Title: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 06:33:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 06:33:58 PM
More than 40 per cent of the Canadian workforce is at high risk of being replaced by technology and computers in the next two decades, according to a new report out Wednesday.Quote
The Brookfield Institute for Innovation + Entrepreneurship at Toronto's Ryerson University said in its report that automation previously has been restricted to routine, manual tasks. However, breakthroughs in artificial intelligence and advanced robotics now means that automation is moving into "cognitive, non-routine tasks and occupations, such as driving and conducting job interviews."
The report said the top five occupations — in terms of number of people employed in them — facing a high risk of automation are:
1.Retail salesperson.
2.Administrative assistant.
3.Food counter attendant.
4.Cashier.
5.Transport truck driver.
The institute put a 70 per cent or higher probability that "high risk" jobs will be affected by automation over the next 10 to 20 years, and it said workers in the most susceptible jobs typically earn less and have lower education levels than the rest of the Canadian labour force.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 06:49:17 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 06:49:17 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:01:49 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:01:49 PM
In Australia, immigrants are overrepresented in crime, gaol and welfare.
I guess that's being entrepreneurial.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:07:02 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:07:02 PM
Foreigners are under-represented in the Australian prison population, according to 2010 figures.
Ironic to hear a member of a country founded by British convicts bitching about criminal immigrants.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
It was colonised by the UK.
Prison labour was then used to build infrastructure. Most of Australia was colonised by free settlers.
"There are signi cant di erences in income between Muslim Australians and the Australian population as a whole. Muslims tend to earn signi cantly less, both at the household and individual levels. A quarter of all Muslim children in Australia are living in poverty, compared with 14% of all Australian children.
Muslims have higher rates of unemployment than the general population, and are less likely to be in the labour market."
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
"Muslims comprise 3.2% of the NSW population but 9.3% of the state prison population, according to the NSW Corrective Services 2013 Census (Khoury 2014)."
"According to Corrections Victoria, as of 27 April 2015 there were 507 Muslim prisoners in Victoria. The total prison population is around 6300 prisoners. This shows that, while 2.9% of Victorians were Muslim, 8% of prisoners in Victoria were Muslims."
Learn to research correctly.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:16:49 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:16:49 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:22:58 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:22:58 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
And everyone except the aboriginals are immigrants.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
Immigrants are entrepreneurial. In the first few years after entry in Canada, they understandably have relatively low rates of business ownership and job creation compared with the Canadian-born population. But these outcomes change quickly with years spent in Canada, so that after four to seven years, the propensity to own a private incorporated business or to be unincorporated self-employed surpasses that of the Canadian-born population.Quote from: "RW"http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2016375-eng.htm
So, when they come here they compete with Canadians for fewer and fewer jobs thereby putting downward pressure on wages. But, hey they might open a micro business someday that probably needs no workers, but if they do it will only be someone from their own tribe.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 09:01:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 29, 2017, 09:01:16 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 29, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 09:47:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 09:47:34 PM
"We have looked for, and have not found, any convincing argument for continued national population growth. The health of our economy does not depend on it. The vitality of business does not depend on it. The welfare of the average person does not depend on it."
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 10:46:59 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 10:46:59 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:13:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:13:18 PM
"Immigration Minister Barbara McDougall has won a major cabinet battle by convincing her colleagues that increased immigration will be good for Canada economically and provide the Conservatives with a new source of voters, sources say.
"Despite concerns about the social and financial impact of increased immigration and doubts about the country's ability to assimilate new arrivals at the current rate, Ms McDougall will announce tomorrow that Canada will begin accepting up to 250,000 immigrants a year."
Globe and Mail, October 24, 1990
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:14:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:14:20 PM
And mass immigration is supported by national political parties that have not governed federally, the NDP and the Green Party.
So it must be a great and well thought out policy, right?
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:16:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:16:40 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:46:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 29, 2017, 11:46:25 PM
Probably the number of immigrants we take in each year is a bit excessive too.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
Post by: RW on March 29, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
And we know the rest of the story. Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's policy of mass immigration regardless of economic conditions was pursued by all his successors.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
And mass immigration is supported by national political parties that have not governed federally, the NDP and the Green Party.
So it must be a great and well thought out policy, right?
We need to start asking our politicians to explain why we want more immigrants and to inflate our populations further.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 12:21:52 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 12:21:52 AM
For those who are unaware of the elite's plans, I suggest you read up on the Kalergi Plan.
In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), he wrote:
''The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals.''
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:33:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:33:00 AM
It's so natural to me I don't give it a second thought..
Do politicians exploit it for selfish purposes?
Probably, but I don't expect much from our elected representatives anyway.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:48:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:48:39 AM
I live in a successful multicultural city, I work in a multicultural setting, my church is multicultural and my marriage and children are multicultural..Quote from: "Fashionista"
It's so natural to me I don't give it a second thought..
Do politicians exploit it for selfish purposes?
Probably, but I don't expect much from our elected representatives anyway.
That is all fine and good, but do you think it's a good idea to be flooding the country with more labour while jobs are disappearing? That doesn't even take into account all the pressure on infrastructure and housing riving up our population creates.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
I live in a successful multicultural city, I work in a multicultural setting, my church is multicultural and my marriage and children are multicultural..Quote from: "Fashionista"
It's so natural to me I don't give it a second thought..
Do politicians exploit it for selfish purposes?
Probably, but I don't expect much from our elected representatives anyway.
Some multiculturalism is fine Fash, its when immigrants start displacing the natives and taking over it becomes a problem (*COUGH Islam COUGH*).
Another thing to note is that not all groups of people can live side by side one another peacefully.
Of course the elites promoting globalism know this, and they either don't care or WANT conflict to happen. I suspect the latter, because war is very, very profitable for them.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:59:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 12:59:38 AM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:16:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:16:30 AM
I live in a successful multicultural city, I work in a multicultural setting, my church is multicultural and my marriage and children are multicultural..Quote from: "Fashionista"
It's so natural to me I don't give it a second thought..
Do politicians exploit it for selfish purposes?
Probably, but I don't expect much from our elected representatives anyway.
Some multiculturalism is fine Fash, its when immigrants start displacing the natives and taking over it becomes a problem (*COUGH Islam COUGH*).
Another thing to note is that not all groups of people can live side by side one another peacefully.
Of course the elites promoting globalism know this, and they either don't care or WANT conflict to happen. I suspect the latter, because war is very, very profitable for them.
Most of this is true. Politicians use immigration for selfish political gain and don't care that while jobs are disappearing they're putting more downward pressure on wages and benefits.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:18:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:18:10 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I prefer to call you a shill.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 01:21:08 AM
Post by: Aryan on March 30, 2017, 01:21:08 AM
I live in a successful multicultural city, I work in a multicultural setting, my church is multicultural and my marriage and children are multicultural..Quote from: "Fashionista"
It's so natural to me I don't give it a second thought..
Do politicians exploit it for selfish purposes?
Probably, but I don't expect much from our elected representatives anyway.
Some multiculturalism is fine Fash, its when immigrants start displacing the natives and taking over it becomes a problem (*COUGH Islam COUGH*).
Another thing to note is that not all groups of people can live side by side one another peacefully.
Of course the elites promoting globalism know this, and they either don't care or WANT conflict to happen. I suspect the latter, because war is very, very profitable for them.
Most of this is true. Politicians use immigration for selfish political gain and don't care that while jobs are disappearing they're putting more downward pressure on wages and benefits.
Have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:26:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:26:55 AM
Have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
Not that particular plan itself. But, every political party in Canada uses immigration and multiculturalism for selfish political reasons even when it's an expensive problem for the country. It's not just Canada either, immigration and refugee resettlement has become a religion throughout the West.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 01:30:19 AM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 01:30:19 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:32:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:32:26 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 01:44:56 AM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 01:44:56 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
He graduated from U of T in mechanical engineering, but only found a job in the hard drive filter manufacturer for $9 an hour, until he had to go back to help out my dad's business since after he got married. But most of his friends, my best friend and other people I know end up moving to the states and got hired starting at $80,000 USD annually.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:53:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 01:53:50 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
He graduated from U of T in mechanical engineering, but only found a job in the hard drive filter manufacturer for $9 an hour, until he had to go back to help out my dad's business since after he got married. But most of his friends, my best friend and other people I know end up moving to the states and got hired starting at $80,000 USD annually.
Your brother is a mechanical engineer and worked in a factory for minimum wage.
I just took a look at one employment website and found lots of job listings for mechanical engineers.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 02:31:34 AM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 02:31:34 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
He graduated from U of T in mechanical engineering, but only found a job in the hard drive filter manufacturer for $9 an hour, until he had to go back to help out my dad's business since after he got married. But most of his friends, my best friend and other people I know end up moving to the states and got hired starting at $80,000 USD annually.
Your brother is a mechanical engineer and worked in a factory for minimum wage.
ac_wot
I just took a look at one employment website and found lots of job listings for mechanical engineers.
The problem with these jobs is there's too many people competing over them, at least that was my brothers case 20 years ago. The place my eldest brother works at, the pay was wasn't really that good while skills and education background where still required in the lab environment they work at, but one thing he really like was all his colleges were really nice and friendly that made him want to stay. Even I have to agree it's weird and strange hearing from my brother saying he would rather work in Toronto instead of being employed by my dad and get to work as a marketing manager.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 09:26:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 09:26:02 AM
The problem with these jobs is there's too many people competing over them, at least that was my brothers case 20 years ago. The place my eldest brother works at, the pay was wasn't really that good while skills and education background where still required in the lab environment they work at, but one thing he really like was all his colleges were really nice and friendly that made him want to stay. Even I have to agree it's weird and strange hearing from my brother saying he would rather work in Toronto instead of being employed by my dad and get to work as a marketing manager.
Your brother is not employed in the family business Zetsu?
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 09:48:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 09:48:32 AM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
He graduated from U of T in mechanical engineering, but only found a job in the hard drive filter manufacturer for $9 an hour, until he had to go back to help out my dad's business since after he got married. But most of his friends, my best friend and other people I know end up moving to the states and got hired starting at $80,000 USD annually.
I studied mechanical engineering at U of M for a year. Everyone that completed the program is enjoying all the perks of fantastic careers.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 06:27:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 06:27:41 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 07:07:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 07:07:16 PM
As a reluctant spring eventually kicks out the last vestiges of winter, the number of asylum seekers entering Canada illegally from the United States will ramp up considerably.
Only a fool—or the Trudeau Liberals who thus far appear to lack any plan—would think otherwise.
Gone will be the emotive images of queue-jumping refugee claimants with legal status in the U.S.—Turks, Somalis, Syrians, Yemenis—trudging through the snow as they hand their bundled-up child into the waiting arms of the RCMP.
Soon it will be a summer walk in the park.
Canadians, however, are growing tired of being used by a loophole in the Canada-U.S. Safe Third Country Agreement where refugee claimants would be turned back if they crossed at legal border checkpoints, but somehow accepted if they cross into Canada illegally through a back door.
They are tired of being the patsies.
A new Ipsos poll Wednesday commissioned by Global News shows over
As Ipsos CEO Darrell Bricker put it, "For Canadians it's not either a discussion about compassion or a discussion about security, it's a discussion about rules.
"Regardless of your views on immigration in general, there's an overall perspective among Canadians that rules must make sense, and they must be followed."
That view was unequivocal, with only eight percent of Canadians content with the status quo.
According to the RCMP, upwards of 1,200 asylum seekers crossed the Canadian border illegally in January and February, a number that will only spike as summer beckons.
In fact, as Toronto immigration lawyer Guidy Mamann recently told Macleans, Canadians can expect a more clandestine infiltration as the weather betters.
"We are going to see a steep increase in numbers," he said. "What you are seeing now is only those people who want to be seen.
"There are other people who are going further down the fence who do not want to be detected, and they're coming across with the intention of avoiding the system."
Yet, one of the last times Canadians heard from Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, he was playing the hyperbole game rather than addressing legitimate concerns regarding these illegal entries into our country, insinuating that only the opposition Conservatives were making a big deal of the situation.
"I guess what the Conservatives are saying is maybe we should line up the RCMP at the border, link arms and shoo people away," Goodale recently told CTV's Question Period.
"Or maybe use fire hoses, or whatever, to keep people from crossing at the border."
It was a ludicrous statement, of course, but not unexpected from a party increasingly out of touch with the average Canadian, as the results of this Ipsos poll clearly underlines.
While fire hoses never came up in the poll, Canadians are nonetheless seeking the regulatory equivalent from the Liberals who thus far see asylum seekers as nothing more than a minor nuisance.
"(When) we're not talking about a couple of people coming across, but busloads coming across, that's when it becomes problematic," said Ipsos' CEO Darren Bricker.
"Because that's when it will look like the rules are unclear, to the extent that they exist and are being violated, and that the government is out of control."
Right now, it is not front-page news, but it will be.
In fact, Bricker sees the influx on illegal asylum seekers evolving into "the number one issue facing the country."
Maybe then Ralph Goodale will break out the fire hoses.
If only to wash away his party's smug indifference.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 10:32:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 10:32:29 PM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:01:18 PM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:01:18 PM
Call me a dreamer, but I still believe bringing talented people into Canada is a net benefit for Canadians.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I dun think the problem is the lack of skilled labour here,ac_umm but Canada's job market has always been rather small at least since the day my brother graduated, while most of my friend that were all fresh of grads weren't able to find a job and had to move to the US, right now all we're left is local low pay jobs that doesn't require much education or skills.ac_unsure
Your brother had to move to the USA to get a job Zetsu?
What was his major?
He graduated from U of T in mechanical engineering, but only found a job in the hard drive filter manufacturer for $9 an hour, until he had to go back to help out my dad's business since after he got married. But most of his friends, my best friend and other people I know end up moving to the states and got hired starting at $80,000 USD annually.
I studied mechanical engineering at U of M for a year. Everyone that completed the program is enjoying all the perks of fantastic careers.
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:05:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:05:49 PM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:10:37 PM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:10:37 PM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Yea and that too, though I found it really weird how he likes to keep his minimum wage job at the hard drive manufacturer he works at.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Yea and that too, though I found it really weird how he likes to keep his minimum wage job at the hard drive manufacturer he works at.ac_umm
He is a marketing manager for your dad now though right?
Hey, how many brothers have you got?
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Yea and that too, though I found it really weird how he likes to keep his minimum wage job at the hard drive manufacturer he works at.ac_umm
He is a marketing manager for your dad now though right?
Hey, how many brothers have you got?
Yep, lol only 2 brothers, my other brother used to be a security guard, Canadian military, high school teacher in Hong Kong, news reporter/journalist, maximum security correctional service, but now he works at my dad's place too.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
Post by: Zetsu on March 30, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
The problem with these jobs is there's too many people competing over them, at least that was my brothers case 20 years ago. The place my eldest brother works at, the pay was wasn't really that good while skills and education background where still required in the lab environment they work at, but one thing he really like was all his colleges were really nice and friendly that made him want to stay. Even I have to agree it's weird and strange hearing from my brother saying he would rather work in Toronto instead of being employed by my dad and get to work as a marketing manager.
Your brother is not employed in the family business Zetsu?
My oldest brother went back first, but now my 2nd brother went back too to help out my dad since he's getting a bit too old for the job.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:43:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2017, 11:43:13 PM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Yea and that too, though I found it really weird how he likes to keep his minimum wage job at the hard drive manufacturer he works at.ac_umm
He is a marketing manager for your dad now though right?
Hey, how many brothers have you got?
Yep, lol only 2 brothers, my other brother used to be a security guard, Canadian military, high school teacher in Hong Kong, news reporter/journalist, maximum security correctional service, but now he works at my dad's place too.
That is quite the varied cv he has.
I have two sisters,one older, one younger.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 31, 2017, 04:11:54 AM
Post by: Zetsu on March 31, 2017, 04:11:54 AM
I guess it's mostly different from cities to cities, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the GTA is already saturated with U grads all over the place competing for jobs, along with our city population keeps rising while it's rare for immigrants to invest in a new business here.ac_umm
Or maybe your brother simply did not see a job opening at the time that was a fit for him.
Yea and that too, though I found it really weird how he likes to keep his minimum wage job at the hard drive manufacturer he works at.ac_umm
He is a marketing manager for your dad now though right?
Hey, how many brothers have you got?
Yep, lol only 2 brothers, my other brother used to be a security guard, Canadian military, high school teacher in Hong Kong, news reporter/journalist, maximum security correctional service, but now he works at my dad's place too.
That is quite the varied cv he has.
I have two sisters,one older, one younger.
Yea, though it's more of his bad habits I have to admit lol, trying out new jobs and getting difference experiences, not really loyal to his employer but at least he's insanely loyal to his gf. If my mom was your mom she would be a happy person, considering she always wanted a daughter to talk to but ended up with me and my 2 brothers instead, lol.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 31, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on March 31, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
Post by: Zetsu on March 31, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
Zetsu, what is your opinion of the op? There will be fewer and fewer jobs, but we keep pushing the population higher through mass immigration. Yay or nay for you.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
It might sound kinda hypocritical for me to say this, but I've been tired of how the liberals are trying to destroy every bit and part of Canada's culture and tradition, only lowering standards and cheapenize our citizenship to 3rd world immigrants and refugees. The economy and wealth is one thing I'm worried about too, but it just doesn't come close to the peace that is lost in our communities. In the end I'm pretty much all nay when it comes to anything related to Trudeau's policy.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 12:35:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 12:35:31 AM
It might sound kinda hypocritical for me to say this, but I've been tired of how the liberals are trying to destroy every bit and part of Canada's culture and tradition, only lowering standards and cheapenize our citizenship to 3rd world immigrants and refugees. The economy and wealth is one thing I'm worried about too, but it just doesn't come close to the peace that is lost in our communities. In the end I'm pretty much all nay when it comes to anything related to Trudeau's policy.
Don't get me wrong, I know what you are saying Zetsu and I agree. We see from the failed European experience that it is not possible to assimilate millions of Muslims. Islam is about us submitting not Islam assimilating.
Large scale immigration/mass population growth is a suicidal policy that all political parties in Canada support.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
Large scale immigration/mass population growth is a suicidal policy that all political parties in Canada support.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I used to buy the bullshit from big business, and big government that rapidly boosting the population was good for Canadians.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2017, 02:24:45 PM
Large scale immigration/mass population growth is a suicidal policy that all political parties in Canada support.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I used to buy the bullshit from big business, and big government that rapidly boosting the population was good for Canadians.
Technology is eliminating jobs, and we are bringing in more labour to compete for fewer jobs. The result is a dream come true for business as they are able to lower wages. Government, both left and right are the enablers of this dismantling of the middle class.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Zetsu on April 03, 2017, 01:35:52 AM
Post by: Zetsu on April 03, 2017, 01:35:52 AM
Large scale immigration/mass population growth is a suicidal policy that all political parties in Canada support.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
I used to buy the bullshit from big business, and big government that rapidly boosting the population was good for Canadians.
Technology is eliminating jobs, and we are bringing in more labour to compete for fewer jobs. The result is a dream come true for business as they are able to lower wages. Government, both left and right are the enablers of this dismantling of the middle class.
Though I might be a little bit bias, but IMO automation isn't really bad as it seems, in the end both consumer and business can greatly benefit from reduced cost. Even in China with wages only 1/3 of Canada's we've already shifted to a lot of heavy machinery, automation and starting to go into robotic arms for the next phase. And lets be honest as much as customers want cheap products business need cheap wages too to earn a net profit or stay in competition; Plus being in the 21st century we've adopted a lot of military tech, using smartphones and will soon have contact lens that can give us vision like a terminator, as long as we continue marching ahead, we'll need at least one of the 3 in order to stay ahead of the race, skill/experience, education or willing to invest in capital means. And I'd hate to say this but unskilled labour being back by minimum wage or unions or government welfare are already very fortunate to live in a luxury first world while at the same time they're just dragging everyone backwards with them.
Title: Re: We are being flooded with far too many immigrants/refugees while 40% of Canadian jobs will disappear
Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2017, 11:23:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2017, 11:23:37 AM
Though I might be a little bit bias, but IMO automation isn't really bad as it seems, in the end both consumer and business can greatly benefit from reduced cost. Even in China with wages only 1/3 of Canada's we've already shifted to a lot of heavy machinery, automation and starting to go into robotic arms for the next phase. And lets be honest as much as customers want cheap products business need cheap wages too to earn a net profit or stay in competition; Plus being in the 21st century we've adopted a lot of military tech, using smartphones and will soon have contact lens that can give us vision like a terminator, as long as we continue marching ahead, we'll need at least one of the 3 in order to stay ahead of the race, skill/experience, education or willing to invest in capital means. And I'd hate to say this but unskilled labour being back by minimum wage or unions or government welfare are already very fortunate to live in a luxury first world while at the same time they're just dragging everyone backwards with them.Quote
In the op, it is not about manufacturing. Automation has been replacing repetitive tasks for decades. The next phase of is eliminating service and white collar jobs. This is happening while every government for the past 26 years has pursued a policy of more immigrants is better. The result will be more people competing for fewer jobs. This will lower wages and benefits for those lucky enough to have a job. The end of the middle class in Canada is coming and it has the blessing of all the political parties.