Title: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: JOE on October 04, 2016, 11:14:56 PM
Post by: JOE on October 04, 2016, 11:14:56 PM
Its message seems rather stale.
Perhaps it needs a jolt/revival to renew it?
Or does it? Is that a misconception?
Is the religion always evolving?
What are the religion's more positive aspects?
And the ones it should work on?
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 04, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 04, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
Nazareth never existed. That is a proven fact.
Virgin mom...yeah right.
Die and go to heaven yeah right.
Kiddy fiddlers them Catholics. War mongerers and murderers against the mussies for over 800 years.
Turn water into wine...more bullshit.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:00:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:00:16 AM
Malachi 3:6 For I the Lord do not change
Man changes, but the Lord our God is faithful and does not.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:03:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:03:17 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 12:09:40 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 12:09:40 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 12:10:58 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 12:10:58 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:18:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 12:18:07 AM
JOE, what made you decide to start this thread?Quote from: "Fashionista"
To troll you.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 11:26:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 11:26:03 AM
Bottom fucking line is if you can't live with xtianity texts, don't fucking join.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
There is no such thing as a "benign" religion. They are all subversive, and seek to dominate society with their own beliefs and values.
The sooner we are rid of all religious influence the better off we shall be.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 08:31:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 08:31:59 PM
Benign?Quote from: "Oberon"
There is no such thing as a "benign" religion. They are all subversive, and seek to dominate society with their own beliefs and values.
The sooner we are rid of all religious influence the better off we shall be.
I don't seek to dominate, or impose sharia law on anyone Oberon.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 08:43:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 08:43:39 PM
Religion = mind washing of the gullible.Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"
My faith is not a religion GORDY.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
Benign?Quote from: "Oberon"
There is no such thing as a "benign" religion. They are all subversive, and seek to dominate society with their own beliefs and values.
The sooner we are rid of all religious influence the better off we shall be.
I don't seek to dominate, or impose sharia law on anyone Oberon.
Yet you seek to spread your beliefs all over the world, and for people to behave in accordance with those beliefs, lest they be consigned to eternal hell.
Sharia law is no different to the christian tenets that underpin much of the laws under which we live.
Thou shalf not kill?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
In modern times, thou shalt not marry a person of the same gender. Thou shalt not abort a foetus.
I'm sorry, but one is as bad as the other...you cannot help but try to superimpose YOUR beliefs on others, because you feel a sense of duty in the name of your particular deity.
Religion is a luxury we can no longer afford.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 08:48:21 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 08:48:21 PM
Religion = mind washing of the gullible.Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"
My faith is not a religion GORDY.
Me confuses ting tong wot yo mean ??
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
Religion = mind washing of the gullible.Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"
My faith is not a religion GORDY.
Me confuses ting tong wot yo mean ??
Religion is man made and the leaders of religion are dead..
Joseph Smith, Buddha, and Mohammad are all dead..
Ours is a relationship with God through a living Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 05, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Religion = mind washing of the gullible.Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"
My faith is not a religion GORDY.
Me confuses ting tong wot yo mean ??
Religion is man made and the leaders of religion are dead..
Joseph Smith, Buddha, and Mohammad are all dead..
Ours is a relationship with God through a living Jesus Christ.
As that fat fuck Meatloaf sang '' 2 outa 3 ain't bad. ''
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Romero on October 05, 2016, 09:52:32 PM
Post by: Romero on October 05, 2016, 09:52:32 PM
Religion is man made and the leaders of religion are dead..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Joseph Smith, Buddha, and Mohammad are all dead..
Ours is a relationship with God through a living Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 10:20:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2016, 10:20:17 PM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 05, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
No god, no islam.
Sure, those goofs will come up with another ideology, because the fact is that it is envy of the west that drives them.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 02:25:01 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 02:25:01 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: JOE on October 06, 2016, 05:31:28 AM
Post by: JOE on October 06, 2016, 05:31:28 AM
JOE, what made you decide to start this thread?Quote from: "Fashionista"
Well Fashionista, it came about after I had a discussion with someone when I was sitting in a park.
He asked me if I believed in God and what was written in the Bible.
And I replied, I don't know. And I don't really know.
This upset the guy. He said that my indecisiveness meant that I didn't believe.
With this guy it was black and white.
I also replied to him that I thought man is destroying much of the planet and that the forced behind that are caused by corporate greed and mismanagement. To which he replied that God will one day make it whole again when Jesus comes back to reign again. At which point I cast doubt on that, replying to him that we need to create the conditions necessary to revive the planet. Essentially, he was stating that God could revive the world in an instant if he wanted to with the flick of his wrist.
But I did state to him that Christians have every right to believe that God created the world and in 7 days because science has not proven how it was created or what forces did. There is no eyewitness account to prove the big bang or evolution, hence anyone can believe anything they want to since neither group can truly disprove the other. Personally what I don't like about so called modern science is they claimthey know how the earth was created but then don't follow their own scientific method to back. Up these claims. And that isn't science not even according to the definition they have provided.
Anyways, I never resolved my differences with the man with respect to our world view, but the way he conveyed his message made me think that it was old style Christianity with an old style message. That if Christians want to reach out to people, it has to be practical and have applications to the real world to nake it work. I guess you could say I'm a practical or pragmatic realist. While there are some good ideas in the Bible, they also have to translate into reality to have any meaning in our lives.
So I don't necessarilly disbelieve your faith, I'm not fully convinced that it is completely true.
I suppose that is what you'd call agnostic.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 05:35:39 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 05:35:39 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
JOE, what made you decide to start this thread?Quote from: "Fashionista"
Well Fashionista, it came about after I had a discussion with someone when I was sitting in a park.
He asked me if I believed in God and what was written in the Bible.
And I replied, I don't know. And I don't really know.
This upset the guy. He said that my indecisiveness meant that I didn't believe.
With this guy it was black and white.
I also replied to him that I thought man is destroying much of the planet and that the forced behind that are caused by corporate greed and mismanagement. To which he replied that God will one day make it whole again when Jesus comes back to reign again. At which point I cast doubt on that, replying to him that we need to create the conditions necessary to revive the planet. Essentially, he was stating that God could revive the world in an instant if he wanted to with the flick of his wrist.
But I did state to him that Christians have every right to believe that God created the world and in 7 days because science has not proven how it was created or what forces did. There is no eyewitness account to prove the big bang or evolution, hence anyone can believe anything they want to since neither group can truly disprove the other. Personally what I don't like about so called modern science is they claimthey know how the earth was created but then don't follow their own scientific method to back. Up these claims. And that isn't science not even according to the definition they have provided.
Anyways, I never resolved my differences with the man with respect to our world view, but the way he conveyed his message made me think that it wasold style Christianitywith an old style message. That if Christians want to reach out to people, it has to be practical and have applications to the real world to nake it work. I guess you could say I'm a practical or pragmatic realist. While there are some good ideas in the Bible, they also have to translate into reality to have any meaning in our lives.
So I don't necessarilly disbelieve your faith, I'm not fully convinced that it is completely true.
I suppose that is what you'd call agnostic.
Man changes, but God does not.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 09:13:18 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 06, 2016, 09:13:18 AM
Sik him Flashy...555
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
I didn't READ Joes post cos I knew it would be full of shit.Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"
Sik him Flashy...555
I am not
Uh oh, I am running late for work.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Twenty Dollars on October 06, 2016, 09:45:58 AM
Post by: Twenty Dollars on October 06, 2016, 09:45:58 AM
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Bricktop on October 06, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
Post by: Bricktop on October 06, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
Man changes, but God does not.
Which god?
Yahweh?
Buddha?
Krishna?
Ra?
Man has been inventing gods for his entire existence, and then devising a myriad ways of paying homage to these concocted deities.
Yet, to this day, we have evidence of cave dwelling homo sapiens, we can see the signs of dinosaurs from millions of years ago, we can assess what life was like in the bronze age and we can walk amongst the folly of pharoahs.
Yet there is not ONE...not a single iota...of evidence that establishes the presence of ANY god, christian, buddhist or Mayan. Not a single shred of evidence exists that Jesus actually existed...although there is much evidence that he did not. As stated earlier, archeologists have yet to be able to establish that a place called "Nazareth" actually existed.
Religion and false, if not fraudulent, beliefs are chains around human progress. If we are to move to the next level of social evolution, religion must be abandoned.
Title: Re: Does Christianity need renewal?
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 07:45:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2016, 07:45:45 PM
Man changes, but God does not.
Which god?
Yahweh?
Buddha?
Krishna?
Ra?
Man has been inventing gods for his entire existence, and then devising a myriad ways of paying homage to these concocted deities.
Yet, to this day, we have evidence of cave dwelling homo sapiens, we can see the signs of dinosaurs from millions of years ago, we can assess what life was like in the bronze age and we can walk amongst the folly of pharoahs.
Yet there is not ONE...not a single iota...of evidence that establishes the presence of ANY god, christian, buddhist or Mayan. Not a single shred of evidence exists that Jesus actually existed...although there is much evidence that he did not. As stated earlier, archeologists have yet to be able to establish that a place called "Nazareth" actually existed.
Religion and false, if not fraudulent, beliefs are chains around human progress. If we are to move to the next level of social evolution, religion must be abandoned.
Whoever and what the fuck ever. As I said religion is silly superstition, but what xtians, Mormons, Sikhs, Hindus and Buddhists do is none of our fucking business. Islam on the other hand feigns being a religion, but really is an ideology that demands we submit or die.