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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 12:14:42 AM

Title: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 12:14:42 AM
If someone posted on social media for this islamonazi's death, they'd get jail time.


QuoteA US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.



Mr Sodagar appeared in an online video recorded in 2010 in which he details ways in which gay people can be 'punished' for their sexuality, including being beheaded or thrown off a cliff. Footage shows him apparently telling an audience: "If there's homosexual men, the punishment is one of five things. One, the easiest one maybe, is cut their head off, that's the easiest. The second is, burn them to death. Third, throw them off a cliff. Fourth, tear down the wall on them so they die. Fifth, a combination of the above.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 12:27:07 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"If someone posted on social media for this islamonazi's death, they'd get jail time.


QuoteA US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.



Mr Sodagar appeared in an online video recorded in 2010 in which he details ways in which gay people can be 'punished' for their sexuality, including being beheaded or thrown off a cliff. Footage shows him apparently telling an audience: "If there's homosexual men, the punishment is one of five things. One, the easiest one maybe, is cut their head off, that's the easiest. The second is, burn them to death. Third, throw them off a cliff. Fourth, tear down the wall on them so they die. Fifth, a combination of the above.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html

Calling for a holocaust against gays. Islamists like this guy are the real modern Nazis.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 12:32:22 AM
I think this thread is a better fit for Global Supremacism.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 04:32:01 PM
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Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: RW on September 08, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
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Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2017, 05:42:59 PM
The UK is such a lost fucking cause, the occupant of number 10 is an apologist for the madness of sharia.


QuoteMay sparked controversy when she spoke out in support of the Islamic courts operating in the country, telling the nation they could "benefit a great deal" from Sharia teachings.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/688662/Theresa-May-Sharia-Law-inquiry-Prime-Minister-leader-conservative-party-downing-street
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Wazzzup on September 08, 2017, 11:02:13 PM
This is another big reason why I am against "hate speech" laws.  They are not equally applied.



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Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: RW on September 09, 2017, 02:51:57 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"This is another big reason why I am against "hate speech" laws.  They are not equally applied.



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I think it should only extend to advocating violence or genocide and it should apply equally across the board.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Wazzzup on September 09, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"This is another big reason why I am against "hate speech" laws.  They are not equally applied.



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I think it should only extend to advocating violence or genocide and it should apply equally across the board.


that's good that you believe in that of course, but they aren't going to be.  They are going to be twisted into double standards and they are going to be twisted to fit the biases of the tribunal or judge. That has been their history (as I pointed out in the free speech thread).  Why would it change?



If the laws don't exist they can't be abused.



Which leads to the question--What is the harm in replealing them? tell me what horrible thing will happen that wouldn't happen otherwise if they weren't there?
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: RW on September 09, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Which leads to the question--What is the harm in replealing them? tell me what horrible thing will happen that wouldn't happen otherwise if they weren't there?

Wait wait...bear with me for one second here as my education background includes philosophy of constitutional and criminal law.



Why was hate speech law created in the first place?  What issue was this law addressing?



THAT needs to be understood before talking about repealing.  So I challenge you to find out what drove the law's creation in the first place.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The UK is such a lost fucking cause, the occupant of number 10 is an apologist for the madness of sharia.


QuoteMay sparked controversy when she spoke out in support of the Islamic courts operating in the country, telling the nation they could "benefit a great deal" from Sharia teachings.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/688662/Theresa-May-Sharia-Law-inquiry-Prime-Minister-leader-conservative-party-downing-street

It's a slippery slope.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: cc on September 09, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Worse. It's a steep fast coal shute  to  hell. Each step supplies impetus to go for the next steps



Shariah is the exact opposite to democracy and to our system of law
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
Hopefully it doesn't get that far. Reasonable accommodation is fine, but it cannot be carte blanche.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: cc on September 09, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
^^ Each step supplies impetus to go for the next steps



Dunno why "Reasonable accommodation" would be even thought of ... what makes islam so special?



130  .. not "law" .. YET .. . but an unnecessary step toward employment of shariah blasphemy law .. creep creep creep



People are being arrested in EU just for calling islam what it is .... one was for publishing "hate speech" quotes as contained in the Mein Koranmpf  ... yet the the War Manual for Dummies containing the original verses itself is allowed to exist .. how does that work? ..  .. some for bitching about the need for concrete barricades and cops everywhere  .... boggling how suicidal the West is
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: "cc"^^ Each step supplies impetus to go for the next steps



Dunno why "Reasonable accommodation" would be even thought of ... what makes islam so special?



130  .. not "law" .. YET .. . but an unnecessary step toward employment of shariah blasphemy law .. creep creep creep



People are being arrested in EU just for calling islam what it is .... one was for publishing "hate speech" quotes as contained in the Mein Koranmpf  ... yet the the War Manual for Dummies containing the original verses itself is allowed to exist .. how does that work? ..  .. some for bitching about the need for concrete barricades and cops everywhere  .... boggling how suicidal the West is

I don't mean special privileges for one religion or ideology or whatever you choose to call it. I mean in general, accommodating cultural practices as long as they don't conflict with the host nations laws.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: cc on September 09, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Shariah is not cultural practices. It is islamic law .... and in most every individual situation is in direct conflict with our laws



It's blasphemy law  .. criticising it being the current major issue for the entire West  .... and the West is caving to it even though it directly counters our historical laws



This is sleaze around it by saying it applies to all groups, but the motive is to kill criticism of islam ... others groups historically never really cared deeply ..  and further, most people of all other  groups valued free speech as vital



The irony is that if it is "special" .... it is not special in good ways
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: "cc"Shariah is not cultural practices. It is islamic law .... and in most every individual situation is in direct conflict with our laws



It's blasphemy law  .. criticising it being the current major issue for the entire West  .... and the West is caving to it even though it directly counters our historical laws



This is sleaze around it by saying it applies to all groups, but the motive is to kill criticism of islam ... others groups historically never really cared deeply ..  and further, most people of all other  groups valued free speech as vital



The irony is that if it is "special" .... it is not special in good ways

This is something, I don't understand cc..



I would never want to stop anyone from criticizing my faith.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: RW on September 09, 2017, 04:41:18 PM
Learning from something is a lot different than applying it.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: "cc"^^ Each step supplies impetus to go for the next steps



Dunno why "Reasonable accommodation" would be even thought of ... what makes islam so special?



130  .. not "law" .. YET .. . but an unnecessary step toward employment of shariah blasphemy law .. creep creep creep



People are being arrested in EU just for calling islam what it is .... one was for publishing "hate speech" quotes as contained in the Mein Koranmpf  ... yet the the War Manual for Dummies containing the original verses itself is allowed to exist .. how does that work? ..  .. some for bitching about the need for concrete barricades and cops everywhere  .... boggling how suicidal the West is

What makes islam so special? Violence of course.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"Shariah is not cultural practices. It is islamic law .... and in most every individual situation is in direct conflict with our laws



It's blasphemy law  .. criticising it being the current major issue for the entire West  .... and the West is caving to it even though it directly counters our historical laws



This is sleaze around it by saying it applies to all groups, but the motive is to kill criticism of islam ... others groups historically never really cared deeply ..  and further, most people of all other  groups valued free speech as vital



The irony is that if it is "special" .... it is not special in good ways

This is something, I don't understand cc..



I would never want to stop anyone from criticizing my faith.

As you have said yourself, there are no consequences for criticizing your religion. You guys don't kill cartoonists who draw images of Christ or one of the apostles. Seth MacFarlane does not have to live in hiding for poking fun of Jesus on The Family Guy.



And there are no motions passed in Ottawa declaring legitimate criticism of your faith Christianophobia. A cowardly act for sure. But, if you guys were as thin skinned as Islamists, you too could be a protected group.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: RW on September 09, 2017, 06:49:34 PM
Christians aren't persecuted in our countries.  They aren't marginalized, demonized or otherwise.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2017, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"Shariah is not cultural practices. It is islamic law .... and in most every individual situation is in direct conflict with our laws



It's blasphemy law  .. criticising it being the current major issue for the entire West  .... and the West is caving to it even though it directly counters our historical laws



This is sleaze around it by saying it applies to all groups, but the motive is to kill criticism of islam ... others groups historically never really cared deeply ..  and further, most people of all other  groups valued free speech as vital



The irony is that if it is "special" .... it is not special in good ways

This is something, I don't understand cc..



I would never want to stop anyone from criticizing my faith.

As you have said yourself, there are no consequences for criticizing your religion. You guys don't kill cartoonists who draw images of Christ or one of the apostles. Seth MacFarlane does not have to live in hiding for poking fun of Jesus on The Family Guy.



And there are no motions passed in Ottawa declaring legitimate criticism of your faith Christianophobia. A cowardly act for sure. But, if you guys were as thin skinned as Islamists, you too could be a protected group.

It's true, there aren't..



And I wouldn't want there to be any consequences either.
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2017, 02:42:28 AM
Quote from: "cc"Shariah is not cultural practices. It is islamic law .... and in most every individual situation is in direct conflict with our laws



It's blasphemy law  .. criticising it being the current major issue for the entire West  .... and the West is caving to it even though it directly counters our historical laws



This is sleaze around it by saying it applies to all groups, but the motive is to kill criticism of islam ... others groups historically never really cared deeply ..  and further, most people of all other  groups valued free speech as vital



The irony is that if it is "special" .... it is not special in good ways

BULLSEYE!!
Title: Re: US Muslim preacher 'who advocated beheading of gay men allowed to lecture in the UK
Post by: cc on September 10, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "cc"^^ Each step supplies impetus to go for the next steps



Dunno why "Reasonable accommodation" would be even thought of ... what makes islam so special?



130  .. not "law" .. YET .. . but an unnecessary step toward employment of shariah blasphemy law .. creep creep creep



People are being arrested in EU just for calling islam what it is .... one was for publishing "hate speech" quotes as contained in the Mein Koranmpf  ... yet the the War Manual for Dummies containing the original verses itself is allowed to exist .. how does that work? ..  .. some for bitching about the need for concrete barricades and cops everywhere  .... boggling how suicidal the West is

What makes islam so special? Violence of course.

And many other tools - a 24/7/365 bitch / whine / intimidate lobby that is CAIR driven, Supremacist Muslim Brotherhood affiliated .... assisted by its all too willing slaves



[That's the  Supremacist Muslim Brotherhood - the folk who created the silly but so useful intimidation word "islamoFAUXbia" for its white slaves to employ on behalf of islam -  the  Supremacist Muslim Brotherhood formed in 1929 around the credo ""God is our objective; the Quran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations.""]



And suicidal slugs / peons from original society that for strange reasons work on its behalf and according to MB directions. We see that here on this site even to the ludicrous extent of ..



"Oh my goodness gracious .. don't say what it does because that will make it do more bad things  ... and make others of its poor picked on followers feel bad ..... Those who speak out the facts are baaaaad BIGOTS and islamoFAUXbes"



islam was never designed to assimilate, it was designed to dominate. Yes. regs don't say that or play it that way ... but it's not their role to ... that's the fundy role and the Brotherhood / CAIR is the largest intimidation organ
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