Isn't he beautiful??
Its such a tragic shame that he lived in a country which glorifies killing.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/18/498398167/internet-mourns-apparent-death-of-pedals-a-real-stand-up-bear
Nice work, America. You fucking barbarian assholes.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Isn't he beautiful??
Its such a tragic shame that he lived in a country which glorifies killing.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/18/498398167/internet-mourns-apparent-death-of-pedals-a-real-stand-up-bear
Nice work, America. You fucking barbarian assholes.
You know the Iron Chink luvs ya. However, stick the fucking holier than thou shit where the sun don't shine.
			 
			
			
				That's Pedo Bear
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
You know the Iron Chink luvs ya. However, stick the fucking holier than thou shit where the sun don't shine.
If the Chink loves me, where's my ass pic?
This is between me and the barbarians stuck to your ass.
			 
			
			
				Most Americans whose opinions I've seen said they were angry that someone would deliberately kill this unique and interesting creature just for being a unique and interesting creature.
			
			
			
				Angry??
They should be FUCKING FURIOUS. And they should act to make sure this never happens again.
BUT...they won't. They think killing animals is their "right".
They are despicable.
			
			
			
				Bears are killed here in Canada also.  They aren't typically an 'endangered species' here.
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
Black bears are becoming like coyotes in their ability to adapt to urban environments and that is not good.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
You know the Iron Chink luvs ya. However, stick the fucking holier than thou shit where the sun don't shine.
If the Chink loves me, where's my ass pic?
This is between me and the barbarians stuck to your ass.
Please no more rear end photos.
 :beurk:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Isn't he beautiful??
Its such a tragic shame that he lived in a country which glorifies killing.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/18/498398167/internet-mourns-apparent-death-of-pedals-a-real-stand-up-bear
Nice work, America. You fucking barbarian assholes.
It looks like a human wearing a bear costume.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
Hunting is a popular past time in the Scandinavian countries. It's popular in Canada too.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
Hunting is a popular past time in the Scandinavian countries. It's popular in Canada too.
So is rape.
Its time we grew out of these barbaric activities.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
Hunting is a popular past time in the Scandinavian countries. It's popular in Canada too.
So is rape.
Its time we grew out of these barbaric activities.
I am an ex hunter. Even now, if I see a nice buck on my property, it is an endangered species.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Isn't he beautiful??
Its such a tragic shame that he lived in a country which glorifies killing.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/18/498398167/internet-mourns-apparent-death-of-pedals-a-real-stand-up-bear
Nice work, America. You fucking barbarian assholes.
funny video :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
Hunting is a popular past time in the Scandinavian countries. It's popular in Canada too.
So is rape.
Its time we grew out of these barbaric activities.
I am an ex hunter. Even now, if I see a nice buck on my property, it is an endangered species.
Nothing personal, but why?
Do you enjoy killing?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
While I can appreciate how unique this bear is, it seems to have become quite 'acclimated' to wandering around Suburbia.
This is NOT good.  Bears here are either relocated on the double, or shot, if they have shown acclimation.
The damage that a bear can cause is typically fatal, if the bear wants it to be...  It's hard to "fight one off."  These are amazingly powerful animals, and they CANNOT be permitted to 'roam freely, or walk freely in this case.'
I get that bears can be dangerous. I even get that there are times when euthanising them is the only alternative.
But I do NOT get the mentality that thinks its OK to hunt down and kill a defenceless creature for entertainment. At least, I don't get it outside of the world's lunatic asylum, America.
Hunting is a popular past time in the Scandinavian countries. It's popular in Canada too.
So is rape.
Its time we grew out of these barbaric activities.
I am an ex hunter. Even now, if I see a nice buck on my property, it is an endangered species.
Nothing personal, but why?
Do you enjoy killing?
You ever had venison jerky and kolbassa?
			 
			
			
				No.
Do you enjoy killing?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Do you enjoy killing?
As the great Ted Nugent says, "you can't grill it until you kill it".
			 
			
			
				Yet you avoid a simple question.
And if Ted Nugent is "great", you need to expand your musical horizons. Start with Myley Cyrus and work on from there.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
And if Ted Nugent is "great", you need to expand your musical horizons. Start with Myley Cyrus and work on from there.
Yes, I celebrate when I bring down a prize buck or back when I used to hunt moose. I also like shooting pesky badgers that turn small gopher holes into huge holes my cattle can break their legs in. One got into the chicken coop last year and killed every single chicken. I don't shoot coyotes on my property though. They keep the rat and mice population down.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
And if Ted Nugent is "great", you need to expand your musical horizons. Start with Myley Cyrus and work on from there.
Yes, I celebrate when I bring down a prize buck or back when I used to hunt moose. I also like shooting pesky badgers that turn small gopher holes into huge holes my cattle can break their legs in. One got into the chicken coop last year and killed every single chicken. I don't shoot coyotes on my property though. They keep the rat and mice population down.
See, I fail to see any cause for celebration. You possess a high powered firearm, and the animal is defenceless. 
If you need to eradicate an animal that you regard as a pest under the banner of land management, that is perhaps a necessary evil.
But how is killing an animal causing no harm a cause for celebration? Is there courage involved? High levels of skill? Are you staving off starvation?
Or, as I contend, it gives you a sense of false power.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
And if Ted Nugent is "great", you need to expand your musical horizons. Start with Myley Cyrus and work on from there.
Yes, I celebrate when I bring down a prize buck or back when I used to hunt moose. I also like shooting pesky badgers that turn small gopher holes into huge holes my cattle can break their legs in. One got into the chicken coop last year and killed every single chicken. I don't shoot coyotes on my property though. They keep the rat and mice population down.
See, I fail to see any cause for celebration. You possess a high powered firearm, and the animal is defenceless. 
If you need to eradicate an animal that you regard as a pest under the banner of land management, that is perhaps a necessary evil.
But how is killing an animal causing no harm a cause for celebration? Is there courage involved? High levels of skill? Are you staving off starvation?
Or, as I contend, it gives you a sense of false power.
I celebrate because venison and moose is frickin tasty. Hell, I still celebrate when I field dress a deer or back in the day when I hunted moose.
			 
			
			
				Yet you are still not answering the question.
Do you, or do you not, enjoy killing a defenceless, harmless animal?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Do you, or do you not, enjoy killing a defenceless, harmless animal?
I think he told you what he enjoys and why. My ex bf was a hunter, so I know coming home with a kill makes them happy. What they don't enjoy is coming back empty handed.
			 
			
			
				So, sweetass, you see nothing wrong with enjoying the killing of an animal for no other reason but the thrill of killing?
Where's my ass pic you promised?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Where's my ass pic you promised?
I don't think that is what Shen Li is saying at all.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Isn't he beautiful??
Its such a tragic shame that he lived in a country which glorifies killing.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/18/498398167/internet-mourns-apparent-death-of-pedals-a-real-stand-up-bear
Nice work, America. You fucking barbarian assholes.
Poor bear. :sad:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Where's my ass pic you promised?
I don't think that is what Shen Li is saying at all.
She did too!!!
She said her ass is still trim, taut and terrific!!! ac_dance
			 
			
			
				Oberon, are you opposed to fishing too?
			
			
			
				*sigh*....every fucking time I point out the barbarity of killing animals for fun, I get asked the same dumb questions; "are you opposed to fishing?" or "I suppose you don't eat meat".
It disappoints me that those that ask that question seem unable to discern the difference between killing for "pleasure", and domestic farming and fishing.
Fishing for food is fine, although it should be noted that many game fish are now protected and those that hunt them are required to catch and release. Many fish in and around Australia are protected, ranging from a unique species of seadragon to the most ravenous shark.
Fisherman invariably eat what they catch, and although I find the pastime boring, the impact of fishing on our communities is minimal.
What I find repulsive and utterly indefensible is killing animals that live among us for entertainment. We see many images of "game" hunters squatting next to a beautiful animal, feeling smug that they have destroyed the beast for NO purpose other than to satisfy an urge to kill. It is hard to understand why a human would derive pleasure from such barbarity. It is surely not to prove their courage and strength, as it may have been hundreds of years ago when the only weapons were sticks and stones.
Hunting for jollies is an abherration on modern society. If these subhumans are so thrilled by hunting and killing, give them each an AR15 and a couple of clips, put them on a remote island, and pick up the survivors a week later. 
I'd pay to watch these heroes do that.
			
			
			
				Food stocks need to be sustainable.
Shooting animals for sport is so fucked.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
It disappoints me that those that ask that question seem unable to discern the difference between killing for "pleasure", and domestic farming and fishing.
Fishing for food is fine, although it should be noted that many game fish are now protected and those that hunt them are required to catch and release. Many fish in and around Australia are protected, ranging from a unique species of seadragon to the most ravenous shark.
Fisherman invariably eat what they catch, and although I find the pastime boring, the impact of fishing on our communities is minimal.
What I find repulsive and utterly indefensible is killing animals that live among us for entertainment. We see many images of "game" hunters squatting next to a beautiful animal, feeling smug that they have destroyed the beast for NO purpose other than to satisfy an urge to kill. It is hard to understand why a human would derive pleasure from such barbarity. It is surely not to prove their courage and strength, as it may have been hundreds of years ago when the only weapons were sticks and stones.
Hunting for jollies is an abherration on modern society. If these subhumans are so thrilled by hunting and killing, give them each an AR15 and a couple of clips, put them on a remote island, and pick up the survivors a week later. 
I'd pay to watch these heroes do that.
Iron horse jockey only asked you a question, but you berated him as well as got up on your soapbox.
 :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				And you would expect no less, knowing me for as long as you have.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
You can be an asshole at times....you know that right?
			 
			
			
				Yes. I am reminded of that fact many times. 
I try to be sweeter than fucking sugar, but fail comprehensively.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
You can be an asshole all the time....you know that right?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
I
You should leave that to the masters at it like me.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Do you, or do you not, enjoy killing a defenceless, harmless animal?
I already said I do and I gave my reasons why. Venison, moose, ruffed grouse are tastier than factory farm beef and chicken.
Have you never tried wild game?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Do you, or do you not, enjoy killing a defenceless, harmless animal?
I already said I do and I gave my reasons why. Venison, moose, ruffed grouse are tastier than factory farm beef and chicken.
Have you never tried wild game?
No, for obvious reasons. I try not to be hypocritical.
There must be something about the killing mentality that eludes me. Perhaps I'm not human enough. Or too human.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
I
You should leave that to the masters at it like me.
Yes, true. I don't have what it takes to be a malevolent and terrifying presence in a web forum. Just ask Vesna.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Oberon"
I
You should leave that to the masters at it like me.
Yes, true. I don't have what it takes to be a malevolent and terrifying presence in a web forum. Just ask Vesna.
I think I have looked at her forum twice in the past six months.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Oberon"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Oberon"
Do you, or do you not, enjoy killing a defenceless, harmless animal?
I already said I do and I gave my reasons why. Venison, moose, ruffed grouse are tastier than factory farm beef and chicken.
Have you never tried wild game?
No, for obvious reasons. I try not to be hypocritical.
Scared you'll like it?