Title: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 06:55:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 06:55:34 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 08:44:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 08:44:47 PM
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This is not true of most Muslim immigrants Herman.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 10:07:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2016, 10:07:49 PM
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Okay, if moderates are irrelevant, what about nominal muslims or secular Muslims?
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: cc on October 24, 2016, 11:32:39 PM
Post by: cc on October 24, 2016, 11:32:39 PM
Now, "turned" secular
"Nominal" residing within an area of high % islamics .. especially as the % rises, I personally would be very careful with as the chances under those circumstances of following the strong horse increase as the local % increases
And as Herm said, "moderates" in themselves are moot, except that as a whole and in general they allow the Fundy Strong horse to rule and follow it, more and more as the % rises
Believers of islam ... once local % rises ... are, have always been, and always will be lead by the Strong Horses .... who are ALWAYS Fundies
This Strong Horse thing also takes place in many mosques, regardless of the local % ... where the most fervent take the lead and others follow.
That is why we have some very bad mosques despite low % of locals being islamic .. why we have some bad mosques in every area of every country
One has no business trying to assess islamic's motives in being here unless they fully understand the "settler" concept as instructed by islam
Some may come because they want to be part of the West, but many or most ... no matter how you try to slice it ... come for eternal reward given to those who expand islamic presence in non islamic lands
,, the process is called "Hijrah: Migration for the Cause of Allah" ... and is instructed in all 3 books in several ways and areas .... and totally openly in Kranny Chapter 4. Verse 100 .. that expressly promises eternal heaven for anyone settling in non islamic lands ... and expanding islamic presence there
They can be "very nice" and many are without conflicting their reward for being a "settler" / which is bestowed totally for helping expand islam
.. Getting into heaven has nothing to do with being a good boy or girl .... heaven is ONLY given for assisting the expansion of islam .. and islam can be expanded / assisted by several means, .... immigrating being one guaranteed way
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Yeah Right on October 25, 2016, 01:19:15 AM
Post by: Yeah Right on October 25, 2016, 01:19:15 AM
I think you can take a few muslims in and if they are spread out it will mostly be okay.
But if they start to cluster they will take over neighborhoods imposing their own value system and eventually creating no go zones.
If they take over enough neighborhoods then they can start taking over major cities.
The liberals, whether they know it or not, are playing with fire. The history books are filled with countries destroyed by civil wars between people who cannot get along. Most of them with much more in common than westerners and Muslims. What makes liberals/leftists think throwing together two nearly opposite cultures is just going to all work out just fine?
Are they that naive? Are they stupid? Do they not care? Do they want to tear the west apart? I don't know which it is, But they're going to fuck it all up if they get their way .
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:42:34 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:42:34 AM
By "Quote from: "Daisy May"secular islamics", I'm not exactly sure what that is ..... the two words conflict each other
Now, "turned" secularANDdoes not reside within an area of high % islamics is our best friend and best hope, but not a large %
"Nominal" residing within an area of high % islamics .. especially as the % rises, I personally would be very careful with as the chances under those circumstances of following the strong horse increase as the local % increases
And as Herm said, "moderates" in themselves are moot, except that as a whole and in general they allow the Fundy Strong horse to rule and follow it, more and more as the % rises
Believers of islam ... once local % rises ... are, have always been, and always will be lead by the Strong Horses .... who are ALWAYS Fundies
This Strong Horse thing also takes place in many mosques, regardless of the local % ... where the most fervent take the lead and others follow.
That is why we have some very bad mosques despite low % of locals being islamic .. why we have some bad mosques in every area of every country
One has no business trying to assess islamic's motives in being here unless they fully understand the "settler" concept as instructed by islam
Some may come because they want to be part of the West, but many or most ... no matter how you try to slice it ... come for eternal reward given to those who expand islamic presence in non islamic lands
,, the process is called "Hijrah: Migration for the Cause of Allah" ... and is instructed in all 3 books in several ways and areas .... and totally openly in Kranny Chapter 4. Verse 100 .. that expressly promises eternal heaven for anyone settling in non islamic lands ... and expanding islamic presence there
They can be "very nice" and many are without conflicting their reward for being a "settler" / which is bestowed totally for helping expand islamRemember also ... and any honest islamic will tell you ... islam is NOT about life .. . islam is about death -"Life" is ONLY about doing enough to help islam so that one is assured of heaven in death ... it is taught to be nothing more than that
.. Getting into heaven has nothing to do with being a good boy or girl .... heaven is ONLY given for assisting the expansion of islam .. and islam can be expanded / assisted by several means, .... immigrating being one guaranteed wayWe can get into proportional reward and how doing more gets you to an upper floor of heaven (and there are many levels depending on the degree of "help to islam" you choose to give / the "Role" you choose to take up) ..... but merely by immigrating, you at least are guaranteed to get in the front door / ground floor .. and to stay inside forever
There are non practicing or even atheist Jews, or Catholics.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 25, 2016, 02:24:18 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 25, 2016, 02:24:18 PM
By "secular islamics", I'm not exactly sure what that is ..... the two words conflict each otherQuote from: "Daisy May"
Now, "turned" secularANDdoes not reside within an area of high % islamics is our best friend and best hope, but not a large %
"Nominal" residing within an area of high % islamics .. especially as the % rises, I personally would be very careful with as the chances under those circumstances of following the strong horse increase as the local % increases
And as Herm said, "moderates" in themselves are moot, except that as a whole and in general they allow the Fundy Strong horse to rule and follow it, more and more as the % rises
Believers of islam ... once local % rises ... are, have always been, and always will be lead by the Strong Horses .... who are ALWAYS Fundies
This Strong Horse thing also takes place in many mosques, regardless of the local % ... where the most fervent take the lead and others follow.
That is why we have some very bad mosques despite low % of locals being islamic .. why we have some bad mosques in every area of every country
One has no business trying to assess islamic's motives in being here unless they fully understand the "settler" concept as instructed by islam
Some may come because they want to be part of the West, but many or most ... no matter how you try to slice it ... come for eternal reward given to those who expand islamic presence in non islamic lands
,, the process is called "Hijrah: Migration for the Cause of Allah" ... and is instructed in all 3 books in several ways and areas .... and totally openly in Kranny Chapter 4. Verse 100 .. that expressly promises eternal heaven for anyone settling in non islamic lands ... and expanding islamic presence there
They can be "very nice" and many are without conflicting their reward for being a "settler" / which is bestowed totally for helping expand islamRemember also ... and any honest islamic will tell you ... islam is NOT about life .. . islam is about death -"Life" is ONLY about doing enough to help islam so that one is assured of heaven in death ... it is taught to be nothing more than that
.. Getting into heaven has nothing to do with being a good boy or girl .... heaven is ONLY given for assisting the expansion of islam .. and islam can be expanded / assisted by several means, .... immigrating being one guaranteed wayWe can get into proportional reward and how doing more gets you to an upper floor of heaven (and there are many levels depending on the degree of "help to islam" you choose to give / the "Role" you choose to take up) ..... but merely by immigrating, you at least are guaranteed to get in the front door / ground floor .. and to stay inside forever
Where the fuck do you come up with this shit.
Bad mosques...in every area of every country...hahahaha. You're a fucken ting tong.
hee yai men jit baa lao....555
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: cc on October 25, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
Post by: cc on October 25, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
There are non practicing or even atheist Jews, or Catholics.Quote from: "Fashionista"
"a few" non practicing islamics I'm told. It is very difficult for most even those who might want to. islam has its "hooks" ... family and social "non acceptance" pressures
The problem is not them, so long as they don't go all devout at some point. The problem is the devout. So I'm, not sure what the relevance of a few non practising is
Anyhow, Gordo, our ex spurt on everything, assures us there is no problem, so I guess all is well
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: cc on October 25, 2016, 05:24:35 PM
Post by: cc on October 25, 2016, 05:24:35 PM
And why should "we" have to sort them .... Why don't "they" who are on the inside of the club ... and many have a damned good idea as to who they are ... and could easily sort them for us?? Why is that??
As for me, I fail to see why we would bring in such a supremacist based society that contains such elements within itself ... and especially when that society is doing more protection of such elements and than it is doing to solve the problem within its own midst ...
There has been lots of talking about problem solving (meetings, protests, words .. many of which were highlighted on this forum -
We don't need speaking up / words and exclaimed intentions - We need direct help "outing ALL of them" .. from those inside the club ... and in the main are not getting it. To prove that, if they were doing there part "inside" there would be no problem ... but there is
Such is the power of 1. Fundies over regs and of 2. the stick together, protect "your own" ... islam is all that matters thingy ingrained from birth ... loyalty to their own people as vs loyalty to all the people within their country of residence
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:20:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:20:05 PM
I think you can take a few muslims in and if they are spread out it will mostly be okay.
But if they start to cluster they will take over neighborhoods imposing their own value system and eventually creating no go zones.
If they take over enough neighborhoods then they can start taking over major cities .
That is not only inevitable, it is the plan of Islam.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on October 25, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on October 25, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
This thread makes me ashamed of being a Canadian as if it may offend muslim readers.Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"
Your posts make me ashamed your a Canadian too Lanny.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Hornung on October 25, 2016, 08:54:10 PM
Post by: Hornung on October 25, 2016, 08:54:10 PM
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Only a racist, Islamophobe arsehole like Herman thinks Muslim immigrants want to take over.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 10:00:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2016, 10:00:21 PM
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Only a racist, Islamophobe arsehole like Herman thinks Muslim immigrants want to take over.
When you have lived as many years in the places Herman comments about, then you can judge him.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Yeah Right on October 25, 2016, 11:54:31 PM
Post by: Yeah Right on October 25, 2016, 11:54:31 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 07:39:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 07:39:17 AM
Racist Islamophobe defined--Someone winning an argument with a liberal.Quote from: "Yeah Right"
I try not to use those labels even when I disagree Yeah Right,
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Yeah Right on October 26, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
Post by: Yeah Right on October 26, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
Racist Islamophobe defined--Someone winning an argument with a liberal.Quote from: "Yeah Right"
I try not to use those labels even when I disagree Yeah Right,
Sorry, fash I was not directing that at you. It was at this post (below) which I should have quoted.
Only a racist, Islamophobe arsehole like Herman thinks Muslim immigrants want to take over.Quote from: "Hornung"
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 02:59:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 02:59:48 PM
Racist Islamophobe defined--Someone winning an argument with a liberal.Quote from: "Yeah Right"
I try not to use those labels even when I disagree Yeah Right,
I noticed that.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
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Only a racist, Islamophobe arsehole like Herman thinks Muslim immigrants want to take over.
Sticks and stones you pathetic wanker.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 08:52:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 08:52:21 PM
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Only a racist, Islamophobe arsehole like Herman thinks Muslim immigrants want to take over.
Shaddap Hornydung or I'll sit on ur face again and break another pair of ur glasses.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 26, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on October 26, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: cc on October 26, 2016, 09:34:31 PM
Post by: cc on October 26, 2016, 09:34:31 PM
Shaddap Hornydung or I'll sit on ur face again and break another pair of ur glasses.Quote
LOL
Wait a minute ... ho, digger of holes for himself, always used a small "h" for his nick
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 09:37:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 09:37:01 PM
Shaddap Hornydung or I'll sit on ur face again and break another pair of ur glasses.Quote
LOL
Wait a minute ... ho always used a small "h" for his nick
I would think he would be an extra small.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on October 28, 2016, 02:27:08 PM
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on October 28, 2016, 02:27:08 PM
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Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2016, 08:27:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2016, 08:27:54 PM
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Tolerance, inclusiveness and surrender. It's Trudeau's sunny ways.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2016, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2016, 10:55:53 PM
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Nothing different than what one would hear at a Trump rally.
Title: Re: Three Phases of Islamic Immigration
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
During a panel discussion on CTV News last week I was lectured by the two other panelists - one Liberal, one NDP - over my assertion we need to be careful about who we let in as immigrants and refugees.Quote
They both insisted there is no problem with arrivals from other countries, nor will there be.
When I asked about the Shafia family, there was no response, other than to continue to assert that immigrants and refugees pose no danger to our safety or "Canadian values," a term which, sadly, too many people mock.
But it is decidedly not a Canadian value to murder a daughter deemed to have shamed the family.
On June 30, 2009 in Kingston, Ontario, Shafia sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, along with Rona Amir Mohammad, 50, were found dead inside a submerged car.
Zainab, Sahar, and Geeti were the daughters of Mohammad Shafia, and his wife Tooba Mohammad Yahya.
The couple also had a son Hamed.
Rona, who was infertile, was the first wife of Mohammad Shafia in their polygamous household.
Mohammad, Tooba Yahya, and Hamed were found guilty of four counts of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder under the guise of so-called honour killings.
The family were immigrants from Afghanistan.
In 2010, Postmedia News reported: "Dr. Amin Muhammad is a psychiatr ist at Memorial University in St. John's, N.L., who is currently working on a report for the federal government about honour killings in Canada. He said there've been 13 such cases in the country since 2002."
Also not a Canadian value is the practice of female genital mutilation (FGM) which bears no similarity in purpose or effect to male circumcision.
A report in the Ottawa Citizen last year tells us, "An analysis of the 2011 Canadian census and UNICEF's statistics on the prevalence of FGM in the communities that practice it indicates there could be upwards of 80,000 survivors living in Canada - including thousands of young girls and teenagers - and yet there is little help available here."
That number indicates there are many people living in Canada who believe in this abhorrent practice.
While there seems to be little research on whether it is being carried out in Canada, it's suspected young girls are taken to other countries to have the horrible procedure done.
Who do we have here from other countries and what do they believe about Western democracy and human rights?
In 2008, then federal auditor general Sheila Fraser reported Canada's border agency had lost track of 41,000 illegal immigrants, noting this was, "jeopardizing the integrity of Canada's immigration program".
All of those people were under deportation orders, but we didn't know then, and may still not know, where they went.
Why were they deemed ineligible? Was it safe to let them go free?
Several of the terrorists that attacked Paris came in to Europe through Greece, posing as Syrian refugees. Could the same thing happen here?
Obviously, if we are so naive and careless as to assume that it never could happen.
Canada has always punched above its weight in accepting immigrants and refugees.
We can take pride in that and should continue to do so.
I am not saying there is a flood of dangerous people coming into Canada. But it is dangerous to act as if there couldn't be any.http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/01/canadas-naive-about-immigrants-refugees