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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 12:46:38 AM

Title: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 12:46:38 AM
That you think that the refugee Syrian Muslim that beat the shit out of his wife for 30 minutes with a hockey stick "just didn't know any better" and "should have been better versed in Canada's laws"...





I am willing to bet that you believe he didn't know that what he was doing here was wrong, as he is simply not familiar with our laws?



I'll be honest though....  The use of a Hockey Stick did make me laugh!  Evil!
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 12:51:34 AM
No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 12:52:36 AM
He IS charged with assault!



The Liberal Left are claiming that we didn't do our duty in explaining to him the laws of the new country, and perhaps he should be found not guilty!
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 12:55:22 AM
Just like a Russian mail order bride that doesn't know about North American divorce laws before she even steps foot on that plane...
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 01:08:47 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"He IS charged with assault!



The Liberal Left are claiming that we didn't do our duty in explaining to him the laws of the new country, and perhaps he should be found not guilty!

People make all sorts of excuses for shit.  Ignorance of the law has never been a valid defense.  But no harm in focusing on informing immigrants (and everyone else for that matter) about laws.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 01:36:11 AM
You don't think they already know the laws here?
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 01:40:44 AM
Then again, stupid White people try from time to time also, to smuggle drugs into a not-so-forgiving country...



Again, they KNEW the risk...  They KNOW the laws there.  That's why I find it hard to feel sorry for them...



Yes, there ARE some countries that will sentence you to 30 years hard labour for smuggling drugs...  Do NOT tell me that you weren't aware, when you were planning to smuggle drugs into said country...
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 02:06:17 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"You don't think they already know the laws here?

When were we ever taught laws?  I find it interesting that schools will teach us about Egypt and how to write a fucking haiku but we aren't taught basic rights and basic laws.  Employment law, labour law, criminal law, tenancy law, human rights, consumer law, traffic law, etc should be taught in high school and mandatory.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Bricktop on June 24, 2017, 06:33:08 AM
That's it.



Feed the troll.



That will make him go away.





 :001_rolleyes:



When are you going to stop ignoring this piece of shit??
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Aryan on June 24, 2017, 07:07:30 AM
Those turd worlders have completely different ethics and morals to westerners, its no wonder that we aren't compatible  with them.    



Good luck trying to explain that to a wooly brained libtard though.....
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: realgrimm on June 24, 2017, 09:28:10 AM
Sad as it is with the Llbtard hug it out agenda ,there is a process before an immigrant can be landed they have to be sworn into that country proving they understand and acknowledge the laws charters and the history that defines the moral conduct of that countries society .. So unless he's an illegal (therefore gets deported) he needs to feel the wrath of the legal system.. FUCK their religion when it infringes on anothers quality of life or effects the countries moral fiber..
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"That's it.



Feed the troll.



That will make him go away.





 :001_rolleyes:



When are you going to stop ignoring this piece of shit??

I'm not ignoring him now.



Take the hint already.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 10:54:29 AM
Quote from: "realgrimm"Sad as it is with the Llbtard hug it out agenda ,there is a process before an immigrant can be landed they have to be sworn into that country proving they understand and acknowledge the laws charters and the history that defines the moral conduct of that countries society .. So unless he's an illegal (therefore gets deported) he needs to feel the wrath of the legal system.. FUCK their religion when it infringes on anothers quality of life or effects the countries moral fiber..

There ya go.  



Ignorance is no excuse.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"Sad as it is with the Llbtard hug it out agenda ,there is a process before an immigrant can be landed they have to be sworn into that country proving they understand and acknowledge the laws charters and the history that defines the moral conduct of that countries society .. So unless he's an illegal (therefore gets deported) he needs to feel the wrath of the legal system.. FUCK their religion when it infringes on anothers quality of life or effects the countries moral fiber..

Do you mean the citizenship test realgrimm?



That happens in Canada a least three years after a person has landed.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: "RW"No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.

Exactly, his ethnicity or where he's from has nothing to do with it. We have plenty of abusive alcoholic guys who were born in this country.



Is it just me, or does anyone else find it a tad rich that a misogynistic asshole like Mel suddenly cares about women?
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.

Exactly, his ethnicity or where he's from has nothing to do with it. We have plenty of abusive alcoholic guys who were born in this country.



Is it just me, or does anyone find it a tad rich that a misogynistic asshole like Mel suddenly cares about women?

He doesn't care about women.  He's trying to have some "gotcha!" moment with my position on Muslims.



 Do have to say though, if we are bringing people into our country and they are breaking our laws, we should do what we can to prevent it.  That would involve actively educating new citizens about our laws.  That isn't the bleeding heart lefty answer; it's a solution to a problem.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2017, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.

Exactly, his ethnicity or where he's from has nothing to do with it. We have plenty of abusive alcoholic guys who were born in this country.



Is it just me, or does anyone find it a tad rich that a misogynistic asshole like Mel suddenly cares about women?

He doesn't care about women.  He's trying to have some "gotcha!" moment with my position on Muslims.



Do have to say though, if we are bringing people into our country and they are breaking our laws, we should do what we can to prevent it.  That would involve actively educating new citizens about our laws.  That isn't the bleeding heart lefty answer; it's a solution to a problem.

I know RW..



It seems to be a common strategy.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2017, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "RW"No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.

Exactly, his ethnicity or where he's from has nothing to do with it. We have plenty of abusive alcoholic guys who were born in this country.



Is it just me, or does anyone find it a tad rich that a misogynistic asshole like Mel suddenly cares about women?

He doesn't care about women.  He's trying to have some "gotcha!" moment with my position on Muslims.



Do have to say though, if we are bringing people into our country and they are breaking our laws, we should do what we can to prevent it.  That would involve actively educating new citizens about our laws.  That isn't the bleeding heart lefty answer; it's a solution to a problem.

I know RW..



It seems to be a common strategy.

I know what the goofball was trying to do. I was reminding him that it won't work.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Berry Sweet on June 24, 2017, 04:10:08 PM
Religion and excuses have no place in society today.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"I know what the goofball was trying to do. I was reminding him that it won't work.

Quote from: "Bricktop"That's it.When are you going to stop ignoring this piece of shit??




If you two fags don't like me, or my threads, then don't fucking post in them.  Simple enough concept that even a retard should be able to comprehend.



Maybe just stick to threads and posters that interest you, and leave my threads alone for those that wish to actually post something that's thread related.



Bricktop claims to be ultra-smart, but he seem to have a hard time grasping even these simple concepts.  What a fucking tosser...
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
LOL @ him administering the punishment with a hockey stick!    :roll:



I bet whatever she did, she won't do that again!
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"LOL @ him administering the punishment with a hockey stick!    :roll:



I bet whatever she did, she won't do that again!

I bet after he gets ass fucked jail, he won't either.



 :yahoo:
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 24, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"Bricktop claims to be ultra-smart, but he seem to have a hard time grasping even these simple concepts.  What a fucking tosser...

He's just stating the obvious.  You are a bit of a train wreck.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Angry White Male on June 24, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
He's a tosser!
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 24, 2017, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Religion and excuses have no place in society today.

As long as that religion is an ideology called Islam, I agree.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Berry Sweet on June 24, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Religion and excuses have no place in society today.

As long as that religion is an ideology called Islam, I agree.


Im a believer but I keep it to myself and dont use religion as an excuse to act like an asshole.  This shit needs to stop.



JW needs to stop coming door to door and pestering people at sky train stops.  There are 2 young guys that keep coming to my place to try and "save" me ....I gave them shit about a month ago...havent seen them since..good riddance
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 03:45:26 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Religion and excuses have no place in society today.

As long as that religion is an ideology called Islam, I agree.


Im a believer but I keep it to myself and dont use religion as an excuse to act like an asshole.  This shit needs to stop.



JW needs to stop coming door to door and pestering people at sky train stops.  There are 2 young guys that keep coming to my place to try and "save" me ....I gave them shit about a month ago...havent seen them since..good riddance

And that compares to killing infidels. Religion is a pain in the ass, but Islam is an ideology that likes you best  dead.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Blurt on June 25, 2017, 07:20:24 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Islam is an ideology that likes you best  dead.

No, you're thinking of Unitology.



Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: weebles on June 25, 2017, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: "RW"No, I think that guy is a wife beating piece of shit like all the other wife beating pieces of shit out there.  He should be charged with assault.

I agree Assault and Battery with a Weapon  and it should based on Canadian laws and not be about Race Religion or Creed (seperation of church and state is important) and all people that did or do the same thing get the same charges and sentancing.



 Justice should be blind but everyone has the right to fair and open trial by an unbiased Judge and unbiased  jury of their peers and have someone to defend/represent their case  to advise them in a court of law...everyone is



 Innocent till proven Guilty in Court of Law everyone should have that legal right.



For Latins and Greeks : Lady Justice is also known as Iustitia or Justitia after Latin: Iustitia the Roman goddess of Justice, who is equivalent to the Greek goddess Themis and Dike.



VERTATIS EX MEMORIA
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
Very interesting stuff weebs.



I agree that justice should be blind to religion.  It's not a justification or an excuse.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: "RW"Very interesting stuff weebs.



I agree that justice should be blind to religion.  It's not a justification or an excuse.

Jesus recognized the authority of the state..



Faith, and culture cannot be an excuse for breaking the law.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 01:06:18 PM
Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
Sorry...what did I say that was wrong?



If you're going to correct me, make sure I'm actually wrong, mmmkay.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: "RW"Sorry...what did I say that was wrong?



If you're going to correct me, make sure I'm actually wrong, mmmkay.

I just showed you from an Islamic scholar. Islam is not interested in Western secular law. It's ignorant to assume it will follow the Christian trajectory because it IS NOT Christianity. The proof of that is from Malaysia to Marseille.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
That doesn't show that at all.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"

I did a search of Shadi Hamid..



He pointed out something I knew and that is what we consider secular Malaysia and Indonesia actually have more sharia bylaws at the local level than many Middle Eastern nations..



He calls Muhammad a state builder, and to build a state you need to capture territory, which requires violence..



He summed up Islamism in a sentence as the attempt to reconcile pre-modern Islamic law with the modern nation state.



I have no problem with that and some Christians want to bring faith into the public sphere even though the Lord recognized the separation of state and faith..



Maybe if Muslims form majorities in some jurisdictions in the future they may enact bylaws that are centred around Islamic law..



We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"

I did a search of Shadi Hamid..



He pointed out something I knew and that is what we consider secular Malaysia and Indonesia actually have more sharia bylaws at the local level than many Middle Eastern nations..



He calls Muhammad a state builder, and to build a state you need to capture territory, which requires violence..



He summed up Islamism in a sentence as the attempt to reconcile pre-modern Islamic law with the modern nation state.



I have no problem with that and some Christians want to bring faith into the public sphere even though the Lord recognized the separation of state and faith..



Maybe if Muslims form majorities in some jurisdictions in the future they may enact bylaws that are centred around Islamic law..



We'll see I guess.

Not in our country.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: weebles on June 25, 2017, 02:51:36 PM
not really a Lawmaker (it would be difficult to say the least)  nor do I know much about law But I should learn about it more though TBH before I can give an informed thoughtout a Opinion..





Would have to read/study about it learn about from all diffent spectrums  then do some poundering/deep thinking on it before I can make any argumants here TBH...
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"

I did a search of Shadi Hamid..



He pointed out something I knew and that is what we consider secular Malaysia and Indonesia actually have more sharia bylaws at the local level than many Middle Eastern nations..



He calls Muhammad a state builder, and to build a state you need to capture territory, which requires violence..



He summed up Islamism in a sentence as the attempt to reconcile pre-modern Islamic law with the modern nation state.



I have no problem with that and some Christians want to bring faith into the public sphere even though the Lord recognized the separation of state and faith..



Maybe if Muslims form majorities in some jurisdictions in the future they may enact bylaws that are centred around Islamic law..



We'll see I guess.

Not in our country.

And what if they did place restrictions on alcohol at the local level..



You and I aren't drinkers..



I can see Mel, Odinson, Herman and perhaps Shen Li and Seoul being angry, but it won't affect us.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: "weebles"the probel with making writteing laws is over time they mat need to be chaged so they can evolve and at the time they were written one must assume things  were diffrent as ell hard to understand when they wer written of how things will be into the future they need to be flexable with the times.



Plus with them being open to diffrent peoples interpretation leads to misinterpretation which also adds other problems with lawmaking from what I see then again not really brushed up on Law/Lawmaking just thinking outloud here.

I think that is what the Islamic scholar is getting at weebles..



Islam sees state and faith as one in the same as I understand it, but sharia law is still in the pre modern era..



If they updated and modernized sharia law there would be less opposition to Islam in m opinion.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
And what if they did place restrictions on alcohol at the local level.

 :2r4ml1j_th:
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"

I did a search of Shadi Hamid..



He pointed out something I knew and that is what we consider secular Malaysia and Indonesia actually have more sharia bylaws at the local level than many Middle Eastern nations..



He calls Muhammad a state builder, and to build a state you need to capture territory, which requires violence..



He summed up Islamism in a sentence as the attempt to reconcile pre-modern Islamic law with the modern nation state.



I have no problem with that and some Christians want to bring faith into the public sphere even though the Lord recognized the separation of state and faith..



Maybe if Muslims form majorities in some jurisdictions in the future they may enact bylaws that are centred around Islamic law..



We'll see I guess.

Not in our country.

And what if they did place restrictions on alcohol at the local level..



You and I aren't drinkers..



I can see Mel, Odinson, Herman and perhaps Shen Li and Seoul being angry, but it won't affect us.

We have many legal restrictions on alcohol already but we did prohibition.  It was a huge failure.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
There are towns in Canada that are "dry". Most reserves are dry too and we see how well that's working out.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2017, 06:05:25 PM
Still have dry counties and towns in Texas. This one does a good business due to a couple close towns not selling alcohol. It's also the closest to the Frio river in Concan.  



(//%3C/s%3E%3CIMGUR%20id=%22cWsPxBn%22%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.imgur.com/cWsPxBn.jpg?1%22%3Ehttp://i.imgur.com/cWsPxBn.jpg?1%3C/URL%3E%3C/IMGUR%3E%3Ce%3E)



Closeup of their sign.....



(//%3C/s%3E%3CIMGUR%20id=%22RewXyGh%22%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://i.imgur.com/RewXyGh.jpg%22%3Ehttp://i.imgur.com/RewXyGh.jpg%3C/URL%3E%3C/IMGUR%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
Kiebers, that is so priceless. ac_toofunny



It should be in laughter lounge.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"There are towns in Canada that are "dry". Most reserves are dry too and we see how well that's working out.

I forgot about dry areas.  Mass prohibition was still a fail though.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2017, 06:15:54 PM
I know. I laughed my ass off when I came over that bridge and saw that for the first time. I have shopped there quite a few times. These are my pics....LOL Still have bullet holes from a failed armed robbery attempt.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: kiebers on June 25, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"There are towns in Canada that are "dry". Most reserves are dry too and we see how well that's working out.

I forgot about dry areas.  Mass prohibition was still a fail though.

It definitely was a fail in the states...LOL

I just saw a petition to allow alcohol sales for one of the small towns I mentioned above.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: Anonymous on June 25, 2017, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"There are towns in Canada that are "dry". Most reserves are dry too and we see how well that's working out.

I forgot about dry areas.  Mass prohibition was still a fail though.

I'm anti alcohol now, but I agree.
Title: Re: RW, I'm Willing to Wager a Bet...
Post by: weebles on June 25, 2017, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"Most religions advocate following the laws of the land you live, including Islam.

Wrong. There is nothing in any religion quite like Islam.



In his new book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid a scholar at Brookings, and a self-identified liberal calls that  a "well-intentioned red herring." He says Islam really is different from other religions, he says, and many Muslims view politics, theocracy, and violence differently than do Christians, Jews, or non-religious people in Europe and the United States.



He said, "I see very little reason to think secularism is going to win out in the war of ideas. But the question is: Why would it in the first place? Why would that even be our starting presumption as American observers? It's presumptuous and patronizing to think a different religion is going to follow the same basic trajectory as Christianity"

I did a search of Shadi Hamid..



He pointed out something I knew and that is what we consider secular Malaysia and Indonesia actually have more sharia bylaws at the local level than many Middle Eastern nations..



He calls Muhammad a state builder, and to build a state you need to capture territory, which requires violence..



He summed up Islamism in a sentence as the attempt to reconcile pre-modern Islamic law with the modern nation state.



I have no problem with that and some Christians want to bring faith into the public sphere even though the Lord recognized the separation of state and faith..



Maybe if Muslims form majorities in some jurisdictions in the future they may enact bylaws that are centred around Islamic law..



We'll see I guess.

Not in our country.

And what if they did place restrictions on alcohol at the local level..



You and I aren't drinkers..



I can see Mel, Odinson, Herman and perhaps Shen Li and Seoul being angry, but it won't affect us.

you have to remember that  some people can sociably drink  and others that have drinking problem(s) IMO it   should   be seen as an addiction/mental health issue plus if it were banned there would be a huge illicit black market for it.



 It would end up uncontrolled/unregulated and people would never know the quality or Alcohol by  volume  of a drink or what type or grade of alcohol they are comsuming Or even if it is alcohol.



it would be  much like the  opioid  crisis we face with fentanyl today and accidental Overdoses.



Since prohibition made  the Gangsters/Booze Runners Rich back in the day caused violent shootings and other Gang Relateed illegal activity it would not  work and people  need to be fre to choose if they want to drinl or not but their should be regulators  to insure it is safe and has quilty control.



also to prevent it from going to the black market and it  could be used to raise taxes (Sin Tax*) to help with alcoholism/addicton treatment(s) and anti-drinking and driving ad's.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax



 Criticism remains that Prohibition led to unintended consequences such as the growth of urban crime organizations and a century of Prohibition-influenced legislation. As an experiment it lost supporters every year, and lost tax revenue that governments needed when the Great Depression began in 1929.

source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
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Post by: RW on June 25, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
We should legalize drugs too.
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Post by: Angry White Male on June 25, 2017, 09:12:01 PM
We should legalize hockey stick beatings for uppity women...
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Post by: Angry White Male on June 25, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"There are towns in Canada that are "dry". Most reserves are dry too and we see how well that's working out.

People make huge bucks smuggling in the booze.
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Post by: RW on June 26, 2017, 12:07:48 AM
My great grandpa was a bootlegger.
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Post by: Angry White Male on June 26, 2017, 12:11:05 AM
My Great Grandfather was very high up in the Nazi regime...  to the point where he discussed what he did with no one...  not even family.
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Post by: RW on June 26, 2017, 12:13:52 AM
My grandpa died in a concentration camp.



He fell out of a guard tower.  



Hahaha
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Post by: Angry White Male on June 26, 2017, 12:14:29 AM
You know, historically the Wops and the Krauts got along well enough...
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Post by: Angry White Male on June 26, 2017, 12:16:13 AM
He never disclosed what he did in the regime to anyone...  Not even on his death bed.
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Post by: RW on June 26, 2017, 12:36:55 AM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"You know, historically the Wops and the Krauts got along well enough...

My nanny growing up was German.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2017, 02:41:27 AM
Quote from: "weebles"you have to remember that  some people can sociably drink  and others that have drinking problem(s) IMO it   should   be seen as an addiction/mental health issue plus if it were banned there would be a huge illicit black market for it.



 It would end up uncontrolled/unregulated and people would never know the quality or Alcohol by  volume  of a drink or what type or grade of alcohol they are comsuming Or even if it is alcohol.



it would be  much like the  opioid  crisis we face with fentanyl today and accidental Overdoses.



Since prohibition made  the Gangsters/Booze Runners Rich back in the day caused violent shootings and other Gang Relateed illegal activity it would not  work and people  need to be fre to choose if they want to drinl or not but their should be regulators  to insure it is safe and has quilty control.



also to prevent it from going to the black market and it  could be used to raise taxes (Sin Tax*) to help with alcoholism/addicton treatment(s) and anti-drinking and driving ad's.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax



 Criticism remains that Prohibition led to unintended consequences such as the growth of urban crime organizations and a century of Prohibition-influenced legislation. As an experiment it lost supporters every year, and lost tax revenue that governments needed when the Great Depression began in 1929.

source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

I fully understand that prohibition is a non starter..



I was talking about how moderate sharia law may not be too bad at all and even has examples in Canada that don't allow alcohol sales.
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Post by: RW on June 26, 2017, 02:48:57 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "weebles"you have to remember that  some people can sociably drink  and others that have drinking problem(s) IMO it   should   be seen as an addiction/mental health issue plus if it were banned there would be a huge illicit black market for it.



 It would end up uncontrolled/unregulated and people would never know the quality or Alcohol by  volume  of a drink or what type or grade of alcohol they are comsuming Or even if it is alcohol.



it would be  much like the  opioid  crisis we face with fentanyl today and accidental Overdoses.



Since prohibition made  the Gangsters/Booze Runners Rich back in the day caused violent shootings and other Gang Relateed illegal activity it would not  work and people  need to be fre to choose if they want to drinl or not but their should be regulators  to insure it is safe and has quilty control.



also to prevent it from going to the black market and it  could be used to raise taxes (Sin Tax*) to help with alcoholism/addicton treatment(s) and anti-drinking and driving ad's.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax



 Criticism remains that Prohibition led to unintended consequences such as the growth of urban crime organizations and a century of Prohibition-influenced legislation. As an experiment it lost supporters every year, and lost tax revenue that governments needed when the Great Depression began in 1929.

source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

I fully understand that prohibition is a non starter..



I was talking about how moderate sharia law may not be too bad at all and even has examples in Canada that don't allow alcohol sales.

I think adopting of good laws regardless of the origin is a good practise.  I just don't think there is such thing as sharia light.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "weebles"you have to remember that  some people can sociably drink  and others that have drinking problem(s) IMO it   should   be seen as an addiction/mental health issue plus if it were banned there would be a huge illicit black market for it.



 It would end up uncontrolled/unregulated and people would never know the quality or Alcohol by  volume  of a drink or what type or grade of alcohol they are comsuming Or even if it is alcohol.



it would be  much like the  opioid  crisis we face with fentanyl today and accidental Overdoses.



Since prohibition made  the Gangsters/Booze Runners Rich back in the day caused violent shootings and other Gang Relateed illegal activity it would not  work and people  need to be fre to choose if they want to drinl or not but their should be regulators  to insure it is safe and has quilty control.



also to prevent it from going to the black market and it  could be used to raise taxes (Sin Tax*) to help with alcoholism/addicton treatment(s) and anti-drinking and driving ad's.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax



 Criticism remains that Prohibition led to unintended consequences such as the growth of urban crime organizations and a century of Prohibition-influenced legislation. As an experiment it lost supporters every year, and lost tax revenue that governments needed when the Great Depression began in 1929.

source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

I fully understand that prohibition is a non starter..



I was talking about how moderate sharia law may not be too bad at all and even has examples in Canada that don't allow alcohol sales.

I think adopting of good laws regardless of the origin is a good practise.  I just don't think there is such thing as sharia light.

Maybe not, but if there was it could bridge a big cultural divide.