The worst federal government I've seen since we came to Canada.
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Months ago, at the beginning of the year, the Liberals were criticized for doing nothing to tackle the then emerging crisis. Their main response was to lash out at their critics.
We now know the numbers of people crossing illegally into Canada primarily through Manitoba and Quebec back then were nothing compared to what's happening now.
In Quebec, hundreds of people a day are now crossing. Social services in the province are overwhelmed such that last week the Olympic Stadium in Montreal was converted into a refugee centre, complete with rows of cots near the refreshment stands.
Canadians watch video clips online and on the television of people illegally streaming across the border. They don't even have time to ask where the police are in all of this. That's because the RCMP are right there — acting more as bellhops than our federal law enforcement agency that should be securing our borders.
This fiasco must come to an end. It undermines our trust in our immigration and refugee system. It sends a message to criminals and terrorists that Canada is an easy country to enter. It implies that our own very own government supports open borders.
An immigration department notice posted to Facebook on Saturday said they were aware that various apps in the U.S. were incorrectly sending word that Canada is encouraging people to flood the borders.
They clarify: "The Government of Canada discourages people from entering Canada outside of designated ports of entry as it can be dangerous and is a violation of the law."
But this is just a nameless departmental release. It lacks clout and won't go viral. It's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who the world needs to hear form on this issue.
He still has yet to walk back his reckless #WelcometoCanada message that erroneously told the world we have open borders.
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The longer Trudeau delays, the more it will just look like he doesn't have control of our borders.
If there is no voice of authority out there telling people to stop crossing into Canada illegally, then they won't. Leadership on this issue is sorely lacking.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/08/07/trudeau-needs-to-regain-control-of-our-borders
This makes me sick. Trump is hated by progressives and big business for doing something about illegal immigration and Trudeau is loved by the same people for his lack of leadership on the issue.
We have sanctuary cities now FFS. City councils who refuse to obey the laws of the land.
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but this topic belongs in a sub.
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So, does this mean you've changed your mind about declaring your house in Winnipeg a sanctuary for border crossers?
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So, does this mean you've changed your mind about declaring your house in Winnipeg a sanctuary for border crossers?
I don't think people we know nothing about entering Canada illegally is a laughing matter.
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So, does this mean you've changed your mind about declaring your house in Winnipeg a sanctuary for border crossers?
I don't think people we know nothing about entering Canada illegally is a laughing matter.
Fucking BULLSEYE!!
Nothing I'd like better than a bunch of Haitians moving in next door...
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What's wrong with people from Haiti?
I do agree something needs to be done. This is getting ridiculous.
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What's wrong with people from Haiti?
Nothing as long as they don't cross the border illegally and make bogus refugee claims.
Everyone knows once you get into Canada illegally you have a good chance of staying...these are pussy laws...people take advantage for sure.
If there is not enough public funds why keep taking in more people than they can sustain?
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If there is not enough public funds why keep taking in more people than they can sustain?
But, IHJ doesn't want immigrants legal or not.
I cannot wait for the Negro refugees!
I will time their arrivals, and hope to sell my place quick, before values drop into the gutter!
You can also just get the fuck out and go home and pawn ya cunt on Peking Street for 3 yuan Shen Li.
you fucken gooky eyed slut.
Although I voted for Trudeau, I have to agree with the OP somewhat, that the Prime Monister is too loose in allowing refugees to cross our borders. He and his government need to put their foot down now before the situation gets out of control.
In all honesty, I'm somewhat disappointed with his performance. However during the last election, I did state that a minority government would've been best for the country no matter who got in. Trudeau like Harper before him, has shown that he can't govern responsibly with a majority government. And Justin is making the same mistake as his father during his first term by running a government lacking in accountability.
I believe we could be in for another minority government after the next election, similar to what happened in 1972, when Dad Trudeau lost his majority and the conservatives came within just 1 seat of dethroning him. I believe Andrew Scheer is a formidable opponent and Trudeau should take him more seriously.
Trudeau and his party are failing to listen to Canadians much like they are too dismissive of Andrew Scheer.
The other thing I was gonna suggest is that if we allow refugees in, they should have to wait 10 years before being eligible to apply for citizenship. Refugee status should not be an automatic pathway to citizenship. And if the refugees are allowed in, then resettle them to living in some shithole like Dawson Creek or Fort Mac.
Also they shouldn't be allowed to apply for high paying government jobs. This would be fair since many immigrants who enter have to often wait years to get in, and they must meet a high educational and professional standard. It's not fair that the refugees get to jump the que ahead of legitimate immigrants.
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Also they shouldn't be allowed to apply for high paying government jobs. This would be fair since many immigrants who enter have to often wait years to get in, and they must meet a high educational and professional standard. It's not fair that the refugees get to jump the que ahead of legitimate immigrants.
You are one predictable troll.
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Also they shouldn't be allowed to apply for high paying government jobs. This would be fair since many immigrants who enter have to often wait years to get in, and they must meet a high educational and professional standard. It's not fair that the refugees get to jump the que ahead of legitimate immigrants.
You are one predictable troll.
Wha? How so, seolbro? You keep calling me a troll, but then never back up your statements how you've been trolled are that I have done so.
Actually, the idea of making refugees wait longer to establish permanent residency isn't even my idea, but one advanced by a conservative pro-Trump supporter whom I met a dinner. Like him, I agree that citizenship shouldn't be given away like candy, that the would be applicant should have to earn it. He's original a British citizen, who had to go through all the normal channels to enter Canada and to gain all the full privileges of citizenship here.
I think in the US, they already have a swap for citizenship with military service option. So...10 hard years in the trenches make them appreciate the value of their citizenship. It's not a given....but they have to wait a long time, pay their dues and to work hard for it.
I don't believe the government should be giving out asylum or a pathway to citizenship like they are now. by pandering to them rather than acting out of the national interest. At the same time, this could well backfire on the Liberal party, as increasing numbers bolt the party and vote Conservative instead.
^^As I said, a predictable troll.
IHJ is a xenophobe, but at least he isn't posting just to try and stir the pot.
Joe is a drive by artist. VF is the perfect place for the likes of him and his bf Edward'.
Here's a good article by Anthony Furey.
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That's what needs to be done to stem the flood of illegal migrants crossing into Canada daily from the United States. It's his problem. He started it. He's uniquely positioned to solve it.
It's an odd notion, that the sentiments and sayings of a political leader alone are enough to shift an issue. It should be more difficult, more complex. And in some respects it is. But it's a fact that Trudeau's hashtag virtue-signalling bears a huge amount of responsibility for the illegal crossings happening at the Quebec border right now.
Back in January he issued his famous #WelcometoCanada tweet that ambiguously implied everyone was welcome to come on in. "Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada took to social media to restate the country's open-door policy," none other than The New York Times parlayed to readers around the world in the first sentence of a major story.
This misleading sentiment continued to be spread throughout migrant circles in the intervening months, bringing us to the current boiling point. "Migrants are being misled about Canada's immigration policy," a recent CTV News headline blares. "False information sends asylum-seeking Haitians to Canada," says The Globe & Mail.
Disturbingly, we've heard little from the actual government when it comes to correcting the record. And it's not like they've been shy in the past at correcting faulty information making its way onto the public record.
In January, the prime minister's office went out of its way to ask for a correction from Fox News Channel for one of their tweets that incorrectly identified the background of the suspect in the Quebec mosque shooting. But the PMO never wrote to The New York Times and other outlets to clarify the "open-door policy" error, which has more damaging repercussions.
The bureaucrats are clearly trying. The immigration and refugee department made a Facebook post over the weekend correcting messages circulating through WhatsApp and other online channels that claims the government is encouraging people to come here.
"In fact, the Government of Canada discourages people from entering Canada outside of designated ports of entry as it can be dangerous and is a violation of the law," the post reads.
It's been shared a measly 124 times. And immigration minister Ahmed Hussen, who's been near silent on the most pressing issue of his portfolio, did tweet out the link without any added comment.
But do you know whose tweet would garner way more than 124 shares? Justin Trudeau's. He's the brand. He's the megaphone. He's got the power to set the world straight.
Why doesn't he do it? What's the hold up?
Migrants have told reporters they're making the trek because they've been told Trudeau is welcoming them. The truth though, when it comes to this latest crop of arrivals originally from Haiti, is that there's a good chance they're just going to be sent back once their claims are processed. Why is Trudeau letting them enter under false pretenses largely of his own creation?
Sure, the Liberals campaigned on being open and progressive. Canadians took them up on that. But nobody, save for a handful of fringe activists, actually wants them to support open borders and sanctuary cities? Right? Please, tell me I'm right. Because, if not, we've got much bigger problems afoot.
Although right now it doesn't matter, because until Trudeau acts, Canada is already one giant sanctuary city.
Do we have any more Olympic Stadiums lying around? Because the first one's filling up fast.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/08/08/until-trudeau-acts-on-border-crisis-canada-is-basically-one-giant-sanctuary-city
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Here's a good article by Anthony Furey.
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That's what needs to be done to stem the flood of illegal migrants crossing into Canada daily from the United States. It's his problem. He started it. He's uniquely positioned to solve it.
It's an odd notion, that the sentiments and sayings of a political leader alone are enough to shift an issue. It should be more difficult, more complex. And in some respects it is. But it's a fact that Trudeau's hashtag virtue-signalling bears a huge amount of responsibility for the illegal crossings happening at the Quebec border right now.
Back in January he issued his famous #WelcometoCanada tweet that ambiguously implied everyone was welcome to come on in. "Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada took to social media to restate the country's open-door policy," none other than The New York Times parlayed to readers around the world in the first sentence of a major story.
This misleading sentiment continued to be spread throughout migrant circles in the intervening months, bringing us to the current boiling point. "Migrants are being misled about Canada's immigration policy," a recent CTV News headline blares. "False information sends asylum-seeking Haitians to Canada," says The Globe & Mail.
Disturbingly, we've heard little from the actual government when it comes to correcting the record. And it's not like they've been shy in the past at correcting faulty information making its way onto the public record.
In January, the prime minister's office went out of its way to ask for a correction from Fox News Channel for one of their tweets that incorrectly identified the background of the suspect in the Quebec mosque shooting. But the PMO never wrote to The New York Times and other outlets to clarify the "open-door policy" error, which has more damaging repercussions.
The bureaucrats are clearly trying. The immigration and refugee department made a Facebook post over the weekend correcting messages circulating through WhatsApp and other online channels that claims the government is encouraging people to come here.
"In fact, the Government of Canada discourages people from entering Canada outside of designated ports of entry as it can be dangerous and is a violation of the law," the post reads.
It's been shared a measly 124 times. And immigration minister Ahmed Hussen, who's been near silent on the most pressing issue of his portfolio, did tweet out the link without any added comment.
But do you know whose tweet would garner way more than 124 shares? Justin Trudeau's. He's the brand. He's the megaphone. He's got the power to set the world straight.
Why doesn't he do it? What's the hold up?
Migrants have told reporters they're making the trek because they've been told Trudeau is welcoming them. The truth though, when it comes to this latest crop of arrivals originally from Haiti, is that there's a good chance they're just going to be sent back once their claims are processed. Why is Trudeau letting them enter under false pretenses largely of his own creation?
Sure, the Liberals campaigned on being open and progressive. Canadians took them up on that. But nobody, save for a handful of fringe activists, actually wants them to support open borders and sanctuary cities? Right? Please, tell me I'm right. Because, if not, we've got much bigger problems afoot.
Although right now it doesn't matter, because until Trudeau acts, Canada is already one giant sanctuary city.
Do we have any more Olympic Stadiums lying around? Because the first one's filling up fast.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/08/08/until-trudeau-acts-on-border-crisis-canada-is-basically-one-giant-sanctuary-city
I'm not holding my breath waiting for this sorry excuse for a pm to do what's right.