How much has the media shaped the way you feel about different ethnic groups?
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Excellent thread shin.
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This was one of the most popular topics on the old Asian American forums..
I have some things to say on this subject and I am sure Shen Li, and Seoul will give their two cents and possibly Herman will too..
Unfortunately, I have to go to work now, but I will be back at either lunch or after work to participate in this thread.
COPS is like 99 % chasing those low life niggers.
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Excellent thread shin.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
This was one of the most popular topics on the old Asian American forums..
I have some things to say on this subject and I am sure Shen Li, and Seoul will give their two cents and possibly Herman will too..
Unfortunately, I have to go to work now, but I will be back at either lunch or after work to participate in this thread.
I remember a lot of those guys would use their perceptions of Asians in the media to portray themselves as victims of the man. A bit of a stretch in my opinion.
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I only know this subject as it relates to East Asians..
One of the most common complaints of some young East Asian men is that American media stereotypes them as asexual or sexually undesirable..
On the old Asian American forums, there was resentment against East Asian women in interracial relationships, including yours truly..
They thought we were brainwashed or whitewashed by the media and
I have a younger brother who believed that too, but he did not blame anyone outside the media though..
Even though I was sometimes the focus of their anger, I do understand their feelings..
It's not easy being a young man anywhere and then being a visible minority on top of that makes adolescence even more problematic..
Added to this are the traditional cultural expectations of East Asian parents in a permissive North American society..
Most of the young men that I used to post with have made a successful transition to manhood..
I would like to know about this through the eyes of other minority groups.
Interesting subject.
I'm probably stating the obvious, but I think there are other important factors beyond the media that get weighed when people assess group behavior.
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I was on, the majority opinion was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
yes, I found that interesting. I could be wrong, but I think the tendency (of course there are numerous exceptions) is for people to be attracted to those most like them. And if one lives in a majority white country a white woman is more likely to opt for the white guy even if the Asian guy is equally attractive or perhaps slightly more so.
Just as I would expect if a white guy went to a mostly Asian country the same would happen in reverse (Asian women would generally prefer Asian men)
A more complicated question would be what influence, if any, would living in a majoirty white country do to the attraction of Asians to other Asians (or living in a majority asian country do to whites being attracted to other whites)
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
That is certainly part of it Yeah Right..
East Asians, both male and especially female have high rates of ir in the USA..
Another reason of course is that most East Asians South of the border live in predominantly Caucasian areas.
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I only know this subject as it relates to East Asians..
One of the most common complaints of some young East Asian men is that American media stereotypes them as asexual or sexually undesirable..
On the old Asian American forums, there was resentment against East Asian women in interracial relationships, including yours truly..
They thought we were brainwashed or whitewashed by the media and
I have a younger brother who believed that too, but he did not blame anyone outside the media though..
Even though I was sometimes the focus of their anger, I do understand their feelings..
It's not easy being a young man anywhere and then being a visible minority on top of that makes adolescence even more problematic..
Added to this are the traditional cultural expectations of East Asian parents in a permissive North American society..
Most of the young men that I used to post with have made a successful transition to manhood..
I would like to know about this through the eyes of other minority groups.
Some of them were really pathetic. They would not have known what to do with a gal even if they could get one.
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People are sheep and will believe anything they
We are all people...same inside we all wear a different canvas....seeing is selling and media knows that....more people need to use their brains....im fuckin tired today and i want some pho...
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Some of them were really pathetic. They would not have known what to do with a gal even if they could get one.
The crybabies contradicted themselves too. They would say that the media alone was responsible for what men and women like and Hollywood makes Asian guys asexual to women.
Naturally, the next question would be, I guess you are a loser with women. The answer was always, nah I get lots of chicks, especially white ones. Hey, you just said, white chicks don't like Asian dudes because of Hollywood stereotypes?
It's all fucking horseshit. Either a guy has game and is desirable or he isn't. It doesn't matter what drivel Hollywood churns out. Confident, good looking, affluent men get us. Short, little crybabies with no money, whine on the internet on Saturday night.
The worst stereotype is MEN.
The Simpsons, Family Guy, Married With Children, The Office, Everybody Loves Raymond, Two and a Half Men, and a horde of others make men the scapegoats for sharp women and savvy kids.
How many movies base their comedic lines on humiliating and degrading men?
And many of these "comedies" (God help us should they actually make us laugh) are watched by young children.
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The Simpsons, Family Guy, Married With Children, The Office, Everybody Loves Raymond, Two and a Half Men, and a horde of others make men the scapegoats for sharp women and savvy kids.
How many movies base their comedic lines on humiliating and degrading men?
And many of these "comedies" (God help us should they actually make us laugh) are watched by young children.
Correction, only white men.
Point well made.
My father was a member of the media but he only wanted to report the truth and not embellish it nor conceal any parts of it.
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That is rare today.
Yes, it is at least in the US most mainstream media people are just paid propagandists for the democrat party.
And its not just the news media
Apparently ESPN the American sports newtwork has lost a lot of viewers because it has admittedly gone left wing
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/clay-waters/2016/11/17/espns-public-editor-agrees-viewers-network-has-moved-leftward
Why would someone want to put politics in sports anyway?
One word.
$$$$$$.
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That is certainly part of it Yeah Right..
East Asians, both male and especially female have high rates of ir in the USA..
Another reason of course is that most East Asians South of the border live in predominantly Caucasian areas.
Fash, I looked all over but I can't figure out what IR is, I just got Interest Rates and Injured Reserve :confused1: . I doubt you meant either one :laugh:
Indian Regret.
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$$$$$$.
Yeah, but ESPN is losing viewers in droves because of it, hence less money. Just as the NFL lost a lot of viewers when Colin Kaepernick started his whole black lives matter protesting on the field (and a poll confirmed it).
I think the NFL and ESPN would rather promote their political beliefs than have the money. Seriously.
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That is certainly part of it Yeah Right..
East Asians, both male and especially female have high rates of ir in the USA..
Another reason of course is that most East Asians South of the border live in predominantly Caucasian areas.
Fash, I looked all over but I can't figure out what IR is, I just got Interest Rates and Injured Reserve :confused1: . I doubt you meant either one :laugh:
She means interracial relationships. She is married to a white man and her kids are biracial.
Thanks Herms. Got it. Sorry for being slow on the uptake.
Fash, what was your opinion on the guys at the forum? Did you think they were right or wrong or somewhere in between. I never saw your take.
I've been trying to scroll through my brain to remember all the asians I have seen in the media. Not much in the way of news stories unless its something to do with China, Japan, Korea etc.
I guess then there's movies and TV. I don't remember that much. And what I do remember I don't think it showed Asian guys as sexually undesirable. Although I could be wrong.
Generally the stereotype by word of mouth is that Asians are usually nice and good at school. One of my best friends in high school was a japanese American, he fit that to a tee.
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Fash, what was your opinion on the guys at the forum? Did you think they were right or wrong or somewhere in between. I never saw your take.
I've been trying to scroll through my brain to remember all the asians I have seen in the media. Not much in the way of news stories unless its something to do with China, Japan, Korea etc.
I guess then there's movies and TV. I don't remember that much. And what I do remember I don't think it showed Asian guys as sexually undesirable. Although I could be wrong.
Generally the stereotype by word of mouth is that Asians are usually nice and good at school. One of my best friends in high school was a japanese American, he fit that to a tee.
I posted on the same Asian American forums as Fash. My guess is that she is a lot closer to my opinion that the biggest blame Hollywood because I can't get laid crybabies were social misfits. However, she is far less likely than I am to say that even if she agrees with me.
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Fash, what was your opinion on the guys at the forum? Did you think they were right or wrong or somewhere in between. I never saw your take.
I've been trying to scroll through my brain to remember all the asians I have seen in the media. Not much in the way of news stories unless its something to do with China, Japan, Korea etc.
I guess then there's movies and TV. I don't remember that much. And what I do remember I don't think it showed Asian guys as sexually undesirable. Although I could be wrong.
Generally the stereotype by word of mouth is that Asians are usually nice and good at school. One of my best friends in high school was a japanese American, he fit that to a tee.
I posted on the same Asian American forums as Fash. My guess is that she is a lot closer to my opinion that the biggest blame Hollywood because I can't get laid crybabies were social misfits. However, she is far less likely than I am to say that even if she agrees with me.
She is less blunt. But I like both your styles.
As to the forums, its usually much easier to blame some outside force (the media) than to face an unpleasant truth.
I am sure there are some white guy misfits out there trying to find some scapegoat they can blame for their lack of success with women as well.
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That's exactly it. However, I don't want to give anyone the impression that all East Asian guys are like that. Not even fucking close. It's just that dateless dorks found a soapbox to blame everyone for being involuntarily single, but their own lack of game selves.
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Yes, and their names are Mel Gibson and Odinson.
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I've been trying to scroll through my brain to remember all the asians I have seen in the media. Not much in the way of news stories unless its something to do with China, Japan, Korea etc.
I guess then there's movies and TV. I don't remember that much. And what I do remember I don't think it showed Asian guys as sexually undesirable. Although I could be wrong.
Generally the stereotype by word of mouth is that Asians are usually nice and good at school. One of my best friends in high school was a japanese American, he fit that to a tee.
It's complicated Yeah Right..
There are definitely stereotypes of East Asian males in the USA and being popular with women is usually not one of them..
American media does little to change that stereotype either..
That being said, there are lots of young East Asian males who have girlfriends who are East Asian, Caucasian, Latin American and so on..
The young men on the old Asian American forums that scapegoated women like me for
I know it's not unique to our community, but blaming the media brings a different angle to it..
I should add, that I am friends with one of those young men that used to call me whitewashed and a sell out wh**e of the white man..
He has a white girlfriend now....the irony.
:laugh:
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I've been trying to scroll through my brain to remember all the asians I have seen in the media. Not much in the way of news stories unless its something to do with China, Japan, Korea etc.
I guess then there's movies and TV. I don't remember that much. And what I do remember I don't think it showed Asian guys as sexually undesirable. Although I could be wrong.
Generally the stereotype by word of mouth is that Asians are usually nice and good at school. One of my best friends in high school was a japanese American, he fit that to a tee.
It's complicated Yeah Right..
There are definitely stereotypes of East Asian males in the USA and being popular with women is usually not one of them..
American media does little to change that stereotype either..
That being said, there are lots of young East Asian males who have girlfriends who are East Asian, Caucasian, Latin American and so on..
The young men on the old Asian American forums that scapegoated women like me for
I know it's not unique to our community, but blaming the media brings a different angle to it..
I should add, that I am friends with one of those young men that used to call me whitewashed and a sell out wh**e of the white man..
He has a white girlfriend now....the irony.
:laugh:
Ah, the angst of young men.
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There has been some success with shows like Hawaii Five 0, but there is still the image of Asians as outsiders and not really Americans with shows like Fresh Off The Boat.
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There has been some success with shows like Hawaii Five 0, but there is still the image of Asians as outsiders and not really Americans with shows like Fresh Off The Boat.
FOB is Eddie Huang's story..
I suppose some Americans may form opinions of Asian Americans from watching that show.
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
I started to notice a lot of young Asian women dating predominantly white guys in their 30s. Of course, it could just be a localized group of people.
If you listen to stand up comedians...
rich black people are athletes and poor ones are in gangs
rich Hispanic people are drug dealers and poor ones sell tacos from a truck
rich Asians are dentists and poor ones work at a dry cleaner
rich white people work in the government and poor ones lost their wealth in a lawsuit or have a gambling problem
That's a post for Gordy to keep him occupied.
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People are sheep and will believe anything they
We are all people...same inside we all wear a different canvas....seeing is selling and media knows that....more people need to use their brains....im fuckin tired today and i want some pho...
I think social media is shaping us to be more congruent on opinions of things we wouldn't have otherwise bothered to learn about, and in turn we don't bother looking any further than opinionated rhetoric if it's still not something we care much about.
How was that pho?
I don't stereotype people based on stand up comedy routines or sitcoms. People that do, obviously have lazy brains.
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
I started to notice a lot of young Asian women dating predominantly white guys in their 30s. Of course, it could just be a localized group of people.
I have to add, media or no media, I don't really know how Asian men are viewed by white women. But I don;t think there;s much if any barrier between white men and Asian women. In fact there are some white men who actually prefer Asian women. Look at Gordy. Maybe he should take all those depressed guys on the AA forum to Pattaya with him. :laugh:
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
I started to notice a lot of young Asian women dating predominantly white guys in their 30s. Of course, it could just be a localized group of people.
I have to add, media or no media, I don't really know how Asian men are viewed by white women. But I don;t think there;s much if any barrier between white men and Asian women. In fact there are some white men who actually prefer Asian women. Look at Gordy. Maybe he should take all those depressed guys on the AA forum to Pattaya with him. :laugh:
Gordy gets laid in third world tourist ghetto. It is kind of pathetic, but he will take whatever he can get even though he has to pay for it and the gals are repulsed by him.
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I'm probably stating the obvious, but
Like personal experience,
talking to friends, family members, acquaintances
and, perhaps if one is to delve further, statistical evidence,
as well as, last but not least, things like message boards.
I am here and ready to learn :laugh:
Without a doubt Yeah Right..
On previous forums I posted at, the majority opinion of young East Asian was that the American media was solely responsible for their unpopularity with girls..
As I said, for most of them their opinions evolved as they grew older.
I started to notice a lot of young Asian women dating predominantly white guys in their 30s. Of course, it could just be a localized group of people.
I have to add, media or no media,
It depends on the individual lady..
My brother is married to a Caucasian lady(if you consider Lebanese white).
There are some Caucasian ladies who prefer East Asian men.