http://kdvr.com/2017/06/22/motorcyclist-kicks-car-in-road-rage-incident-triggers-chain-reaction-crash/
They are apparently looking for the BIKER for HIT AND RUN!!!
Good luck with that.
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They are apparently looking for the BIKER for HIT AND RUN!!!
Good luck with that.
True.
The car driver got what he deserved. In fact, he should be charged with attempted murder, actually, swerving into the bike like that.
Bikers are always at fault, though, just like truckers... Even though the general public is lucky at the amount of restraint most of us show... I am both, and it's rare that not a day goes by where I don't think about putting my fist right through your fucking window, and pulling you out by your hair.
As Bricktop said... Good luck finding the bike, and even if you do, good luck proving who was riding it! Sometimes it's just better to leave the scene, and revel silently in your own personal satisfaction knowing this!
That would be so frightening.
Somebody shit in the car driver's Cheerios.
Even if they do locate the biker, he was not the cause of the accident, nor was he involved.
There was no hit run.
The accident was caused by the stupidity of the car driver. Getting a love tap that causes NO damage from a biker is no justification for driving like a lunatic.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
There was no hit run.
The accident was caused by the stupidity of the car driver. Getting a love tap that causes NO damage from a biker is no justification for driving like a lunatic.
And putting a lot of lives at risk besides his own.
From my observation, the driver of the car panicked and jammed the foot on the accelerator. The impact against the guard rail on the left was indicative of a car under acceleration, not braking.
I'm guessing female.
And that is an educated guess.
Nope it was male.
Then it was a dumb male.
Asian, perhaps?
Quote from: "Bricktop"
I somewhat disagree...
When the car turned abruptly to push the bike away, and then abruptly back again, it induced itself into a skid... Once in a skid like that, it would be very difficult to recover, no matter if foot on the brake, or accelerator...
Except it ACCELERATED over the median strip into oncoming traffic. Up to that point they were doing what, 50mph??
Its all on the moronic car driver.
Both the Biker and the driver of the car should be charged since they crashed into a Chevy Avalanche with a family in it and flipped it over on the HWY their is fault on bothsides esp if the bikker ran from the scene makes it look even worse optically to the public so the car driver might come out looking better in this case.
So both should be looking at Criminal negligence and charged with Manslaughter, Reckless Driving ednagering the public if anybody died from that.
Plus it was caught on Camera they proably already know who the suspect is by now and making a solid case.
Unlawful act is when a person commits a crime that unintentionally results in the death of another person.
Criminal negligence is when the homicide was the result of an act that showed wanton or reckless disregard for the lives of others
I actually prefer this one....two assholes doing their thing in some 3rd world shit hole.
Typical..... :laugh3:
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Typical..... :laugh3:
Some people like living dangerously, but I'm not one of them.
A handful of pachinko balls would have been better than kicking a car.
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So both should be looking at Criminal negligence and charged with Manslaughter, Reckless Driving ednagering the public if anybody died from that.
Plus it was caught on Camera they proably already know who the suspect is by now and making a solid case.
Unlawful act is when a person commits a crime that unintentionally results in the death of another person.
Criminal negligence is when the homicide was the result of an act that showed wanton or reckless disregard for the lives of others
Sorry, but that won't fly.
Any judiciary would examine the incident from the perspective of cause and effect.
The action of kicking the side of a car does not in itself precipitate the car veering sharply to the left, slamming into the guard rail on one side of the road then careering into a car on the OPPOSITE side of the road.
No court will accept the prospect that the biker
(a) deliberately caused and intended the incident to unfold as it did, or
(b) acted with reckless negligence when the outcome could be reasonably foreseen.
If neither of those two arguments can be sustained...and they can't...the biker cannot be held accountable for the mayhem that followed.
Of course, it may be argued that the actions of the biker PRECIPITATED the eventual chaos, but that action was too far removed from the driver's response. For those who not ridden a motorcycle, kicking car alongside you with enough force to actual damage the vehicle is practically impossible, in accordance with Newton's Law. The biker's kick caused no damage, therefore there was no legal collision. No damage, no injury = no accident.
I suppose at most kicking at a car would be punishable by a mischief charge, but again if there is no damage, that may not fly...
No damage, no foul.
Perhaps a driving without due care (or similar dependent on country) would stick.
Even a minor behavioural offence.
But I can see no liability for the accidents that followed.
I'm trying to think of our laws, and what they could nail him with...
Careless Driving, Driving without due care and attention, Dangerous Driving, and even Criminal Negligence...
Some are Motor Vehicle Act fines, others are Canadian Criminal Code violations.
Criminal Code of Canada:
(a) a motor vehicle in a manner that is dangerous to the public, having regard to all the circumstances, including the nature, condition and use of the place at which the motor vehicle is being operated and the amount of traffic that at the time is or might reasonably be expected to be at that place;
The biker also left the scene of an accident which is also an offense.
Although then again, the police can charge you with whatever they want...
Only a judge can make the final determination, based on case law, provided the individual pleads not guilty.
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Only a judge can make the final determination, based on case law, provided the individual pleads not guilty.
No actually, they can't.
Quote from: "RW"
Yeah, they pretty much can here.
Crown Counsel is the one that would decide whether or not to proceed.
And then finally the Judge decides...
Crown Counsel decides whether or not charges will be laid.
Quote from: "RW"
No.
Police first charge you.
Then later Crown Counsel decides whether or not to proceed.
Years ago the cops tried to charge me with careless use of a firearm.
I told the cops I wasn't careless. They charged me nonetheless.
Crown reviewed the evidence on court day, and it was tossed out before it even reached the Judge.
Cops think they know everything...
The moral of
The police presence was large. And I mean really fucking large! I think they even deployed their chopper!
Just another day in the life of the Ace-Man!
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Quote from: "RW"
No.
Police first charge you.
Then later Crown Counsel decides whether or not to proceed.
No....the police arrest you. Charges are laid by Crown Counsel. The police are called by Crown to swear the information in from of a judge by stating they have the necessary grounds to support the charge.
If the police detain you wrongfully, it's wrongful arrest.
Haven't you got a forum to run?
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Look bitch, if I have to repeat myself one more fucking time, I'm not going to be so nice.
Have you ever even seen the inside of a courtroom? I have, multiple times.
THE FUCKING POLICE CHARGE YOU WITH THE CRIME.
It is then, at a later date, up to Crown Counsel to decide whether or not to proceed with the charges at trial.
Cops, judges and the system are all fucked. No one actually knows what they are doing.
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
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Look bitch, if I have to repeat myself one more fucking time, I'm not going to be so nice.
Have you ever even seen the inside of a courtroom? I have, multiple times.
THE FUCKING POLICE CHARGE YOU WITH THE CRIME.
It is then, at a later date, up to Crown Counsel to decide whether or not to proceed with the charges at trial.
Crown lays charges you dumbshit potato face. The police do not.
http://www.victimsinfo.ca/en/investigation-to-charge/laying-of-charges
You obviously have no clue how our justice system works, RW.
Don't forget who you are arguing with, bitch... I have seen the inside of a courtroom a few times more than I'd like to admit.
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
I took law post sec dick weed. My brother is a lawyer. I used to edit his law papers. I've been to more than one of his cases. Eat shit.
Now once again...
Crown lays the charges. The police recommend charges to the Crown. They relay Crown's decision on charges to the arrested person.
Read it from .gov if you don't believe me.
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/understanding-criminal-justice/how-works/laying-charges
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
You're a fucking half wit who has a mouth bigger than his brain.
Try harder pisser.
Yet you feel the need to engage him in debate at every opportunity.
Birds of a feather...
[size=200]THE FUCKING POLICE CHARGE YOU AT TIME OF OFFENSE, YOU DUMB BITCH!
LATER CROWN DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT TO PROCEED WITH CHARGES AT TRIAL!
IS THIS FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH, AND EASY ENOUGH, FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND NOW?[/size]
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Birds of a feather...
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Birds of a feather...
Fuck off, tosser...
You contribute fuck-all here.
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
The justice system is a joke. There really is no justice. Its just a fancy term.
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
[size=200]THE FUCKING POLICE CHARGE YOU AT TIME OF OFFENSE, YOU DUMB BITCH!
LATER CROWN DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT TO PROCEED WITH CHARGES AT TRIAL!
IS THIS FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH, AND EASY ENOUGH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND NOW?[/size]
Mel...you're wrong.
I even provided you with a link by the government explaining it. No amount of caps lock is going to change that.
It's like watching two wino's arguing about solid vs liquid fuelled missiles.
Only I'm right.
Quote from: "RW"
I even provided you with a link by the government explaining it. No amount of caps lock is going to change that.
I'm fucking telling you how it works here...
Not by some fucking link, but as one that has actually been "through the system"...
Now fuck off and try to be uber-smart on another subject with someone dumb.
See you think because the police read you your rights and tell you you're being charged that they lay the charges. Well they don't. Crown does.
Accept it.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
I know!
Pricktop, get your uppity bitch under control!
this calls for some cheese
Quote from: "RW"
Accept it.
Have you ever been charged with a crime?
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
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I know!
Pricktop, get your uppity bitch under control!
Oh stop whining. I'm right. You're wrong. Deal with it.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME?
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "RW"
Accept it.
Have you ever been charged with a crime?
No. But now you have so you know how it works. Like I said slappy, police recommend the charge. Crown officially lays the charge.
Quote from: "RW"
No? Then shut your uppity fucking yap.
You have NO FUCKING CLUE how our system works here then, whereas I do!
Right. Then why can't you read an official government website and admit you're wrong...and stewpid?
WHY ARE THE MALES YELLING TONIGHT?? SHOULD I YELL TOO??
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
They think it makes them right when really they're just loud and dumb.
Lol
Where did Mel go?
He passed out in embarrassment.
ac_biggrin
Yeah... Dealing with a deaf, dumb, and blind poster, as well as a cripple with a foul attitude...
You can understand why Ace may need to step away from time to time...
You're still wrong.
Quote from: "RW"
You dumb bitch!
Ace now needs some Rockabilly!
Any requests?
Eat Shit Cowboy
I'll try to find that title...
I found this!
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
No, don't do that.
Yelling on the net is incredibly stupid....
Renee, get your bitch RW under control...
Now...
She's been acting up...
You got schooled.
Ha ha.
Quote from: "RW"
Ha ha.
Really?
RW, there comes a time where we have to hang up the keys...
Know it.
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Now...
She's been acting up...
Yeah, right after you get your alcoholism under control.
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Probably about you Berry..
You're very popular with the boys here.
They all love me!
He came back....geez what time you go to bed?? Im gnerally out by atleast 11pm...im at work and im tired.
Sounds like Mel had a temper tantrum last night.
Mel is a temper tantrum.
true
He's never been as smart as he thinks he is.
This may wind up adding 3 pages to the derailment thread...........
Quote from: "kiebers"
We were debating the applicable law involved in the OP.
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "kiebers"
We were debating the applicable law involved in the OP.
:MG_216:
Hahaha!
Im gonna finish my tea and then head home. Wild one!!
Tops!
Quote from: "Bricktop"
They are apparently looking for the BIKER for HIT AND RUN!!!
Good luck with that.
Road rage is so stupid.