https://www.facebook.com/YoungChizzFanPage/videos/461302274028345/
Only in America...
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Only in America...
I'm not okay with my children learning this in school.
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Only in America...
I hope it's nowhere else.
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Only in America...
Only in Florida.
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Only in America...
What is "only" in America?
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Only in America...
What is "only" in America?
You need clarification on what is a simple statement?
Only Americans would determine that inculcating children with satanic concepts is the equivalent of preaching Xtianity.
Most of the rest of the world would see a distinction between teaching children generally good principles with teaching children emotionally damaging concepts.
Of course, the wiser decision would be to stop teaching religion in ALL State schools.
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The board has been considering such a change since a group called The Satanic Temple asked last fall for permission to distribute a Satanic coloring book and two fact sheets to Orange students.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/education/os-bibles-satanic-pamphlets-banned-20150210-story.html
What the facts are is this happened almost 3 years ago and nothing was allowed to be passed out or taught in the schools. At this point it doesn't matter anymore. Everything is banned. It was fixed, almost 3 years ago. About the same time they were banning bibles, among other things, in Australia.
I suppose I should commend you on the source. A fan page for New York rapper Young Chizz. The post and comments were in May of 2015 and the School Board banned in Feb of 2015. Guess the news traveled slow to them. Thought you would have seen those dates and looked a little deeper prior to posting such an inflammatory thread.
Just your same old I hate America rhetoric.
But I have a question.
Prior to Australia's recent bannings of bibles, couldn't a church of satan in Australia have done the same thing and sued to be allowed to pass out their coloring books since bibles were allowed?
There you go!!!
You made a POST!!
Good boy.
I don't much care to delve deep into the American psyche. Whatever your blathering claims, the point that some idiot believed it was appropriate to teach satanism in schools still stands.
And no...it would not happen in Australia.
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You made a POST!!
Good boy.
I don't much care to delve deep into the American psyche. Whatever your blathering claims, the point that some idiot believed it was appropriate to teach satanism in schools still stands.
And no...it would not happen in Australia.
I doubt it happens on a regular basis in the USA either.
But it happens, clearly.
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I have never known an American who was taught
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I don't much care to delve deep into the American psyche. Whatever your blathering claims, the point that some idiot believed it was appropriate to teach satanism in schools still stands.
And no...it would not happen in Australia.
American psyche has nothing to do with anything stated...deflection... Church of Satan has followers in Australia and its not illegal. Seems that Australia and America are the same in the long run in this case.
What ever my claims....LOLOLOLOL Whatever my facts, you mean. You stood there in a glass house and it crumbled all around you.
You really should apply to CNN, you would fit right in. Sensationalize when possible regardless of facts that prove you wrong.
Same, old, hate America condescending rhetoric you have been crying big tears for, for years.
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I have never known an American who was taught
Satanism is not now nor has it ever been taught in any public school in a populated area that I am aware of.
Typical anti-American rant from the resident ass...
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I have never known an American who was taught
Typical anti-American rant from the resident ass...
That's what I thought kiebers.
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I have never known an American who was taught
Satanism is not now nor has it ever been taught in any public school in a populated area that I am aware of.
Typical anti-American rant from the resident ass...
Hey, dickhead...the source is NOT some rap artists web site.
It is a news broadcast POSTED on that website.
Are you claiming it is not factual?
Fake news, perhaps?
Trying to pretend that its OK because other countries do it is fatuous, sunshine. Satanism is probably a world wide movement...but only in the US does it seem it can be taught in schools.
Focus on the facts, son. Not on the messenger.
If you want to turn it into a "My country vs Your country" to condone American stupidity, by all means. Bring it on. We can start with gun control. Or the electoral system. Or the judicial system. Or the health system. Any platform you want, I'll step up.
Your news story doesn't say it's taught in schools. They said Satanists were allowed to hand out material to kids because the Yay God folks were allowed to.
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Focus on the facts, son. Not on the messenger.
I focused on the facts, boy...something you failed to do. Not turning it into a vs anything. Just noted the similarities in this respect. Not gonna call it an epic fail because I believe you can fail much harder, but a fail never the less.
I cited a NEWS story.
I am not going to test its veracity.
You can believe it, or not.
And don't call me "boy", junior.
I believe it to be a true demonstration of the faith blind application of the law so in that, the story makes perfect sense, as does the subsequent amendment to said law.
No surprise there.
Like I said, the RIGHT path is to forbid ALL religions from school.
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Like I said, the RIGHT path is to forbid ALL religions from school.
And they did that because it's ALL or NOTHING. No Satan for Florida kids :(
Only in America...just like I said.
This is the same country that declared "Scientology" a religion.
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This is the same country that declared "Scientology" a religion.
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Looks like it is in yours as well but I believe they don't have tax exempt status.
We were compelled by the fact that the US had relented. It was a global decision.
That doesn't make it any less a religion down under.
Once the US government capitulated, other governments fell in line.
However, they are a tiny bunch of zealots here, and do not conduct themselves like they do there, nor do they receive any assistance and tax relief.
Odd, though, that there one-time enforcer and henchman comes from here, eh.
Mike Rinder.
Yep. Asshole.
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I admire the shit out of him. He lays himself bare and owns his actions. He's a good person trying to make it right.
Perhaps...
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Only in America...
I'm not okay with my children learning this in school.
Yeah right youre gonna get an education here from me.
Go on say it one more fucken time and I will tell you what I saw on the net the other day.
Go on try me.
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Most of the rest of the world would see a distinction between teaching children generally good principles with teaching children emotionally damaging concepts.
Of course, the wiser decision would be to stop teaching religion in ALL State schools.
And that's exactly what The Satanic Temple is trying to accomplish. Stopping the indoctrination of thousands of children. Keeping the Ten Commandments and the Christian cross off of government property. Keeping church and state separate.
Funny how you've never had a problem with Christians trying to convert public school children throughout the entire history of public schooling. At this very moment there are Christians trying to get Creationism taught as a scientific theory.
Satanism has never been taught in schools and it never will be. These people aren't actually Satanists. They're just making a good point.
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Currently, nine clubs are listed as participating in the program including Los Angeles, Salt Lake City and Washington DC. The clubs will focus on "rationalism, free inquiry... and fun," according to a promotional video.
The Temple is taking aim at the Good News Club, an interdenominational Christian program for five to 12-year-olds operating in over 3,500 public schools across the US. The club's curriculum was created by the Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF) and includes Bible studies.
TST said it is "not interested in operating After School Satan Clubs in school districts that are not already hosting the Good News Club."
A spokesperson for TST, Lucien Greaves, said After School Satan clubs will bring diversity to the religious opinions children are exposed to in school. It will give them an option other than the Good News Club, which he claimed instills children "with a fear of Hell and God's wrath."
"We prefer to give children an appreciation of the natural wonders surrounding them, not a fear of everlasting other-worldly horrors," Greaves said. Reasoning, social skills and science are listed on the clubs' curriculum.
TST said it believes religion should be kept out of schools but that it must fight to "ensure that plurality and true religious liberty are respected."
Speaking to The Salt Lake Tribune, Mat Staver, from policy organization the Liberty Counsel, said TST's planned clubs are protected by the first amendment. Staver said he believes the clubs, which will require permission slips signed by the child's parent/guardian, will be poorly attended and fade away.
The Temple, which claims not to worship Satan but instead view him as a metaphor for rebellion and rational inquiry, applied to read the invocation of a city council meeting in Phoenix earlier this year.
//https://www.rt.com/usa/354146-satanic-temple-after-school/
The Satanic Temple is a purely biased political organization..
They also mock Christians..
While many, but not all Christian after school organizations are apolitical.
No religion in public schools.
Why is this hard?
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Why is this hard?
Students in US schools are permitted to form clubs for various reasons including shared faith.
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They also mock Christians..
While many, but not all Christian after school organizations are apolitical.
There should be a push back for Christians mocking the separation of church and state. Trying to indoctrinate children at
If Christians weren't mocking the separation of church and state, the Satanic Temple wouldn't even exist.
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Why is this hard?
Students in US schools are permitted to form clubs for various reasons including shared faith.
Right you are.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92875
Supreme Court Says Religious Clubs Can Meet at Public Schools
That Satanic thing is just an extreme leftist organization that has a problem with people exercising their constitutional rights peacefully.
Do you believe only Christians should be allowed push their religion on public school children? Only Christians should be allowed to have religious monuments on government property? Only Christian prayers should be allowed before public council meetings?
Doesn't sound fair to me.
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Doesn't sound fair to me.
It's up to parents and students if they want to join any after school club. The SCOTUS has ruled on it, get over it.
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That means
The Satanic Temple is doing exactly what those Christians are doing. Their point is being well made, so just get over it!
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Doesn't sound fair to me.
It's up to parents and students if they want to join any after school club. The SCOTUS has ruled on it, get over it.
There are Islamic after school clubs in the USA too..
And like you pointed out, perfectly legal and up to students if they want to join.
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That means
The Satanic Temple is doing exactly what those Christians are doing. Their point is being well made, so just get over it!
I posted this
Romero wrote:
So you believe only Christians should be allowed push their religion on public school children? Only Christians should be allowed to have religious monuments on government property? Only Christian prayers should be allowed before public council meetings?
Doesn't sound fair to me.
And yes, that includes left wing extremist organizations who single out Christians for mockery.
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There are Islamic after school clubs in the USA too..
And like you pointed out, perfectly legal and up to students if they want to join.
Perhaps those Satanic hypocrite smartasses will start clubs to mock Muslims? NEVER!
I'm sure they would, but there aren't any Muslims doing what these Christians are doing.
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There are plenty of Muslim after school organizations in the US as well as Muslim parents wanting accomodation of
their religion.
Detroit school holds Muslim female only prom
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/12/detroit-school-holds-muslim-female-only-prom
Even in Canada
Muslim prayers in schools get provincial endorsement following intense meeting
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/03/23/muslim-prayers-in-schools-get-provincial-endorsement-following-intense-meeting.html
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Why is this hard?
Students in US schools are permitted to form clubs for various reasons including shared faith.
They shouldn't be. No religion in public school, PERIOD. There are churches, private schools and community centres for that.
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There are plenty of Muslim after school organizations in the US as well as Muslim parents wanting accomodation of
their religion.
Detroit school holds Muslim female only prom
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/12/detroit-school-holds-muslim-female-only-prom
Even in Canada
Muslim prayers in schools get provincial endorsement following intense meeting
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/03/23/muslim-prayers-in-schools-get-provincial-endorsement-following-intense-meeting.html
Religious accommodation is not the same as allowing church groups on school property.
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There are Islamic after school clubs in the USA too..
And like you pointed out, perfectly legal and up to students if they want to join.
Perhaps those Satanic hypocrite smartasses will start clubs to mock Muslims? NEVER!
That's a good idea. The pretend satan progs will turn their ire to the anti-islam satire.
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There are Islamic after school clubs in the USA too..
And like you pointed out, perfectly legal and up to students if they want to join.
Perhaps those Satanic hypocrite smartasses will start clubs to mock Muslims? NEVER!
As I posted in cc's sub, there are no consequences for mocking Christianity/Christians.
There shouldn't be consequences for mocking any religious group.
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But, there are for those who mock Islam. Even mild satire can have consequences as Fash said.
Shin started a thread about courage. If the Satanic Temple had any balls, they would start school clubs as equally contemptuous of Islam as they are of Christianity in cities like Hamtramck, Michigan. It will never happen and the reason is, wait for it------CONSEQUENCES.
I think the reason they don't is that Islam isn't pushing literature in Florida schools.