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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Romero on June 22, 2017, 02:13:56 PM

Title: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Romero on June 22, 2017, 02:13:56 PM
QuoteA Canadian soldier in Iraq has killed an ISIS militant from more than two miles away, shattering the world record for a confirmed sniper kill in military history.



According to Toronto's Globe and Mail newspaper, the gun specialist from the elite Joint Task Force 2 achieved the feat with a shot from a high-rise during an operation within the past 30 days.



"The shot in question actually disrupted a Daesh [Islamic State] attack on Iraqi security forces," a military source — who requested anonymity because the unit's operations are classified — told the paper. "Instead of dropping a bomb that could potentially kill civilians in the area, it is a very precise application of force and because it was so far way, the bad guys didn't have a clue what was happening."



The 3,450-meter shot, which took about 10 seconds to reach its target, was independently verified by a video camera and other data, the source said.



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//https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/22/report-canadian-sniper-kills-isis-fighter-2-miles-away/418889001/

Forget ordering new jet fighters. Just send in our snipers!
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
What are Canadian soldiers doing in Iraq?
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Romero on June 22, 2017, 02:35:26 PM
QuoteOperation IMPACT is the Canadian Armed Forces' (CAF) support to the Global Coalition against Daesh in Iraq and Syria. Under this mission, the CAF:



conducts air operations

provides training and assistance to the Iraqi security forces

helps regional forces build their capacity

provides medical services to Coalition forces

supports the Coalition with highly-skilled CAF members



Joint Task Force-Iraq is responsible for:



national command and control of Operation IMPACT personnel and operations

coordinating operations with the Coalition headquarters



The CAF operates an all-source intelligence centre as part of Joint Task Force-Iraq. It gathers information from a variety of sources. It is responsible for collecting, synthesizing, and analyzing this information.



This intelligence is then used for operational planning. It ultimately helps to:



protect Coalition forces

determine how to conduct Coalition operations



CAF members serve in key positions in Coalition headquarters around the Middle East. They have high-demand skills in planning and carrying out military operations.  These skills support and enable the Coalition and Iraqi security forces. The CAF members are experts in areas such as:



intelligence operations

targeting

command and control



JTF-I Detachment Erbil is made up of some 30 CAF members. It is known as Camp Érable. It is host to and directly supports:



the Tactical Aviation Detachment

the Canadian-led Coalition Role 2 medical facility



The CAF commands a Role 2 medical facility in northern Iraq. It has a mandate to provide lifesaving medical and surgical care to Coalition forces. Approximately 50 CAF members serve at this facility in roles that include:



senior leadership

physicians

nurses

medical technicians

laboratory and diagnostic imaging technicians

a dental team

support staff

Medical facility capabilities include:



resuscitation

damage control surgery

intensive care support

dental care

diagnostic imaging

a medical lab



The CAF also provides medical equipment and supplies for the facility.



//http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations-abroad-current/op-impact.page

I approve of Operation IMPACT. It's a very focused way of fighting terrorism.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
I think a large number of people in this country are unaware of this mission.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2017, 05:43:36 PM
We should not spend one taxpayer dollar nor put one Canadian soldier's life in jeopardy for that armpit of the world.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Bricktop on June 22, 2017, 07:49:01 PM
I think its well understood that in order to eliminate ISIS's influence globally, the nest has to be destroyed.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2017, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"I think its well understood that in order to eliminate ISIS's influence globally, the nest has to be destroyed.

Destroying ISIS will do nothing to stop the cancer of Islam from spreading. The weekly jihadi attacks will not end. Islam is much bigger than ISIS.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: cc on June 23, 2017, 01:06:38 AM
I would say that you are both right. I.S. needs killin in Syria / Iraq ..... but that's not the end of it

it has spread many places and will continue to be a problem



plus other groups and individuals of course will continue to do their thing ... that's how islam was planned to function initially .. that's how it operates today .. and of course tomorrow



As to OP, what a shot ... since release of info it has been front and centre on most networks
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Bricktop on June 23, 2017, 01:52:15 AM
ICB.



A shot over that distance is virtually impossible.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2017, 02:13:37 AM
Quote from: "cc"I would say that you are both right. I.S. needs killin in Syria / Iraq ..... but that's not the end of it

it has spread many places and will continue to be a problem



plus other groups and individuals of course will continue to do their thing ... that's how islam was planned to function initially .. that's how it operates today .. and of course tomorrow



As to OP, what a shot ... since release of info it has been front and centre on most networks

I support smashing IS in Syria and Iraq too. But, like you said that is not the end of it. Not even close.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Renee on June 23, 2017, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"ICB.



A shot over that distance is virtually impossible.


I question the distance as well.



I find it odd that all the other record inducing shots were between 2,500 and 2,750  yards...this one jumps out to over 3,600 yards . ac_unsure ....something doesn't smell right.



I'm mean if you are going to go ahead and make shit up....at least make it believable.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: kiebers on June 23, 2017, 07:51:40 AM
Typical of they way reporting is done now, they give the distance in feet for the biggest number. But 3,450 meters is indeed an awfully long shot.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2017, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"Typical of they way reporting is done now, they give the distance in feet for the biggest number. But 3,450 meters is indeed an awfully long shot.

I believe the numbers in the op are in feet.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Renee on June 23, 2017, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"Typical of they way reporting is done now, they give the distance in feet for the biggest number. But 3,450 meters is indeed an awfully long shot.

I believe the numbers in the op are in feet.


That's where it gets confusing and misleading...When using imperial units, shooting range distances are always measured in yards....not feet.



It's odd that something like this would be expressed in feet. Even the American military uses metric measurements for range distances and has been doing so since the Vietnam era.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2017, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"Typical of they way reporting is done now, they give the distance in feet for the biggest number. But 3,450 meters is indeed an awfully long shot.

I believe the numbers in the op are in feet.


That's where it gets confusing and misleading...When using imperial units, shooting range distances are always measured in yards....not feet.



It's odd that something like this would be expressed in feet. Even the American military uses metric measurements for range distances and has been doing so since the Vietnam era.

In that case, it is strange.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Romero on June 23, 2017, 01:16:30 PM
Quote from: "Renee"That's where it gets confusing and misleading...When using imperial units, shooting range distances are always measured in yards....not feet.



It's odd that something like this would be expressed in feet. Even the American military uses metric measurements for range distances and has been doing so since the Vietnam era.

Obviously an American media outlet would convert it to imperial. You've never seen that before? Happens all the time. Just like how a Canadian media outlet would convert imperial to metric.



It happened. Can't just make that up. The effective range of the TAC-50 is indeed 3,450m/3,770 yd.


QuoteA Canadian sniper set what appears to be a record, picking off an ISIS fighter from some 2.2 miles away, and disrupting a potentially deadly operation by the terror group in Iraq.



Shooting experts say the fatal shot at a world-record distance of 11,316 feet underscores how stunningly sophisticated military snipers are becoming.



//http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/22/canadian-sniper-sets-world-record-with-2-1-mile-pickoff-isis-fighter.html

Experts aren't disputing it.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Renee on June 23, 2017, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"That's where it gets confusing and misleading...When using imperial units, shooting range distances are always measured in yards....not feet.



It's odd that something like this would be expressed in feet. Even the American military uses metric measurements for range distances and has been doing so since the Vietnam era.

Obviously an American media outlet would convert it to imperial. You've never seen that before? Happens all the time. Just like how a Canadian media outlet would convert imperial to metric.



It happened. Can't just make that up. The effective range of the TAC-50 is indeed 3,450m/3,770 yd.


QuoteA Canadian sniper set what appears to be a record, picking off an ISIS fighter from some 2.2 miles away, and disrupting a potentially deadly operation by the terror group in Iraq.



Shooting experts say the fatal shot at a world-record distance of 11,316 feet underscores how stunningly sophisticated military snipers are becoming.



//http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/22/canadian-sniper-sets-world-record-with-2-1-mile-pickoff-isis-fighter.html

Experts aren't disputing it.


I've never seen range distances expressed in "feet". It's always yards or meters.



I'm pretty sure I've been on more ranges private or military (Fort Dix) than you so you can shove your condescending bullshit, you snippy little shit.



I guess it can be chalked up to the ignorance and penchant for the sensational that most journalists have regarding firearms and shooting.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2017, 03:42:03 PM
QuoteI'm pretty sure I've been on more ranges private or military (Fort Dix) than you

No doubt you have.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Romero on June 23, 2017, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: "Renee"I've never seen range distances expressed in "feet". It's always yards or meters.

QuoteAmmoLand Shooting Sports News



April 3, 2014



British Sniper Sets Longest Sniper Shot Record – 8,120 Feet



Here is something that has been in the news recently and is worth bringing up again. In 2009 a British Army soldier by the name of Corporal Craig Harrison, of the Household Cavalry, set a new record for the longest shot in combat. Twice. Cpl. Harrison fired two shots at Taliban machine gunners in Afghanistan.



They were confirmed via GPS to be 8,120 feet from Cpl. Harrison's position.



That is 1.54 miles. More than a mile and a half. To make it even more astounding, the range was almost 3,000 feet beyond what is considered the effective range of the weapon. At that range the bullet takes around 3 seconds to reach the target.



The previous record was set in 2002 for a sniper kill at 7,972 ft. That shot was made by Canadian Corporal Rob Furlong, of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, who was using a .50BMG McMillan TAC-50 rifle.



//https://www.ammoland.com/2014/04/british-sniper-sets-new-long-distance-kill-shot-record-8120-feet/#axzz4kr8YcBSK

:001_rolleyes:



It's pretty odd that you're trying to argue a unit of measure isn't supposed to be used for measuring distance. :laugh:
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: cc on June 23, 2017, 04:21:40 PM
You really must stop using such sites as Fox and Ammoland (above)



Your well established prog "loaded"  lame news reputation is in serious jeopardy
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: kiebers on June 23, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
Typically, when speaking of firearms and their effective ranges, yards and meters are used in the shooting community. I have been shooting now for almost 60 years and I have never spoke of, or heard of, feet being used as measurement in shooting distances. Those that don't shoot or those that want the most bang for their buck in a headline or story may opt to use the term "feet" so it sounds more dramatic, a tactic you are very familiar with.

It was a helluva shot to be sure.
Title: Re: Canadian Sniper Shatters Record For Longest Kill
Post by: Bricktop on June 23, 2017, 07:36:02 PM
The bullet would take around 10 seconds to reach its target, which presumably remains ABSOLUTELY stationary during that time.



ICB.