The U.S. has "successfully intercepted" an intercontinental ballistic missile (//http) during the first test of its ground-based intercept system, the U.S. Missile Defense Agency said Tuesday............
........... The ICBM-target was launched from the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site on Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands, 4,200 miles away.
"The intercept of a complex, threat-representative ICBM target is an incredible accomplishment for the GMD [Ground-based Missile Defense] system and a critical milestone for this program," said Missile Defense Agency Director Vice Adm. Jim Syring. ............
This is the first ever intercept of a long range ICBM .. "Like hitting a bullet with a bullet ... far up in space" ... will give Kim something to think on :wink:
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The U.S. has "successfully intercepted" an intercontinental ballistic missile (//http) during the first test of its ground-based intercept system, the U.S. Missile Defense Agency said Tuesday............
........... The ICBM-target was launched from the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site on Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands, 4,200 miles away.
"The intercept of a complex, threat-representative ICBM target is an incredible accomplishment for the GMD [Ground-based Missile Defense] system and a critical milestone for this program," said Missile Defense Agency Director Vice Adm. Jim Syring. ............
This is the first ever intercept of a long range ICBM .. "Like hitting a bullet with a bullet ... far up in space" ... will give Kim something to think on :wink:
I guess this is a good thing from a technology perspective..
Will it spark a new race to get around the intercepting of ICBM's?
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In a move that is being described by officials as "historic," and has the manufacturers of the systems drooling about making and selling more of them the US managed to "successfully" intercept an "ICBM" today at the Ronald Reagan Missile Defense Test Site, in Kwajaleiin Atoll.
This is meant to be interpreted by the public, and particularly the check-writers in Congress, as proof the US missile defense system "works" and could shoot down ICBMs fired by North Korea at the US mainland, across the Pacific Ocean, foiling a potential attack.
The missile defense system actually only managed to shoot down a slower moving, "threat-representative" ICBM-styled target, and then with exact specifications from the side that fired the object about the target's size, time of firing, and precise trajectory.
That means knowing every bit of information about the target, the US missile defense system managed to physically hit the object under 100% optimal conditions, which should be little assurance of its functionality, particularly since previous tests under similarly optimal conditions have succeeded only about half the time.
An actual ICBM would not only be faster, but the US wouldn't know its exact specifications, exact trajectory, or the specific instant it was fired. Perhaps the biggest problem is they wouldn't have this data weeks in advance to pre-position the missile defense exactly where it would have the best shot of doing something.
//http://news.antiwar.com/2017/05/30/us-missile-defense-success-doesnt-translate-to-battlefield-readiness/
Likely about as "successful" as an F-35 test. Billions of dollars later...
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In a move that is being described by officials as "historic," and has the manufacturers of the systems drooling about making and selling more of them the US managed to "successfully" intercept an "ICBM" today at the Ronald Reagan Missile Defense Test Site, in Kwajaleiin Atoll.
This is meant to be interpreted by the public, and particularly the check-writers in Congress, as proof the US missile defense system "works" and could shoot down ICBMs fired by North Korea at the US mainland, across the Pacific Ocean, foiling a potential attack.
The missile defense system actually only managed to shoot down a slower moving, "threat-representative" ICBM-styled target, and then with exact specifications from the side that fired the object about the target's size, time of firing, and precise trajectory.
That means knowing every bit of information about the target, the US missile defense system managed to physically hit the object under 100% optimal conditions, which should be little assurance of its functionality, particularly since previous tests under similarly optimal conditions have succeeded only about half the time.
An actual ICBM would not only be faster, but the US wouldn't know its exact specifications, exact trajectory, or the specific instant it was fired. Perhaps the biggest problem is they wouldn't have this data weeks in advance to pre-position the missile defense exactly where it would have the best shot of doing something.
//http://news.antiwar.com/2017/05/30/us-missile-defense-success-doesnt-translate-to-battlefield-readiness/
Likely about as "successful" as an F-35 test. Billions of dollars later...
More gossip blogs. :dash1:
FFS,you're supposed to be a man. Is it going to kill you to act like it.
Yeah that reads like the Edmonton Sun.
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Yeah that reads like the Edmonton Sun.
Most respected news publication in Canada.
A pretty good shot for the first test.
There will be misses along the way as they make it harder each time (as planned), but long range it will be great protection so that goofball sites like anti-war & similar ilk can attack "shields" as being very bad as vs swords that can kill people .. I feel it coming
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A pretty good shot for the first test.
There will be misses along the way as they make it harder each time (as planned), but long range it will be great protection so that goofball sites like anti-war etc. can attack "shields" as very bad as vs swords
Will it spark an arms race to develop missiles that can't be intercepted?
Fair point. It may cause others to "try to" make existing missiles less detectable, but that's not an arms race. It's pretty hard to even try to be undetectable with a physical presence and with fire as necessary to propel a missile .... to infra red and other detection methods located in space.
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Fair point. It may cause others to "try to" make existing missiles less detectable, but that's not an arms race. It's pretty hard to even try to be undetectable with a physical presence and with fire as necessary to propel a missile .... to infra red and other detection methods located in space.
But, maybe someone could invent a way.
Bow down to the superior Germanic Peoples for inventing the modern missile!
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Bow down to the superior Germanic Peoples for inventing the modern missile!
Han Chinese invented rockets when Europeans were living like the baboons they really are.
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Han Chinese invented rockets when Europeans were living like the baboons they really are.
Look, a bottle rocket cannot compare to a self-guided missile.
Now bow down to the superior race!
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Gunpowder was invented by Chinese Taoist alchemists about 1000 A.D

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Meanwhile in Europe at the time.

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Gunpowder was invented by Chinese Taoist alchemists about 1000 A.D

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Meanwhile in Europe at the time.

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Both of you are silly.
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Both of you are silly.
I know!
Shen's always silly. I'm just trying to match her silliness...
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Both of you are silly.
I know!
Shen's always silly. I'm just trying to match her silliness...
This may sound like what an eight year old would say, but you started it and with this, Bow down to the superior Germanic Peoples for inventing the modern missile!
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This may sound like what an eight year old would say, but you started it and with this, Bow down to the superior Germanic Peoples for inventing the modern missile!
Oh really!
I threw a bone, and Shen took it.
I know how much she likes white people, and figured a thread such as that might get a few posters posting!
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
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This may sound like what an eight year old would say, but you started it and with this, Bow down to the superior Germanic Peoples for inventing the modern missile!
Oh really!
I threw a bone, and Shen took it.
I know how much she likes white people, and figured a thread such as that might get a few posters posting!
Or maybe she responded knowing how much you love minorities.
:icon_wink:
Sure!
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Likely about as "successful" as an F-35 test. Billions of dollars later...
Dude.
Check your reference.
Seriously?
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Quote from: "Romero"
Likely about as "successful" as an F-35 test. Billions of dollars later...
Dude.
Check your reference.
Seriously?
The US did successfully intercept an ICBM. It doesn't happen all the time though.
Exactly!! This was the 1st try @ an ICBM btw. A great start.
There will be misses along the way. These are not failures, they are tests / learning experiences. Testing all equipment and evaluating / learning from mistakes is how one improves and ultimately perfects any rocket system
Today putting people and goods into space and into the space station is now routine - This evolved from MANY early failures being evaluated, bugs identified and the system being improved to the point of "routine"
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Exactly!! This was the 1st try @ an ICBM btw. A great start.
There will be misses along the way. These are not failures, they are tests / learning experiences. Testing all equipment and evaluating / learning from mistakes is how one improves and ultimately perfects any rocket system
Today putting people and goods into space and into the space station is now routine - This evolved from MANY early failures being evaluated, bugs identified and the system being improved to the point of "routine"
The USA still wants a manned mission to Mars.
I believe that is true
The always negative crap gleaned to demean from certain anti-US / anti Western sites is hilarious.
For them for example, if T walked on water the next headline would be "What a loser. Obviously he can't even swim"
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I believe that is true
The always negative crap gleaned to demean from certain anti-US / anti Western sites is hilarious.
For them for example, if T walked on water the next headline would be "What a loser. Obviously he can't even swim"
lol :laugh:
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The USA still wants a manned mission to Mars.
Won't happen unless they form a coalition with other advanced aeronautical nations to support the journey.
They technical barriers are massive.
The trip takes 9 months, one way. The crew have to be fed and watered, as well as have access to medical services. Likewise, when they arrive, they must land safely, and sustain themselves for the time they are on the planet. Food, water, medicine, heating and cooling, transport, power and ancillary research equipment must be transported with them.
Then they have to get home...
It will require a combination of launches and landings to deliver the necessary support material before the crew arrives. The logisitical challenges alone are beyond our current technology.
We haven't even put a crew on the moon for more than three days.
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The USA still wants a manned mission to Mars.
Won't happen unless they form a coalition with other advanced aeronautical nations to support the journey.
They technical barriers are massive.
The trip takes 9 months, one way. The crew have to be fed and watered, as well as have access to medical services. Likewise, when they arrive, they must land safely, and sustain themselves for the time they are on the planet. Food, water, medicine, heating and cooling, transport, power and ancillary research equipment must be transported with them.
Then they have to get home...
It will require a combination of launches and landings to deliver the necessary support material before the crew arrives. The logisitical challenges alone are beyond our current technology.
We haven't even put a crew on the moon for more than three days.
:ohmy:
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
The USA still wants a manned mission to Mars.
Won't happen unless they form a coalition with other advanced aeronautical nations to support the journey.
They technical barriers are massive.
The trip takes 9 months, one way. The crew have to be fed and watered, as well as have access to medical services. Likewise, when they arrive, they must land safely, and sustain themselves for the time they are on the planet. Food, water, medicine, heating and cooling, transport, power and ancillary research equipment must be transported with them.
Then they have to get home...
It will require a combination of launches and landings to deliver the necessary support material before the crew arrives. The logisitical challenges alone are beyond our current technology.
We haven't even put a crew on the moon for more than three days.
I have to read more about this.