...have snuck in a change to the laws, that allow police officers to obtain random breath samples from drivers.
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
Even though I'm drunk right now, I do not give a shit.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
I heard the Lieberals are proposing up to 14 years in prison for anyone caught drinking and marijuana impaired while driving.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
It's because many people wanted marijuana legalized.
unfortunately Mel, for every favor granted, there is a price.
For every freedom gained, we lose another and the general population has to suffer for the benefit of the few.
It's akin to people who demand a massive tax cut. So the government gives it to them and then turns around and raises tobacco and liquor taxes.
You don't get something for nothing
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
Well that sucks for you.
I strongly suggest that you buy a bicycle..... :laugh3:
			 
			
			
				In here they always ask license®istration and then they make you blow in the alcometer..
Its standard..
If you see a blockade and you have been drinking, the game is over.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
If you aren't intoxicated, what does it matter?
Also, can you link to this law?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
I heard the Lieberals are proposing up to 14 years in prison for anyone caught drinking and marijuana impaired while driving.
For drinking and driving, I support a solid jail sentence, especially for repeat offenders and double that for those causing bodily harm.
			 
			
			
				The scary thing is Mel is worried about this.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Historically, an officer would need to witness some form of impairment, before a demand could be made (or at least one that would hold up in the courts).
Now, the demand can be made at random.
What are your thoughts on this?
Do you have reason to worry Mel?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Not really.
Just that when I'm out in public, minding my own business, I wouldn't really want to be blowing on the plastic cock just because some cop doesn't like the look of my face...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Not really.
Just that when I'm out in public, minding my own business, I wouldn't really want to be blowing on the plastic cock just because some cop doesn't like the look of my face...
With that red rum blossomed face of yours expect to be asked to blow on a lot of cocks.
			 
			
			
				That's the problem.  Maybe I'm tired after working hard, and the cop doesn't like the way I look.
Should that be reason enough to force me to blow into a plastic cock?  I don't think so.
Sure, if I reek like booze and show signs of impairment, then by all means bust out the plastic cock.  However, if I'm minding my own shit, I don't need to get my "papers checked" randomly.
No doubt groups like MADD play a powerful part in legislation, but I know that MADD has a hidden agenda...  An ulterior motive.
			
			
			
				Justin Trudeau is a clown.  I voted for Harper.
Hopefully people vote out the clown come next election, and get someone proper in there.
Harper wouldn't have ever wanted me to randomly blow into plastic cocks.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Cause he drives under the influence.  He drives for a living.  He should be worried.
Anyone drinking and driving or complaining about retard door knobs should not have a drivers license.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Renee"
With that red rum blossomed face of yours expect to be asked to blow on a lot of cocks.
 :roll:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Cause he drives under the influence.  He drives for a living.  He should be worried.
Anyone drinking and driving or complaining about retard door knobs should not have a drivers license.
I am not proud of it, but I was the same twelve years ago.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Should that be reason enough to force me to blow into a plastic cock?  I don't think so.
Sure, if I reek like booze and show signs of impairment, then by all means bust out the plastic cock.  However, if I'm minding my own shit, I don't need to get my "papers checked" randomly.
No doubt groups like MADD play a powerful part in legislation, but I know that MADD has a hidden agenda...  An ulterior motive.
You seem to be impaired even when you're sober, so you're basically fucked.
			 
			
			
				lol @ Renne
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
They do. They have a horrible secret motive
Keeping drunks from killing / hurting other people is as bad as it gets, eh?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
They do. They have a horrible secret motive
OMIGODNO!!!!! :shock:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Cause he drives under the influence.  He drives for a living.  He should be worried.
Anyone drinking and driving or complaining about retard door knobs should not have a drivers license.
I am not proud of it, but I was the same twelve years ago.
Then you should not have had a drivers licence.  Theres no excuse to drink and drive.  Too many idiots on the road as is.  Jeebus, people so stupid these days, they need a licence to walk...you have no idea how bad I want to run over intentional jay walkers who think they are invincible.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Cause he drives under the influence.  He drives for a living.  He should be worried.
Anyone drinking and driving or complaining about retard door knobs should not have a drivers license.
I am not proud of it, but I was the same twelve years ago.
Then you should not have had a drivers licence.  Theres no excuse to drink and drive.  Too many idiots on the road as is.  Jeebus, people so stupid these days, they need a licence to walk...you have no idea how bad I want to run over intentional jay walkers who think they are invincible.
Iron horse jockey has been candid about his past poor choices..
Thankfully nobody was harmed on the road or on the railroad.
			 
			
			
				Past, present, future...should not be driving under the influence.  Look at how many drunk idiots kill people behind the wheel and they get off on a short prison sentance.  Kids are getting killed.
All vehicles should come with a breathalyzer to start the ignition....<< if this was actually implemented, watch how many people would be late for work or lose their jobs....way too many alcoholics out there!  Even people you would never even guess are alkys...bunch of clowns.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Cause he drives under the influence.  He drives for a living.  He should be worried.
Anyone drinking and driving or complaining about retard door knobs should not have a drivers license.
I am not proud of it, but I was the same twelve years ago.
Then you should not have had a drivers licence.  Theres no excuse to drink and drive.  Too many idiots on the road as is.  Jeebus, people so stupid these days, they need a licence to walk...you have no idea how bad I want to run over intentional jay walkers who think they are invincible.
Never mind the jay walkers.....Shen Li runs people over on the sidewalk. 
Beat that, bitch....  ac_biggrin
			 
			
			
				Look, you fools!  It's not about a desire to "drive around drunk!"
Trust me...  If you drive around drunk, you will get caught, and the penalties are harsh.
This is about shoving the plastic cock into drivers faces, randomly, without needing any justification whatsoever.
It does appear that many are happy with our governments forcing shit into our faces that hamper our principles of freedom.  People went to war, and died, so we could be ensured freedom.
And Berry?  You talk tough, but maybe there should be mandatory drug tests for people like you that collect government assistance...  Positive test result?  Funds cut off.  What would you do then?
Or, would that be too intrusive, Berry?  Random drug tests for those on assistance?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Trust me...  If you drive around drunk, you will get caught, and the penalties are harsh.
This is about shoving the plastic cock into drivers faces, randomly, without needing any justification whatsoever.
It does appear that many are happy with our governments forcing shit into our faces that hamper our principles of freedom.  People went to war, and died, so we could be ensured freedom.
And Berry?  You talk tough, but maybe there should be mandatory drug tests for people like you that collect government assistance...  Positive test result?  Funds cut off.  What would you do then?
Or, would that be too intrusive, Berry?  Random drug tests for those on assistance?
The sacrifices people have made in the cause of freedom have nothing to do with law enforcement's responsibility of stopping you from driving shit faced. 
The majority of the non alcohol soaked population has a right to be FREE from besotted idiots and losers like you. People like you who wake up each day with breath that could blow a 2.0 and then head out to cause mayhem on the roads, should be stopped by using whatever means necessary. This is just one of the many things that need to be done in order to ensure the ever shrinking amount of safety a free people are entitled to. Can we at least have THAT without idiots like you shitting yourselves over the loss of perceived rights that you never had in the first place?
Chronic drunks who drive while under the influence are just as detrimental to the population as gang bangers, drug pushers, terrorists and people who misuse firearms. There is no applicable form of freedom to be equated in any of that shit 
Fucking dummy.... Have another beer, it must be close to daylight in that hillbilly enclave where you live.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
All vehicles should come with a breathalyzer to start the ignition....<< if this was actually implemented, watch how many people would be late for work or lose their jobs....way too many alcoholics out there!  Even people you would never even guess are alkys...bunch of clowns.
You have a point Berry..
But, I like iron horse jockey and I give him credit for turning his life around.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
All vehicles should come with a breathalyzer to start the ignition.
I am not opposed to the idea. But, I do not want any legislation that adds to the cost for consumers. There's no need to punish the 99.6 per cent of us who never drive impaired.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
All vehicles should come with a breathalyzer to start the ignition....<< if this was actually implemented, watch how many people would be late for work or lose their jobs....way too many alcoholics out there!  Even people you would never even guess are alkys...bunch of clowns.
You have a point Berry..
But, I like iron horse jockey and I give him credit for turning his life around.
I do not disagree with what she wrote. I no longer put other people's lives at risk.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
All vehicles should come with a breathalyzer to start the ignition.
I am not opposed to the idea. But, I do not want any legislation that adds to the cost for consumers. There's no need to punish the 99.6 per cent of us who never drive impaired.
Agreed