My sister does and my brother lives in Helsinki.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:14:29 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Do they live in the same area of Finland?


My sister does and my brother lives in Helsinki.

Are they older, younger? What do they do for a living?


Ok, I ask questions now.

What does your man do for a living?

Have you ever dated a whiteman?

Do you have any sister or brothers?
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:14:49 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
2nd question answered.



My brother is older and my sister is younger.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 12, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
Okay, I´m being forced to bed.



Good night......oå'o.oo.åå
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 13, 2013, 05:23:32 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
QuoteWhat does your man do for a living?

Power engineer


QuoteHave you ever dated a whiteman?

All my past boyfriends have been white.


QuoteDo you have any sister or brothers?

Nope, I am a product of China's one child policy.


I´m trained to do power-engineering, automation (factories), building electricity etc. Pretty much all except electronics.



Is the power-engineer education held separate in Canada?



Did they kill the extra children? I thought they killed all the female-infants.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 13, 2013, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Power engineer





All my past boyfriends have been white.





Nope, I am a product of China's one child policy.


I´m trained to do power-engineering, automation (factories), building electricity etc. Pretty much all except electronics.



Is the power-engineer education held separate in Canada?



Did they kill the extra children? I thought they killed all the female-infants.

Yes, it is held through the colleges in Canada and one can earn a license for building operator to first class operator.



It was just in the countryside that killing female babies happened, but obviously they did not kill them all or there would no females after 1979. A lot of that is Western exaggeration. My parents told me they wanted a boy and that is fine. Maybe that is why I'm such a tomboy and I like motorcycles.


Are you close to your parents if you don´t mind me asking?



We call them female-dudes. ;) I know this one chick who speaks and acts like a man but still isn´t a lesbian. "I´m going to take a dump" etc. and she even sits like a man with her crotch open and elbows on her knees.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 13, 2013, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Nighty night my handsome Norfic Gawd. Wet er I mean sweet dreams.


It is not easy when your other leg has to be kept straight but it´s doable.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 13, 2013, 12:54:33 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Yes, it is held through the colleges in Canada and one can earn a license for building operator to first class operator.



It was just in the countryside that killing female babies happened, but obviously they did not kill them all or there would no females after 1979. A lot of that is Western exaggeration. My parents told me they wanted a boy and that is fine. Maybe that is why I'm such a tomboy and I like motorcycles.


Are you close to your parents if you don´t mind me asking?



We call them female-dudes. ;) I know this one chick who speaks and acts like a man but still isn´t a lesbian. "I´m going to take a dump" etc. and she even sits like a man with her crotch open and elbows on her knees.

I am very, very close to my parents. My Mommy comes over to my house everyday. I see my Daddy at least 4 times/week.



I just like SOME traditionally male pursuits. I still look female, dress feminine and have no lesbian leanings.


That is good.



I´m used to a female like you. ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Obvious Li on February 13, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I am very, very close to my parents. My Mommy comes over to my house everyday. I see my Daddy at least 4 times/week.



I just like SOME traditionally male pursuits. I still look female, dress feminine and have no lesbian leanings.


That is good.





doesnt seem to matter what asian females do...gardening, dishes, forking pig shit...they always look feminine...maybe its the lack of sweat pants and 80 extra pounds that do it.....but i suspect it is a deeper characteristic

I´m used to a female like you. ;)

I find white women cannot do non-traditional things and be feminine. Every white female engineer I have met is either a dyke or looks like one. Asian women engineers are still very feminine.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 13, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


That is good.





doesnt seem to matter what asian females do...gardening, dishes, forking pig shit...they always look feminine...maybe its the lack of sweat pants and 80 extra pounds that do it.....but i suspect it is a deeper characteristic

I´m used to a female like you. ;)

I find white women cannot do non-traditional things and be feminine. Every white female engineer I have met is either a dyke or looks like one. Asian women engineers are still very feminine.


Kiss my ass, sponge.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Obvious Li on February 13, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
I find white women cannot do non-traditional things and be feminine. Every white female engineer I have met is either a dyke or looks like one. Asian women engineers are still very feminine.


Kiss my ass, sponge.




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Obvious Li on February 14, 2013, 05:03:12 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Kiss my ass, sponge.




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy

You are both great guys and REAL men.


[/b]



lol Shen li..i've been around scandahoovians enough to know they are mostly pussies....but that's ok..i'm sure Odinson is ok......
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 14, 2013, 06:37:34 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"


Kiss my ass, sponge.




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy


Sure, you squeeky indian!
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 14, 2013, 06:51:35 AM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy

You are both great guys and REAL men.


[/b]



lol Shen li..i've been around scandahoovians enough to know they are mostly pussies....but that's ok..i'm sure Odinson is ok......


Sure you have...



My friends bigbrother blasted this one guys head off with a shotgun for saying bad things about his woman.

Little bit extreme.



We are so calm and nice people.  :lol:



An african-american man got beaten to twilight-zone because he padded this one finnish-guys back. He went on a rant on facebook.

My advice is that do not touch the males here unless they signal friendship first.



And the fact that we made the red army fear coming here. "slaughter house" "the white death".

You are a lying little squeeky indian.



Nuff said, you goddamn shithead.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"


Kiss my ass, sponge.




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy


Sure, you squeeky indian!

Obvious Li is a very nice boy Odinson...he's a good cuddler.

  ;)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 14, 2013, 09:28:31 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"




maybe ill  kick your ass in stead...Viking boy


Sure, you squeeky indian!

Obvious Li is a very nice boy Odinson...he's a good cuddler.

  ;)


Your kind keeps us from falling into total nazis.



You generate warm feelings in my heart. Thank you, beautiful.



I remember your kind...
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: EU on February 14, 2013, 10:18:58 AM
Wow...the skinny lil biatch has the boys fightin over her? How long did that take? What a fckin joke you are...a real  Shen Li.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2013, 11:31:37 AM
I wish I could talk Fash into creating a subforum for EU, Gary, instigator and Kala. It would be a safe, monitored environment where they would be free to hit each other over the head as much as they want with foam hammers. It would keep their kindergarten antics off the board so the adults can talk. Like a cyber version of a kiddie table.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Obvious Li on February 14, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
You are both great guys and REAL men.


[/b]



lol Shen li..i've been around scandahoovians enough to know they are mostly pussies....but that's ok..i'm sure Odinson is ok......


Sure you have...



My friends bigbrother blasted this one guys head off with a shotgun for saying bad things about his woman.

Little bit extreme.



We are so calm and nice people.  :lol:



An african-american man got beaten to twilight-zone because he padded this one finnish-guys back. He went on a rant on facebook.

My advice is that do not touch the males here unless they signal friendship first.



And the fact that we made the red army fear coming here. "slaughter house" "the white death".

You are a lying little squeeky indian.



Nuff said, you goddamn shithead.




lol.......it`s ok i`m just fucking with you....now,go back to your corner and lick your nuts...
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Obvious Li on February 14, 2013, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"I wish I could talk Fash into creating a subforum for EU, Gary, instigator and Kala. It would be a safe, monitored environment where they would be free to hit each other over the head as much as they want with foam hammers. It would keep their kindergarten antics off the board so the adults can talk. Like a cyber version of a kiddie table.

 they have one it`s called Heat......
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 16, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Obvious Li"
[/b]



lol Shen li..i've been around scandahoovians enough to know they are mostly pussies....but that's ok..i'm sure Odinson is ok......


Sure you have...



My friends bigbrother blasted this one guys head off with a shotgun for saying bad things about his woman.

Little bit extreme.



We are so calm and nice people.  :lol:



An african-american man got beaten to twilight-zone because he padded this one finnish-guys back. He went on a rant on facebook.

My advice is that do not touch the males here unless they signal friendship first.



And the fact that we made the red army fear coming here. "slaughter house" "the white death".

You are a lying little squeeky indian.



Nuff said, you goddamn shithead.




lol.......it`s ok i`m just fucking with you....now,go back to your corner and lick your nuts...


lol.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 16, 2013, 03:47:47 PM
I´m in no way proud of those things but shit happens.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2013, 05:11:24 PM
For such civilized societies that is not civilized behaviour.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Zetsu on February 21, 2013, 02:02:39 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"^^Uneducated, lazy, churlish, foul mouthed and about as bright as a putrescent stump. Hey women, who wants to take pity on this loser on Valentine's Day?



Nobody? Can't blame yas.


Lol I don't think you can pay any girls to date this anus babbling chimp, the guy is just as ugly as his looks, I've seen a pic of the loser holding a gun trying to act tough.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2013, 08:46:26 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Shen Li"^^Uneducated, lazy, churlish, foul mouthed and about as bright as a putrescent stump. Hey women, who wants to take pity on this loser on Valentine's Day?



Nobody? Can't blame yas.


Lol I don't think you can pay any girls to date this anus babbling chimp, the guy is just as ugly as his looks, I've seen a pic of the loser holding a gun trying to act tough.

Hello Zetsu, very nice to see you.

 :)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2013, 09:25:01 AM
I would need to put my house on a rent if I move abroad.

I ain´t gonna lose this house because it is like a golden nuggett.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2013, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"I would need to put my house on a rent if I move abroad.

I ain´t gonna lose this house because it is like a golden nuggett.

Your house seems like a vacation spot.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2013, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"I would need to put my house on a rent if I move abroad.

I ain´t gonna lose this house because it is like a golden nuggett.

Your house seems like a vacation spot.


Well, in the land of rivers and lakes, many properties have a nice lake or river view.
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Zetsu on February 21, 2013, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Shen Li"^^Uneducated, lazy, churlish, foul mouthed and about as bright as a putrescent stump. Hey women, who wants to take pity on this loser on Valentine's Day?



Nobody? Can't blame yas.


Lol I don't think you can pay any girls to date this anus babbling chimp, the guy is just as ugly as his looks, I've seen a pic of the loser holding a gun trying to act tough.

Hello Zetsu, very nice to see you.

 :)


Hi there Fanshionista  8-)
Title: Re: Unions Should Be Optional
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2013, 09:13:05 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"


Lol I don't think you can pay any girls to date this anus babbling chimp, the guy is just as ugly as his looks, I've seen a pic of the loser holding a gun trying to act tough.

Hello Zetsu, very nice to see you.

 :)


Hi there Fanshionista  8-)

Hello Mr Zetsu...have a nice day.
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