Title: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:35:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:35:59 PM
our in 10 Americans believe that "both sides" were equally responsible for the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend, indicating that President Trump's comments at a combative press conference earlier this week resonated with more of the public than expected. Another 46 percent of Americans believe that far-right groups were most responsible for the violence, the SurveyMonkey poll found, whereas just 9 percent believe counter-protesters are most to blame.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
This is how tolerant antifa fascists are of people like myself who don't share their intolerance.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:46:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2017, 07:46:05 PM
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You can't erase history.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 07:57:57 PM
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 07:57:57 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 19, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 19, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
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LMAO
If South woulda won man, we woulda been so much better off lol.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 19, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Post by: RW on August 19, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
The thing that also gets me is Martin Luther King was very clear - your message gets lost when you get violent. It's time to follow history again and follow the peaceful way.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 19, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
Post by: cc on August 19, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
All they do is harden those dumb twats they try to block ... increasing their will further and causing similar ilk to sympathise and sign on.
Added "publicity" always works that way
STUPID ... and it doesn't end with more hardened nazis ... it's worse ... the hard core of the protest protesters are simply violent anarchists growing in numbers also ... who will get progressively more violent as time goes on to achieve their "cause / power show of the moment"
Not to mention the danger created along with the added and otherwise unnecessary huge and costly police presence needed to keep them from attacking
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
Post by: kiebers on August 19, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
Stupidest thing I've ever seen is protest protesters. So counter productive.Quote from: "cc"
All they do is harder those dumb twats they try to block ... increasing their will further and causing similar ilk to sympathise and sign on.
Added "publicity" always works that way
STUPID ... and it doesn't end with more hardened nazis ... it's worse ... the hard core of the protest protesters are simply violent anarchists growing in numbers also ... who will get progressively more violent as time goes on to achieve their "cause / power show of the moment"
Not to mention the danger created along with the added and otherwise unnecessary huge and costly police presence needed to keep them from attacking
Like a snowball rolling down hill and gaining mass and momentum....idiots....
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 19, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Post by: RW on August 19, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Stupidest thing I've ever seen is protest protesters. So counter productive.Quote from: "cc"
All they do is harder those dumb twats they try to block ... increasing their will further and causing similar ilk to sympathise and sign on.
Added "publicity" always works that way
STUPID ... and it doesn't end with more hardened nazis ... it's worse ... the hard core of the protest protesters are simply violent anarchists growing in numbers also ... who will get progressively more violent as time goes on to achieve their "cause / power show of the moment"
Not to mention the danger created along with the added and otherwise unnecessary huge and costly police presence needed to keep them from attacking
Like a snowball rolling down hill and gaining mass and momentum....idiots....
I think it's hard for people not to react strongly when racists come to town. I'm not sure I wouldn't be out there wanting to kick their ass too but it gains stmpathizers and that is counterproductive.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2017, 02:42:21 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2017, 02:42:21 AM
Regardless of what you think about the stupid violence of Charlottetown, one side represents a dying, racist point of view. That's why these white supremacist POSes are getting told to fuck off and they should be told to fuck off.Quote from: "RW"
The thing that also gets me is Martin Luther King was very clear - your message gets lost when you get violent. It's time to follow history again and follow the peaceful way.
Fuck, you are stupid. A handful of poor, ostracized people with zero political influence is no more a threat to the US than Lyndon Larouche's theories becoming mainstream.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
Regardless of what you think about the stupid violence of Charlottetown, one side represents a dying, racist point of view. That's why these white supremacist POSes are getting told to fuck off and they should be told to fuck off.Quote from: "RW"
The thing that also gets me is Martin Luther King was very clear - your message gets lost when you get violent. It's time to follow history again and follow the peaceful way.
if HE IS SUCH AN EQUAL U GO SUCK HIS CAWK
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 20, 2017, 11:27:15 AM
Post by: RW on August 20, 2017, 11:27:15 AM
Regardless of what you think about the stupid violence of Charlottetown, one side represents a dying, racist point of view. That's why these white supremacist POSes are getting told to fuck off and they should be told to fuck off.Quote from: "RW"
The thing that also gets me is Martin Luther King was very clear - your message gets lost when you get violent. It's time to follow history again and follow the peaceful way.
Fuck, you are stupid. A handful of poor, ostracized people with zero political influence is no more a threat to the US than Lyndon Larouche's theories becoming mainstream.
What are you talking about? Who said they were a threat to the US?
Learn to read you fertilizer huffing motherfucker.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
:pop: It's on folks
Not, if the Ukrainian redneck runs out of bowel wash.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 11:55:24 PM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 20, 2017, 11:55:24 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 02:26:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 02:26:35 AM
:pop: It's on folks
Not, if the Ukrainian redneck runs out of bowel wash.
I'll take it over that Jinro soju piss.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 07:12:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 07:12:14 AM
:pop: It's on folks
Not, if the Ukrainian redneck runs out of bowel wash.
I'll take it over that Jinro soju piss.
Booze everyday is dead end.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 21, 2017, 08:51:08 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 21, 2017, 08:51:08 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 10:24:53 AM
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 10:24:53 AM
:pop: It's on folks
Not, if the Ukrainian redneck runs out of bowel wash.
I'll take it over that Jinro soju piss.
Booze everyday is dead end.
There's a lot of dead enders around here.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 21, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Post by: cc on August 21, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Houston Man Plotted Bomb Attack on Confederate Monument, Feds Say - Caught in act
HOUSTON – A 25-year-old man has been taken into custody for attempting to 'maliciously damage or destroy property receiving federal financial assistance', announced Acting U.S. Attorney Abe Martinez. The charges come after the FBI and ATF raided a home in Houston Sunday.
According to the complaint, on the evening of Aug. 19, 2017, a Houston park ranger observed Schneck kneeling among the bushes in front of the General Dowling Monument located in Hermann Park in Houston. Schneck was allegedly holding two small boxes with various items inside to include what appeared to be duct tape and wires.
After placing the boxes on the ground per the ranger's request, Schneck then allegedly took a drink from plastic bottle but immediately spit it on the ground. The ranger then noticed a timer and wires in the box and notified the Houston Police Department (HPD), according to the complaint.
The clear liquid was field tested as was a white powdery substance found in a small, black aluminum tube which revealed they were most likely nitroglycerin and Hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD), respectively, according to the charges. HMTD is a high explosive organic compound used as an initiating, or primary explosive.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 03:59:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 03:59:25 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 08:24:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 08:24:13 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 08:30:57 PM
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 08:30:57 PM
Nowhere has that happened in present day.
And I think those dumb racist asshats are finally starting to get the message.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 21, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 21, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 10:33:03 PM
Post by: RW on August 21, 2017, 10:33:03 PM
No matter how much we dislike their message and what they advocate, the supremacists had every right to rally because we are allowed our freedom of speech in this nation. Their opponents should have just let them be. It is also important for us to hear what the supremacists have to say so that we are well-informed as what exactly they are saying. I say this even though I am not a supporter of their cause.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Hate speech is illegal here and it seems to work out well that way because hate speech tends to result in violence.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 11:31:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2017, 11:31:02 PM
No matter how much we dislike their message and what they advocate, the supremacists had every right to rally because we are allowed our freedom of speech in this nation. Their opponents should have just let them be. It is also important for us to hear what the supremacists have to say so that we are well-informed as what exactly they are saying. I say this even though I am not a supporter of their cause.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
I agree the tiny extreme rightists should be free to speak without being physically attacked by a mad larger mob of violent anarchists. But, it's not important I listen to them. Watching the grass grow is more important to me than listening to the shrill whining of Scouse types.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 12:20:12 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 12:20:12 AM
So you just let racists walk through your streets chanting their hate shit and do nothing?Quote from: "RW"
Nowhere has that happened in present day.
And I think those dumb racist asshats are finally starting to get the message.
You don't really get it, do you?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:31:41 AM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:31:41 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 12:39:10 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 12:39:10 AM
Oh what don't I get? I've looked at it from all sides. I've been called a traitor and a racist while figuring it out. Same shit, different side.Quote from: "RW"
Look a little closer.
You won't see it, because you will never have to.
It's as simple as the "attack on the Straight White Male." It's as simple as that.
What this attack is creating, is a lot of frustrated straight white males, that ARE NOT Neo-Nazi's (most people don't even know what Hitler stood for, and would probably disagree with 90% of his ideologies today)...
The world is creating an Anti-White male world... And this has already started with feminism, and even before, so it's nothing new.
I warned of this becoming a problem, and as such it is. It will get worse.
Maybe Whitey has bent over enough for everyone else, and has pretty much had it not only becoming the slave, but also the taxpayer and the babysitter of his new masters. Sounds a little over the top? That seems to be exactly what 'they' want.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:40:58 AM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 12:40:58 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on August 22, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
You're having to share the wealth and you think it's an attack.Quote from: "RW"
Where is "share the wealth?"
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2017, 07:21:44 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2017, 07:21:44 AM
I agree the tiny extreme rightists should be free to speak without being physically attacked by a mad larger mob of violent anarchists. But, it's not important I listen to them. Watching the grass grow is more important to me than listening to the shrill whining of Scouse types.
There lies the problem. You are definitely entitled not to listen but trying to put out or quench the ranters will not silence or extinguish them. They will always exist. If you want to bring on change, the most powerful method is to lead by example.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 09:02:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 09:02:49 AM
I agree the tiny extreme rightists should be free to speak without being physically attacked by a mad larger mob of violent anarchists. But, it's not important I listen to them. Watching the grass grow is more important to me than listening to the shrill whining of Scouse types.
There lies the problem. You are definitely entitled not to listen but trying to put out or quench the ranters will not silence or extinguish them. They will always exist. If you want to bring on change, the most powerful method is to lead by example.
I think you and Velvet are saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 22, 2017, 09:07:30 AM
Post by: Blazor on August 22, 2017, 09:07:30 AM
Look a little closer.
You won't see it, because you will never have to.
It's as simple as the "attack on the Straight White Male." It's as simple as that.
What this attack is creating, is a lot of frustrated straight white males, that ARE NOT Neo-Nazi's (most people don't even know what Hitler stood for, and would probably disagree with 90% of his ideologies today)...
The world is creating an Anti-White male world... And this has already started with feminism, and even before, so it's nothing new.
I warned of this becoming a problem, and as such it is. It will get worse.
Maybe Whitey has bent over enough for everyone else, and has pretty much had it not only becoming the slave, but also the taxpayer and the babysitter of his new masters. Sounds a little over the top? That seems to be exactly what 'they' want.
You're eyes are open my friend! I've known of this as well ever since pizza delivery days lol.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 09:31:05 AM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 09:31:05 AM
I agree the tiny extreme rightists should be free to speak without being physically attacked by a mad larger mob of violent anarchists. But, it's not important I listen to them. Watching the grass grow is more important to me than listening to the shrill whining of Scouse types.
There lies the problem. You are definitely entitled not to listen but trying to put out or quench the ranters will not silence or extinguish them. They will always exist. If you want to bring on change, the most powerful method is to lead by example.
If they will always exist and there are so few of them, why listen to them at all? They seem to be the tail end of a dying breed.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 09:34:12 AM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 09:34:12 AM
You're having to share the wealth and you think it's an attack.Quote from: "RW"
Where is "share the wealth?"
See you white males ran around dominating everything and everyone. Now balance is being restored (nature loves equilibrium) and you white makes can't handle it because it doesn't put you at the top.
The pendulum usually swings hard in the opposite direction before it settles so expect more of this white boys.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 22, 2017, 12:51:48 PM
Post by: kiebers on August 22, 2017, 12:51:48 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 01:05:29 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 01:05:29 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
White females will be next.....Quote from: "kiebers"
Why not. They have the same collective guilt you white dudes do.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 22, 2017, 03:22:33 PM
Post by: cc on August 22, 2017, 03:22:33 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 03:33:27 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 03:33:27 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
Here we see history repeating itself except antifa are the fucking goons breaking up small demonstrations by "delusional goofs who couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery."
George Lincoln Rockwell's ambitions were undiminished by reality.Quote
He wanted to be the American Fuhrer.
A despot who would rid the United States of blacks, Jews and their commie fellow-traveling supporters.
The 49-year-old fanatic had spent years building the American Nazi Party but all around there were traitors, cannibals ready to eat the emperor of the new order.
On Aug. 25, 1967, outside the Econo-wash laundromat in Arlington, Virginia where Rockwell was doing his laundry a killer lay in wait.
Witness Ruby Pierce, 60, later told the Washington Star Rockwell was a "tall, charming man" who had forgotten his bleach.
Then: Bang! Bang!
Lying dead on the street in a pond of his poisonous blood alongside his 1958 Chevrolet was the American Nazi.
"I am not surprised at all," his father George told reporters. "I've expected it for quite some time."
The man who wanted to be the American incarnation of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler is largely forgotten now, except possibly for viewers of Amazon's Man in the High Castle. In the series, New York City's airport is called Lincoln Rockwell.
But during the 1960s, the racist Rockwell was well known as a hater par excellence.
Like many Americans, Rockwell — a decorated career navy man — found the anti-communist crusade of the time an intoxicating elixir.
However, the malicious mixologist added a large dollop of racism to his insidious cocktail of bile and in 1959 founded the American Nazi Party.
Corn-cob pipe smoking Rockwell spewed his personal sewer in hate tracts, speeches and books.
"This time we'll hate, alright — but we'll hate the ENEMY — the vicious gang of coloured scum attackers and Jewish-Communist traitors — rather than one part of our own people hating another part for the benefit of the Jews and their army of SCUM!," Rockwell opined in White Self-Hate: Master-Stroke Of The Enemy.
In an interview with famed Roots author Alex Haley for Playboy shortly before his death, Rockwell suggested that blacks were inferior and should probably go back to Africa.
These twisted views were typical.
"I don't believe for one minute that any six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler. It never happened," Rockwell told Haley.
Soon, Rockwell had a rag-tag band of followers —dressed in brown uniforms adorned with swastika armbands — who broke up civil rights demonstrationsand peddled hate from one end of the U.S. to the other.
In the spirit of the times, Rockwell even established Hatenanny Records (a play on folk music gatherings known as a hootenanny).
His low-rent stormtroopers and their "fuhrer" hit the road in their so-called Hate Bus pushing the nauseating records and their White Power message.
Hitmakers like Odis Cochran and the Three Bigots sang Ship Those N****** Back.
Yet, despite his terrifying message, the FBI considered Rockwell a joke, a delusional goof who couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
The FBI report read: "Lincoln Rockwell is an egocentric and a chronic failure who created the shabby, small-time enterprise which he named the American Nazi Party in order to abate his tormenting ambitions to achieve fame. Carrying the war-tattered banner of a vanquished enemy the world would like to forget, Rockwell leads his heterogeneous 'army' against an imaginary 'Zionist conspiracy.' Distasteful costumes, contemptible slogans, and disruptive tactics have brought national attention to Rockwell, inflating him and his group far beyond their due."
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 22, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
Post by: kiebers on August 22, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 05:27:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 05:27:23 PM
I have no guilt at all what so ever....Quote from: "kiebers"
And you shouldn't either. Nobody today should be held accountable for injustices of the past that they had no role in. But, nutjobs who rewrite history for brainwashed tards like Scouse have no shame, empathy or honesty.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 07:59:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2017, 07:59:06 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 22, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
If they will always exist and there are so few of them, why listen to them at all? They seem to be the tail end of a dying breed.
You forget that they are allowed to rant and rally because our democracy allows them to. If they are a dying breed then let them die their natural death.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 11:11:24 PM
Post by: RW on August 22, 2017, 11:11:24 PM
If they will always exist and there are so few of them, why listen to them at all? They seem to be the tail end of a dying breed.
You forget that they are allowed to rant and rally because our democracy allows them to. If they are a dying breed then let them die their natural death.
Of course they are allowed but that doesn't ran their platform has any merit.
I have no problem with them receiving the widespread and massive opposition they have faced at every demonstration. We should object to the objectionable...just without violence.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Angry White Male on August 23, 2017, 02:29:52 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on August 23, 2017, 02:29:52 AM
See you white males ran around dominating everything and everyone. Now balance is being restored (nature loves equilibrium) and you white makes can't handle it because it doesn't put you at the top.Quote from: "RW"
The pendulum usually swings hard in the opposite direction before it settles so expect more of this white boys.
Are you fucking stupid?
I work alongside your ilk in Burnaby... since Wops are in construction.
There's no fucking wonder your Mother beat you... You're a disgrace.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Angry White Male on August 23, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on August 23, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
For those that don't know, the Wops and the Krauts always got along here...
RW fled for a reason, which is unusual for a Wop...
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 23, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on August 23, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 11:57:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 11:57:38 AM
If they will always exist and there are so few of them, why listen to them at all? They seem to be the tail end of a dying breed.
You forget that they are allowed to rant and rally because our democracy allows them to.If they are a dying breed then let them die their natural death.
Precisely Azhya..
It's the antifa thugs that are growing and represent a threat to our democracy and liberty.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:02:53 PM
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:02:53 PM
"They come because they care about racism"
One way to make sure they don't replicate
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:06:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:06:15 PM
Here's one last night came c / w gas mask to do battle .. aw, the sweet taste of justiceQuote from: "cc"
What is going on in North America?
This is the kind of undemocratic madness my father experienced when he and fellow democracy advocates protested against Chiang Kai Shek's dictatorial regime in the late sixties and early seventies.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:10:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:10:08 PM
Phoenix - last nightQuote from: "cc"
How dare they speak.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:42:56 PM
Post by: cc on August 23, 2017, 12:42:56 PM
these have no cause beyond creating chaos & showing / growing their power
and to grow anarchy / their own kind of tyranny "instead of" democracy ... ... attempting ONLY to prevent others from speaking
= AGAINST democracy .. and against free speech of others .. . AND not above attacking cops when they have the opportunity
calling them "a gang of thugs" is being gentle on this bunch
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:58:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 12:58:08 PM
Aw, but your dad had a good cause "against tyranny" and FOR democracyQuote from: "cc"
these have no cause beyond creating chaos & showing / growing their power
and to grow anarchy / their own kind of tyranny "instead of" democracy ... ... attempting ONLY to prevent others from speaking
= AGAINST democracy .. and against free speech of others .. . AND not above attacking cops when they have the opportunity
calling them "a gang of thugs" is being gentle on this bunch
Also, I don't recall my father ever saying he threw urine filled balloons at anyone because he didn't like what they had to say.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 23, 2017, 01:40:23 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 23, 2017, 01:40:23 PM
What is going on in North America?
ac_wot
This is the kind of undemocratic madness my father experienced when he and fellow democracy advocates protested against Chiang Kai Shek's dictatorial regime in the late sixties and early seventies.
From my family to your family
My great great grandfather fought in the Civil war against tyranny. His father I believe it was fought in the Revolutionary war against tryanny. I have a picture on my wall of my family back in 1890 or so. I've looked up records, I "think" I got them right as far as Greats lol.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 02:35:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 02:35:14 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 23, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 23, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
Hate speech is illegal here and it seems to work out well that way because hate speech tends to result in violence.
I conclude that this hate speech you are referring to is speech you hate.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 23, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 23, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Hate speech is illegal here and it seems to work out well that way because hate speech tends to result in violence.
I conclude that this hate speech you are referring to is speech you hate.
:001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
Hate speech is illegal here and it seems to work out well that way because hate speech tends to result in violence.
I conclude that this hate speech you are referring to is speech you hate.
:001_rolleyes:
Antifa is violent to anyone they disagree with..
Something really needs to be done about them.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Thiel on August 23, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
Post by: Thiel on August 23, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 23, 2017, 10:31:56 PM
Post by: RW on August 23, 2017, 10:31:56 PM
Hate speech is illegal here and it seems to work out well that way because hate speech tends to result in violence.
I conclude that this hate speech you are referring to is speech you hate.
:001_rolleyes:
Hate speech is defined legally here as any speech calling for violence or genocide against a person or group based on race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, etc.
But yes, I HATE racism. Don't you?
That said, being a racist isn't illegal nor should it be as long as violence isn't being advocated against a group.
I'm really surprised by the response to blatant and disgusting racist rhetoric against blacks, Jews, etc, given how many of you are not white. I understand not supporting violence but why does it seem like I am the only one who is denouncing the message of neo nazis?
Very strange.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 23, 2017, 10:34:37 PM
Post by: RW on August 23, 2017, 10:34:37 PM
I put the blame for the violence entirely on the anarchists.Quote from: "Thiel"
An alt-right piece of shit ran over people with his car from behind, killing a woman.
Blame the victim much?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Thiel on August 23, 2017, 10:49:50 PM
Post by: Thiel on August 23, 2017, 10:49:50 PM
I put the blame for the violence entirely on the anarchists.Quote from: "Thiel"
An alt-right piece of shit ran over people with his car from behind, killing a woman.
Blame the victim much?
She's a victim of antifa initiating violence as they do everywhere. If you are looking for pieces of shit to blame, they are your guys.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 08:59:05 AM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 08:59:05 AM
Hate speech is defined legally here as any speech calling for violence or genocide against a person or group based on race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, etc.
But yes, I HATE racism. Don't you?
That said, being a racist isn't illegal nor should it be as long as violence isn't being advocated against a group.
I'm really surprised by the response to blatant and disgusting racist rhetoric against blacks, Jews, etc, given how many of you are not white. I understand not supporting violence but why does it seem like I am the only one who is denouncing the message of neo nazis?
Very strange.
No one likes racism RW. Have you ever thought some of these "racists" were either raised that way, something terrible happened to them that made them that way, it is their belief, or maybe its a mental issue. A number of possibilities. As long as there is no violence, and they have the freedom of speech, they deserve to speak, and have that right. These folks were not allowed to speak, and violence was brought to their door, not the other way around. Had Antifa not showed up armed with projectiles of filth and pain, aiming hate at people who there rightfully to speak, this would have never escalated the way it did.
It seems you are the only one that doesnt see the other side, and are blinded by the media's portrayal of "racism" from these folks. Not all of them were racists.
I like you RW, but I dont like that you cant see, and want to throw the "racists" under the bus the same way the media is doing. "Time to put your glasses on" comes to mind
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 09:07:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 09:07:09 AM
Those violent anarchists would hate Seoul or Shen Li and preventthem from giving their two cents on economic issues..
Or me too because I'm a Christian..
In my city, the broke up a peaceful gathering at city hall with brown shirt like tactics..
We have been too accommodating of this grave danger to our democracy.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 09:16:18 AM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 09:16:18 AM
Antifa doesn't just hate racism as they claim..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Those violent anarchists would hate Seoul or Shen Li and preventthem from giving their two cents on economic issues..
Or me too because I'm a Christian..
In my city, the broke up a peaceful gathering at city hall with brown shirt like tactics..
We have been too accommodating of this grave danger to our democracy.
Most of them cant even be religious, cause the book says "do not judge others, or you will be judged before Me".
I agree, WAY to accommodating. But the more the media holds them in the light, the stronger they will get. Trump needs to say fuck the haters and PC crap, and oust them for who they are. He won his presidency based on not being too PC. Like Obama, was a lot of talk before elected, then changed once in office. Does the CIA do some kind of MK Ultra on elected presidents lol? Or is it just all a charade, forced on us by the Elites, seeing how the majority of presidents are linked to the same blood line. Still glad it wasnt Hiliar elected, I can see how this would of been had it been her in office.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 09:21:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 09:21:08 AM
Antifa reminds her of Chiang Kai Shek's bullies who broke up demonstrations against his dictatorship forty five years ago..
They are a really scary bunch and the police and politicians are reluctant to enforce the law and denounce in the strongest of language their intolerant violence..
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: kiebers on August 24, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
Post by: kiebers on August 24, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
Hate speech is defined legally here as any speech calling for violence or genocide against a person or group based on race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, etc.
But yes, I HATE racism. Don't you?
That said, being a racist isn't illegal nor should it be as long as violence isn't being advocated against a group.
I'm really surprised by the response to blatant and disgusting racist rhetoric against blacks, Jews, etc, given how many of you are not white. I understand not supporting violence but why does it seem like I am the only one who is denouncing the message of neo nazis?
Very strange.
No one likes racism RW. Have you ever thought some of these "racists" were either raised that way, something terrible happened to them that made them that way, it is their belief, or maybe its a mental issue. A number of possibilities. As long as there is no violence, and they have the freedom of speech, they deserve to speak, and have that right. These folks were not allowed to speak, and violence was brought to their door, not the other way around. Had Antifa not showed up armed with projectiles of filth and pain, aiming hate at people who there rightfully to speak, this would have never escalated the way it did.
It seems you are the only one that doesnt see the other side, and are blinded by the media's portrayal of "racism" from these folks. Not all of them were racists.
I like you RW, but I dont like that you cant see, and want to throw the "racists" under the bus the same way the media is doing. "Time to put your glasses on" comes to mindac_cool (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%22%3Ehttps://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%22%3Ehttps://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
:laugh:
Throw racists under the bus? They should be thrown under buses! In fact, we had an incident here in Vancouver on the skytrain where a woman went off on an Asian couple. She got put in her place quickly. That's how it should be.
You guys talk about the violence of AntiFa and I've denounced it. You talk about freedom of speech, and I've supported it within the law. But Blazor, it wasn't AntiFa that took away a woman's freedom of speech FOREVER. Are you intentionally ignoring that fact?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
The fascism of the 'anti-fascists' on display
To some fevered minds in the punditocracy the, ahem, "anti-fascist" demonstrators in Quebec City last weekend were like our Allied forces storming the beaches of Normandy to take on Hitler.Quote
Odd, but I don't recall our World War II vets, having defeated Nazism, returning home to attack police with smoke bombs, fireworks and glass bottles.
Nor do I recall them assaulting journalists.
But that's what happened to a Global TV news crew last Sunday afternoon in Quebec City, there to cover the dueling protests between a far-right, anti-immigration group called La Meute ("The Pack") and, ahem, "anti-fascist" counter protesters.
As Global made clear in its story headlined, "Quebec City protests: anti-fascist protesters clash with police" --the violence came from one side only, the so-called "anti-fascists".
At 2:15 pm, Global reporter Dan Spector tweeted, "Quebec police have just declared the protest illegal. Antifa (anti-fascists) are shooting fireworks and smoke bombs."
At 3:40 pm, Spector tweeted: "Protestors wearing black with their faces covered smashed (Global cameraman Jean-Vincent Verveille's) camera."
At 5:28 pm, Global reporter Mike Armstrong, shoved down some stairs by the "anti-fascists", tweeted: "Great shots in our story tonight by colleague JV (Jean-Vincent Verveille). He took some great stuff until his cam was spiked like a football by masked protestors."
At 5:48 pm., Armstrong tweeted: "On the masked figures that assaulted us today ... It was a violent faction of anti-racists. La Meute hasn't even come out of the garage (where it initially gathered) yet."
Following these unprovoked assaults on its news crew by the, ahem, "anti-fascists", Global News Senior VP Troy Reeb issued the following statement:
"We are disgusted and outraged by today's unprovoked attack on a Global News crew covering demonstrations in Quebec City. While we are relieved that our journalists were not seriously hurt,Canadians should be concerned by this threat against the working of a free press. Our team was there to provide independent coverage and transparency as events unfolded – a goal clearly not shared by the thugs who shielded their identities in the commission of violence."
One would have hoped more media pundits, who think about stuff a lot as opposed to covering the news like working journalists, would have joined Reeb in expressing solidarity with Global's news crew and in condemning the so-called "anti-fascist" demonstrators who attacked them.
Alas, many were too busy writing painfully stupid columns arguing the anti-fascist protesters are defending democracy, while the fascist protesters want to establish a racist, totalitarian state.
In the real world, the fascist protesters are human scum, but the anti-fascists who violently engage them are no better.Many of these "anti-fascists" are anarchists,others have no idea what they want, and all would, I guarantee you, be as bad as the fascists if they ever controlled the levers of power.
By contrast, our World War II vets fought and died to defend democracy and defeat totalitarianism.
They believed in the rule of law and that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
They defeated tyranny and returned home, where their loved ones had sacrificed along with them, to build a better life for their children. They were our greatest generation.
To compare them to these so-called "anti-fascist" thugs on the streets not just of Quebec, but everywhere, is to insult their honour and their memory.http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/08/23/the-fascism-of-the-anti-fascists-on-display
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 01:03:37 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 01:03:37 PM
Masked, violent,intolerant anarchists have journalists in their crosshairs nowQuote from: "Shen Li"
The fascism of the 'anti-fascists' on displayTo some fevered minds in the punditocracy the, ahem, "anti-fascist" demonstrators in Quebec City last weekend were like our Allied forces storming the beaches of Normandy to take on Hitler.Quote
Odd, but I don't recall our World War II vets, having defeated Nazism, returning home to attack police with smoke bombs, fireworks and glass bottles.
Nor do I recall them assaulting journalists.
But that's what happened to a Global TV news crew last Sunday afternoon in Quebec City, there to cover the dueling protests between a far-right, anti-immigration group called La Meute ("The Pack") and, ahem, "anti-fascist" counter protesters.
As Global made clear in its story headlined, "Quebec City protests: anti-fascist protesters clash with police" --the violence came from one side only, the so-called "anti-fascists".
At 2:15 pm, Global reporter Dan Spector tweeted, "Quebec police have just declared the protest illegal. Antifa (anti-fascists) are shooting fireworks and smoke bombs."
At 3:40 pm, Spector tweeted: "Protestors wearing black with their faces covered smashed (Global cameraman Jean-Vincent Verveille's) camera."
At 5:28 pm, Global reporter Mike Armstrong, shoved down some stairs by the "anti-fascists", tweeted: "Great shots in our story tonight by colleague JV (Jean-Vincent Verveille). He took some great stuff until his cam was spiked like a football by masked protestors."
At 5:48 pm., Armstrong tweeted: "On the masked figures that assaulted us today ... It was a violent faction of anti-racists. La Meute hasn't even come out of the garage (where it initially gathered) yet."
Following these unprovoked assaults on its news crew by the, ahem, "anti-fascists", Global News Senior VP Troy Reeb issued the following statement:
"We are disgusted and outraged by today's unprovoked attack on a Global News crew covering demonstrations in Quebec City. While we are relieved that our journalists were not seriously hurt,Canadians should be concerned by this threat against the working of a free press. Our team was there to provide independent coverage and transparency as events unfolded – a goal clearly not shared by the thugs who shielded their identities in the commission of violence."
One would have hoped more media pundits, who think about stuff a lot as opposed to covering the news like working journalists, would have joined Reeb in expressing solidarity with Global's news crew and in condemning the so-called "anti-fascist" demonstrators who attacked them.
Alas, many were too busy writing painfully stupid columns arguing the anti-fascist protesters are defending democracy, while the fascist protesters want to establish a racist, totalitarian state.
In the real world, the fascist protesters are human scum, but the anti-fascists who violently engage them are no better.Many of these "anti-fascists" are anarchists,others have no idea what they want, and all would, I guarantee you, be as bad as the fascists if they ever controlled the levers of power.
By contrast, our World War II vets fought and died to defend democracy and defeat totalitarianism.
They believed in the rule of law and that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
They defeated tyranny and returned home, where their loved ones had sacrificed along with them, to build a better life for their children. They were our greatest generation.
To compare them to these so-called "anti-fascist" thugs on the streets not just of Quebec, but everywhere, is to insult their honour and their memory.http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/08/23/the-fascism-of-the-anti-fascists-on-display
I have yet to see someone on this board support AntiFa.
Now where's the outrage at the blatant and vile bigotry and racism purported by the alt-right? Someone DIED in Virginia at the hands of a neo nazi.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Besides Scouser, nobody here agrees with the alt right. However, as fucked as their opinions are they do not cause the violence, disruption and burden on emergency services that those cowardly, masked antifa POS thugs do. Let's be honest for a change,they are urban terrorists that we tacitly tolerate. It's this tolerance for intolerance by the Charlottesville police that caused a death. Not that antifa gives a shit. Collateral damage as far as those animals are concerned.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
Hate speech is defined legally here as any speech calling for violence or genocide against a person or group based on race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, etc.
But yes, I HATE racism. Don't you?
That said, being a racist isn't illegal nor should it be as long as violence isn't being advocated against a group.
I'm really surprised by the response to blatant and disgusting racist rhetoric against blacks, Jews, etc, given how many of you are not white. I understand not supporting violence but why does it seem like I am the only one who is denouncing the message of neo nazis?
Very strange.
No one likes racism RW. Have you ever thought some of these "racists" were either raised that way, something terrible happened to them that made them that way, it is their belief, or maybe its a mental issue. A number of possibilities. As long as there is no violence, and they have the freedom of speech, they deserve to speak, and have that right. These folks were not allowed to speak, and violence was brought to their door, not the other way around. Had Antifa not showed up armed with projectiles of filth and pain, aiming hate at people who there rightfully to speak, this would have never escalated the way it did.
It seems you are the only one that doesnt see the other side, and are blinded by the media's portrayal of "racism" from these folks. Not all of them were racists.
I like you RW, but I dont like that you cant see, and want to throw the "racists" under the bus the same way the media is doing. "Time to put your glasses on" comes to mindac_cool (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%22%3Ehttps://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%22%3Ehttps://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
:laugh:
Throw racists under the bus? They should be thrown under buses! In fact, we had an incident here in Vancouver on the skytrain where a woman went off on an Asian couple. She got put in her place quickly. That's how it should be.
You guys talk about the violence of AntiFa and I've denounced it. You talk about freedom of speech, and I've supported it within the law. But Blazor, it wasn't AntiFa that took away a woman's freedom of speech FOREVER. Are you intentionally ignoring that fact?
You missed my point that these people have different beliefs. Just like Christianity vs Islam vs Buddhism, etc. Those people still have rights. If someone decides to be racist, shame on them, and thats good that one skytrain woman got put in her place, but they still have their own beliefs and rights. Or perhaps it was one of the other things that I mentioned, a mental disorder, like the guy that ran over that woman. I dont think mentally disturbed people should be thrown under buses, instead should receive proper treatment. (maybe this guy though should get a harsh punishment)
Oh I know it wasnt Antifa, but if not for Antifa she would still be alive. Im not intentionally ignoring that fact, that was the worst thing of that day. But it was an individual from Ohio that was mentally disturbed with a history of it. It wasnt "the racists", one man only.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 24, 2017, 02:09:17 PM
Post by: cc on August 24, 2017, 02:09:17 PM
As for "denouncing the message of neo nazis?" she needs told that she does not hold the patent on that.
OK. I'll do it. "You do not hold the patent on that"
In a real world with real people, said once covers it ... Saying something "more often" than others does a saint make
Anyhow, as you made clear Blaze, Nazis are of little effect in the overall and certainly are not the coming / rapidly growing serious problem for society.
You have also made clear that Antifa .. Fascits Inc. appears to be rapidly growing into a serious and too real problem .. grabbing onto ANY convenient "cause du jour" (while not necessarily caring a wit about it) to grow and show their rapidly increasing power, rapidly increasing intimidation via threat of violence and rapidly increasing actual violence
The page has turned!!!
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
RW, yank your head out of your ass.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Besides Scouser, nobody here agrees with the alt right. However, as fucked as their opinions are they do not cause the violence, disruption and burden on emergency services that those cowardly, masked antifa POS thugs do. Let's be honest for a change,they are urban terrorists that we tacitly tolerate. It's this tolerance for intolerance by the Charlottesville police that caused a death. Not that antifa gives a shit. Collateral damage as far as those animals are concerned.
Are you fucking kidding me Shen? How can you say that when one of them just MURDERED a woman and injured many more? How can you say that in the face of reports like this?
"Nine per cent of Americans say holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views is acceptable, according to a new poll."
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Hate speech is defined legally here as any speech calling for violence or genocide against a person or group based on race, religion, creed, gender, sexuality, etc.
But yes, I HATE racism. Don't you?
That said, being a racist isn't illegal nor should it be as long as violence isn't being advocated against a group.
I'm really surprised by the response to blatant and disgusting racist rhetoric against blacks, Jews, etc, given how many of you are not white. I understand not supporting violence but why does it seem like I am the only one who is denouncing the message of neo nazis?
Very strange.
No one likes racism RW. Have you ever thought some of these "racists" were either raised that way, something terrible happened to them that made them that way, it is their belief, or maybe its a mental issue. A number of possibilities. As long as there is no violence, and they have the freedom of speech, they deserve to speak, and have that right. These folks were not allowed to speak, and violence was brought to their door, not the other way around. Had Antifa not showed up armed with projectiles of filth and pain, aiming hate at people who there rightfully to speak, this would have never escalated the way it did.
It seems you are the only one that doesnt see the other side, and are blinded by the media's portrayal of "racism" from these folks. Not all of them were racists.
I like you RW, but I dont like that you cant see, and want to throw the "racists" under the bus the same way the media is doing. "Time to put your glasses on" comes to mindac_cool (//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%22%3Ehttps://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/Q94UC3.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%22%3Ehttps://media.giphy.com/media/uA3HaPHTCyHQc/giphy.gif%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
:laugh:
Throw racists under the bus? They should be thrown under buses! In fact, we had an incident here in Vancouver on the skytrain where a woman went off on an Asian couple. She got put in her place quickly. That's how it should be.
You guys talk about the violence of AntiFa and I've denounced it. You talk about freedom of speech, and I've supported it within the law. But Blazor, it wasn't AntiFa that took away a woman's freedom of speech FOREVER. Are you intentionally ignoring that fact?
You missed my point that these people have different beliefs. Just like Christianity vs Islam vs Buddhism, etc. Those people still have rights. If someone decides to be racist, shame on them, and thats good that one skytrain woman got put in her place, but they still have their own beliefs and rights. Or perhaps it was one of the other things that I mentioned, a mental disorder, like the guy that ran over that woman. I dont think mentally disturbed people should be thrown under buses, instead should receive proper treatment. (maybe this guy though should get a harsh punishment)
Oh I know it wasnt Antifa, but if not for Antifa she would still be alive. Im not intentionally ignoring that fact, that was the worst thing of that day. But it was an individual from Ohio that was mentally disturbed with a history of it. It wasnt "the racists", one man only.
How did I miss the point when I've condemned AntiFa numerous times? I have condemn violence at protests? I've qualified support of free speech.
You cannot condemn one group for a violent interaction while allowing it from another. It's NEVER going to fly with me. Sorry.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:24:42 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:24:42 PM
You are not talking to a listener ... or you would not be still having to say itQuote from: "cc"
As for "denouncing the message of neo nazis?" she needs told that she does not hold the patent on that.
OK. I'll do it. "You do not hold the patent on that"
In a real world with real people, said once covers it ... Saying something "more often" than others does a saint make
Anyhow, as you made clear Blaze, Nazis are of little effect and certainly not the coming / growing serious problem for society.
You have also made clear that Antifa .. Fascits Inc. appears to be rapidly growing into a serious and too real problem .. grabbing onto ANY convenient "cause du jour" (while not necessarily caring a wit about it) to grow and show their increasing power, threat of violence and actual violence
I'm not talking to a literate bunch given I keep having to repeat my condemnation of AntiFa while watching you guys say sweet fuck all about the underlying issue of racism and bigotry. Justifying the death of a protestor is just wrong and if it was an Islamist driving that car, you'd be on it like flies on shit.
Hypocrisy noted once again.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 24, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
Post by: cc on August 24, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
Just a wild guess
In the overall scheme of things, nazis are a dying breed of nobodies
There's a new, rapidly growing and deadly game in town
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
I have no idea what those say, prolly more of the sameQuote from: "cc"
Just a wild guess:wink: , it's appropriate to say ... the "page has turned" .
There's a new, rapidly growing and deadly game in town
And we need to squash it ASAP.
There seems to be this attitude that something is right or wrong based on whether you agree with those committing the acts or not. That is dangerous thinking. It's not ok to physically attack people - PERIOD. It doesn't matter the cause.
Taking sides in an unnecessary violent conflict like this is stupidity personified. Both these groups should be condemned for their behaviour. Threats issued for more violence between them should be taken as legally serious and dealt with swiftly and appropriately like throwing some of these organizers in jail for inciting hatred.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:36:57 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 02:36:57 PM
In the overall scheme of things, nazis are a dying breed of nobodiesQuote
Thankfully that's true but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be opposed on mass when the couple hundred of them show up. It sends a message to the ones who didn't turn out that racism isn't okay. We can't say that enough frankly (without violence!)
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 05:34:39 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 05:34:39 PM
I find both the alt right and alt left's views nuts. But, the alt left covers their faces, and uses violence to stop people they disagree from expressing themselves. That makes them a much bigger danger than the alt right. Not to mention their numbers are a lot larger than the alt right.Quote from: "seoulbro"
How many people have the alt-left killed at rallies?
I don't disagree with you and I've said more than once they are opposite sides of the same coin. That doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out against hatred and racism.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 06:25:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 06:25:37 PM
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
In Charlottesville, alt righters applied for and received from the city a permit to hold their rally in the park, and were quietly holding their demonstration when antifa and BLM showed up. I wonder who came to fight.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
You are incorrect sir.
BLM and AntiFa had city rally permits that day. Technically the Alt-Righters didn't have a permit because the city wouldn't give them one for that park. They sought a court injunction and won the right to protest in their desired location. They did so on a court injunction, not a permit.
They both came to fight. The righties were armed to the tits and many videos have been released saying they were ready for a fight. The left came armed and ready to fight. These groups clash regularly.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:20:15 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:20:15 PM
You are not talking to a listener ... or you would not be still having to say itQuote from: "cc"
As for "denouncing the message of neo nazis?" she needs told that she does not hold the patent on that.
OK. I'll do it. "You do not hold the patent on that"
In a real world with real people, said once covers it ... Saying something "more often" than others does a saint make
Anyhow, as you made clear Blaze, Nazis are of little effect in the overall and certainly are not the coming / rapidly growing serious problem for society.
You have also made clear that Antifa .. Fascits Inc. appears to be rapidly growing into a serious and too real problem .. grabbing onto ANY convenient "cause du jour" (while not necessarily caring a wit about it) to grow and show their rapidly increasing power, rapidly increasing intimidation via threat of violence and rapidly increasing actual violence
The page has turned!!!
The page has turned!
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:28:52 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:28:52 PM
I find both the alt right and alt left's views nuts. But, the alt left covers their faces, and uses violence to stop people they disagree from expressing themselves. That makes them a much bigger danger than the alt right. Not to mention their numbers are a lot larger than the alt right.Quote from: "seoulbro"
How many people have the alt-left killed at rallies?
I don't disagree with you and I've said more than once they are opposite sides of the same coin. That doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out against hatred and racism.
I dont know how many in total, but I do know they killed some cops at a previous rally.
I agree, its totally ok to speak out on racism, but you dont intentionally swarm a rally that someone else wants to speak at armed with piss, shit, and rocks.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:39:35 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 07:39:35 PM
In Charlottesville, alt righters applied for and received from the city a permit to hold their rally in the park, and were quietly holding their demonstration when antifa and BLM showed up. I wonder who came to fight.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
You are incorrect sir.
BLM and AntiFa had city rally permits that day. Technically the Alt-Righters didn't have a permit because the city wouldn't give them one for that park. They sought a court injunction and won the right to protest in their desired location. They did so on a court injunction, not a permit.
They both came to fight. The righties were armed to the tits and many videos have been released saying they were ready for a fight. The left came armed and ready to fight. These groups clash regularly.
To a degree you're both wrong
Iron Horse, you are mostly right, but they didnt even get to hold their demonstration. They were corralled to the area while being attacked, and once there, the judge pulled the permit at the 11th hour. The speaker never even got to speak. They had the actual speaking area fenced off and guarded by the cops. So they were trapped in between the Antifa thugs, and the law. Of course they didnt fight the law, unlike what the Antifa is known to do, or kill them.
RW, they did get their permit, but they had to fight for the location. They had already got the permit for that area then Antifa and BLM got permits for 2 nearby parks. Thats when the judge wanted to move the white group. Thats when they had to fight for it. Totally wrong in my opinion considering the statue they were protesting coming down was at the park they originally got the permit for. Then as Antifa and BLM matters were overfilling the area, before the speaker even got there, the permit was pulled.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
I find both the alt right and alt left's views nuts. But, the alt left covers their faces, and uses violence to stop people they disagree from expressing themselves. That makes them a much bigger danger than the alt right. Not to mention their numbers are a lot larger than the alt right.Quote from: "seoulbro"
I would be more worried about the alt left than any other fringe group that takes to the street to make the public aware of their cause.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2017, 08:42:21 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 24, 2017, 08:42:21 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 08:46:52 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 08:46:52 PM
I find both the alt right and alt left's views nuts. But, the alt left covers their faces, and uses violence to stop people they disagree from expressing themselves. That makes them a much bigger danger than the alt right. Not to mention their numbers are a lot larger than the alt right.Quote from: "seoulbro"
How many people have the alt-left killed at rallies?
I don't disagree with you and I've said more than once they are opposite sides of the same coin. That doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out against hatred and racism.
I dont know how many in total, but I do know they killed some cops at a previous rally.
I agree, its totally ok to speak out on racism, but you dont intentionally swarm a rally that someone else wants to speak at armed with piss, shit, and rocks.
They had their own rallies booked, eh. And you know the alt-rightards showed up with GUNS right?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 08:48:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 08:48:57 PM
I feel the same way about white supremacists rallying as I do about gay parades. Not necessary. They are all parading messages that many don't agree with. They all do not need to rally and parade but it's obvious they will never stop because of how strongly they believe in their cause, ideology, preferences. My wish that they don't rally and parade will never be fulfilled. These groups have a stage and they will be heard. They will rally and parade no matter what. So, I just ignore them and let them be. Why should I waste my time to try and extinguish their rallies and parades when I know they will always do it no matter what anyone thinks? How arrogant of me to think I can silence them.Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
We had a rally at city hall in Calgary recently by the Soldiers of Odin..
While they are not explicitly racist, I would never attend..
I would never be in attendance at any overtly political public gathering..
That's not to say, there are not issues that are important to me..
But, pushing one's political ideology in the public's face is not something I appreciate, so I wouldn't do that to anyone else.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
In Charlottesville, alt righters applied for and received from the city a permit to hold their rally in the park, and were quietly holding their demonstration when antifa and BLM showed up. I wonder who came to fight.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
You are incorrect sir.
BLM and AntiFa had city rally permits that day. Technically the Alt-Righters didn't have a permit because the city wouldn't give them one for that park. They sought a court injunction and won the right to protest in their desired location. They did so on a court injunction, not a permit.
They both came to fight. The righties were armed to the tits and many videos have been released saying they were ready for a fight. The left came armed and ready to fight. These groups clash regularly.
To a degree you're both wrong:laugh:
Iron Horse, you are mostly right, but they didnt even get to hold their demonstration. They were corralled to the area while being attacked, and once there, the judge pulled the permit at the 11th hour. The speaker never even got to speak. They had the actual speaking area fenced off and guarded by the cops. So they were trapped in between the Antifa thugs, and the law. Of course they didnt fight the law, unlike what the Antifa is known to do, or kill them.
RW, they did get their permit, but they had to fight for the location. They had already got the permit for that area then Antifa and BLM got permits for 2 nearby parks. Thats when the judge wanted to move the white group. Thats when they had to fight for it. Totally wrong in my opinion considering the statue they were protesting coming down was at the park they originally got the permit for. Then as Antifa and BLM matters were overfilling the area, before the speaker even got there, the permit was pulled.
They had a court order to rally in the park where the statue was because the city pulled their permit for that park, so they didn't technically have a permit but they had a court order.
A judge overrode the city's decision to pull the permit for the Emancipation Park rally because of the size (or so they say). They were there on court injunction.
The other groups did have permits.
Right?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
Post by: RW on August 24, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 11:43:47 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 11:43:47 PM
They had their own rallies booked, eh. And you know the alt-rightards showed up with GUNS right?
VA is a right to carry state. At least they didnt kill any cops like the alt-leftards
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 11:46:40 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 24, 2017, 11:46:40 PM
In Charlottesville, alt righters applied for and received from the city a permit to hold their rally in the park, and were quietly holding their demonstration when antifa and BLM showed up. I wonder who came to fight.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
You are incorrect sir.
BLM and AntiFa had city rally permits that day. Technically the Alt-Righters didn't have a permit because the city wouldn't give them one for that park. They sought a court injunction and won the right to protest in their desired location. They did so on a court injunction, not a permit.
They both came to fight. The righties were armed to the tits and many videos have been released saying they were ready for a fight. The left came armed and ready to fight. These groups clash regularly.
To a degree you're both wrong:laugh:
Iron Horse, you are mostly right, but they didnt even get to hold their demonstration. They were corralled to the area while being attacked, and once there, the judge pulled the permit at the 11th hour. The speaker never even got to speak. They had the actual speaking area fenced off and guarded by the cops. So they were trapped in between the Antifa thugs, and the law. Of course they didnt fight the law, unlike what the Antifa is known to do, or kill them.
RW, they did get their permit, but they had to fight for the location. They had already got the permit for that area then Antifa and BLM got permits for 2 nearby parks. Thats when the judge wanted to move the white group. Thats when they had to fight for it. Totally wrong in my opinion considering the statue they were protesting coming down was at the park they originally got the permit for. Then as Antifa and BLM matters were overfilling the area, before the speaker even got there, the permit was pulled.
They had a court order to rally in the park where the statue was because the city pulled their permit for that park, so they didn't technically have a permit but they had a court order.
A judge overrode the city's decision to pull the permit for the Emancipation Park rally because of the size (or so they say). They were there on court injunction.
The other groups did have permits.
Right?
I think? But the other groups permits were for other parks, not Emancipation park.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 11:49:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2017, 11:49:13 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 12:21:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 12:21:25 AM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:42:08 AM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:42:08 AM
In Charlottesville, alt righters applied for and received from the city a permit to hold their rally in the park, and were quietly holding their demonstration when antifa and BLM showed up. I wonder who came to fight.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
The same violent actions took place in Quebec City with the anti-illegal immigration group called La Meute being the target. If people cover their faces at public rallies, it's usually for nefarious purposes.
You are incorrect sir.
BLM and AntiFa had city rally permits that day. Technically the Alt-Righters didn't have a permit because the city wouldn't give them one for that park. They sought a court injunction and won the right to protest in their desired location. They did so on a court injunction, not a permit.
They both came to fight. The righties were armed to the tits and many videos have been released saying they were ready for a fight. The left came armed and ready to fight. These groups clash regularly.
To a degree you're both wrong:laugh:
Iron Horse, you are mostly right, but they didnt even get to hold their demonstration. They were corralled to the area while being attacked, and once there, the judge pulled the permit at the 11th hour. The speaker never even got to speak. They had the actual speaking area fenced off and guarded by the cops. So they were trapped in between the Antifa thugs, and the law. Of course they didnt fight the law, unlike what the Antifa is known to do, or kill them.
RW, they did get their permit, but they had to fight for the location. They had already got the permit for that area then Antifa and BLM got permits for 2 nearby parks. Thats when the judge wanted to move the white group. Thats when they had to fight for it. Totally wrong in my opinion considering the statue they were protesting coming down was at the park they originally got the permit for. Then as Antifa and BLM matters were overfilling the area, before the speaker even got there, the permit was pulled.
They had a court order to rally in the park where the statue was because the city pulled their permit for that park, so they didn't technically have a permit but they had a court order.
A judge overrode the city's decision to pull the permit for the Emancipation Park rally because of the size (or so they say). They were there on court injunction.
The other groups did have permits.
Right?
I think? But the other groups permits were for other parks, not Emancipation park.
Correct.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:43:44 AM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:43:44 AM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
I consider those racist pieces of shit to be the definition of a rightard.
But I was right and Blazor confirmed it. I wasn't losing when I wrote it either.
Fuck you're one dumb sack of steer manure.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
Thats why I feel she leans more to one side than the other. She calls certain sides names, but doesnt the other. Maybe it was all the scarring from Scouse?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 09:23:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 09:23:26 AM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
Thats why I feel she leans more to one side than the other. She calls certain sides names, but doesnt the other. Maybe it was all the scarring from Scouse?:laugh:
It can be difficult to be objective about the violence that took place in Charlottesville and Quebec City when you have a poster who doesn't even hide that he admires fascism..
Not even iron horse jockey goes that far..
But, as much as I find both sides views sickening, I stand by that the antifa side is the more violent one....and a lot more violent too.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 09:34:15 AM
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 09:34:15 AM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
Thats why I feel she leans more to one side than the other. She calls certain sides names, but doesnt the other. Maybe it was all the scarring from Scouse?:laugh:
It can be difficult to be objective about the violence that took place in Charlottesville and Quebec City when you have a poster who doesn't even hide that he admires fascism..
Not even iron horse jockey goes that far..
But, as much as I find both sides views sickening, I stand by that the antifa side is the more violent one....and a lot more violent too.
Fash has her glasses on
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the media
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 12:04:41 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 12:04:41 PM
Blazor, as you can see RW is the dumbest piece of shit on the internet. What the idiot starts calling folks rightards she lost any argument long ago.She's too stupid to figure it out.Quote from: "Herman"
Thats why I feel she leans more to one side than the other. She calls certain sides names, but doesnt the other. Maybe it was all the scarring from Scouse?:laugh:
Oh I have definite views about racist pieces of shit who carry tiki torches and chant hatred in the streets. I make no bones about it either.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 12:07:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 12:07:04 PM
Fash has her glasses onac_cool
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the mediaac_drinks
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Fash is an observant person.
Racism is still on the way out. A change at the white house doesn't stop the momentum.
What is changing is the amount of violence at protests. And I don't finger the alt right exclusively for the increase either.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Fash has her glasses onac_cool
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the mediaac_drinks
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Fash is an observant person.
Racism is still on the way out. A change at the white house doesn't stop the momentum.
What is changing is the amount of violence at protests. And I don't finger the alt right exclusively for the increase either.
Are you sure the amount of violence is changing? I haven't seen any statistics on it or really looked into it. Do you have something demonstrable?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 01:06:05 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 01:06:05 PM
Oh I have definite views about racist pieces of shit who carry tiki torches and chant hatred in the streets. I make no bones about it either.
I dont blame ya RW. But the tiki torches I didnt see anything wrong, it was at night
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Also I read some lists of the groups that were present and there were a lot of different groups on both sides - groups I've never heard of. Who ultimately gets the credit for the violence? The organizers?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 02:24:34 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 02:24:34 PM
I saw one video of them chanting about Jews but Blazor, having been to many rallies, a lot of shit is said and done that goes unseen. I watched videos where people were saying the intimidation by the alt-right started the night before even.Quote from: "RW"
Also I read some lists of the groups that were present and there were a lot of different groups on both sides - groups I've never heard of. Who ultimately gets the credit for the violence? The organizers?
Did they actually say "Jews"? Cause I swear I only seen the ones where they were saying "You". Maybe they were supremacists from Jersey and were saying You's but sounded like Jews
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
I saw one video of them chanting about Jews but Blazor, having been to many rallies, a lot of shit is said and done that goes unseen. I watched videos where people were saying the intimidation by the alt-right started the night before even.Quote from: "RW"
Also I read some lists of the groups that were present and there were a lot of different groups on both sides - groups I've never heard of. Who ultimately gets the credit for the violence? The organizers?
Did they actually say "Jews"? Cause I swear I only seen the ones where they were saying "You". Maybe they were supremacists from Jersey and were saying You's but sounded like Jews:laugh:
It was definitely Jew.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: cc on August 25, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
Post by: cc on August 25, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
from JerseyQuote
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Thiel on August 25, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
Post by: Thiel on August 25, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
Fash has her glasses onac_cool
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the mediaac_drinks
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Fash is an observant person.
Racism is still on the way out. A change at the white house doesn't stop the momentum.
What is changing is the amount of violence at protests. And I don't finger the alt right exclusively for the increase either.
Are you sure the amount of violence is changing? I haven't seen any statistics on it or really looked into it. Do you have something demonstrable?
Murdered cops in three different cities in the US. That is pretty bold.
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 06:17:29 PM
Post by: RW on August 25, 2017, 06:17:29 PM
Fash has her glasses onac_cool
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the mediaac_drinks
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Fash is an observant person.
Racism is still on the way out. A change at the white house doesn't stop the momentum.
What is changing is the amount of violence at protests. And I don't finger the alt right exclusively for the increase either.
Are you sure the amount of violence is changing? I haven't seen any statistics on it or really looked into it. Do you have something demonstrable?
Murdered cops in three different cities in the US. That is pretty bold.
That's not violence at protests though is it?
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 06:26:47 PM
Post by: Blazor on August 25, 2017, 06:26:47 PM
from JerseyQuote
:laugh:
I missed that joke! LOL!Quote from: "RW"
Title: Re: Poll: 40% of Americans blame both sides for Charlottesville Violence
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 06:36:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2017, 06:36:13 PM
Fash has her glasses onac_cool
Glad the majority of the posters here are not blinded by the mediaac_drinks
I live near Klanville. They dont bother nobody. Nice people. They dont like to be fucked with though. Racism is dying out, and will continue to do so unless the fires are flamed... which has been going on. When Obama came into office, a lot blacks, gays and such felt like they gained power to a degree. With Trump, they think they will lose some of that power, and they are acting out. By acting out against those white supremacists, they flamed the fires, and prolly increased the supremacists base. Racism was on the way out before Obama, but I've seen it increasing more and more since, and its not one type of racism.
Fash is an observant person.
Racism is still on the way out. A change at the white house doesn't stop the momentum.
What is changing is the amount of violence at protests. And I don't finger the alt right exclusively for the increase either.
Are you sure the amount of violence is changing? I haven't seen any statistics on it or really looked into it. Do you have something demonstrable?
Murdered cops in three different cities in the US. That is pretty bold.
That was Black Lives Matters supporters in two of those incidents if memory serves me right.