Pot aint the cash crop it once was.
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Prices are tumbling as formerly illicit cultivators emerge from the shadows to invest millions of dollars in massive pot factories. In Colorado, the average price sought by wholesalers has fallen 48 percent to about $1,300 a pound since legal sales to all adults started in January 2014, according to Cannabase, operator of the state's largest market. Supply is surging as growers expand and install the latest agricultural technology.
"Anybody that is investing in this sector or starting a business in this sector needs to be doing so with the understanding that the price of cannabis is going to drop precipitously," said Troy Dayton, chief executive officer of Oakland, California-based Arcview Group, a marijuana investor consortium.
The focus on efficiency can cut production costs for some indoor growers to less than $300 a pound from more than $1,000, said John Chandler, vice president at Urban-Gro in Lafayette, Colorado. His company sells machinery originally developed for tomato greenhouses, such as automated feeding and watering systems from Israel's Netafim Ltd. and France's Dosatron International.
"If you want to compete on a price game, you have to use versions of our technology to do it," Chandler said. "Everybody is putting in irrigation systems, so that's good for us."
Urban-Gro also sells high-efficiency lights from Canada's PL Light Systems, which compete with Gavita, a Dutch company purchased this year by Scotts Miracle-Gro Co. Scotts has been on a buying frenzy over the past two years, gobbling up leading companies that provide specialty fertilizers, lighting and other supplies for hydroponics, the indoor method of growing crops favored by U.S. cannabis cultivators.
Retail prices also are dropping, though not as fast as in the wholesale market. Marijuana shops in Colorado collected an average $6.61 per gram in November, down 25 percent from the first quarter of 2014, according to BDS Analytics, a research firm.
The regulated market in North America could triple to more than $20 billion in five years, from $6.7 billion last year, after California, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada legalized adult recreational pot use in November, according to Arcview. Canada's plan to legalize marijuana this year also will contribute to the growth, Arcview said.
One caveat surrounding the booming cannabis industry is President-elect Donald Trump's choice for attorney general, Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, an ardent marijuana foe. But it remains to be seen if Trump or the Republican-controlled Congress will attempt to challenge the states that have legalized the drug.
While more than half of U.S. states permit medical use, transporting cannabis across state lines remains a federal crime, making each state a market unto itself. That means growers in cloudy coastal Oregon or frigid Maine must use technology to create the warm, sunny conditions favored by pot plants, and they need to do it as efficiently as possible.
Seeking Sunlight
Decades of prohibition necessitated growing marijuana in clandestine basements, warehouses and garages, making growers comfortable with indoor production, said Leif Olsen, managing partner at Denver-based Good to Great Consulting. But with legalization comes an increasing need to compete on cost, and that will eventually shift the industry to efficient greenhouse production, he said.
"Growing inside is definitely an antiquated concept," Olsen said. "It's coming out of hiding."
A hybrid greenhouse featuring insulated walls and a glass ceiling may consume less than half the energy of a warehouse, said Brandy Keen, vice president at Boulder-based Surna Inc. And a well designed climate-control system can cut energy needs while also providing pure water for plants with reclaimed condensate, she said.
That's enough space to pump out 1,700 pounds of buds monthly from dozens of custom-bred strains such as Dirty Girl and Cinderella's Dream, up from 100 pounds (45 kilograms). He also can process 2,200 pounds of purchased marijuana into cannabis oil and other concentrates for vaping.
Automation Key
While Lade increased production by 16 times, his employee count is up only four-fold, to 100, thanks to economies of scale and automation, he said. A machine mixes soil ingredients, pours the dirt into containers and then digs holes for young plants. A conveyor belt carries the container to an employee who does the delicate job of planting. Rather than relying on people to trim away leaves and stems from harvested pot, he's trying out machines that automate the job.
"If you want to provide cannabis to your people, you've got to adapt or die," said Lade, 40. "We are basically just going way bigger and then adding efficiencies like the machines and computer software."
Energy-efficient Gavita lighting is installed in his old and new facilities. Computerized plumbing delivers custom-mixed nutrients to the plants. A climate-control system supplied by Surna not only maintains ideal pot-growing temperatures and humidity levels, but also helps eliminate mold problems, Lade said.
A hospital-clean environment with employees wearing uniforms washed on premises cuts down on plant pests.
"The cleaner you can be, the less chemicals you have to use," Lade said.
Yet Lade knows he can do more to cut costs, specifically by building a hybrid greenhouse to capture light from the sun. That's not a good option in perpetually overcast Washington, so he's exploring the possibility of setting up shop in sunny Nevada or California, states where recreational use was approved in November.
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Thee should be no chemical use.
These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
Nobody is forcing you to buy commercial pot.
What does my purchasing habits have anything to do with mass production problems which will include the use of fertilizers and pesticides?
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I use fertilizers and pesticides on my farm and I do not even grow weed[size=50] anymore.[/size]
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I use fertilizers and pesticides on my farm and I do not even grow weed[size=50] anymore.[/size]
Good on ya! That's how it should be if you can manage it.
Also when you're talking about a product that you can't wash and it is incinerated in many cases, pesticides should be a huge no no.
I hope all the profit is mass produced right out of marijuana production..
It's a crop we can do without.
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
Nothing yet has happened to me that requires me to consider medical marijuana. I'm telling you, I've never ever tried that stuff yet...not yet...hehe. I hope I will never have a need but we all grow old eventually and some things will not work any more.
It kind of bugs me when people shit on weed. I have been on SOOOOO many drugs these past few years and it is not the worst of them by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know why I would want to be taking addictive narcotics that aren't as effective over eating a brownie or vaping a bowl. Weed has worked really well and it's not chemically addictive and doesn't have a host of NASTY side effects.
I make no apologies for using marijuana and I those who oppose my use of it can stuff it.
I used to post a lot that I want to try it. Haha! To be quite honest, I'm curious what it's like.
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar worker takes in a one hitter between breaks.
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar takes in a one hitter between breaks.
And some white collars....just sayin LOL
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar takes in a one hitter between breaks.
And some white collars....just sayin LOL
They need their "medicine" too eh.
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar worker takes in a one hitter between breaks.
So if people use it for kicks we should lower the growing standards?
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar worker takes in a one hitter between breaks.
So if people use it for kicks we should lower the growing standards?
I don't want it produced period.
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No dividend from Cannabase. :laugh3:
I figured that the mass legalization would lower prices eventually.
I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it, fewer people would smoke tobacco and drink alcohol. I think marijuana is ultimately a safer option than these and other drugs.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
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It's a crop we can do without.
It should be treated with the same standards and rules as any other medicine IMHO.
The same medicine that every young blue collar worker takes in a one hitter between breaks.
So if people use it for kicks we should lower the growing standards?
I don't want it produced period.
Why is that?
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
I don't care Seoul, no mood altering substances.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
I don't care Seoul, no mood altering substances.
Would you deny those who use marijuana for legitimate health reasons the drug as well?
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
They know it will just create a market for "organic" and the prices should go back up.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
Alcohol and tobacco do pay a lot of bills provincially and federally, no question about it.
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
They know it will just create a market for "organic" and the prices should go back up.
It should be organic.
Money in the pocket of all Calgarians
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
Alcohol and tobacco do pay a lot of bills provincially and federally, no question about it.
I don't care iron horse jockey, they are both destroy people.
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
They know it will just create a market for "organic" and the prices should go back up.
It should be organic.
Today's organic or 75 years ago organic. They are different...LOL
Food items that are classified as "organic", to me, should be classified as "Chemical Free". Pot could be the same way. Marketing baby, Marketing.....LOL
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
They know it will just create a market for "organic" and the prices should go back up.
It should be organic.
Today's organic or 75 years ago organic. They are different...LOL
Food items that are classified as "organic", to me, should be classified as "Chemical Free". Pot could be the same way. Marketing baby, Marketing.....LOL
I don't care how it's marketed, it shouldn't have chemicals on it - period.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
Alcohol and tobacco do pay a lot of bills provincially and federally, no question about it.
I don't care iron horse jockey, they are both destroy people.
Some people are helped by marijuana. You can't say the same of tobacco use or alcohol as we use it.
Meet Charlotte:
Montel Williams and I have the same symptoms. Here's his opinion on the drug:
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These mass growers are going to fuck it up.
They know it will just create a market for "organic" and the prices should go back up.
It should be organic.
Today's organic or 75 years ago organic. They are different...LOL
Food items that are classified as "organic", to me, should be classified as "Chemical Free". Pot could be the same way. Marketing baby, Marketing.....LOL
My husband and I used to fall for that deliberately misleading label on food and pay more.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
Alcohol and tobacco do pay a lot of bills provincially and federally, no question about it.
I don't care iron horse jockey, they are both destroy people.
Some people are helped by marijuana. You can't say the same of tobacco use or alcohol as we use it.
Meet Charlotte:
I know people that smoke it strictly to cope with pain. But, I'm on a lease supervising a workover and I can see a the derrickhand and floorhand smoking up right now.
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I used to toke years ago. I think I'm currently on the fence about whether it should be widely available.
I'm not anyone's Father, but I wouldn't suggest anyone under 18 use it, although I did. It can change the way you think permanently, and this can be a double edged sword for people who are still developing.
On the other hand, if there were more truthful education spread through mass media about it,
I hope they both disappear too.
The government of Ontario had tobacco revenue alone in 2012-2013 of $1.15 billion. I cannot find figures for alcohol sin taxes. I would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed too. I am a smoker and a drinker, but sin taxes make much more sense than taxing income. The problem with sin taxes is that if governments get too greedy it creates a contraband market as we have in Ontario with cigarettes.
Alcohol and tobacco do pay a lot of bills provincially and federally, no question about it.
I don't care iron horse jockey, they are both destroy people.
Some people are helped by marijuana. You can't say the same of tobacco use or alcohol as we use it.
Meet Charlotte:
I know people that smoke it strictly to cope with pain. But, I'm on a lease supervising a workover and I can see a the derrickhand and floorhand smoking up right now.
I was NEVER much of a pot smoker and I grew up in awesome, cheap weed country. I use it to manage pain - the same pain Montel Williams has. To think someone would deny me access to a drug that works pisses me off. People shouldn't have to suffer due to other people's ignorance.
I really dislike the idea of legalizing mood altering substances..
But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
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But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
ac_dunno
Do you know how many mood altering substances there are? Caffeine is a mood altering substance in additional MANY MANY legal drugs. To say one is okay and another one isn't for no real reason doesn't make sense.
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I want you to know that I respect your views, Fash. It seems like you've known someone whose life spun out of control due to substance abuse, and I can relate to that.
While it does have medicinal properties, I think more people use it to self medicate in a way that leads them beyond healing and hovers on emotional and physical dependence. However, it's not for me to say how other people choose to live, though, as long as they don't negatively affect others in proximity to themselves.
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But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
ac_dunno
Do you know how many mood altering substances there are? Caffeine is a mood altering substance in additional MANY MANY legal drugs. To say one is okay and another one isn't for no real reason doesn't make sense.
I think people in your situation would benefit from using it medicinally, but as I type this I'm kind of wondering where do we draw the line on who can use it and who can't? Freedom is one thing, but there are some benevolent reasons we have laws and restrictions in effect.
I think it does have side effects that can outweigh the benefits. As a person who might or might not use it regularly, how much would you say is too much to use over any allotted period of time?
I can say for a few drugs I take and have taken that the side effects outweigh the benefit but I wouldn't include marijuana on that list.
I think with any drug, you start with the lowest amount possible and work up from there. I honestly don't know what my upper limit would be as I've never reached it.
After hours of rolling around in bed and having a hot bath I've decided to use some marijuana to get rid of the severe pain I have in my legs. Maybe then I can sleep.
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But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
ac_dunno
Do you know how many mood altering substances there are? Caffeine is a mood altering substance in additional MANY MANY legal drugs. To say one is okay and another one isn't for no real reason doesn't make sense.
I think people in your situation would benefit from using it medicinally, but as I type this I'm kind of wondering
Does a person really need to be drunk or high all the time?
That's pathetic.
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But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
ac_dunno
Do you know how many mood altering substances there are? Caffeine is a mood altering substance in additional MANY MANY legal drugs. To say one is okay and another one isn't for no real reason doesn't make sense.
I think people in your situation would benefit from using it medicinally, but as I type this I'm kind of wondering
Does a person really need to be drunk or high all the time?
That's pathetic.
If a person is in a lot of pain, being "high all the time" might be a better option.
What I find "pathetic" is denying people drugs that help them.
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But, I too know that marijuana and opiates have medicinal purposes..
I don't know.
ac_dunno
Do you know how many mood altering substances there are? Caffeine is a mood altering substance in additional MANY MANY legal drugs. To say one is okay and another one isn't for no real reason doesn't make sense.
I think people in your situation would benefit from using it medicinally, but as I type this I'm kind of wondering
Does a person really need to be drunk or high all the time?
That's pathetic.
If a person is in a lot of pain, being "high all the time" might be a better option.
What I find "pathetic" is denying people drugs that help them.
I do not think she will ever see mary jane as having purpose besides recreational high.
That's just ignorant.
I had the choice between morphine, oxycodone and marijuana to treat my pain. Two are highly addictive opiates that leave me unable to function and the other is marijuana. It's a no brainer for me. The only thing I can't do while using marijuana is operate a motor vehicle, which I can't do on the other two either.
I assume you've toked a few spliffs in your day Hermie?
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I had the choice between morphine, oxycodone and marijuana to treat my pain. Two are highly addictive opiates that leave me unable to function and the other is marijuana. It's a no brainer for me. The only thing I can't do while using marijuana is operate a motor vehicle, which I can't do on the other two either.
I assume you've toked a few spliffs in your day Hermie?
Oh shit, I was the biggest dealer in school by the time I was in grade 10. I have smoked so much weed in my life my fingerprints with the cops look like a pot leaf. Even now, I take a puff or two. Usually, it is when my kid drops by the farm. He knows to bring a little extra for the old man.
We smoke out in the Quonset. The old lady's opinion on weed is similar to Fashionista's. They may be ignorant, but I still take a toke when I can get it. At the end of the day, it is my decision to smoke or abstain.
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That's just puerile.
Why do you need to label everyone who has a different opinion than you? Particularly since it has zero impact on ur life or anyone else's for that matter. She thinks smoking up and drinking are bad, so fucking what? No fucks given.
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That's just puerile.
Why do you need to label everyone who has a different opinion than you? Particularly since it has zero impact on ur life or anyone else's for that matter. She thinks smoking up and drinking are bad, so fucking what? No fucks given.
I didn't label anyone. I said the opinion is ignorant. Why? Because it is.
LTR.
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I think with any drug, you start with the lowest amount possible and work up from there. I honestly don't know what my upper limit would be as I've never reached it.
After hours of rolling around in bed and having a hot bath I've decided to use some marijuana to get rid of the severe pain I have in my legs. Maybe then I can sleep.
I actually meant to say "benefits that outweigh the side effects". Sorry about that.
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That's just puerile.
Why do you need to label everyone who has a different opinion than you? Particularly since it has zero impact on ur life or anyone else's for that matter. She thinks smoking up and drinking are bad, so fucking what? No fucks given.
It's highly unlikely anyone Is going to change their habits because of my opinion..
I choose to live my life free of anything that will make me high and I don't regret it at all.
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That's just puerile.
Why do you need to label everyone who has a different opinion than you? Particularly since it has zero impact on ur life or anyone else's for that matter. She thinks smoking up and drinking are bad, so fucking what? No fucks given.
It's highly unlikely anyone Is going to change their habits because of my opinion..
I choose to live my life free of anything that will make me high and I don't regret it at all.
Nothing ignorant about that.
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That's just puerile.
Why do you need to label everyone who has a different opinion than you? Particularly since it has zero impact on ur life or anyone else's for that matter. She thinks smoking up and drinking are bad, so fucking what? No fucks given.
It's highly unlikely anyone Is going to change their habits because of my opinion..
I choose to live my life free of anything that will make me high and I don't regret it at all.
That's excellent Fash! I hope you are never in a position where you need to use drugs. What I object to is calling it "pathetic" because that isn't a comment of personal conviction but one of judgement, which is what I find ignorant.
I notice you did not respond to my post RW?
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Sorry Herm...
Did you ever grow your own?
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Sorry Herm...
Did you ever grow your own?
Oh hell ya. We did not have all the resources back when I was in high school to grow good high yield weed like the kids do today. As I mentioned earlier, I don't buy it or grow anymore, but I smoke my son's weed when he comes out to the farm. It is so much better than the weed I had when I was his age.
Oh yeah the stuff these days is STRONG.
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Me like.