We are rounding out our last month or so of elementary school. The kids have been registered for high school and all those fun life changes that go with children aging are upon us (much to my chagrin!) I'm wondering what it's really like to have a couple of teenagers in the house. Does anyone have any insight they could offer on life with teens?
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My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
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Hold me,
You should be.......Bwahahahahaha
Best answer......Bwahahahahaha
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
High school is grades eight through twelve? High school is grades 9 through12 here.
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
High school is grades eight through twelve? High school is grades 9 through12 here.
It's been 8-12 since I was in school.
Don't you have grade 13?
Come on, seriously now. I need some advice on parenting teens!
My daughter will be sixteen this year..
She doesn't enjoy spending time with her family..
She'd rather be with friends..
Hopefully this phase won't last too long.
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If you did the ground work you should be fine. They have boundaries you have set and let them know you expect them to stay within those. It's not really any different. New boundaries can be negotiated as they get older. Change nothing until they have earned it. You're not there to be their friend.
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
High school is grades eight through twelve? High school is grades 9 through12 here.
It's been 8-12 since I was in school.
Don't you have grade 13?
It's history. A good number of students return for a fifth year to improve their grades and make their application for university more competitive.
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That is key kiebers..
It doesn't start when your child turns 13.
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I do not have kids, so I cannot speak as a parent. I know as a teen, I did not listen to my parents.
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Teenagers think they know better than their parents.
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
For the most part your experience is going to be a little difficult. If you are anything like me it's going to be hard to accept that your once little leg huggers are growing up and developing in actual people.
But beyond that I guess you can expect whatever your kids are capable of. Each child is different depending on their character, attitude and upbringing. Of course there are always exceptions so never underestimate the trouble they can get themselves into.
Just think about your experience in HS and what you went through and you have some of the battle contained. You'll know what to watch for and have a good idea what to expect. The HS experience hasn't changed a hell of a lot since most of us were there. Yes, the way academics are administered may have changed with technology but the overall social dynamic is still basically the same.
There will be relationship trials and tribulations of a level that will be "earth shattering" and even though they will appear stupid and trivial to you, you have to keep cool and try to explain to your kids that after the next 4 years, not one bit of it will amount to a hill of beans. Also you can expect then not to get it until they either get accepted to college or join the workforce.
I've been relatively lucky with my first three....so far...no major issues beyond the usual HS social highs and lows. My girls have never had any major issues or challenges academically or behaviourally. I also kept my girls focused on their non academic interests and luckily those interests were all tied to school in some way. So in many respects, my life as a parent with teens has been pretty smooth, all things considered. As with vehicle mileage, your experience will vary.
^What are the ages of the oldest 3?
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If they are good kids, you leave them alone to follow their own path, which they may just do on their own.
If they are bad kids, you keep a BakeLite rotary phone handy... The receiver will be useful to ensure compliance. And once they are 18, you kick them the fuck out.
Kids will not turn out like you think they will... The ones that are smart, will go on to good things. The ones that are useless won't. Parenting has very little effect on the outcome of their children... It is mostly genetic (smart people are smart, and dumb people are dumb, and this cannot be changed)...
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If they are good kids, you leave them alone to follow their own path, which they may just do on their own.
If they are bad kids, you keep a BakeLite rotary phone handy... The receiver will be useful to ensure compliance. And once they are 18, you kick them the fuck out.
Kids will not turn out like you think they will... The ones that are smart, will go on to good things. The ones that are useless won't. Parenting has very little effect on the outcome of their children... It is mostly genetic (smart people are smart, and dumb people are dumb, and this cannot be changed)...
This from our resident alcoholic woman hater who has never raised a child, and thinks children are something that only women want to use as a weapon against men.... :laugh3:
Your opinion is invalid because it's WRONG. People are not born with an innate sense of good and bad...that's a learned behavior. How a child turns out is as much a product of nurture as it is nature. You're a prime example of that...you grew up in a dysfunctional alcoholic family and you turned out the same. You are an attention seeking little pest because you were neglected by parents that couldn't careless about you. If you had been raised by parents that gave a crap or at least had marginal parenting skills, you would have stood a better chance of turning out somewhat less of a frickin asshole.
Ironically you are too butt blind stupid to even see that simple and obvious fact.
I swear you just look for threads to stick your dumbass nose into just so you can gush over the ignorant response that dribbles out of your self absorbed head.... :laugh3:
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My oldest just turned 21, the others are 18, and 16.
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My oldest just turned 21, the others are 18, and 16.
Your oldest is in university?
Is the second oldest going to university in the fall?
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Hold me, I'm scared.
My son is only twelve, so I can't say from personal experience what two teens at home would be like..
Renee is the expert about that..
Do you mean they are going into senior high?
Is there junior high where you live?
There is no junior high so they are going into high school which is grades 8 to 12. Both my midgets are still only 12 but they have December birthdays which is why they are starting high school in September.
For the most part your experience is going to be a little difficult. If you are anything like me it's going to be hard to accept that your once little leg huggers are growing up and developing in actual people.
But beyond that I guess you can expect whatever your kids are capable of. Each child is different depending on their character, attitude and upbringing. Of course there are always exceptions so never underestimate the trouble they can get themselves into.
Just think about your experience in HS and what you went through and you have some of the battle contained. You'll know what to watch for and have a good idea what to expect. The HS experience hasn't changed a hell of a lot since most of us were there. Yes, the way academics are administered may have changed with technology but the overall social dynamic is still basically the same.
There will be relationship trials and tribulations of a level that will be "earth shattering" and even though they will appear stupid and trivial to you, you have to keep cool and try to explain to your kids that after the next 4 years, not one bit of it will amount to a hill of beans. Also you can expect then not to get it until they either get accepted to college or join the workforce.
I've been relatively lucky with my first three....so far...no major issues beyond the usual HS social highs and lows. My girls have never had any major issues or challenges academically or behaviourally. I also kept my girls focused on their non academic interests and luckily those interests were all tied to school in some way. So in many respects, my life as a parent with teens has been pretty smooth, all things considered. As with vehicle mileage, your experience will vary.
Your first three? Dayum.
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My oldest just turned 21, the others are 18, and 16.
Your oldest is in university?
Is the second oldest going to university in the fall?
Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
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My oldest just turned 21, the others are 18, and 16.
Your oldest is in university?
Is the second oldest going to university in the fall?
Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
Raising kids sounds really expensive. I have a sister with two kids. Always major expenses and they are a long way from post secondary yet.
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Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
Your oldest daughter is going to be a veterinarian.....wonderful..
My daughter is looking at the health care field or teaching..
She's not quite sixteen yet, so she has time to decide..
My prediction is that my son will get into an indentured apprenticeship and become a journeyman tradesman just like his dad.
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It is Seoul, especially their private school education..
We watch expenses in other areas though..
Our mortgage will be paid off the end of August, so that will help our budget a lot.
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Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
Your oldest daughter is going to be a veterinarian.....wonderful..
My daughter is looking at the health care field or teaching..
She's not quite sixteen yet, so she has time to decide..
My prediction is that my son will get into an indentured apprenticeship and become a journeyman tradesman just like his dad.
I'm sure your kids will have no trouble doing just fine no matter what they choose to be in life.
Hell, as an Asian parent you won't except anything less... :laugh3:
But seriously, whatever our kids decide to be...all we as parents can do is let them follow their ambitions, guide them as much as they will let us and hope and pray that they are successful... :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
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Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
Your oldest daughter is going to be a veterinarian.....wonderful..
My daughter is looking at the health care field or teaching..
She's not quite sixteen yet, so she has time to decide..
My prediction is that my son will get into an indentured apprenticeship and become a journeyman tradesman just like his dad.
I'm sure your kids will have no trouble doing just fine no matter what they choose to be in life.
Hell, as an Asian parent you won't except anything less... :laugh3:
But seriously, whatever our kids decide to be...all we as parents can do is let them follow their ambitions, guide them as much as they will let us and hope and pray that they are successful... :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
I would agree with you Renee, but we don't have unlimited resources..
We will pay for our children's education to the end of an undergraduate degree, but it has to be in something that leads to employment..
It's good you can afford to pay for your daughter to study drama, but it's not an option for us.
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Both are in college.
My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
My second oldest is supposed to be studying criminal justice and forensics at Michigan State.... :nea: Unfortunately she has a bit of a chip on her shoulder and is fucking around. I have a feeling she will be going to community college next year until she gets her head right.
My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
My ex better keep up the service contracts....these kids are getting really expensive....
Your oldest daughter is going to be a veterinarian.....wonderful..
My daughter is looking at the health care field or teaching..
She's not quite sixteen yet, so she has time to decide..
My prediction is that my son will get into an indentured apprenticeship and become a journeyman tradesman just like his dad.
I'm sure your kids will have no trouble doing just fine no matter what they choose to be in life.
Hell, as an Asian parent you won't except anything less... :laugh3:
But seriously, whatever our kids decide to be...all we as parents can do is let them follow their ambitions, guide them as much as they will let us and hope and pray that they are successful... :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
I would agree with you Renee, but we don't have unlimited resources..
We will pay for our children's education to the end of an undergraduate degree, but it has to be in something that leads to employment..
It's good you can afford to pay for your daughter to study drama, but it's not an option for us.
Myself and my ex-husband do not have unlimited resources as well. But we both agreed a long time ago that not nurturing a talent that a child shows an aptitude for, is doing that child a great disservice.
I saw it happen with my sister. My sister is an incredibly talented artist. She earned a partial scholarship to Columbia University's fine arts program and my parents treated it like it was a joke. They thought an art degree was a luxury despite the fact that there are endless opportunities in the graphic arts field for employment, if you have talent. They only grudgingly picked up some of the balance of tab and I firmly believe they only did so out of a feeling of obligation.
She attended school for 2.5 of Columbia's 4 year program and when the money got tight, she listened to all the naysayers and dropped out. I wanted to strangle her.
Now my little sister has always been a little flighty, most artistic people are but not a day goes by where I know she doesn't regret not finishing her degree. If my parents had only shown a little more support, she would have finished and earned her bachelor's and now who knows where she could have gone or accomplished in her life.
My parents did the same with me, only not to as severe a degree. I earned a full athletic scholarship to Rutgers Univ and instead of letting me go into the fine arts program they convinced me to go for liberal arts and become a teacher. Why I listened to them; to this day I have no idea because I rarely ever listened to them before then. But in reality, I'm no more cut out to be a teacher than the man in the moon.
With all due respect, you have to do as you see fit by your children but I can not bring myself to limit my child's legitimate aspirations, even if I have to kill myself to make it happen. My daughter has a talent for acting, music and voice and if theater is where she wants to stake her claim in life, I will do what I can to help make that happen.
You have a great and very supportive attitude Renee. I'm going to put that one in the book.
My son has a liberal arts degree. I paid for everything for his entire four years at university in Regina including a car. I was working all over the frickin world and I was not around much when he was growing up. Although I was not impressed he wanted me to pay for his useless hobby degree, I felt a bit guilty about being away all the time and picked up the bill anyway.
He travelled and had odd jobs after he graduated. About two years ago he got a job with the federal civil service and took a year off to travel around Australia right after he completed probation. He came back, was able to return to his job and lives with his Aussie girlfriend in Regina. They are both studying French now and he hopes to get a transfer to Quebec. Good to see at twenty six he is finally learning to stand on his own two pins. I can thank his Aussie girlfriend for that.
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Okay, before you go putting anything in books, let me clarify a bit. When I say I will do anything to nurture my child's aspirations, I do have limits in terms of what I will accept as their aspirations.
If a child has a legitimate aptitude, desire or passion for something that truly makes them happy in life then by all mean I will do what I can to help make it happen for them. I'm even willing to give them a generous amount of time to find their place in this world and passion. BUT if any child of mine as aspirations to just float through life working unskilled labor jobs because they are too lazy or too scared to step up and find themselves....then we have a problem and just watch how un-supportive I can be.
I will not stand by while one of my kids pidgin holes themselves into an existence that does not live up to their potential. I believe that anyone who has not even made an attempt to give themselves a leg up in this world is wasting their life. If you are happy standing in front of a cash register for 8 hours a day or flipping burgers at McDonald's or sweeping up vomit in a bar room crapper, then you are either comatose or lying to yourself and no one can make me think differently.
People here have accused me of being a "snob" or an elitist because of that attitude. But if that's what a "snob" is, then you call me a "snob" all day long.
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Myself and my ex-husband do not have unlimited resources as well. But we both agreed a long time ago that not nurturing a talent that a child shows an aptitude for, is doing that child a great disservice.
I saw it happen with my sister. My sister is an incredibly talented artist. She earned a partial scholarship to Columbia University's fine arts program and my parents treated it like it was a joke. They thought an art degree was a luxury despite the fact that there are endless opportunities in the graphic arts field for employment, if you have talent. They only grudgingly picked up some of the balance of tab and I firmly believe they only did so out of a feeling of obligation.
She attended school for 2.5 of Columbia's 4 year program and when the money got tight, she listened to all the naysayers and dropped out. I wanted to strangle her.
Now my little sister has always been a little flighty, most artistic people are but not a day goes by where I know she doesn't regret not finishing her degree. If my parents had only shown a little more support, she would have finished and earned her bachelor's and now who knows where she could have gone or accomplished in her life.
My parents did the same with me, only not to as severe a degree. I earned a full athletic scholarship to Rutgers Univ and instead of letting me go into the fine arts program they convinced me to go for liberal arts and become a teacher. Why I listened to them; to this day I have no idea because I rarely ever listened to them before then. But in reality, I'm no more cut out to be a teacher than the man in the moon.
With all due respect, you have to do as you see fit by your children but I can not bring myself to limit my child's legitimate aspirations, even if I have to kill myself to make it happen. My daughter has a talent for acting, music and voice and if theater is where she wants to stake her claim in life, I will do what I can to help make that happen.
If one of my kids has an artistic gift, I would encourage them to pursue..
But, it's important to my husband and I they have something to fall back on..
I know of talented musicians and athletes that were not able to earn their living from their gift and are now living in poverty.
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Okay, before you go putting anything in books, let me clarify a bit. When I say I will do anything to nurture my child's aspirations, I do have limits in terms of what I will accept as their aspirations.
If a child has a legitimate aptitude, desire or passion for something that truly makes them happy in life then by all mean I will do what I can to help make it happen for them. I'm even willing to give them a generous amount of time to find their place in this world and passion. BUT if any child of mine as aspirations to just float through life working unskilled labor jobs because they are too lazy or too scared to step up and find themselves....then we have a problem and just watch how un-supportive I can be.
I will not stand by while one of my kids pidgin holes themselves into an existence that does not live up to their potential. I believe that anyone who has not even made an attempt to give themselves a leg up in this world is wasting their life. If you are happy standing in front of a cash register for 8 hours a day or flipping burgers at McDonald's or sweeping up vomit in a bar room crapper, then you are either comatose or lying to yourself and no one can make me think differently.
People here have accused me of being a "snob" or an elitist because of that attitude. But if that's what a "snob" is, then you call me a "snob" all day long.
I definitely wasn't under the impression that your comment meant letting kids coast through life. I just like this attitude of supporting their aptitudes and encouraging them to follow their curiousities and passions.
It's perfectly fine to be a snob in this case :)
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Myself and my ex-husband do not have unlimited resources as well. But we both agreed a long time ago that not nurturing a talent that a child shows an aptitude for, is doing that child a great disservice.
I saw it happen with my sister. My sister is an incredibly talented artist. She earned a partial scholarship to Columbia University's fine arts program and my parents treated it like it was a joke. They thought an art degree was a luxury despite the fact that there are endless opportunities in the graphic arts field for employment, if you have talent. They only grudgingly picked up some of the balance of tab and I firmly believe they only did so out of a feeling of obligation.
She attended school for 2.5 of Columbia's 4 year program and when the money got tight, she listened to all the naysayers and dropped out. I wanted to strangle her.
Now my little sister has always been a little flighty, most artistic people are but not a day goes by where I know she doesn't regret not finishing her degree. If my parents had only shown a little more support, she would have finished and earned her bachelor's and now who knows where she could have gone or accomplished in her life.
My parents did the same with me, only not to as severe a degree. I earned a full athletic scholarship to Rutgers Univ and instead of letting me go into the fine arts program they convinced me to go for liberal arts and become a teacher. Why I listened to them; to this day I have no idea because I rarely ever listened to them before then. But in reality, I'm no more cut out to be a teacher than the man in the moon.
With all due respect, you have to do as you see fit by your children but I can not bring myself to limit my child's legitimate aspirations, even if I have to kill myself to make it happen. My daughter has a talent for acting, music and voice and if theater is where she wants to stake her claim in life, I will do what I can to help make that happen.
If one of my kids has an artistic gift, I would encourage them to pursue..
But, it's important to my husband and I they have something to fall back on..
I know of talented musicians and athletes that were not able to earn their living from their gift and are now living in poverty.
Well if they can't make a living that's their own fault.
You can always do something to pay the bills. I'm living proof of that. I came out of college with a history degree with a minor in early childhood development. I taught for one year and hated it....with a passion.
I then went to work doing clerical work for a consulting engineer and for Catholic Charities. It wasn't exactly exciting stuff but it paid the bills. I took certificate courses at a local community college in Microsoft office, and ACad, I tapped knowledge from my mom who is a CPA and learned bookkeeping and basic accounting. I learned all the office skills that would later allow my husband and I to run a successful business.
I'm still taking courses to further my education only now they are on line. About 5 months ago, I earned my associates PHR certification and am now working toward my full SPHR.
Education should never end or else you stagnate professionally as well as personally.
When a child goes off to college to major in something like a fine arts degree, you as a responsible parent, need to encourage them to minor in something that they can use as a backup. It's also your responsibility to instill in them the idea that you never stop learning. In fact many professional settings nowadays require that you continue your education if you want to climb up the ladder and continue to grow professionally.
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You can always do something to pay the bills. I'm living proof of that. I came out of college with a history degree with a minor in early childhood development. I taught for one year and hated it....with a passion.
I then went to work doing clerical work for a consulting engineer and for Catholic Charities. It wasn't exactly exciting stuff but it paid the bills. I took certificate courses at a local community college in Microsoft office, and ACad, I tapped knowledge from my mom who is a CPA and learned bookkeeping and basic accounting. I learned all the office skills that would later allow my husband and I to run a successful business.
I'm still taking courses to further my education only now they are on line. About 5 months ago, I earned my associates PHR certification and am now working toward my full SPHR.
Education should never end or else you stagnate professionally as well as personally.
When a child goes off to college to major in something like a fine arts degree, you as a responsible parent, need to encourage them to minor in something that they can use as a backup. It's also your responsibility to instill in them the idea that you never stop learning. In fact many professional settings nowadays require that you continue your education if you want to climb up the ladder and continue to grow professionally.
There are is a finite number of positions on professional hockey team for example, so despite having talent, it may not be enough to get a pro contract..
A woman in my church is a terrific artist, but not good enough to earn a living from her paintings..
Thankfully she had a degree in addictions counselling and now a MA that she could help support her family..
I agree, education no longer ends when one is awarded an undergraduate degree, but when we're paying, we demand it be in something that gives our children a real occupation..
I should add that when my children are into occupations and able to support themselves, I will enroll in an online university program and hopefully earn a BA.
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You can always do something to pay the bills. I'm living proof of that. I came out of college with a history degree with a minor in early childhood development. I taught for one year and hated it....with a passion.
I then went to work doing clerical work for a consulting engineer and for Catholic Charities. It wasn't exactly exciting stuff but it paid the bills. I took certificate courses at a local community college in Microsoft office, and ACad, I tapped knowledge from my mom who is a CPA and learned bookkeeping and basic accounting. I learned all the office skills that would later allow my husband and I to run a successful business.
I'm still taking courses to further my education only now they are on line. About 5 months ago, I earned my associates PHR certification and am now working toward my full SPHR.
Education should never end or else you stagnate professionally as well as personally.
When a child goes off to college to major in something like a fine arts degree, you as a responsible parent, need to encourage them to minor in something that they can use as a backup. It's also your responsibility to instill in them the idea that you never stop learning. In fact many professional settings nowadays require that you continue your education if you want to climb up the ladder and continue to grow professionally.
There are is a finite number of positions on professional hockey team for example, so despite having talent, it may not be enough to get a pro contract..
A woman in my church is a terrific artist, but not good enough to earn a living from her paintings..
Thankfully she had a degree in addictions counselling and now a MA that she could help support her family..
I agree, education no longer ends when one is awarded an undergraduate degree, but when we're paying, we demand it be in something that gives our children a real occupation..
I should add that when my children are into occupations and able to support themselves, I will enroll in an online university program and hopefully earn a BA.
My advice to you is....don't wait that long.
You're realistically looking at at 8 years before your 16 year old daughter becomes self sufficient to a degree where she can survive on her own. I think you and I are pretty close in age and IMHO, that's too long to wait to pursue a post secondary education.
I studied mechanical engineering in university for a year before dropping out at the start of the second year. I got lucky and was able to find something that allowed me a good middle class life. But, I still wish I had successfully completed my studies.
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My opinion is valid. Plenty of people became hugely successful, despite having a difficult upbringing.
On the flipside, plenty of people became useless bums, junkies, and criminals, even though they had a good upbringing and every opportunity available to them.
My opinion is valid because I am of the belief that upbringing and/or parenting is somewhat overrated in the whole scheme of how a person eventually 'turns out.'
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You can always do something to pay the bills. I'm living proof of that. I came out of college with a history degree with a minor in early childhood development. I taught for one year and hated it....with a passion.
I then went to work doing clerical work for a consulting engineer and for Catholic Charities. It wasn't exactly exciting stuff but it paid the bills. I took certificate courses at a local community college in Microsoft office, and ACad, I tapped knowledge from my mom who is a CPA and learned bookkeeping and basic accounting. I learned all the office skills that would later allow my husband and I to run a successful business.
I'm still taking courses to further my education only now they are on line. About 5 months ago, I earned my associates PHR certification and am now working toward my full SPHR.
Education should never end or else you stagnate professionally as well as personally.
When a child goes off to college to major in something like a fine arts degree, you as a responsible parent, need to encourage them to minor in something that they can use as a backup. It's also your responsibility to instill in them the idea that you never stop learning. In fact many professional settings nowadays require that you continue your education if you want to climb up the ladder and continue to grow professionally.
There are is a finite number of positions on professional hockey team for example, so despite having talent, it may not be enough to get a pro contract..
A woman in my church is a terrific artist, but not good enough to earn a living from her paintings..
Thankfully she had a degree in addictions counselling and now a MA that she could help support her family..
I agree, education no longer ends when one is awarded an undergraduate degree, but when we're paying, we demand it be in something that gives our children a real occupation..
I should add that when my children are into occupations and able to support themselves, I will enroll in an online university program and hopefully earn a BA.
My advice to you is....don't wait that long.
You're realistically looking at at 8 years before your 16 year old daughter becomes self sufficient to a degree where she can survive on her own. I think you and I are pretty close in age and IMHO, that's too long to wait to pursue a post secondary education.
That's the advice my mother gave me..
But, I don't want to spend money on myself when our priority is our children's education..
I do not need a degree, I want one.
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You can always do something to pay the bills. I'm living proof of that. I came out of college with a history degree with a minor in early childhood development. I taught for one year and hated it....with a passion.
I then went to work doing clerical work for a consulting engineer and for Catholic Charities. It wasn't exactly exciting stuff but it paid the bills. I took certificate courses at a local community college in Microsoft office, and ACad, I tapped knowledge from my mom who is a CPA and learned bookkeeping and basic accounting. I learned all the office skills that would later allow my husband and I to run a successful business.
I'm still taking courses to further my education only now they are on line. About 5 months ago, I earned my associates PHR certification and am now working toward my full SPHR.
Education should never end or else you stagnate professionally as well as personally.
When a child goes off to college to major in something like a fine arts degree, you as a responsible parent, need to encourage them to minor in something that they can use as a backup. It's also your responsibility to instill in them the idea that you never stop learning. In fact many professional settings nowadays require that you continue your education if you want to climb up the ladder and continue to grow professionally.
There are is a finite number of positions on professional hockey team for example, so despite having talent, it may not be enough to get a pro contract..
A woman in my church is a terrific artist, but not good enough to earn a living from her paintings..
Thankfully she had a degree in addictions counselling and now a MA that she could help support her family..
I agree, education no longer ends when one is awarded an undergraduate degree, but when we're paying, we demand it be in something that gives our children a real occupation..
I should add that when my children are into occupations and able to support themselves, I will enroll in an online university program and hopefully earn a BA.
My advice to you is....don't wait that long.
You're realistically looking at at 8 years before your 16 year old daughter becomes self sufficient to a degree where she can survive on her own. I think you and I are pretty close in age and IMHO, that's too long to wait to pursue a post secondary education.
That's the advice my mother gave me..
But, I don't want to spend money on myself when our priority is our children's education..
I do not need a degree, I want one.
Whenever you decide to return to full time studies, I am sure you will be successful.
One thing I wish I did looking back was wish I had signed up or paticapated in after school offred programs like Music (learn a instrument) and Sports (Football/Rugby/wreslting) that is my one regret.
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Hello. Thanks for having me! My name is Gurminder Singh Sidhu, but you can call me Sikh Sidhu!
I bring love and peace, and the teachings of the Guru! The Guru Nanak! If you have any questions about the Sikh faith, culture, or people, you can ask me, Sikh Sudhu!
Since it was mentioned in part by Mel, how do you parents feel about encouraging teenagers to live independently when they have finished high school?
I think most of us remember wanting to live on our own as young adults, and once we did move out we discovered how different life can be when you have to pay bills, do our own chores, and financially support our lifestyles.
I don't have any children, but I feel like kids are growing to be more open minded than I was at that age. I'd recommend establishing a rapport with your kids so they trust you and you in turn can learn to trust them. This would of course involve instilling the idea that they can speak frankly with you about anything at all with a level of unconditional support and honest feedback.
If I had that with my parents, I think I would have gone further in my endeavors.
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I think most of us remember wanting to live on our own as young adults, and once we did move out we discovered how different life can be when you have to pay bills, do our own chores, and financially support our lifestyles.
I don't have any children, but I feel like kids are growing to be more open minded than I was at that age. I'd recommend establishing a rapport with your kids so they trust you and you in turn can learn to trust them. This would of course involve instilling the idea that they can speak frankly with you about anything at all with a level of unconditional support and honest feedback.
If I had that with my parents, I think I would have gone further in my endeavors.
We have set it up so our kids can tell us anything and everything and they do tell us a lot.
We are hoping to have our kids live on campus while going to school. I think they will have a better experience and have the independence they crave without too much of the worry.
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I think most of us remember wanting to live on our own as young adults, and once we did move out we discovered how different life can be when you have to pay bills, do our own chores, and financially support our lifestyles.
I don't have any children, but I feel like kids are growing to be more open minded than I was at that age. I'd recommend establishing a rapport with your kids so they trust you and you in turn can learn to trust them. This would of course involve instilling the idea that they can speak frankly with you about anything at all with a level of unconditional support and honest feedback.
If I had that with my parents, I think I would have gone further in my endeavors.
We have set it up so our kids can tell us anything and everything and they do tell us a lot.
We are hoping to have our kids live on campus while going to school. I think they will have a better experience and have the independence they crave without too much of the worry.
We want our daughter living at home and going to university in Calgary..
Living away from home at such a young age, I'd die from worry.
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Good luck with that lol.
This is when they "think" they know everything, and can do what they want. Dont let them run over you, raise your voice and get mad if you have to. Cause if they think they can get away with something they will. Not saying yell at them all the time, but sometimes they need a reality check/wake up call.
When his mom died I cut him slack, wish I never had to a degree. Now hes 18, graduates tonight, and is a lazy turd when it comes to around the house. I came home from vacation and blew up on him for how the house was. I foresee lots of rule changes coming, cause he aint gonna not do anything and think he can just come and go as he pleases without any responsibility.
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She doesn't enjoy spending time with her family..
She'd rather be with friends..
Hopefully this phase won't last too long.
This is what happened with my son. Think it passes in their 20's some time. At lease thats when I started coming around again, cause I remember that stage too lol.
You dont look like you have a 16 year old lol.
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My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
I saw Washington State university while in Seattle! Passed it anyway lol.
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My third has another year to go in HS but she wants to go to school for drama...her first choice is probably going to be NYU or Pace Univ.
I was encouraged to take drama, wish I had. Teacher thought I was good at. Would've been a door to a better career that I like Im sure.
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My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
I saw Washington State university while in Seattle! Passed it anyway lol.
How was your trip Blazor?
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My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
I saw Washington State university while in Seattle! Passed it anyway lol.
How was your trip Blazor?
So awesome! Cant wait to share some pics and stuff ac_smile
Catch up day on a Monday here at work :yuk:
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My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
I saw Washington State university while in Seattle! Passed it anyway lol.
How was your trip Blazor?
So awesome! Cant wait to share some pics and stuff ac_smile
Catch up day on a Monday here at work :yuk:
It's Victoria Day here.
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My oldest is finishing her second year at Washington State Univ...she just found out that she got accepted to their pre-vet program a year earlier than she expected.
I saw Washington State university while in Seattle! Passed it anyway lol.
How was your trip Blazor?
So awesome! Cant wait to share some pics and stuff ac_smile
Catch up day on a Monday here at work :yuk:
It's Victoria Day here.
Unofficial kick off of summer.
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Way back when I was in high school, all the instruments were wind instruments except for drums. I didn't want to learn how to play clarinet or trombone.
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Way back when I was in high school, all the instruments were wind instruments except for drums. I didn't want to learn how to play clarinet or trombone.
We didn't have music or sports at my high school..
It wasn't even a real school at the time.