Here read it for yourself. It seems quite obvious that izlam destroys society simply by it's evil nature. how many millions of murders have been caused by izlamic teaching ?
Egypt warns giving women some rights could destroy society
By Michelle Nichols | Reuters – 19 hours ago
Egyptian national flag flutters at Port Said, northeast of Cairo February 1, 2013. ...
By Michelle Nichols
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Egypt's ruling Muslim Brotherhood warns that a U.N. declaration on women's rights could destroy society by allowing a woman to travel, work and use contraception without her husband's approval and letting her control family spending.
The Islamist party of President Mohamed Mursi outlined 10 reasons why Muslim countries should "reject and condemn" the declaration, which the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women is racing to negotiate a consensus deal on by Friday.
The Brotherhood, which was elected to power in June, posted the statement on its website, www.ikhwanweb.com, on Thursday.
Egypt has joined Iran, Russia and the Vatican - dubbed an "unholy alliance" by some diplomats - in threatening to derail the women's rights declaration by objecting to language on sexual, reproductive and gay rights.
The Muslim Brotherhood said the declaration would give "wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment, obliging competent authorities to deal husbands punishments similar to those prescribed for raping or sexually harassing a stranger."
U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice last week touted at the commission - a global policy-making body created in 1946 for the advancement of women - progress made by the United States in reducing the rate of violence against women by their partners.
"All 50 states in our union now have laws that treat date rape or spousal rape as just as much of a crime as rape by a stranger," Rice said. "We cannot live in truly free societies, if women and girls are not free to reach their full potential."
The contrasting views show the gap that needs to be breached in negotiations on the declaration, which this year is focused on urging an end to violence against women and girls. The commission failed to agree a declaration last year on a theme of empowering rural women due to similar disagreements.
WORLD IS WATCHING
Egypt has proposed an amendment, diplomats say, that would allow countries to avoid implementing the declaration if it clashed with national laws, religious or cultural values. But some diplomats say this would undermine the entire declaration.
The Muslim Brotherhood warned the declaration would give girls sexual freedom, legalize abortion, provide teenagers with contraceptives, give equality to women in marriage and require men and women to share duties such as child care and chores.
It said the declaration would allow "equal rights to homosexuals, and provide protection and respect for prostitutes" and "equal rights to adulterous wives and illegitimate sons resulting from adulterous relationships."
A coalition of Arab human rights groups - from Egypt, Lebanon, the Palestinian Territories, Jordan and Tunisia - called on countries at the Commission on the Status of Women on Thursday to stop using religion, culture, and tradition to justify abuse of women.
"The current positions taken by some Arab governments at this meeting is clearly not representative of civil society views, aspirations or best practices regarding the elimination and prevention of violence against women and girls within our countries," said the statement issued by the Coalition for Sexual and Bodily Rights in Muslim Societies.
Michelle Bachelet, a former president of Chile and head of U.N. Women, which supports the commission, said the commission was unable to reach a deal a decade ago when it last focused on the theme of women's rights and ending violence against women.
"Ten years later, we simply cannot allow disagreement or indecision to block progress for the world's women," Bachelet told the opening session of the commission last week. "The world is watching ... the violence needs to stop."
(Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
^ too true
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Egypt has proposed an amendment, diplomats say, that would allow countries to avoid implementing the declaration if it clashed with national laws, religious or cultural values.
But some diplomats say this would undermine the entire declaration.
No Shiite
Can't have "the help" you "own" providing any input, that's for sure!!!!
Note: We will NEVER EVER change islam in ANY way.
In fact, lately it is becoming far harsher as Fundies gain more power in every islamic country. I believe it will continue in that direction essentially forever
Human rights declarations by dreamers in a room far removed from the reality of islamic lands are in a way worse than doing nothing as they merely harder islamics to dig in deeper.
The thing most intolerable for the ideology of intolerance is to be told what to do by us infidel scoundrels
I´m all for women rights but women actually trying to take the place of men... That I will not accept.
If you want to act like men, you will die alone.
Nothing is more of a turn-off than women that act like men.
Where did you get the idea that was what it is about? It is about women actually being women.
"Vive la différence" .... but ownership fucks up the whole thing. Few real men want a female as a chattel. That's for wimpy islamic wannabe men.
Real men want a strong fem who is not cowed by anyone and voluntarily succumbs, (i.e. wants him to take her) eh?
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I´m all for women rights but women actually trying to take the place of men... That I will not accept.
If you want to act like men, you will die alone.
Nothing is more of a turn-off than women that act like men.
I can't stand effeminate men. Nothing is more of a turn-off than dandyboys.
I´m glad that there is women like you. :D
These emos make us take a step back in evolution.
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^ too true
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Egypt has proposed an amendment, diplomats say, that would allow countries to avoid implementing the declaration if it clashed with national laws, religious or cultural values.
But some diplomats say this would undermine the entire declaration.
No Shiite
CC, you missed your calling. I would pay a high cover charge to see you perform at Yuk Yuk's.

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Contemporary society has lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity and that's a shame.
This makes no sense. How has society "lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity"? Men choose for themselves however they wish to be. Men don't care what your personal ideals of masculinity are.
You know, for an alleged libertarian you sure love to decide how people should and shouldn't be.
That makes total sense. Your perspective limits you from having any way of knowing what a high bar is
SL isn't saying that women should not be strong. She is saying that effeminated men have a low standard / bar
Let me ponder that a while. I used "perspective" after some thought. My feminine / gentle throwback side took me over.
Thank you seoulbro
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Contemporary society has lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity and that's a shame.
This makes no sense. How has society "lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity"? Men choose for themselves however they wish to be. Men don't care what your personal ideals of masculinity are.
You know, for an alleged libertarian you sure love to decide how people should and shouldn't be.
Masculinity is subjective. I don't care what Shen Li considers masculine anymore than she likely cares what I consider feminine. We like what we like and nobody is going to change that.
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We like what we like and nobody is going to change that.
Absolutely
Its a varying-between-individuals combination of dna and conditioning, I suppose.
In the end, male or female, those respecting weakness gravitate toward the weak .. and ... those respecting strength gravitate toward the strong
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Contemporary society has lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity and that's a shame.
This makes no sense. How has society "lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity"? Men choose for themselves however they wish to be. Men don't care what your personal ideals of masculinity are.
You know, for an alleged libertarian you sure love to decide how people should and shouldn't be.
Men are tall and are muscles... little faggots like you want to forward this wimpy ass figure of a male.
I hate it!
Weak.
Well, not an "occutard metrosexual barrista" 4 shore!!
I was referring mainly to character and independence from "in vogue" thinking (or more like no-thinking) that matters. A 130 # "real man" personality could be desirable. A 200 # muscled emasculated hunk of material only could not be attractive
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Contemporary society has lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity and that's a shame.
This makes no sense. How has society "lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity"? Men choose for themselves however they wish to be. Men don't care what your personal ideals of masculinity are.
You know, for an alleged libertarian you sure love to decide how people should and shouldn't be.
Men are tall and are muscles... little faggots like you want to forward this wimpy ass figure of a male.
I hate it!
Weak.
I don't want to make baseless assumptions about Romero or call him childish names. He has always been a good guy on this forum and we have a mutual respect for each other even when we disagree.
With the different opinions on what is or isn't "masculine" we haven't discussed what is feminine. I don't think any serious guy would dispute that our own Fashionista meets the criteria for femininity.
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The media, government, changing attiudes and tastes. Too many men that look like this

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and not nearly enough real men like my studly bf Odie.
:lol: I'm pretty sure that men have been wearing sneakers, jeans and t-shirts for quite a while now!
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Men are tall and are muscles... little faggots like you want to forward this wimpy ass figure of a male.
So you prefer men to be tall and muscular. Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
Interesting.
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Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
Interesting.
Very much so!!!
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Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
I was actually looking at it literally. It was a bit of a setup
It's understandable that CC and Shen Li find tall, muscular guys sexy; I like beautiful women.
Ya, a hunk is nice to look at. Actually soeol, I may have given the wrong impression. I like em in all sizes so long as they are real men and big men inside ... "inside" meaning that they think for themselves and have not been diluted by pc think, and of course respect women who possess both femininity and inner strength
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Actually soeol, I may have given the wrong impression. I like em in all sizes so long as they are real men inside / how they think or tick
I read that in one of your posts, so I knew that. My point is even if you did like a certain male physique I would not hold that against you. You or I are free to like what we like.
Yes. "You or I are free to like what we like".
We do all have personal preferences as to size and build, even color or nationality. It's ALL good and all OK. Different desires / preferences / things that are attractive to each of us make the world go round.
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That guy needs a gym ASAP.
I don't see what the media, government and contemporary society have to do with his personal decision not to become some muscle bound body builder.
Most men aren't rippling with muscles. That guy isn't effeminate looking. He's just some guy. It's like saying women look masculine unless they weigh less than 100 pounds.
Well, "most" of the congregation, lol
What do you people think of 250lbs finnishman? ;)
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I don't see what the media, government and contemporary society have to do with his personal decision not to become some muscle bound body builder.
I have no way of knowing if that guy is masculine or not, but I suspect he isn't. What is not debatable is that he is not physically masculine.
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That guy isn't effeminate looking
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It's like saying women look masculine unless they weigh less than 100 pounds.
Let's see, that's about 1/4 the weight of your girlfriend. ;)
jesus homy....smarten the fuck up...this guy is typical of today's utes......what can one expect after have been feminized for 12 years in the Canadian school system..i feel sorry for the poor fucker...what chance does he have to assume the roll of a man in a family or his community.......at least he won't take up much space in his parents basement........fuck this country is doomed
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I don't see what the media, government and contemporary society have to do with his personal decision not to become some muscle bound body builder.
I have no way of knowing if that guy is masculine or not, but I suspect he isn't. What is not debatable is that he is not physically masculine.
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That guy isn't effeminate looking
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It's like saying women look masculine unless they weigh less than 100 pounds.
Let's see, that's about 1/4 the weight of your girlfriend. ;)
jesus homy....smarten the fuck up...this guy is typical of today's utes......what can one expect after have been feminized for 12 years in the Canadian school system..i feel sorry for the poor fucker...what chance does he have to assume the roll of a man in a family or his community.......at least he won't take up much space in his parents basement........fuck this country is doomed
I don't want to be mean, but I think that young man looks like he hasn't reached puberty yet..
I hope I didn't offend anyone.
:(
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What do you people think of 250lbs finnishman? ;)
Is that how much you weigh Mr Odinson?
You are almost 2.5 times as heavy as me.
:o
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The media, government, changing attiudes and tastes. Too many men that look like this

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and not nearly enough real men like my studly bf Odie.
:lol: I'm pretty sure that men have been wearing sneakers, jeans and t-shirts for quite a while now!
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Men are tall and are muscles... little faggots like you want to forward this wimpy ass figure of a male.
So you prefer men to be tall and muscular. Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
Interesting.
I love skinny jeans but I hate it when my date / boyfriend is wearing it !!! :lol:
Skinny jeans are nice, but they are not the sexiest jeans for women.
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This makes no sense. How has society "lowered the bar on what constitutes masculinity"?
The media, government, changing attiudes and tastes. Too many men that look like this

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and not nearly enough real men like my studly bf Odie.
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Men choose for themselves however they wish to be. Men don't care what your personal ideals of masculinity are.
I know effeminate men don't give a fuck what I think. I don't care what they think either. We avoid each other and I am perfectly happy with that arrangement.
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You know, for an alleged libertarian you sure love to decide how people should and shouldn't be.
I am Asian and pragmatic...I don't blindly follow rigid ideologies like Westerners do.
You sexy woman... :D
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:lol: I'm pretty sure that men have been wearing sneakers, jeans and t-shirts for quite a while now!
So you prefer men to be tall and muscular. Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
Interesting.
I love skinny jeans but I hate it when my date / boyfriend is wearing it !!! :lol:
I own several pairs of skinny jeans myself, but I would never buy a pair for my husband. He has a muscular body unlike that fruit in the picture, but they look awful on a man.
Shwoing off that ass :D
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I own several pairs of skinny jeans myself, but I would never buy a pair for my husband. He has a muscular body unlike that fruit in the picture, but they look awful on a man.
Shwoing off that ass :D
Of course.
Damn you. ;)
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Of course.
Damn you. ;)
I like to tease.
:D
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I like to tease.
:D
I love wearing tight jeans and high heels. Now I wear a tent.
:D How big are the heels?
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The media, government, changing attiudes and tastes. Too many men that look like this

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and not nearly enough real men like my studly bf Odie.
:lol: I'm pretty sure that men have been wearing sneakers, jeans and t-shirts for quite a while now!
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Men are tall and are muscles... little faggots like you want to forward this wimpy ass figure of a male.
So you prefer men to be tall and muscular. Whereas I couldn't care less how tall or muscular a guy is.
Interesting.
I love skinny jeans but I hate it when my date / boyfriend is wearing it !!! :lol:
:lol:
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I love skinny jeans but I hate it when my date / boyfriend is wearing it !!! :lol:
:lol:
Everyone except Romero agrees that guy looks effeminate and weak.
Let´s think this scenario. A big tall strange guy like me walks up to you in the middle of the night carrying unsavory plans for you, do you want a guy that actually put up a fight at your side or a skinny little french model?
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I love wearing tight jeans and high heels. Now I wear a tent.
:D How big are the heels?
Some are really high that's for sure. I like wearing them along with tight jeans and most guys enjoy watching my ass wiggle when I try to walk in them. ;)
Well, we males tend to little bit of like that. ;)
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What do you people think of 250lbs finnishman? ;)
Is that how much you weigh Mr Odinson?
You are almost 2.5 times as heavy as me.
:o
:lol:
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Everyone except Romero agrees that guy looks effeminate and weak.
Let´s think this scenario. A big tall strange guy like me walks up to you in the middle of the night carrying unsavory plans for you, do you want a guy that actually put up a fight at your side or a skinny little french model?
I would feel like I had to protect the skinny little French model. I can't help it, but ladyboys are a genetic fruitation.
What kind of a male has a female physique?
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I would feel like I had to protect the skinny little French model. I can't help it, but ladyboys are a genetic fruitation.
What kind of a male has a female physique?
Every single white male in Vancouver and Victoria...[size=150]YUCK!![/size]
Oh shit. That doesn´t help my case. ;)

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Retaliation. ;)
Peter Steele from Type O Negative.
He is a very masculine male?
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Peter Steele from Type O Negative.
He is a very masculine male?
He's all male and then some. I know there are lots of very, very masculine white guys like urself, but you won't find very many of them in Vancouver.
Big cities always have many feminine males.
I be more "wrestling with polarbears". ;)
Feminine males are completely useless since I cannot trust them to lay line in the finnish wide wilderness. -40C or a big winter storm... The lines have to be pulled and it requires strong traditional finnish males, not some weaklings.
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He's all male and then some. I know there are lots of very, very masculine white guys like urself, but you won't find very many of them in Vancouver.
Big cities always have many feminine males.
I be more "wrestling with polarbears". ;)
Feminine males are completely useless since I cannot trust them to lay line in the finnish wide wilderness. -40C or a big winter storm... The lines have to be pulled and it requires strong traditional finnish males, not some weaklings.
Absolutely correct on both counts. It is fucking scary how much you and I have in common.
I´m more attracted to females whom are 90% devil and 10% angel. ;) It´s just what I like.
The media is spreading so faggotty figure of a male that it makes my dick itch.
I´m a traditional finnish male and I will fucking stay this way until the old horn says hello.
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Big cities always have many feminine males.
I be more "wrestling with polarbears". ;)
Feminine males are completely useless since I cannot trust them to lay line in the finnish wide wilderness. -40C or a big winter storm... The lines have to be pulled and it requires strong traditional finnish males, not some weaklings.
Absolutely correct on both counts. It is fucking scary how much you and I have in common.
I´m more attracted to females whom are 90% devil and 10% angel. ;) It´s just what I like.
The media is spreading so faggotty figure of a male that it makes my dick itch.
I´m a traditional finnish male and I will fucking stay this way until the old horn says hello.
I don't understand what 90% devil and 10% angel means?
Is it values related or something different?
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Absolutely correct on both counts. It is fucking scary how much you and I have in common.
I´m more attracted to females whom are 90% devil and 10% angel. ;) It´s just what I like.
The media is spreading so faggotty figure of a male that it makes my dick itch.
I´m a traditional finnish male and I will fucking stay this way until the old horn says hello.
Don't change Odie no matter how much the media wants to turn you into a pacified eunuch. Real women and even crazy hypocritical ones like evs on Vancouver Forum want real men. Her white guilt(and mental problems) forbid her from expressing whats in her heart.
What does she say?
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Don't change Odie no matter how much the media wants to turn you into a pacified eunuch. Real women and even crazy hypocritical ones like evs on Vancouver Forum want real men. Her white guilt(and mental problems) forbid her from expressing whats in her heart.
What does she say?
She is a nutty, immature, narcissistic hypocrit. She is 45 going on 14. I pity her poor children; she is unfit to raise a hamster let alone a child.
And she says what?
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Absolutely correct on both counts. It is fucking scary how much you and I have in common.
I´m more attracted to females whom are 90% devil and 10% angel. ;) It´s just what I like.
The media is spreading so faggotty figure of a male that it makes my dick itch.
I´m a traditional finnish male and I will fucking stay this way until the old horn says hello.
Don't change Odie no matter how much the media wants to turn you into a pacified eunuch. Real women and even crazy hypocritical ones like evs on Vancouver Forum want real men. Her white guilt(and mental problems) forbid her from expressing whats in her heart.
I kinda like fishing at the river Teno... And the wilderness of lapland.
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Don't change Odie no matter how much the media wants to turn you into a pacified eunuch. Real women and even crazy hypocritical ones like evs on Vancouver Forum want real men. Her white guilt(and mental problems) forbid her from expressing whats in her heart.
I kinda like fishing at the river Teno... And the wilderness of lapland.
I have been doing a little checking of lapland and it seems a little bit like muskeg country North of Edmonton, but much better.
It´s fun in here. :)
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I have been doing a little checking of lapland and it seems a little bit like muskeg country North of Edmonton, but much better.
It´s fun in here. :)
Yeah, I hope to find out in the future. ;)
My cottage in "sirkka" is the right place to talk about our sizable debts. ;)
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Yeah, I hope to find out in the future. ;)
My cottage in "sirkka" is the right place to talk about our sizable debts. ;)
I intend to pay in full....RARRRR!!!
Sums every month for 18years?
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My cottage in "sirkka" is the right place to talk about our sizable debts. ;)
I intend to pay in full....RARRRR!!!
Sums every month for 18years?
I can't understand this post, but maybe it's an inside joke..
Back to the original post, how do people see the role of women in Muslim nations in the future?
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I intend to pay in full....RARRRR!!!
Sums every month for 18years?
I can't understand this post, but maybe it's an inside joke..
Back to the original post, how do people see the role of women in Muslim nations in the future?
Well, it doesn´t make any sense... I was tired. :lol: