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Title: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: kiebers on June 14, 2017, 10:02:03 AM
Nothing known/released yet about the shooter that is in custody.
QuoteA gunman opened fire Wednesday morning on a baseball practice at a park in Alexandria involving Republican members of Congress, injuring several people including at least one lawmaker, Steve Scalise, the majority whip, according to police and a congressman.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/multiple-people-injured-after-shooting-in-alexandria/2017/06/14/0289c768-50f6-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.9f02cea8908b
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 14, 2017, 12:07:10 PM
He is identified - Sanders campaign worker



NBC NEWS



Shooter Identified As 66 Year Old James T. Hodgkinson, Anti-Trump, Bernie Sanders Supporter Who Wrote, "Time To Destroy Trump And Company"



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Oh, and he was shot dead by 2 very brave injured security forces there for the  the majority whip who was badly injured



Had these 2 not been there and taken the shooter out, it would have been a shooting gallery with many deaths
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 12:34:02 PM
No deaths and one less POS terrorizing the world.  That's a decent outcome to a terrible situation.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Are members of congress and senators given any Secret Service protection?
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 01:41:09 PM
Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

Google is your friend. It already has been mentioned by "mainstream lefty" news outlets. Nothing about the shooting is being hidden.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

Google is your friend. It already has been mentioned by "mainstream lefty" news outlets. Nothing about the shooting is being hidden.


Learn to read, please.



I'm not talking about the shooter being "hidden". :oeudC: whatever the fuck that means...I'm talking about the fact that most liberal mainstream news outlets will most likely downplay the reason for the shooting in favor of some silly agenda splatting smoke screen.



Most of the mainstream media is complicit in ratcheting up the intolerant hate filled rhetoric coming out of the radical progtard, far left. In a way, they are directly responsible for much of the bad behavior perpetrated by the left in this country.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

I already read that on mainstream "left" news this morning (Reuters)



Bernie has also responded:



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Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

Google is your friend. It already has been mentioned by "mainstream lefty" news outlets. Nothing about the shooting is being hidden.


Learn to read, please.



I'm not talking about the shooter being "hidden". :oeudC: whatever the fuck that means...I'm talking about the fact that most liberal mainstream news outlets will most likely downplay the reason for the shooting in favor of some silly agenda splatting smoke screen.



Most of the mainstream media is complicit in ratcheting up the intolerant hate filled rhetoric coming out of the radical progtard, far left. In a way, they are directly responsible for much of the bad behavior perpetrated by the left in this country.

READ! :laugh: "Nothing about the shooting is being hidden".



Google is your friend. Nothing is being downplayed and nothing ever has been. You're imagining things.



So, is the right responsible for Portland and Dylann Roof? I don't believe so. Your own words betray you. You're the one being intolerant, divisive and hateful.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

I already read that on mainstream "left" news this morning (Reuters)



Bernie has also responded:



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Yeah so?....Do you honestly think this is going to get any traction beyond today or possibly tomorrow?



The truth is, the actions of the radical far left in this country have not been properly addressed since before the last election cycle. This latest incident will just emboldened them on to further violent actions with even deadlier consequences.



The authorities have no problem crawling up the ass of crazy rightwing organizations but for some strange reason, violent leftwing nutty snowflakes are coddled and given unlimited number of passes for their uncivilized anti-American behavior. Take the Berkley riots for just one example. Those who perpetrated it and those on the faculty who instigated it, still go largely unpunished. Those that have been punished....their situations has scarcely been covered in the mainstream media...After all why would the media supporters of the so-called Antifa movement want to alert the sheep that they might have to face a consequence for the behavior?



This problem goes squarely back to the last administration....Odumbo was a product of the loony left. He was a certified card carrying member of the radical progs. His affiliation with the reverend Wright and that scumbag murderer Bill Ayers was proof enough of his ideological sympathies. The media downplayed that critical truth and mark my words, they will do it here as well.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 02:56:12 PM
QuoteHere's what accused gunman James Hodgkinson posted on social media before firing at GOP lawmakers



The man suspected of opening fire on Republican congressmen during a baseball practice was an enthusiastic Bernie Sanders supporter on social media and an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump..



James Hodgkinson, of Belleville, Illinois, has been identified as the gunman who shot and wounded GOP whip Steve Scalise, Rep. Roger Williams (R-TX) and three others Wednesday morning at a ball field in Alexandria, Virginia.



The 66-year-old Hodgkinson, who was killed by Capitol police during the incident, owned a home inspection business, but he indicated on Facebook that he ended his involvement with the company at the end of last year.



Hodgkinson maintained two Facebook pages, which he posted to as recently as Monday, and both used images of Sanders as a profile picture or cover image.



He also maintained a Twitter account but tweeted only seven times, most recently in April.



Rep. Ron DeSantis said Hodgkinson appeared to be the same man who asked him before the shooting whether Democrats or Republicans were practicing on the field.



Hodgkinson didn't make any specific social media threats against any of the lawmakers he's accused of shooting, but he liked a political cartoon in 2015 after Scalise gave a speech to a white supremacist group.



His last post, which he made Monday evening, repeatedly described the president as as "assh*le" in reaction to a news story he shared about Cabinet members praising Trump during a meeting.



Hodgkinson followed numerous media outlets, including Raw Story and other left-leaning news sites, and activist groups on Facebook, and he frequently signed online petitions that he then shared on social media.



After the primaries, Hodgkinson appeared to support Green Party candidate Jill Stein and shared anti-Hillary Clinton stories from RT, the state-run Russia media outlet.



//http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/heres-what-accused-gunman-james-hodgkinson-posted-on-social-media-before-firing-at-gop-lawmakers/

Complete with plenty of screen shots, links and sources.



See anything missing, Renee?
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

Google is your friend. It already has been mentioned by "mainstream lefty" news outlets. Nothing about the shooting is being hidden.


Learn to read, please.



I'm not talking about the shooter being "hidden". :oeudC: whatever the fuck that means...I'm talking about the fact that most liberal mainstream news outlets will most likely downplay the reason for the shooting in favor of some silly agenda splatting smoke screen.



Most of the mainstream media is complicit in ratcheting up the intolerant hate filled rhetoric coming out of the radical progtard, far left. In a way, they are directly responsible for much of the bad behavior perpetrated by the left in this country.

READ! :laugh: "Nothing about the shooting is being hidden".



Google is your friend. Nothing is being downplayed and nothing ever has been. You're imagining things.



So, is the right responsible for Portland and Dylann Roof? I don't believe so. Your own words betray you. You're the one being intolerant, divisive and hateful.


Too bad the shooter wasn't part of the Black Lives Matter movement....you would get to call me "racist" as well..... :laugh3:



In that respect you must feel somewhat cheated... :laugh3:
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 03:08:59 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
QuoteHere's what accused gunman James Hodgkinson posted on social media before firing at GOP lawmakers



The man suspected of opening fire on Republican congressmen during a baseball practice was an enthusiastic Bernie Sanders supporter on social media and an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump..



James Hodgkinson, of Belleville, Illinois, has been identified as the gunman who shot and wounded GOP whip Steve Scalise, Rep. Roger Williams (R-TX) and three others Wednesday morning at a ball field in Alexandria, Virginia.



The 66-year-old Hodgkinson, who was killed by Capitol police during the incident, owned a home inspection business, but he indicated on Facebook that he ended his involvement with the company at the end of last year.



Hodgkinson maintained two Facebook pages, which he posted to as recently as Monday, and both used images of Sanders as a profile picture or cover image.



He also maintained a Twitter account but tweeted only seven times, most recently in April.



Rep. Ron DeSantis said Hodgkinson appeared to be the same man who asked him before the shooting whether Democrats or Republicans were practicing on the field.



Hodgkinson didn't make any specific social media threats against any of the lawmakers he's accused of shooting, but he liked a political cartoon in 2015 after Scalise gave a speech to a white supremacist group.



His last post, which he made Monday evening, repeatedly described the president as as "assh*le" in reaction to a news story he shared about Cabinet members praising Trump during a meeting.



Hodgkinson followed numerous media outlets, including Raw Story and other left-leaning news sites, and activist groups on Facebook, and he frequently signed online petitions that he then shared on social media.



After the primaries, Hodgkinson appeared to support Green Party candidate Jill Stein and shared anti-Hillary Clinton stories from RT, the state-run Russia media outlet.



//http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/heres-what-accused-gunman-james-hodgkinson-posted-on-social-media-before-firing-at-gop-lawmakers/

Complete with plenty of screen shots, links and sources.



See anything missing, Renee?


Since when is "rawstory.com" a mainstream media outlet? It's about as mainstream as The Daily Kos.



Again....learn to read and try not to disingenuously twist what you read to fit your argument points. I know that is hard for you...but try.



At least it comes out that "rawstory" does indeed attract the kind of insane liberal that really should be locked up in the booby hatch. I wonder how many more crazies read that leftwing trash?...



BTW, haven't you quoted a few "rawstory" opinion pieces to bolster the little "gotcha" attempts that you are famous for?..... :laugh3:
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 03:21:18 PM
Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
What's really being downplayed are mass shootings themselves:


QuoteAfter 152 Mass Shootings In 2017, It Took An Attack On Congress To Get Our Attention



A gunman opened fire on a congressional baseball practice in Virginia on Wednesday morning, wounding at least five people, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), a Republican staffer and a pair of Capitol Hill police officers. The shooter was reportedly killed during the incident.



Apart from the setting ― a tony neighborhood in Alexandria, Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C.― and the high-profile targets, the episode was sadly not all that remarkable. It was the 153rd mass shooting of the year, in just 165 days, according to a tally by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit organization that tracks shootings across the country. Hours later, the 154th appeared to be unfolding in San Francisco.



Mass shootings have only rarely made national headlines in 2017, but they are so far outpacing the rate seen in recent years.



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Many of these incidents inflict more carnage than Wednesday's shooting. Last week in Orlando, Florida, a gunman entered his former workplace and killed five employees, before turning the weapon on himself. The shooting attracted minimal media coverage at the time.



Gun Violence Archive has verified nearly 7,000 gun deaths so far this year, not including suicides, as well as more than 13,000 injuries. The overwhelming majority of this bloodshed passes without much publicity outside of local news.



Even Alexandria isn't immune to the violence. A shooting at hotel there last month left one dead and two injured. It was the city's first homicide of the year.



The number of mass shootings in the U.S. has become an increasingly heated point of debate over the past few years, as they've become more frequent.



//http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-mass-shooting_us_59414b06e4b003d5948c8364?9q&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 03:38:52 PM
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2017, 03:46:44 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"
QuoteHere's what accused gunman James Hodgkinson posted on social media before firing at GOP lawmakers



The man suspected of opening fire on Republican congressmen during a baseball practice was an enthusiastic Bernie Sanders supporter on social media and an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump..



James Hodgkinson, of Belleville, Illinois, has been identified as the gunman who shot and wounded GOP whip Steve Scalise, Rep. Roger Williams (R-TX) and three others Wednesday morning at a ball field in Alexandria, Virginia.



The 66-year-old Hodgkinson, who was killed by Capitol police during the incident, owned a home inspection business, but he indicated on Facebook that he ended his involvement with the company at the end of last year.



Hodgkinson maintained two Facebook pages, which he posted to as recently as Monday, and both used images of Sanders as a profile picture or cover image.



He also maintained a Twitter account but tweeted only seven times, most recently in April.



Rep. Ron DeSantis said Hodgkinson appeared to be the same man who asked him before the shooting whether Democrats or Republicans were practicing on the field.



Hodgkinson didn't make any specific social media threats against any of the lawmakers he's accused of shooting, but he liked a political cartoon in 2015 after Scalise gave a speech to a white supremacist group.



His last post, which he made Monday evening, repeatedly described the president as as "assh*le" in reaction to a news story he shared about Cabinet members praising Trump during a meeting.



Hodgkinson followed numerous media outlets, including Raw Story and other left-leaning news sites, and activist groups on Facebook, and he frequently signed online petitions that he then shared on social media.



After the primaries, Hodgkinson appeared to support Green Party candidate Jill Stein and shared anti-Hillary Clinton stories from RT, the state-run Russia media outlet.



//http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/heres-what-accused-gunman-james-hodgkinson-posted-on-social-media-before-firing-at-gop-lawmakers/

Complete with plenty of screen shots, links and sources.



See anything missing, Renee?


Since when is "rawstory.com" a mainstream media outlet? It's about as mainstream as The Daily Kos.



Again....learn to read and try not to disingenuously twist what you read to fit your argument points. I know that is hard for you...but try.



At least it comes out that "rawstory" does indeed attract the kind of insane liberal that really should be locked up in the booby hatch. I wonder how many more crazies read that leftwing trash?...



BTW, haven't you quoted a few "rawstory" opinion pieces to bolster the little "gotcha" attempts that you are famous for?..... :laugh3:

Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"Rumor has it the shooter asked his victims on the field if they were Republican or Democrat, once he got his answer, he opened fire.



This may or may not be true. But if it is true, you won't be hearing that out of many of the mainstream lefty news outlets. They will sweep it under the rug just as they have for all the other progtard fascism since Trump has been elected.

I already read that on mainstream "left" news this morning (Reuters)



Bernie has also responded:



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Yeah so?....Do you honestly think this is going to get any traction beyond today or possibly tomorrow?



The truth is, the actions of the radical far left in this country have not been properly addressed since before the last election cycle. This latest incident will just emboldened them on to further violent actions with even deadlier consequences.



The authorities have no problem crawling up the ass of crazy rightwing organizations but for some strange reason, violent leftwing nutty snowflakes are coddled and given unlimited number of passes for their uncivilized anti-American behavior. Take the Berkley riots for just one example. Those who perpetrated it and those on the faculty who instigated it, still go largely unpunished. Those that have been punished....their situations has scarcely been covered in the mainstream media...After all why would the media supporters of the so-called Antifa movement want to alert the sheep that they might have to face a consequence for the behavior?



This problem goes squarely back to the last administration....Odumbo was a product of the loony left. He was a certified card carrying member of the radical progs. His affiliation with the reverend Wright and that scumbag murderer Bill Ayers was proof enough of his ideological sympathies. The media downplayed that critical truth and mark my words, they will do it here as well.
Bernie Sanders supporters were/are an intolerant bunch who think they are above the law. It's his supporters who shut down anyone from speaking university campuses they disagree. They are a bunch of Nazi brown shirts.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.


You can throw the "Huff and Puff Post" and "Think Progress" in that category as well.... :laugh3:
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Thiel"Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.


You can throw the "Huff and Puff Post" and "Think Progress" in that category as well.... :laugh3:

You can add AlterNet, Common Dreams, The Intercept and The Real News to that list. Calling them "alternative" is a polite way of saying they are phony baloney.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 14, 2017, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Thiel"Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.


You can throw the "Huff and Puff Post" and "Think Progress" in that category as well.... :laugh3:

You can add AlterNet, Common Dreams, The Intercept and The Real News to that list. Calling them "alternative" is a polite way of saying they are phony baloney.
And don't forget Soros's so sweet Media Matters
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2017, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Thiel"Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.


You can throw the "Huff and Puff Post" and "Think Progress" in that category as well.... :laugh3:

You can add AlterNet, Common Dreams, The Intercept and The Real News to that list. Calling them "alternative" is a polite way of saying they are phony baloney.
And don't forget Soros's so sweet Media Matters

How could I forget that fine example of journalistic objectivity. ac_toofunny
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Romero on June 14, 2017, 05:21:16 PM
QuoteMultiple members of Congress reported receiving death threats Wednesday after a man opened fire on a team of Republicans practicing for the Congressional Baseball Game, leaving multiple people injured.



Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.) told local reporter Nick Reisman that she received a threatening email after the shooting in Alexandria, Virginia.



"One down, 216 to go," the email's subject line read, according to Reisman's report.



Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) told Mic that other members received similar threats suggesting "Dems are next."



"We've not seen any in our office, but yeah, several [members of Congress] mentioned it today that," Ryan said. "We've got to take it down a notch, or two, or three. Cool it."



Rep. Nanette Barragán (D-Calif.) said House members discussed the threats at an all-House meeting after the shooting and noted that "toning down divisive rhetoric" is necessary, according to a report from BuzzFeed News' Ema O'Connor.



House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi both called for a culture of respect and bipartisanship in speeches on the House floor after the shooting.



"We are united in our shock, we are united in our anguish," Ryan said. "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us."



Pelosi made similar comments.



"Every time I pray, I pray for all of you," Pelosi said, saying she often worries about politicians being targets of violence. "We are called for a purpose to this body. ... This is an occasion that brings us together, not divides us further."



//https://mic.com/articles/179964/democratic-members-of-congress-report-receiving-death-threats-after-alexandria-shooting#.RfU5TB3tF
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
Quote from: "Renee"


Yeah so?....Do you honestly think this is going to get any traction beyond today or possibly tomorrow?

So?  So my point is that "lefty" media has covered the story including the inquiry piece so your assertion that they wouldn't cover it is incorrect.



Does anything gets more than a couple days of air play these days?


QuoteThe truth is, the actions of the radical far left in this country have not been properly addressed since before the last election cycle. This latest incident will just emboldened them on to further violent actions with even deadlier consequences.

I am not seeing a rise in violent left wing radicalism, but political radicalism is seemingly regularly eclipsed by the Islamic boogeyman bullshit or whatever stupid shit has come of out Trump's mouth today.


QuoteThe authorities have no problem crawling up the ass of crazy rightwing organizations but for some strange reason, violent leftwing nutty snowflakes are coddled and given unlimited number of passes for their uncivilized anti-American behavior.

Do you have an evidence of this?


QuoteTake the Berkley riots for just one example. Those who perpetrated it and those on the faculty who instigated it, still go largely unpunished. Those that have been punished....their situations has scarcely been covered in the mainstream media...After all why would the media supporters of the so-called Antifa movement want to alert the sheep that they might have to face a consequence for the behavior?

They were arrested.  Now it's a matter for the courts.  


QuoteThis problem goes squarely back to the last administration....Odumbo was a product of the loony left. He was a certified card carrying member of the radical progs. His affiliation with the reverend Wright and that scumbag murderer Bill Ayers was proof enough of his ideological sympathies. The media downplayed that critical truth and mark my words, they will do it here as well.

The "critical truth" being what exactly?  That leftist exist and can be violent at times?  Is that something that isn't known amoung the general populace?
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
QuoteMultiple members of Congress reported receiving death threats Wednesday after a man opened fire on a team of Republicans practicing for the Congressional Baseball Game, leaving multiple people injured.



Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.) told local reporter Nick Reisman that she received a threatening email after the shooting in Alexandria, Virginia.



"One down, 216 to go," the email's subject line read, according to Reisman's report.



Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) told Mic that other members received similar threats suggesting "Dems are next."



"We've not seen any in our office, but yeah, several [members of Congress] mentioned it today that," Ryan said. "We've got to take it down a notch, or two, or three. Cool it."



Rep. Nanette Barragán (D-Calif.) said House members discussed the threats at an all-House meeting after the shooting and noted that "toning down divisive rhetoric" is necessary, according to a report from BuzzFeed News' Ema O'Connor.



House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi both called for a culture of respect and bipartisanship in speeches on the House floor after the shooting.



"We are united in our shock, we are united in our anguish," Ryan said. "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us."



Pelosi made similar comments.



"Every time I pray, I pray for all of you," Pelosi said, saying she often worries about politicians being targets of violence. "We are called for a purpose to this body. ... This is an occasion that brings us together, not divides us further."



//https://mic.com/articles/179964/democratic-members-of-congress-report-receiving-death-threats-after-alexandria-shooting#.RfU5TB3tF

I think people should be shocked to discover how many death threats public figures receive.  To call this a left or right issue is incredibly disingenuous.



(Note the above ^^ is a general statement to this post and not directed to Romero personally.)
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Thiel"Any adult that quotes rawstory  probably believes in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.


You can throw the "Huff and Puff Post" and "Think Progress" in that category as well.... :laugh3:

You can add AlterNet, Common Dreams, The Intercept and The Real News to that list. Calling them "alternative" is a polite way of saying they are phony baloney.

Trump says mainstream media can't be trusted.



You CON types seem to want it both ways.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.


This is something you Canadians don't get nor will you ever get.



Unlike your "Charter of Rights", the US Constitution grants the US citizenry certain "inalienable" rights....one of which is the right to self-defense. The 2ND Amendment speaks directly to that right as was intended as such by the framers of the US Constitution....Infringing upon, by "Politicising" the people's right to bear arms is an illegal  act. Hence the fact that the people's right to bear arm has been affirmed and up held by the the SCOTUS in DC v Heller and by extension, McDonald v The City of Chicago.



By what is written in the US Constitution and according to the SCOTUS, government authority in the US should not be allowed to set policy regarding gun control...so your point of argument has no validity. In other words, until such time that the SCOTUS reverses it's decision in DC v Heller.....discussion closed.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Thiel on June 14, 2017, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.


This is something you Canadians don't get nor will you ever get.



Unlike your "Charter of Rights", the US Constitution grants the US citizenry certain "inalienable" rights....one of which is the right to self-defense. The 2ND Amendment speaks directly to that right as was intended as such by the framers of the US Constitution....Infringing upon, by "Politicising" the people's right to bear arms is an illegal  act. Hence the fact that the people's right to bear arm has been affirmed and up held by the the SCOTUS in DC v Heller and by extension, McDonald v The City of Chicago.



By what is written in the US Constitution and according to the SCOTUS, government authority in the US should not be allowed to set policy regarding gun control...so your point of argument has no validity. In other words, discussion closed.

I understand the American constitution is different than our Charter. But, more countries have used the Canadian model than our American counterpart since it was enacted thirty five years ago.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.


This is something you Canadians don't get nor will you ever get.



Unlike your "Charter of Rights", the US Constitution grants the US citizenry certain "inalienable" rights....one of which is the right to self-defense. The 2ND Amendment speaks directly to that right as was intended as such by the framers of the US Constitution....Infringing upon, by "Politicising" the people's right to bear arms is an illegal  act. Hence the fact that the people's right to bear arm has been affirmed and up held by the the SCOTUS in DC v Heller and by extension, McDonald v The City of Chicago.



By what is written in the US Constitution and according to the SCOTUS, government authority in the US should not be allowed to set policy regarding gun control...so your point of argument has no validity. In other words, until such time that the SCOTUS reverses it's decision in DC v Heller.....discussion closed.

I don't struggle with your 2nd Amendment rights.  I think it's stupid but it's not beyond my comprehension.



I also can't and won't pretend gun control isn't a political issue in the US.  Inalienable right or not, you do have restrictions on bearing arms.  For some reason you Americans have a hard time acknowledging existing limits.



My point stands that gun control is a political issue. Even if you want to look at it from the judicial branch of the government aka the SCOTUS, you are still in the political sphere as justices are politically appointed.



I'm not sure what exactly what I've said that you feel you invalidated but I'm not seeing it.



Sorry.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.


This is something you Canadians don't get nor will you ever get.



Unlike your "Charter of Rights", the US Constitution grants the US citizenry certain "inalienable" rights....one of which is the right to self-defense. The 2ND Amendment speaks directly to that right as was intended as such by the framers of the US Constitution....Infringing upon, by "Politicising" the people's right to bear arms is an illegal  act. Hence the fact that the people's right to bear arm has been affirmed and up held by the the SCOTUS in DC v Heller and by extension, McDonald v The City of Chicago.



By what is written in the US Constitution and according to the SCOTUS, government authority in the US should not be allowed to set policy regarding gun control...so your point of argument has no validity. In other words, discussion closed.

I understand the American constitution is different than our Charter. But, more countries have used the Canadian model than our American counterpart since it was enacted thirty five years ago.

I think the Charter is an excellent constitutional document.  It's designed to allow society to evolve without these "inalienable" rights.  No rights are inalienable in Canada as long as it can be justified in a free and democratic society.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Blurt on June 14, 2017, 07:08:08 PM
Inalienable rights are never inalienable. Social mores change.



The only possible Author of anything possibly "inalienable" is God.



And He doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"Inalienable rights are never inalienable. Social mores change.



The only possible Author of anything possibly "inalienable" is God.



And He doesn't exist.

We Canadians don't seem to struggle with that fact like the Americans do and I give how they've sold their constitution as the driver of that.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Romero"Raw Story is just an example. I've already said you could easily Google to find the "lefty" mainstream media isn't downplaying anything.



So, is the right-wing media responsible for right-wing shooters? I don't believe so. What a shame that you need to politicize this.


We'll look at this, the hypocrite speaks again.....no surprise here.



How many shootings have you tried to politicise by screaming hysterically about guns and the NRA?...if I say all of them, I wouldn't be too far from 100% correct.



How many times have your tried to politicise the abortion issue or any woman's rights issue mentioned on these forums....Again, about 100% of them.



Please do not lecture me about politicising hot button issues or unfortunate tragedies....You've been roundly smacked for doing it in the past too many times to even count.



Once again you have no shame showing off what a little weasel you are.

When government decides policy, you cannot remove politics from issues like gun control, abortion, etc.  When a politician gets shot, you are damn right that it's political.


This is something you Canadians don't get nor will you ever get.



Unlike your "Charter of Rights", the US Constitution grants the US citizenry certain "inalienable" rights....one of which is the right to self-defense. The 2ND Amendment speaks directly to that right as was intended as such by the framers of the US Constitution....Infringing upon, by "Politicising" the people's right to bear arms is an illegal  act. Hence the fact that the people's right to bear arm has been affirmed and up held by the the SCOTUS in DC v Heller and by extension, McDonald v The City of Chicago.



By what is written in the US Constitution and according to the SCOTUS, government authority in the US should not be allowed to set policy regarding gun control...so your point of argument has no validity. In other words, discussion closed.

I understand the American constitution is different than our Charter. But, more countries have used the Canadian model than our American counterpart since it was enacted thirty five years ago.

I think the Charter is an excellent constitutional document.  It's designed to allow society to evolve without these "inalienable" rights.  No rights are inalienable in Canada as long as it can be justified in a free and democratic society.


Justified by who? Your government can abrogate your rights at any time, using whatever justification they please.



BTW, your last statement is rather disconcerting. What you stated is that you have no natural rights in Canada (inalienable)...every right you have has been granted by your government so long as it is justifiable. Your right to life and liberty is a gift not because you are human but because your government at this time is benevolent. Not a good position to be in.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Bricktop on June 14, 2017, 07:15:37 PM
Quote from: "RW"
I am not seeing a rise in violent left wing radicalism, but political radicalism is seemingly regularly eclipsed by the Islamic boogeyman bullshit or whatever stupid shit has come of out Trump's mouth today.


 :roll:



TDS is a terrible affliction.



Amongst other symptoms, it apparently causes blindness.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"Inalienable rights are never inalienable. Social mores change.



The only possible Author of anything possibly "inalienable" is God.



And He doesn't exist.


We'll then basic human rights which by your leftwing philosophy are supposed to be "inalienable" don't exist.



If that is the case then any time someone bitches about the infringement of human rights they are merely stating opinion base on an ethnocentric point of view.



BTW, to date no one has been able to prove or disprove the existence of God so any take on the issue is up for grabs.....Unless you want to try and push that typical lefty horseshit that states "my opinion is more valid than yours because I'm more enlightened".... :laugh3:



Hopefully you don't want to play that card with me.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Blurt"Inalienable rights are never inalienable. Social mores change.



The only possible Author of anything possibly "inalienable" is God.



And He doesn't exist.


We'll then basic human rights which by your leftwing philosophy are supposed to be "inalienable" don't exist.



If that is the case then any time someone bitches about the infringement of human rights they are merely stating opinion base on an ethnocentric point of view.

Of course they aren't inalienable.  If you are incarcerated, you lose many of your basic human rights.  That would count as a justifiable restriction.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "RW"
I am not seeing a rise in violent left wing radicalism, but political radicalism is seemingly regularly eclipsed by the Islamic boogeyman bullshit or whatever stupid shit has come of out Trump's mouth today.


 :roll:



TDS is a terrible affliction.



Amongst other symptoms, it apparently causes blindness.

The media loves running with every single stupid thing that lying sack of shit says.  You think some Senator getting shot by some left wing nutjob is going to stop that?



Nope.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 14, 2017, 07:25:12 PM
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Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 14, 2017, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: "Renee"Justified by who? Your government can abrogate your rights at any time, using whatever justification they please.



BTW, your last statement is rather disconcerting. What you stated is that you have no natural rights in Canada (inalienable)...every right you have has been granted by your government so long as it is justifiable. Your right to life and liberty is a gift not because you are human but because your government at this time is benevolent. Not a good position to be in.

We have rights in Canada.  We have the same rights as you for the most part, but our first Charter right is to have our rights limited.  The reason being is sometimes our rights and freedoms can infringe on the rights and freedoms of others.  For example, we have the right to freedom of speech but we aren't allowed to utter threats, coerce, slander, lie under oath, incite hatred and violence, conspire to commit crime, etc.  Laws against these things are all limits to freedom of speech that are justified in a free society.  Again, no different than in the US.



Justification of limits is what the courts do.  Canadian courts do it in the application of government made laws, as do American courts with American government made laws.  The only difference between our countries being in this regard is the legal recognition of these limits in our Charter.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2017, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: "cc"He is identified - Sanders campaign worker



NBC NEWS



Shooter Identified As 66 Year Old James T. Hodgkinson, Anti-Trump, Bernie Sanders Supporter Who Wrote, "Time To Destroy Trump And Company"



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Oh, and he was shot dead by 2 very brave injured security forces there for the  the majority whip who was badly injured



Had these 2 not been there and taken the shooter out, it would have been a shooting gallery with many deaths

No fucking surprise. Sanders supporters are fucking crazy.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"Nothing known/released yet about the shooter that is in custody.
QuoteA gunman opened fire Wednesday morning on a baseball practice at a park in Alexandria involving Republican members of Congress, injuring several people including at least one lawmaker, Steve Scalise, the majority whip, according to police and a congressman.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/multiple-people-injured-after-shooting-in-alexandria/2017/06/14/0289c768-50f6-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.9f02cea8908b

Three words; Trump derangement syndrome.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2017, 12:18:09 PM
Quote from: "Little Ms. Sunshine"
Quote from: "cc"He is identified - Sanders campaign worker



NBC NEWS



Shooter Identified As 66 Year Old James T. Hodgkinson, Anti-Trump, Bernie Sanders Supporter Who Wrote, "Time To Destroy Trump And Company"



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Oh, and he was shot dead by 2 very brave injured security forces there for the  the majority whip who was badly injured



Had these 2 not been there and taken the shooter out, it would have been a shooting gallery with many deaths

No fucking surprise. Sanders supporters are fucking crazy.


Sad to say....most of them are.



Almost every fucken one of them I've run across are either these gimme, gimme, you owe us a living, sissy liberals or a SJW, flaming, asshole.



If you ask me, they should all be on a "watched" list, right there with the alt-right loons. I think a lot of today's paranoia regarding extremism is grossly misplaced. Given the recent resurgence of nutty liberal violence, it's becoming a lot more likely to encounter one of the left's finest examples of the unhinged than it is coming in contact with an exploding Muslim.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
The problem with Sanders supporters extremism is the press doesn't give it a lot of coverage.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 12:24:15 PM
As to media - After watching progress of attacks by a certain ideology take usually days to identify the perps publicly,



I failed to note on THIS one: Race and Name were out at hyperspeed



 and how quickly race became part of this story? What made THIS case special?



Less than an hour after the shooting, certain things about the gunman were already known.



He was 'middle-aged and white'.



And name was out soon after



just sayin
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: "cc"As to media - After watching progress of attacks by a certain ideology take usually days to identify the perps publicly,



I failed to note on THIS one: Race and Name were out at hyperspeed



 and how quickly race became part of this story? What made THIS case special?



Less than an hour after the shooting, certain things about the gunman were already known.



He was 'middle-aged and white'.



And name was out soon after



just sayin

Hmmm ac_umm
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 15, 2017, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Little Ms. Sunshine"
Quote from: "cc"He is identified - Sanders campaign worker



NBC NEWS



Shooter Identified As 66 Year Old James T. Hodgkinson, Anti-Trump, Bernie Sanders Supporter Who Wrote, "Time To Destroy Trump And Company"



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Oh, and he was shot dead by 2 very brave injured security forces there for the  the majority whip who was badly injured



Had these 2 not been there and taken the shooter out, it would have been a shooting gallery with many deaths

No fucking surprise. Sanders supporters are fucking crazy.


Sad to say....most of them are.



Almost every fucken one of them I've run across are either these gimme, gimme, you owe us a living, sissy liberals or a SJW, flaming, asshole.



If you ask me, they should all be on a "watched" list, right there with the alt-right loons. I think a lot of today's paranoia regarding extremism is grossly misplaced. Given the recent resurgence of nutty liberal violence, it's becoming a lot more likely to encounter one of the left's finest examples of the unhinged than it is coming in contact with an exploding Muslim.


Islam Derangement Syndrome says otherwise.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2017, 01:23:07 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"The problem with Sanders supporters extremism is the press doesn't give it a lot of coverage.


Unless it's the kind of in your face antics like this latest loony circus act. Then it front page for an hour or two.



After that it's back to banging on about Trumps latest jaw dropping gasification or some other mind numbing, dimwitted, pretend, shit.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 01:39:36 PM
As to the event, I initially thought this guy was a total incompetent ... getting off close to 100 shots and hitting few people



Now it comes out that initially he was smart enough to place those shots in a such a manner to to "herd" people to the dugout / home plate area area successfully  ... whereupon obviously he would then easily slaughter MANY



Only the 2 Capital Police, no doubt with only short guns against his long gun,  saved this diabolical person's well designed & intended  mass slaughter. Well & bravely done officers!!!!!
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Renee on June 15, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: "cc"As to the event, I initially thought this guy was a total idiot ... getting off close to 100 shots and hitting few people



Now it comes out that initially he was smart enough to place those shots in a such a manner to to "herd" people to the dugout / home plate area area successfully  ... whereupon obviously he would then easily slaughter MANY


So he was trying to corner his pray in the cage....I see.



That's how Mel shot his wif's cat.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 01:56:59 PM
:laugh:
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 15, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "cc"As to media - After watching progress of attacks by a certain ideology take usually days to identify the perps publicly,



I failed to note on THIS one: Race and Name were out at hyperspeed



 and how quickly race became part of this story? What made THIS case special?



Less than an hour after the shooting, certain things about the gunman were already known.



He was 'middle-aged and white'.



And name was out soon after



just sayin

It's so IDS suffers like you don't whip yourselves into a frenzy and break out your muzzie pitchforks and torches.



"It's okay America.  It was just a crazy leftie, not ISIS."


You know what I've noticed...all these so called IDS sufferers on this forum are all Canadian or some other none US type of creature.



Same goes for those with TDS.... ac_umm



It's okay....I still tolerate you guys. Why,...I don't know,..

.. kind hearted I guess.

Most people on this forum are Canadians and most Americans on this board are righties.



Pay more attention to CBT.  Those guys are far from Canadian or right wing.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 03:16:22 PM
So, are members of congress and senators given Secret Service protection?
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
No. Only certain high positions ... the only one that had them 3rd ranked in Congress



If they all had guards this guy would have been dropped in a heartbeat



That said, with hate / temperature / egging on of violence/ media support of it all  that exists today, many more will likely soon need  protection



Even local town halls, formerly a great and civil feature of US democracy, are getting inundated with haters charging in and disrupting  often in an intimidating manner
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 03:28:38 PM
I try REALLY hard to allow that you are waaaay too close to the beast to be objective



 to the extreme of introducing it into a thread that has zero to do with it



My tongue is getting quite sore from biting it, but I'll continue and survive that
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: "cc"No. Only certain high positions ... the only one that had them 3rd ranked in Congress



If they all had guards this guy would have been dropped in a heartbeat



That said, with hate / temperature / egging on of violence/ media support of it all  that exists today, many more will likely soon need  protection



Even local town halls, formerly a great and civil feature of US democracy, are getting inundated with haters charging in and disrupting  often in an intimidating manner

So, only Paul Ryan gets Secret Service protection.
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: RW on June 15, 2017, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: "cc"I try REALLY hard to allow that you are too close to the beast to be objective ... to the extreme of introducing it into a thread that has zero to do with it

I'm not close to the beast in the least.  Sure I have Muslim friends but I don't need Muslim friends to know you are hemorrhaging them because of your obsession.  You basically sit in a subforum talking to yourself while the others who know fuck all about Islam sound off and those sympathetic to tragedy say "Oh no!  Not another one!"
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 03:33:16 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"No. Only certain high positions ... the only one that had them 3rd ranked in Congress



If they all had guards this guy would have been dropped in a heartbeat



That said, with hate / temperature / egging on of violence/ media support of it all  that exists today, many more will likely soon need  protection



Even local town halls, formerly a great and civil feature of US democracy, are getting inundated with haters charging in and disrupting  often in an intimidating manner

So, only Paul Ryan gets Secret Service protection.

no Fash. some "high ranks" do  .... the guy almost killed was # 3 rank and had 2 guards at the park who saved a mass slaughter



I'm not sure as to how many protection is given, but I'm guessin more will be getting it in the future
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: "cc"no Fash. some "high ranks" do  .... the guy almost killed was # 3 and had 2 guards at the park who saved a mass slaughter



I'm not sure to how many protection is given, but I'm guessin more will be getting it in the future

I thought you meant third from the president, which is Paul Ryan.

 ac_blush
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: cc on June 15, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
You are correct in that statement



Sorry - I meant 3rd ranking "Congressman" .. he is majority party whip I believe



 Speaker is # 1, prolly minority leader # 2 (guessing on that one)
Title: Re: Lawmaker Scalise wounded, one person in custody
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2017, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: "cc"You are correct in that statement



Sorry - I meant 3rd ranking "Congressman" .. he is majority party whip I believe



 Speaker is # 1, prolly minority leader # 2 (guessing on that one)

I see and thank you cc.
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