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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Bricktop on July 12, 2017, 03:46:00 AM

Title: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2017, 03:46:00 AM




I dunno...makes me cringe a bit.



Caused a ruckus here for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 03:58:16 AM
OMG!  Who the fuck thought that would fly?



Oh wait, nobody.  They realised everyone would share it and now I need a stripper pole in my yard.



Thanks a lot Brick!
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Renee on July 12, 2017, 12:17:24 PM
So now you have a thing for prepubescent girls?.....Not cool, Alky.



Not cool at all. :nea:
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 12:52:09 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Alcoholic".


So now you have a thing for prepubescent girls?.....Not cool, Alky.



Not cool at all. :nea:

He's so desperate for attention he'll post anything..



I wish that lazy lush would take the hint and get lost permanently.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 12:57:48 PM
I could see this being fun at outdoor parties lol. I'll swing on it!  :laugh:





Having young girls on it in the ad, not good for how Westerners perceive it (stripper pole), but I can imagine whatever country this ad was created in (found out Czech republic), may be more open about things. That or perhaps the advertising agency, had the client of that product come to them, and say things like "this would be great for dancers and ballerinas, we want to focus on them". So, the advertising agency, prolly tried grown ladies at first, realizing how it looks, and placed children in there instead, hoping to ease minds out of the gutter. As an advertiser, I see no way of truly advertising this product without coming off as it being a stripper pole lol. They tried, but still failed. Do any of you know how to advertise this thing? Perhaps put 2 in a line and attach a string and hang clothes from it lol?



I checked the website, its still a stripper pole, but they are trying to advertise it as being an indoor/outdoor system, leaning more towards outdoor for "cool photo shoots" and stuff. Maybe thats how the company approached the advertisers, "we want to focus on it being outdoors". Agency prolly thought to do kids to make it not so dirty looking. Im just making guesses here, but they still failed lol.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 01:41:28 PM
I think they wanted to sell it as a form of exercise rather than a steipper pole because pole dancing is a real sport and it's crazy hard to do.  They have full on pole competitions.  I think using kids was their way of making it a fun fitness item rather than sexual thing.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Renee on July 12, 2017, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: "RW"I think they wanted to sell it as a form of exercise rather than a steipper pole because pole dancing is a real sport and it's crazy hard to do.  They have full on pole competitions.  I think using kids was their way of making it a fun fitness item rather than sexual thing.


Yeah, that explains the slow motion crotch shots of the 12 year old girls.... :nea:
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Alcoholic"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Alcoholic".


So now you have a thing for prepubescent girls?.....Not cool, Alky.



Not cool at all. :nea:


I'm not cool.


We knew that...



More likely, the drunken fool is so desperate for attention, he'll say anything to get noticed..



A very pathetic person.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
There needs to be a rule around here about no pedophilesque comments.  They're sickening.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Renee on July 12, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: "RW"There needs to be a rule around here about no pedophilesque comments.  They're sickening.


This whole thread is "pedophilesque".



The advert is grotesque in it's overt sexualization of young girls.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"There needs to be a rule around here about no pedophilesque comments.  They're sickening.


This whole thread is "pedophilesque".



The advert is grotesque in it's overt sexualization of young girls.

Like I said, some advertising idiot thought if they used kids it would de-sexualize the pole.



Boy did that backfire.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: "Renee"


The advert is grotesque in it's overt sexualization of young girls.


I had to rewatch it, its not sexualizing at all. Look at it from a dancing perspective. These lil girls are actually doing a good job for their age. The only thing somewhat sexual is the pole, cause thats what our brains are programmed to think, dancing on a pole is sexual.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: "RW"There needs to be a rule around here about no pedophilesque comments.  They're sickening.

I agree and there should be.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "RW"There needs to be a rule around here about no pedophilesque comments.  They're sickening.

I agree and there should be.

I agree too and we have given time outs to posters for such comments..



Okay, I'll discuss this with kiebers and see what we can come up with.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 04:18:33 PM
Isn't the drunk Finn on mod approve posting?
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: "RW"Isn't the drunk Finn on mod approve posting?

Yes, and I disapprove more than half of his drunk spam..



Does he not like the competition on VF from that other bloated liver, Mel?
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Renee on July 12, 2017, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Renee"


The advert is grotesque in it's overt sexualization of young girls.


I had to rewatch it, its not sexualizing at all. Look at it from a dancing perspective. These lil girls are actually doing a good job for their age. The only thing somewhat sexual is the pole, cause thats what our brains are programmed to think, dancing on a pole is sexual.


It's not how athletic the girls are, they are incredible and obviously accomplished gymnasts...It's the inappropriate camera angles,... the accentuation of the spread leg crotch shots that are the problem....did you miss that shit? :oeudC: :laugh3:
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: kiebers on July 12, 2017, 05:10:20 PM
Already removed a few things but I will clean up this thread after Fash and I discuss it. .
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"Isn't the drunk Finn on mod approve posting?

Yes, and I disapprove more than half of his drunk spam..

So why would you approve a post where he drools over young girls?  WTF?
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"Isn't the drunk Finn on mod approve posting?

Yes, and I disapprove more than half of his drunk spam..

So why would you approve a post where he drools over young girls?  WTF?

I didn't and it's gone.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: kiebers on July 12, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
Quote from: "Renee"It's the inappropriate camera angles,... the accentuation of the spread leg crotch shots that are the problem....did you miss that shit? :oeudC: :laugh3:

I think the olympics competitions television coverage could be called out for the same things from what I have observed over the years.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: kiebers on July 12, 2017, 05:22:23 PM
Just so everyone knows, Rule 9 edit was discussed and agreed upon. Fash and I are in agreement and on this particular edit no discussions will be held, we will both edit or delete as necessary.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 05:34:12 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"Just so everyone knows, Rule 9 edit was discussed and agreed upon. Fash and I are in agreement and on this particular edit no discussions will be held, we will both edit or delete as necessary.

So obviously SCOUSE's thread title What?? is ok.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: kiebers on July 12, 2017, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "kiebers"Just so everyone knows, Rule 9 edit was discussed and agreed upon. Fash and I are in agreement and on this particular edit no discussions will be held, we will both edit or delete as necessary.

So obviously SCOUSE's thread title What?? is ok.

The thread "title"...yes. I edited it immediately after he made it since it said "What the Fuck????"...While the first post (meme) is questionable, legitimate discussion of pedophilia is acceptable. Flames, insults and off colored remarks directed at someone (members) is not acceptable.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
Quote from: "Renee"


It's not how athletic the girls are, they are incredible and obviously accomplished gymnasts...It's the inappropriate camera angles,... the accentuation of the spread leg crotch shots that are the problem....did you miss that shit? :oeudC: :laugh3:




Have you ever been to a strip club Renee  :laugh:  ?



Serious, cause when they do spread em like that and swing, it exerts a lot of force on the pole and you would almost think it was gonna come unhinged from the ceiling lololol. I think they are trying to show that the pole can handle it. Here I found this in the comments that helps explain.....



The reason they have their legs spread is for balance, just like horizontal poles in gymnastics. Competitive pole is a sport. There is no ass shaking going on here, only pole tricks also referred to as pole art. There is no dancing in the advertisement. What these young girls are doing is an art, and very much a sport. Not anything akin to stripping.



I also found this, maybe they should have run this advertisement first before pissing off the moms  :roll:





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Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
I think the olympics competitions television coverage could be called out for the same things from what I have observed over the years.


Gotta love the volleyball girls  ac_drinks
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Renee"It's the inappropriate camera angles,... the accentuation of the spread leg crotch shots that are the problem....did you miss that shit? :oeudC: :laugh3:

I think the olympics competitions television coverage could be called out for the same things from what I have observed over the years.

Olympic gymnastics came to mind as well.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Renee on July 12, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Renee"


It's not how athletic the girls are, they are incredible and obviously accomplished gymnasts...It's the inappropriate camera angles,... the accentuation of the spread leg crotch shots that are the problem....did you miss that shit? :oeudC: :laugh3:




Have you ever been to a strip club Renee  :laugh:  ?



Serious, cause when they do spread em like that and swing, it exerts a lot of force on the pole and you would almost think it was gonna come unhinged from the ceiling lololol. I think they are trying to show that the pole can handle it. Here I found this in the comments that helps explain.....



The reason they have their legs spread is for balance, just like horizontal poles in gymnastics. Competitive pole is a sport. There is no ass shaking going on here, only pole tricks also referred to as pole art. There is no dancing in the advertisement. What these young girls are doing is an art, and very much a sport. Not anything akin to stripping.



I also found this, maybe they should have run this advertisement first before pissing off the moms  :roll:





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Yes I've been to strip clubs. When I was in college I worked in an adult novelty/book store. There was a "gentleman's juice bar" which in this state means "full nude no alcohol" right around the corner. I became well acquainted with some of the girls that used to work there and I know what the leg positions are for....and I know how difficult it can be and the strength and balance it requires to do stuff like that.



BUT strip clubs also don't employee prepubescent girls, now do they? At least not in this country...I can't vouch for the third world rat holes that guys like Gordy hang out in... ac_biggrin . But there is a stigma attached to pole dancing that most people find unsavory.



And you are correct, the choice of individuals using the product was wrong and it would have gone a long way to making the commercial more palatable had they used a little more common sense.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "kiebers"
I think the olympics competitions television coverage could be called out for the same things from what I have observed over the years.


Gotta love the volleyball girls  ac_drinks

Aren't most of them butch dikes? Maybe, I'm thinking of women's basketball. ac_umm
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: "Renee"


Yes I've been to strip clubs. When I was in college I worked in an adult novelty/book store. There was a "gentleman's juice bar" which in this state means "full nude no alcohol" right around the corner. I became well acquainted with some of the girls that used to work there and I know what the leg positions are for....and I know how difficult it can be and the strength and balance it requires to do stuff like that.



BUT strip clubs also don't employee prepubescent girls, now do they? At least not in this country...I can't vouch for the third world rat holes that guys like Gordy hang out in... ac_biggrin . But there is a stigma attached to pole dancing that most people find unsavory.



And you are correct, the choice of individuals using the product was wrong and it would have gone a long way to making the commercial more palatable had they used a little more common sense.


But if you call them prepubescent girls strippers you're gonna break their hearts  :sad:



lol



They honestly think they are being gymnastic dancers. Western stigma I agree, looks bad "here" to most.



Hell, maybe out of all the auditions, the lil girls did the best lolol. "Lets use them!" lol. OR, maybe the product doesnt handle grown people as good as the children, so were obliged to use the kids.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "kiebers"
I think the olympics competitions television coverage could be called out for the same things from what I have observed over the years.


Gotta love the volleyball girls  ac_drinks

Aren't most of them butch dikes? Maybe, I'm thinking of women's basketball. ac_umm


I print for a female basketball team, and I swear some have to be dudes lol. I wouldnt wanna mess with them Amazon women lol.



The volleyball girls may be lesbians, most have nice asses though, I love a curvy ass  ac_drinks
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2017, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: "Blazor" I love a curvy ass  ac_drinks

Thank you :wink:
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Blazor on July 12, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Blazor" I love a curvy ass  ac_drinks

Thank you :wink:


So I hear lol. You're welcome I guess  :laugh:
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2017, 09:57:42 PM
I don't know if I find the ad objectionable, or my interpretation of the ad a reflection of my own flaw?



Its discomforting.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: RW on July 12, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
It's objectionable.  They tried to de-sexualize the "fitness pole" but ended up sexualising kids.
Title: Re: Australian ad causes offence
Post by: Bricktop on July 12, 2017, 10:32:36 PM
I thought so...I am definitely not comfortable with it.