What's up with the Mainland Chinese vs. the Hongers?
Aren't you all Chinese?  What's the difference?
			
			
			
				Shen Li swallows Flashy spits
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
What's up with the Mainland Chinese vs. the Hongers?
Aren't you all Chinese?  What's the difference?
Different levels of development..
Hong Kong Chinese generally look down on Mainlanders like Shen Li and Priscilla..
There's a different work culture too from HK to the mainland..
Our work culture in Taiwan is closer to mainland China than HK..
But, most Taiwanese still look down on mainland Chinese.
			 
			
			
				Northern China has better looking gals than the South. Particularly Shandong. There must be something in the water there. So many sexy ladies.
			
			
			
				It's almost like a caste system then, it seems...
			
			
			
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Northern China has better looking gals than the South. Particularly Shandong. There must be something in the water there. So many sexy ladies.
Gong Li is from Shandong.
			 
			
			
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Different levels of development..
Hong Kong Chinese generally look down on Mainlanders like Shen Li and Priscilla..
There's a different work culture too from HK to the mainland..
Our work culture in Taiwan is closer to mainland China than HK..
But, most Taiwanese still look down on mainland Chinese.
Do the Mainlanders fuck around more, while on the clock?  Are the Hongers more efficient?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Different levels of development..
Hong Kong Chinese generally look down on Mainlanders like Shen Li and Priscilla..
There's a different work culture too from HK to the mainland..
Our work culture in Taiwan is closer to mainland China than HK..
But, most Taiwanese still look down on mainland Chinese.
Do the Mainlanders fuck around more, while on the clock?  Are the Hongers more efficient?
I'm mainland Chinese and I admit HKers are more productive workers. HK has a Western work culture like Fash said.
			 
			
			
				I work with many East Indians, and their work ethic is simply to "fuck around, for as much as you can."
Seems similar...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
I work with many East Indians, and their work ethic is simply to "fuck around, for as much as you can."
Seems similar...
I don't know about that, but productivity on the mainland needs to get up to HK levels. They are improving though as wages rise in China.
			 
			
			
				So Hong Kong is essentially filled with people that have a better work ethic?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
So Hong Kong is essentially filled with people that have a better work ethic?
They've had a capitalist system for a long time. If you want higher wages you must be more productive. Mainland Chinese have only recently understood this.
			 
			
			
				Is there much movement of labour between Mainland and Hong Kong?
Or does everyone tend to stay in place?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Is there much movement of labour between Mainland and Hong Kong?
Or does everyone tend to stay in place?
Mainland Chinese cannot move to  HK unless they get a special visa from the SAR.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Mainland Chinese cannot move to  HK unless they get a special visa from the SAR.
Shit!
You guys really keep those bums out!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Mainland Chinese cannot move to  HK unless they get a special visa from the SAR.
Shit!
You guys really keep those bums out!
Hey, I am one of those bums. :mad:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Hey, I am one of those bums. :mad:
Too funny, you Chinese!
It must work, Shen...  You know how I know?  I live and work in the number one destination for Hongers...
The amount of money they can throw around here, is staggering...
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Hey, I am one of those bums. :mad:
Too funny, you Chinese!
It must work, Shen...  You know how I know?  I live and work in the number one destination for Hongers...
The amount of money they can throw around here, is staggering...
Wealthy mainland Chinese are desperately looking for places to park their money. HK and Singapore are preferred destinations. After that it's Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Auckland and Melbourne. Not a lot of faith in the mainland's future.
			 
			
			
				Wealthy mainlanders do not have much faith in the Chinese stock market or real estate..
It makes me wonder if Chinese economic growth will come crashing down.
			
			
			
				One thing I've noticed whenever I've had to use the restroom in an office building with mainland Chinese businesses is that their staff can't seem to come to grips with basic toilet hygiene.
They rarely, if ever, flush.  I've seen footprints on the toilet seat, turds in urinals, and far more piss on the floors than could ever be attributed to the occasional miss.
What's really perplexing is that whilst they don't flush, you never see toilet paper in the bowl, just the remnants of their passing.
I don't recall ever seeing one wash his hands on the way out, either.
It's not a general Asian thing.  Hong Kong Chinese, Vietnamese, Malaysians don't seem to have a problem with this stuff - just the Chinese mainlanders.
It's a sign of deeper cultural differences, I guess.
			
			
			
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One thing I've noticed whenever I've had to use the restroom in an office building with mainland Chinese businesses is that their staff can't seem to come to grips with basic toilet hygiene.
They rarely, if ever, flush.  I've seen footprints on the toilet seat, turds in urinals, and far more piss on the floors than could ever be attributed to the occasional miss.
What's really perplexing is that whilst they don't flush, you never see toilet paper in the bowl, just the remnants of their passing.
I don't recall ever seeing one wash his hands on the way out, either.
It's not a general Asian thing.  Hong Kong Chinese, Vietnamese, Malaysians don't seem to have a problem with this stuff - just the Chinese mainlanders.
It's a sign of deeper cultural differences, I guess.
I've seen that in gas station rest rooms. And it wasn't Chinese who were the culprits.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Harry"
One thing I've noticed whenever I've had to use the restroom in an office building with mainland Chinese businesses is that their staff can't seem to come to grips with basic toilet hygiene.
They rarely, if ever, flush.  I've seen footprints on the toilet seat, turds in urinals, and far more piss on the floors than could ever be attributed to the occasional miss.
What's really perplexing is that whilst they don't flush, you never see toilet paper in the bowl, just the remnants of their passing.
I don't recall ever seeing one wash his hands on the way out, either.
It's not a general Asian thing.  Hong Kong Chinese, Vietnamese, Malaysians don't seem to have a problem with this stuff - just the Chinese mainlanders.
It's a sign of deeper cultural differences, I guess.
Mainlanders have a ways to go yet with high gene, but those are some really extreme examples..
Mainlanders who immigrate are educated professionals and likely wouldn't do this in China let alone Australia.
			 
			
			
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... a ways to go yet with "high gene"
  Oh my. :laugh: 
Shen would know best, but seems a lot of people here in town are not necessarily well educated. Lots of young adults with filthy rich parents bought a condo etc. and got them here 
From what we saw doing "business" in Quing Dao area, there is great corruption and people of position be it even the top cop of an area .. the Commander of a military base etc. etc. were filthy rich from doing what we would consider very bad things.  It was quite an experience .. all we saw was corruption and even intimidation at every level. 
We felt afraid to not go along with them. We were so concerned that we even decided  to pretend to play along with the ludicrous and phoney "business" deal they had in mind using our US company until we got back home  .. formal signing ceremonies ... a party to end all parties in our honor before leaving etc.  We found ourselves playing in a league we were not accustomed to and had no idea of until we got there and their plans for the use of our US corporation evolved. 
Was formally introduced by the local police chief to the .. and I quote his words via our translator .. "Local Mafia Chieftain" .. (lol now that we are back here)
Back to where I started,  investment of funds here is an easy way in.
			 
			
			
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... a ways to go yet with "high gene"
  Oh my. :laugh: 
Shen would know best, but seems a lot of people here in town are not necessarily well educated. Lots of young adults with filthy rich parents bought a condo etc. and got them here 
From what we saw doing "business" in Quing Dao area, there is great corruption and people of position be it even the top cop of an area .. the Commander of a military base etc. etc. were filthy rich from doing what we would consider very bad things.  It was quite an experience .. all we saw was corruption and even intimidation at every level. 
We felt afraid to not go along with them. We were so concerned that we even decided  to pretend to play along with the ludicrous and phoney "business" deal they had in mind using our US company until we got back home  .. formal signing ceremonies ... a party to end all parties in our honor before leaving etc.  We found ourselves playing in a league we were not accustomed to and had no idea of until we got there and their plans for the use of our US corporation evolved. 
Was formally introduced by the local police chief to the .. and I quote his words via our translator .. "Local Mafia Chieftain" .. (lol now that we are back here)
Back to where I started,  investment of funds here is an easy way in.
How long ago was that cc? I thought they cracked on corrupt business practices. But, China is a huge country and corruption runs deep.
			 
			
			
				about 13 years ago
Been back since but only for Conferences, NOT to do business
			
			
			
				It was a clown show ... funny now that we are not there. "The Villagers" who had their land just taken / stolen from them for the development we were to work on burned 12 D9 Cat Dozers the night before our big meeting. We saw the smoke of them still simmering on our way to the lunch. Lunch was in the military compound nearby and where our wannabe partners rented office space (always paid by cash to the base commander directly).
5 guards with AKs at the gate pointed at 45 degrees, not pointed down ... a new thing for us and a bit scary 
At the all afternoon lunch put on especially for us the "Mafia Chieftain", a few drinks in his belly got up to tell his story ... drifted into what the villagers had just done to his equipment, broke down in tears ... REAL tears  running down onto his shirt and the Chief of Police had to hold him and console him. 
The whole deal was like Alice in Wonderland except we were on a bloody Chinese military base ... and leading a sheltered life, we had never seen a Mafia Chieftain cry before, lol
			
			
			
				Where are Guyver and his dad?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Harry"
I've seen footprints on the toilet seat
I have seen this also, in a Chinese warehouse here in Vancouver.
I had large coffee, and had to take a major piss at my pickup back then...
Dirty toilet, with footprints on the seat.  Luckily I just had to take a piss...
The Chinks that worked there were clearly fresh off the boat.  Canada has no limit on fresh off the boat chinks and East Indians that can immigrate here, as Canada is all for diversity!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
It was a clown show ... funny now that we are not there. "The Villagers" who had their land just taken / stolen from them for the development we were to work on burned 12 D9 Cat Dozers the night before our big meeting. We saw the smoke of them still simmering on our way to the lunch. Lunch was in the military compound nearby and where our wannabe partners rented office space (always paid by cash to the base commander directly).
5 guards with AKs at the gate pointed at 45 degrees, not pointed down ... a new thing for us and a bit scary 
At the all afternoon lunch put on especially for us the "Mafia Chieftain", a few drinks in his belly got up to tell his story ... drifted into what the villagers had just done to his equipment, broke down in tears ... REAL tears  running down onto his shirt and the Chief of Police had to hold him and console him. 
The whole deal was like Alice in Wonderland except we were on a bloody Chinese military base ... and leading a sheltered life, we had never seen a Mafia Chieftain cry before, lol
I knew you weren't talking about Shanghai. Rural China is still backwards for the most part.