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Quote from: "RW"I have to read it again because I thought blood alcohol level was what they were checking for.

Quote from: "RW"Either way, it's still illegal.

Quote from: "RW"Where did Payne's lieutenant tell him to arrest her?  Was that in any of the videos because I don't recall seeing it.

QuotePayne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

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Quote from: "RW"Where did Payne's lieutenant tell him to arrest her?  Was that in any of the videos because I don't recall seeing it.

In the Salt Lake Tribune article I linked to in the OP.

QuotePayne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

Quote from: "Harry"Here's his LininkedIn page ://https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  //http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. //http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

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Quote from: "Harry"Here's his LininkedIn page ://https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  //http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. //http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

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Quote from: "Harry"Here's his LininkedIn page ://https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  //http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. //http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

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Quote from: "Harry"Here's his LininkedIn page ://https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  //http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. //http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

My younger brother is a policeman Harry..



You were mentioning his salary of $128,000..



It's very possible for any fifth year constable or better to earn well over $110,000 per year with overtime.

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Quote from: "Harry"Here's his LininkedIn page ://https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-payne-7485479b/



In 1997/98 Payne was shot in the shoulder by a suspect during a traffic stop.  He subsequently received an award for bravery.  //http://www.deseretnews.com/article/618888/6-Utah-officers-honored-for-bravery-in-the-line-of-duty.html



In 2014 Payne received an award received recognition for the part he played in the department's Property Crimes Unit. //http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/jeff-payne-salt-lake-city-detective-wubbels-arrest-blood-draw/

He's a seasoned veteran..



He should've known better.

Yes indeed.

My younger brother is a policeman Harry..



You were mentioning his salary of $128,000..



It's very possible for any fifth year constable or better to earn well over $110,000 per year with overtime.

Is that Canada or the US?

Quote from: "Harry"In my view, police officers are worth far more than what they are paid.



Until they turn out like the officer discussed in this thread.

Quote from: "Harry"Useful article here for anybody interested in the implied consent aspect of this matter.



//http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/01/paul-cassell-cop-who-arrested-nurse-was-wrong-but-the-law-is-complicated/

Quote from: "Harry"This is the police dash cam of the crash that led to Mr Gray being injured.







It looks like it could have been a suicide.  There was nothing in front of the fugitive, and looks like he deliberately crossed to the other side of the road in order to to crash into a truck.

Quote"I'm not here to police the police," Alex Wubbels, 41, said Monday on TODAY. "The police need to do that if they're going to regain any kind of trust by me or, I think, the public."

QuoteWubbels' attorney Karra Porter appeared with her Monday on "TODAY." While a lawsuit is not out of the question, Porter said, her client mostly wants changes so no other nurses are arrested.



"Most people that this happens to don't have this kind of evidence," Porter said.

QuoteThe University of Utah Hospital, where a nurse was manhandled and arrested by police as she protected the legal rights of a patient, has imposed new restrictions on law enforcement, including barring officers from patient-care areas and from direct contact with nurses.



Margaret Pearce, chief nursing officer for the University of Utah hospital system, said she was "appalled" by the obfficer's actions and has already implemented changes in hospital protocol to avoid any repetition.



She said police will no longer be permitted in patient-care areas, such as the burn unit where Wubbels was the charge nurse on the day of the incident and from emergency rooms.



In addition, officers will have to deal with "house supervisors" instead of nurses when they have a request.

Quote from: "Angry White Male"The solution is now simple...  When they have a large, violent male patient that becomes a problem, the nurses can now handle that themselves!



Remember, women always want independence!  Give it to them!



When they get the shit beat out of them, their faces and bodies sliced open, and generally get beaten to within an inch of their lives, these stupid bitches will then miraculously reverse the policy...

QuoteSalt Lake City police Detective Jeff Payne has been fired from his part-time paramedic job as the fallout continues from his arrest of a University Hospital nurse in July.



Payne's actions "violated several company policies and left a poor image of the company," Gold Cross President Mike Moffitt said in a Tuesday interview. "We determined today it was best to part ways."

QuoteThe officer at the center of controversy over his treatment of a Utah nurse was told not to worry about obtaining blood from an unconscious car crash victim in the hospital, but tried anyway, Logan Police Chief Gary Jensen told CNN Wednesday.

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Jensen told CNN his department had initially ordered the sample from the man, who was involved in a crash near Logan, Utah in Cache County. But Logan police asked the Salt Lake City police for help and they dispatched Payne, a trained phlebotomist, to get the blood sample, Jensen said.



At the hospital, Payne relayed his difficulty in getting the blood sample to a Logan detective, who was not at the hospital, Jensen said.

According to Jensen, the detective then informed Payne the Logan department could get the blood through other means.



"He didn't tell him you must cease and desist, he simply said 'don't worry about it, we'll go another way,'" Jensen told CNN. "I just don't believe (Payne's) actions were in the best interest of the patient, the nurses or law enforcement, quite frankly.



"He could have just packed up and gone home," Jensen added.