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Title: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 09:11:12 AM
Another tragic and unnecessary loss of life :(



Las Vegas Shooting: 50 Killed and 406 Hurt Near Mandalay Bay



A gunman fired a barrage of bullets on an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas Sunday night, killing at least 50 people and injuring more than 400 others, police said, in the worst mass shooting in modern American history.



From his room on the 32nd floor of a glitzy hotel, the shooter, identified by law enforcement officials as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada, fired shot after shot down on the crowd of more than 22,000, sending terrified concertgoers running for their lives.



"We heard what sounded like firecrackers going off. Then all of a sudden we heard what sounded like a machine gun. People started screaming that they were hit... When we started running out there were probably a couple hundred [people] on the ground," witness Meghan Kearney told MSNBC.



...



The shooting is not believed to be connected to international terrorism.



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 10:06:45 AM
everyone stand behind your government ,they'll protect the people..



these incidents are stepping stones to police state and NWO..



then the government will call all the shots and control 100%
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 02, 2017, 10:37:11 AM
ISIS claims responsibility for the attack, says he was a recent convert, but there is no evidence of that anywhere so far.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/islamic-state-claims-las-vegas-attack-says-shooter-141433433.html



ISIS called for a lone wolf attack on the Las Vegas Strip in a 'call to arms' video released in May.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940156/ISIS-video-called-lone-wolf-attack-Las-Vegas.html#ixzz4uMXv4K4H



ISIS "has shown itself to be accurate in claiming only attacks they directed/inspired." New York Times ISIS correspondent Rukmini Callimachi noted in late March

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/breaking-isis-claims-las-vegas-shooting/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 11:01:44 AM
MSNBC will spin this into a an attack by right wing extremists and every prog news source will run with it. Country music fans should be given special protection by Justin's regime.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"MSNBC will spin this into a an attack by right wing extremists and every prog news source will run with it. Country music fans should be given special protection by Justin's regime.

If it is an attack by a right wing extremist, there will be no need for spin.



According to terrorism experts, right wing extremism is one of the biggest terrorism threats in the US currently.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 11:28:53 AM
It looks like the shooter was a Trump-hating leftie.....
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 11:29:39 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"MSNBC will spin this into a an attack by right wing extremists and every prog news source will run with it. Country music fans should be given special protection by Justin's regime.

If it is an attack by a right wing extremist, there will be no need for spin.



According to terrorism experts, right wing extremism is one of the biggest terrorism threats in the US currently.


You wish.   :laugh:



It makes no sense for a 'nazi' to shoot up a country and western gathering full of Conservative white people.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"MSNBC will spin this into a an attack by right wing extremists and every prog news source will run with it. Country music fans should be given special protection by Justin's regime.

If it is an attack by a right wing extremist, there will be no need for spin.



According to terrorism experts, right wing extremism is one of the biggest terrorism threats in the US currently.


You wish.   :laugh:



It makes no sense for a 'nazi' to shoot up a country and western gathering full of Conservative white people.

I don't need to wish.  It's well documented.



White on white violence.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 11:34:47 AM
I've not looked into it properly, but from what I've seen so far is he was a disgruntled democrat with a Thai/Chinese wife......
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
Stephen Paddock 64 yrs old



"Logical" Speculation (and no more than that) - Not likely a jihadi at that age. Not likely a white supremacist to shoot up country music people.



Motive either not known or not given out yet.



Stop  bickering to push your own agendas kiddies. Not one of us has a clue as to the "why" at this time
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 11:40:59 AM
His FB account supposedly had 'liked' lots of radical far left groups.  This definitely seems like a far left extremist who targeted Conservative whites.



RW's dream man!   :roll:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 11:44:07 AM
Damage limitation in effect, his Facebook account has been deactivated along with his wife's....  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
Latest at this time



Las Vegas Police told ABC News that Paddock was found in a Mandalay Bay hotel room on the 32nd floor with at least ten long rifles. He was found dead. NBC News reports that the shooting is not linked to international terrorism.



"He was shot, but I cannot tell you that it was the police that shot him," . "He may have self-inflicted that gunshot wound. Those details are still emerging throughout our investigation."



McMahill also said that Paddock had no major "derogatory" offenses on his criminal record aside from a minor traffic citation in Las Vegas.



http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-criminal-record-lawsuit/



He shot from 32 nd floor onto a crowd of music  listeners several hundred  ft away



Stop  bickering to push your own agendas kiddies. Not one of us has a clue as to the "why" at this time



Toll 58 dead as of now
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"His FB account supposedly had 'liked' lots of radical far left groups.  This definitely seems like a far left extremist who targeted Conservative whites.



RW's dream man!   :roll:

That's a disgusting thing to say SCOUSE.  I feel sickened that so many innocent people lost their lives.  My "dream man" doesn't kill people.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 02, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 11:59:33 AM
Gross.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 12:02:07 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "SCOUSE"His FB account supposedly had 'liked' lots of radical far left groups.  This definitely seems like a far left extremist who targeted Conservative whites.



RW's dream man!   :roll:

That's a disgusting thing to say SCOUSE.  I feel sickened that so many innocent people lost their lives.  My "dream man" doesn't kill people.


Not even when it's for the cause 'Comrade'?    :laugh3:



Somehow I doubt the media will be crowing that the guy was a left wing extremist should this be true, whereas if he was right leaning politically they would never let it drop.....
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 02, 2017, 12:24:59 PM
ISIS have too claimed responsibility.  It says it all really when the likes of ANTIFA and ISIS both appear to applaud the shooter's actions, and yet the official line pushed is that white supremacists are the 'bad guys'.   :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
[At first they thought gf might be involved, but she was located out of country] "She holds an Australian passport and is possibly of Indonesian decent"



Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling.



They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels. (//http)



If true, there's not many left wingnuts who listen to to country music ... but don't let that stop speculation, eh?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: "cc"[At first they thought gf might be involved, but she was located out of country] "She holds an Australian passport and is possibly of Indonesian decent"



Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling.



They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels. (//http)



If true, there's not many left wingnuts who listen to to country music ... but don't let that stop speculation, eh?

The shooter was either a prog extremist or a jihadist.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
While of course auto- first instincts go to "country music fans"  ... and to room mate .... but that's just instincts.



There seems to be little on him online or off. Most radicals of any stripe yap a lot. Seems he did not



I won't speculate "as to motive" outside of  my own raw instinctual thoughts until more is known.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 02, 2017, 01:45:33 PM
Gotta love the media, AOL which is known to lean against Trump, has a headline "Obama, Clinton sound off in wake of deadly Las Vegas shooting". Does not mention Trump, but if you scroll to the bottom of the article, you find his comment. Fucking Media.



https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/02/obama-clinton-sound-off-in-wake-of-deadly-las-vegas-shooting/23229857/



Did AOL get rid of the comment section? Havent seen it in recent articles.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 02:16:23 PM
meanwhile at the hospital





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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
He has no record. His dad had been on 10 most wanted list - when he was an escaped bank robber .. dad also officially diagnosed "psychopathic"  (Established Fact NBC, Fox etc.)



Lots of speculation and several on tape first hand witness reports of a woman loudly telling people in front row "you are all going to die" before show started and 40 minutes before shooting ... was reported and woman lead away by security ... not mentioned by police



So far, no solid clues given officially
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 02:45:25 PM
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It was a productive day for antifa and their islamic fascist comrades.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 02, 2017, 02:46:03 PM
[size=150]Narrative likeliness[/size]



The jihadii narrative



ISIS claims responsibility--they never (or almost never) claim responsibility for anything they weren't a part of.



This is also very much an ISIS style attack, especially since they called for attacks on the Las Vegas strip in May.



OTOH a white convert of 64 years of age doesn't fit well in that narrative, though its certainly not impossible.



The right winger left winger narrative



His choice of victims being country music fans suggests more likely a left winger than a right winger, since country music people are more likely to be white, conservative, Christians, and Trump voters.



But, Even though some narratives seem more likely than other, Its still all speculation though, until we know for sure, and we may never know for sure.

------



Predictably A lot of buzz about gun control even though he had a full auto weapon which is illegal.  so that argument fails, but I'm sure it will continue nonetheless
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 03:06:32 PM
That about covers it from  what is and is not known at moment



Indonesian gf sticks in my mind a bit .. but nothing reported in that area



Reports that he converted several weapons to auto  .. although seems early for that to be official details
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Actually I'm at the hospital getting an MRI so can you kindly troll someone else today please?  I can't only be so bored.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"
Quote from: "RW"
Actually I'm at the hospital getting an MRI so can you kindly troll someone else today please?  I can't only be so bored.




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They found my brain I swear!   :laugh3:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
How about rather than shamelessly speculating we just wait for the facts?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 02, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
The Islamic State is not backing off from its claim of responsibility for the Las Vegas massacre. They don't seem to be afraid that Stephen Paddock will turn out to be a white supremacist neo-Nazi or some such. They don't seem to be worried about being exposed as grandiose liars. They're doubling down.[/quote]

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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
hmmmm ... doubledown ...... not like IS to make false claims ... for a long time they never made a false claim far as I know to retain credibility



especially this one would totally  ruin future credibility for any future claims (now 3 claims in all for this one) .. however, they have been shaken up badly on the ground and who knows whose running the PR show today



On the other hand, they did make a claim specifically that "Vegas strip is coming" in May



Not sure what is going on. We''ll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.



So far, cops say not a sniff of organised group



His killing himself as cops came to door vs islamics most always want to die by infidel bullets also cuts against this possibility


QuoteAs Islamic State expert Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi wrote in a blog post on Monday, releasing the statement through Amaq gives the Islamic State plausible deniability if no connection between the group and the gunman emerges.



"This saves the Islamic State the trouble of having to 'retract' a claim, since from the standpoint of communicating to the external world, no formal claim was made if the only material ever issued was an Amaq News report relying on a mere 'source,'" Al-Tamimi wrote.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 04:53:04 PM
The FBI has yet to find an ISIS connection.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 02, 2017, 05:02:51 PM
That has been the operative data all along



Now go ahead and take last post





Edit - Good plan kiebs
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 02, 2017, 05:07:44 PM
This thread is not going to turn into a political flame fest. I will move posts and time folks out. This is the only warning that will be given.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 02, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"This thread is not going to turn into a political flame fest. I will move posts and time folks out. This is the only warning that will be given.

 :120p6wp_th:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 02, 2017, 05:36:58 PM
appears the shots were being fired from the fourth floor , not the 32nd..64 year old man dead for a, dare I say it, another false flag..



fixed

Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 10:21:02 PM
I heard about this senseless massacre in my car on the commute to work today.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 02, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"everyone stand behind your government ,they'll protect the people..



these incidents are stepping stones to police state and NWO..



then the government will call all the shots and control 100%


I know rite.  Its amazing how dumb people are to think their government actually cares about them... :laugh3:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "realgrimm"everyone stand behind your government ,they'll protect the people..



these incidents are stepping stones to police state and NWO..



then the government will call all the shots and control 100%


I know rite.  Its amazing how dumb people are to think their government actually cares about them... :laugh3:

They care about getting elected.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 02, 2017, 11:26:16 PM
Thats all it is Fash.  Theres some chick running for mayor in van...she claims to try make transit free and being able to vape anywhere in public...what a pathetic platform!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2017, 11:56:54 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Thats all it is Fash.  Theres some chick running for mayor in van...she claims to try make transit free and being able to vape anywhere in public...what a pathetic platform!

We have municipal elections across Alberta next week..



I don't want to see Nenshi re-elected mayor, but he will be.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I heard about this senseless massacre in my car on the commute to work today.

I caught it unfolding last night.  When I did, 2 were dead and 50 or so injured.  I thought that was horrific.  I couldn't believe it when it was over 50 and 400+ wounded.



So sad.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I heard about this senseless massacre in my car on the commute to work today.

I caught it unfolding last night.  When I did, 2 were dead and 50 or so injured.  I thought that was horrific.  I couldn't believe it when it was over 50 and 400+ wounded.



So sad.

I still don't know all the details..



Was there only one shooter?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I heard about this senseless massacre in my car on the commute to work today.

I caught it unfolding last night.  When I did, 2 were dead and 50 or so injured.  I thought that was horrific.  I couldn't believe it when it was over 50 and 400+ wounded.



So sad.

I still don't know all the details..



Was there only one shooter?

Apparently only the one with A LOT of guns.  It's the why that still seems to be a mystery.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I heard about this senseless massacre in my car on the commute to work today.

I caught it unfolding last night.  When I did, 2 were dead and 50 or so injured.  I thought that was horrific.  I couldn't believe it when it was over 50 and 400+ wounded.



So sad.

I still don't know all the details..



Was there only one shooter?

Apparently only the one with A LOT of guns.  It's the why that still seems to be a mystery.

I'm watching the National right now..



The shooter appears to be an enigma..



A sixty four year old multimillionaire with no ties far right or far left groups..



And nothing about sympathy for Islamic extremism either.



No history of mental illness.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 03, 2017, 12:57:54 AM
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 01:27:48 AM
Some are saying this guy on the pink NASA shirt with the pussy hat is paddock at an anti trump rally.



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There's a bit of a resemblance, but nothing confirming or denying yet.



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Before they were saying he just shot himself when the cops came, now they are saying he shot at them through the door, THEN shot himself.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-shot-at-swat-team-through-hotel-room-door/



Everything still very up in the air.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: JOE on October 03, 2017, 01:48:59 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Some are saying this guy on the pink NASA shirt with the pussy hat is paddock at an anti trump rally.



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There's a bit of a resemblance, but nothing confirming or denying yet.



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Before they were saying he just shot himself when the cops came, now they are saying he shot at them through the door, THEN shot himself.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-shot-at-swat-team-through-hotel-room-door/



Everything still very up in the air.


He looks like someone heavily sedated under the influence of medication.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 03, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
This is truly an odd case of violence...



As an Angry White Male, I try to think up scenarios that would've caused him to do this.



With the facts I have at hand, I can only come up with a mental illness rationale, as his father had mental problems also.



Almost like a Brenda Spencer type scenario, except he "Didn't like Sundays..."



Yet, planning went into setting up for the kill!  So, it wasn't exactly "spur of the moment" either.



This is different than the normal terrorist attacks we're all used to.  This is different, because we really don't have a clear motive, intent (other than to kill), reasoning, political affiliation, religious affiliation, etc., that drives so many other attacks.



This guy seemingly had no "minds to change," nor "history to alter"....



I am willing to bet there will be found, a triggering event that happened recently in his life.  Perhaps it was financial, or perhaps it was on a relationship level with his partner or close friends...



It is rare that this guy could, at his age, be indoctrinated enough now to hate White people enough to do this, so although I don't discount the possibility, I highly doubt he was planning recently with Ali Baba...



I wouldn't imagine he targeted a Country Music concert due to the known ethnicities that would arrive.  Hell, I've been to Vegas, and much of it is Whitesville...  It was a mass shooting simply of ease of opportunity.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 03, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
I'm still leaning towards him being a Trump-hating ANTIFA sympathiser.  Although it's possible he carried out the attack due to racking up massive gambling debts and wanted to damage the Las Vegas tourism industry.  



People have very short memories though, so I very much doubt something like this will put much of a dent in the earnings of the various businesses and casinos over there.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 03, 2017, 12:05:04 PM
There's too many holes in this story.  An old white guy who was rich with no criminal record shoots a crowd of people with many different guns...they have no idea who the shooter was or how many there actually were?  Then they find the guy in the hotel room and apparently commit suicide...BUT....they cant say weather he shot himself or if police did....and we are all just supposed to believe this???
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:07:19 PM
They've clearly stated he shot himself.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Girl friend may provide some insight. Contrary to earlier, an Australian newspaper, Brisbane's Courier-Mail, reported Monday that Danley was an "Australian citizen originally from the Philippines (and there the past 2 weeks)" and apparently on her way to the US



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As to changing info, that's to be expected in the early going. Early reports are often "sources" with some info but not all or exact info ... in the rush to be first. Pretty normal and should be expected in early going.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.

They went to his room and found him shot by a bullet from one of his guns maybe?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 03, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Thats what they've said.  But its not confirmed.



C'mon RW...you have to admit this story doesnt make sense.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:26:16 PM
What doesn't make sense?  Guy shoots hundreds of people then shots himself?  That sounds pretty on par with other mass shootings.  Police shoot them or they shoot themselves.  



But Ber, everything is still in investigation.  Things have been reported but not 100% confirmed.  I know when this went down other other night, they were reporting that the shooter had killed himself and they haven't deviated from that, despite conspiracy theory crap.  Could there be more to this story?  Absolutely!  We'll have to wait and see.



LVPD:



"Lombardo said he does not believe there were any other attackers and that reports on social media of multiple shooters and explosives used were false."
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 03, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.

We might not know the motive.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 03, 2017, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.

We might not know the motive.


I believe there are more people involved.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.

We might not know the motive.


I believe there are more people involved.

What makes you think that?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 03, 2017, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.

We might not know the motive.


I believe there are more people involved.

What makes you think that?


It doesnt make sense how he got all those guns into his room undetected.



Plus people staying at the hotel are saying they saw other gun men...but its not making social media...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 03, 2017, 01:46:20 PM
Or like Grimm pointed out, was firing from a lower level, not an upper that dude was on.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"The story doesnt make sense to me.  Something is amiss.  I bet we will never find out the entire truth of this story.

We might not know the motive.


I believe there are more people involved.

What makes you think that?


It doesnt make sense how he got all those guns into his room undetected.



Plus people staying at the hotel are saying they saw other gun men...but its not making social media...

Witness reliability is always an issue but the LVPD has requested all those with info to come forward with it - video, etc.  If there was, it will shake out.



He may have had help.  It's really early in the game still.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"Or like Grimm pointed out, was firing from a lower level, not an upper that dude was on.

So why did they find a dead man and shitters of guns on an upper floor?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 03, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Blazor"Or like Grimm pointed out, was firing from a lower level, not an upper that dude was on.

So why did they find a dead man and shitters of guns on an upper floor?


Possibly the decoy. Could of been an agent firing from a lower level.



Not saying this is so, still early on, Im just speculating lol.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Blazor"Or like Grimm pointed out, was firing from a lower level, not an upper that dude was on.

So why did they find a dead man and shitters of guns on an upper floor?


Possibly the decoy. Could of been an agent firing from a lower level.



Not saying this is so, still early on, Im just speculating lol.

Why not just wait for the reports?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 03, 2017, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Why not just wait for the reports?


Berry was discussing, I wanted to discuss some possibles too  :laugh:  ac_razz
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
Can we discuss the possibility that maybe, just maybe, police, investigators and forensic investigators are qualified to do their jobs and what they've reported as their findings could be accurate?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 03, 2017, 02:15:43 PM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"I'm still leaning towards him being a Trump-hating ANTIFA sympathiser.  Although it's possible he carried out the attack due to racking up massive gambling debts and wanted to damage the Las Vegas tourism industry.  



People have very short memories though, so I very much doubt something like this will put much of a dent in the earnings of the various businesses and casinos over there.


I'm leaning toward false flag, invisible government is slowly orchestrating, first they bring attention by staging a bunch of incidents now they are trying to bring awareness to the race issue..



check out this angle to it , seems quite plausible





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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.

They went to his room and found him shot by a bullet from one of his guns maybe?

Without forensics I don't know how they would know whether it was a bullet from one of his guns or a bullet from one of theirs.



They should explain why they think he shot himself.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 03, 2017, 03:14:45 PM
Quote from: "RW"Can we discuss the possibility that maybe, just maybe, police, investigators and forensic investigators are qualified to do their jobs and what they've reported as their findings could be accurate?


Maybe some of those, but any from the ABC group I have a distrust for.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 03, 2017, 04:04:53 PM
If ANTIFA are officially linked to the attack (which I doubt will happen, the mainstream media or authorities are rarely interested in exposing the far left),  then it will go a long way in gathering further public support calling for the group to branded a terrorist organisation and banned.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 03, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.

They went to his room and found him shot by a bullet from one of his guns maybe?

Without forensics I don't know how they would know whether it was a bullet from one of his guns or a bullet from one of theirs.



They should explain why they think he shot himself.

Forensics would have been done.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 03, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.

They went to his room and found him shot by a bullet from one of his guns maybe?

Without forensics I don't know how they would know whether it was a bullet from one of his guns or a bullet from one of theirs.



They should explain why they think he shot himself.

Forensics would have been done.

 Forensic? They can't even tell you what happened, you can't be suggesting searching global DNA databases
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 05:24:43 PM
Ya, that is lame except for legal verification. I suspect it means bullets ID's to specific guns .. which ultimately would be done of course.



However, cops who entered room would of course have known exactly what took place and been on radio with their superiors in real time "as it happened". So they would know how it went down from the gitgo



I don't get this 4th floor stuff though. How come we don't see dozens of people coming to media to say they heard and saw shots from there?

There were 100s in the street and right there to hear and see any flashes. I'd have a lot more faith in several consistent witnesses than a video





I do find it disconcerting that "absolutely no connections to others etc." was volunteered so very early in the game ... while other easier to figure out details "cannot be known without full investigation, we'll let you know when we know for certain" (as rightly expected and consistent with reality)
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
Here's one of many good stories



Jonathan Smith is likely to spend the rest of his life with a bullet lodged in the left side of his neck, a never-ending reminder of America's deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.



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Smith, a 30-year-old copy machine repairman, was shot Sunday night while trying to help save people after a gunman opened fire on the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Country Music Festival in Las Vegas. He knows he's one of the lucky ones to be able to walk out of the hospital, even with his severe injuries.



realized what was really going on and told the entire extended family — all nine of them — to hold hands and run. By then, it was a stampede.



Smith was focused on saving his nieces — 22, 18 and 17 years old — but they separated in the crowd. He says he turned back toward the stage to look for them, he saw people hunched behind a sheriff patrol car at the northwest edge of the concert lawn. Others were so frightened they didn't know what to do. He kept shouting, "Active shooter, active shooter, let's go! We have to run."



He grabbed people and told them to follow him toward a handicapped parking area in the direction of the airport, away from Las Vegas Boulevard. It was a large field with several rows of vehicles. Smith and the others crouched down behind one of the last rows of cars.



"I got a few people out of there," Smith said. "You could hear the shots. It sounded like it was coming from all over Las Vegas Boulevard."



A few young girls weren't fully hidden. He stood up and moved toward them to urge them to get on the ground. That's when a bullet struck him in the neck.



"I couldn't feel anything in my neck. There was a warm sensation in my arm," said Smith from the Sunrise Hospital lobby Monday afternoon as he was waiting for his final discharge. He has a fractured collarbone, a cracked rib and a bruised lung. The doctors are leaving the bullet in his neck for now. They worry moving it might cause more damage.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/03/he-helped-people-escape-from-the-storm-of-gunfire-in-las-vegas-now-he-has-a-bullet-in-his-neck/?utm_term=.e40ac815ef27
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 03, 2017, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: "cc"Ya, that is lame except for legal verification. I suspect it means bullet ID's to specific guns .. which ultimately would be done of course.



However, cops who entered room would of course have known exactly what took place and been on radio with their superiors "as it happened".



I don't get this 4th floor stuff though. How come we don't see dozens of people coming to media to say they heard and saw shots from there?

There were 100s in the street and right there to hear and see any flashes.





I do find it disconcerting that "no connections to others etc." was so early in the game ... while as rightly expected, other details "cannot be known without full investigation"


Not sure CC but there has been hushing , lots of key evidence being silenced first reports police suspected multiples which would explain both ANTIFA/ISIS and the multiple floors theory pulled from active media, that video I posted was already removed from live leak, and I'm sure FB will follow ..I uploaded it..



It's a false flag orchestrated by the invisible government to cause panic and despair to result in NWO,Police State and subservience in your government,..  slowly corrode your environment and limit your safety zones, manipulate you with media and standards so you feel your being lead to greatness, sheep being brainwashed to believe in GOD and COUNTRY when so few actually have any power to change it..
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 03, 2017, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: "cc"Here's one of many good stories



Jonathan Smith is likely to spend the rest of his life with a bullet lodged in the left side of his neck, a never-ending reminder of America's deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.



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Smith, a 30-year-old copy machine repairman, was shot Sunday night while trying to help save people after a gunman opened fire on the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Country Music Festival in Las Vegas. He knows he's one of the lucky ones to be able to walk out of the hospital, even with his severe injuries.



realized what was really going on and told the entire extended family — all nine of them — to hold hands and run. By then, it was a stampede.



Smith was focused on saving his nieces — 22, 18 and 17 years old — but they separated in the crowd. He says he turned back toward the stage to look for them, he saw people hunched behind a sheriff patrol car at the northwest edge of the concert lawn. Others were so frightened they didn't know what to do. He kept shouting, "Active shooter, active shooter, let's go! We have to run."



He grabbed people and told them to follow him toward a handicapped parking area in the direction of the airport, away from Las Vegas Boulevard. It was a large field with several rows of vehicles. Smith and the others crouched down behind one of the last rows of cars.



"I got a few people out of there," Smith said. "You could hear the shots. It sounded like it was coming from all over Las Vegas Boulevard."



A few young girls weren't fully hidden. He stood up and moved toward them to urge them to get on the ground. That's when a bullet struck him in the neck.



"I couldn't feel anything in my neck. There was a warm sensation in my arm," said Smith from the Sunrise Hospital lobby Monday afternoon as he was waiting for his final discharge. He has a fractured collarbone, a cracked rib and a bruised lung. The doctors are leaving the bullet in his neck for now. They worry moving it might cause more damage.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/03/he-helped-people-escape-from-the-storm-of-gunfire-in-las-vegas-now-he-has-a-bullet-in-his-neck/?utm_term=.e40ac815ef27






Far Left Fakery.. BlackLivesMatter   :t1929:



make sure we defuse racsism...and whats the best way...



"Black guy shot at country music festival"...  :roll:  :roll:



They totally searched him out how disgusting...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 06:05:04 PM
Thanks for replies



A black family there actually runs against their narrative "country music people are all white supremacist rednecks, T voters and likely KKK"  .. as we all know  LOL



I'm extremely uncomfortable when they almost immediately assure us what it is not ... seen that so many times.

All other details they take the proper time to investigate and inform .. but that one, one of the hardest to determine, zap magic - right now



I'm, not sayin there is an external, I'm just sayin they could not know that when they assured us there were none
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 03, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
CC does love her dark meatballs.   :roll:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 06:44:45 PM
Of course. Black on white is a wonderful contrast  :wink:



You are sounding like Munday who got all anxious when I put forward our track star  Andre De Grasse



oh, and my also liking Usain Bolt knocked the poor fella right off his rocker



 prolly literally  :wink:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on October 03, 2017, 08:08:38 PM
Shit. His girlfriend is Filipino. I wish the Philippines was not in the news especially for this clusterf*ck of a disaster.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Shit. His girlfriend is Filipino. I wish the Philippines was not in the news especially for this clusterf*ck of a disaster.

I thought she was an Indonesian muslime?? :2r4ml1j_th:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on October 03, 2017, 08:12:21 PM
Okay. Maybe you are right. I hope so. Haha!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "RW"They've clearly stated he shot himself.

Not that I'm into the conspiracy theories, but I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion.

They went to his room and found him shot by a bullet from one of his guns maybe?

Without forensics I don't know how they would know whether it was a bullet from one of his guns or a bullet from one of theirs.



They should explain why they think he shot himself.

Forensics would have been done.


EDIT I just saw a picture of Paddocks dead body (I think its a legit pic).  It looks like he fired a handgun into his mouth.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on October 03, 2017, 08:45:06 PM
Where did you see a pic of his dead body?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Where did you see a pic of his dead body?


This is the link to it (I hope this is not against TBC rules) Its halfway down the page--I don't know if its legit or not.



http://breaking911.com/just-extremely-graphic-photo-emerges-appearing-show-deceased-vegas-killer-stephen-paddock/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 03, 2017, 09:04:00 PM
Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.



Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 03, 2017, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
QuoteI thought she was an Indonesian muslim

Initial reports said that c/w pic of Dubai tower in background. Now reports say Filippina



So many weird things, the rapid (almost immediate "no others involved in any way, no causes involved" - They want her badly ... seems they knew where she was but  why has she not been gathered up by Interpol and returned to FBI immediately for questioning?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 03, 2017, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.

I can see where this product could be outlawed. And truthfully I don't think it would bother me if they did that. For someone that enjoys shooting sports it can be a hoot to use one at targets like this guy did but it does kind of do an end around of the automatic weapons laws. It's not as fast as a true auto but still...And yes I am a gun owner, load my own etc. I just don't think I would object to that.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on October 03, 2017, 09:38:21 PM
I want to know why this loser did what he did!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 03, 2017, 09:42:31 PM
QuoteBureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Special Agent in Charge Jill Schneider also told reporters Tuesday that Stephen Paddock had nearly 50 guns in three locations.



She said he had a combination of rifles, shotguns and pistols.



The gun attachment that mimics automatic gunfire is a little-known device called a "bump stock" that was not widely sold. The stocks have been around for less than a decade, and Schneider said officials determined they were legal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/investigators-hunting-down-motive-behind-las-vegas-shooting-rampage/726320001/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 03, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
This guy has tripods set up with multi auto weapons right next to them should one jam or overheat.



On the other end of things, so why are the FBI not on a plane "immediately" upon knowing of the gf? Friendly countries like The Fils & Japan will cooperate on something like this. She is officially a "person of interest" in an extremely  major case ffs



100,000 (at least) was recently wired to the Fils but cops don't know to whom. Again, Fils police would bend over backwards to help on this one including to whose account in a heartbeat. WTF is going on here?



At the very least there is a good chance she can provide info toward the "why" .. and a good chance she knows a hell of a lot



And why did they immediately RUSH to the mic to tell us that they ruled out ANY outside connections (the hardest thing to establish) .. but had no other details of other things at that moment? The later makes sense and is reasonable, the former does not make sense nor is it reasonable





EDIT - Update - The girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter arrived at Los Angeles International Airport where she was met by federal agents, according to AP.



Marilou Danley left for Los Angeles from the Philippines Tuesday night local time, a Filipino Bureau of Immigration spokeswoman told CNN.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:44:25 AM
http://www.miscopy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/video-film-48th-floor-mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting.mp4[/video]
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 04, 2017, 01:17:57 AM
Quote from: "realgrimm"http://www.miscopy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/video-film-48th-floor-mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting.mp4[/video]

That really puts it into the harsh reality
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"It doesnt make sense how he got all those guns into his room undetected.

What do you mean "undetected?"



You walk into the room with a gun in a case, covered in some towels or something.



I could walk into any hotel room with a fucking long gun, undetected.  



What you want?  Fucking metal detectors at your subsidized apartment entrance?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 04, 2017, 02:16:33 AM
That's a lot of shit for an old fart.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 02:18:20 AM
I walk my long guns to my car all the time.  I live in a condo.



I could have a stack of 1,000 long guns, for all anyone here knows.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 04, 2017, 02:23:24 AM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 02:30:31 AM
Again, like I mentioned in my initial post in this thread, this may simply be a Brenda Spencer type shooting...



In these cases, you're just dealing with a sub-standard human, that should have been aborted in the womb.  With a coat hanger.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 04, 2017, 02:37:25 AM
I want to go back living in the country.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"I want to go back living in the country.

Me too.  Well, Langley how it used to be when I grew up.



Fuck, this place turned to shit fast, like in a few years.



Good to know the Chinks have a safe haven to park and launder their filthy money here...



Canada is a joke to the entire world.



Chinks and Pakis will continue to come, and abuse our Nation.



This is exactly why I want a nice, small, White town to live in.



I am fucking done with this immigrant infested shithole.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Berry Sweet on October 04, 2017, 02:49:17 AM
European immigrants would help balance it out.



Personally I think they should stop with the immigration...there is nowhere to live, the infrastructure is so congested, the public school system is fucked up....it needs a chance to settle and catch up.  Each country has its problems.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 02:55:16 AM
I know.



I want to make it clear that I am not a "hateful" person, and do not hate people on an individual basis, but Canada is a fucking joke...



Canada is to blame, for what we see.



I just want out of here...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on October 04, 2017, 03:02:11 AM
I'll leave it at that, Berry...  I need to sleep soon.



More rich Chinks with millions of dirty money need condos built!



And I am the guy that does that...



I'd actually make a decent profit, if it wasn't for the flood of East Indians!



Yeah...  Vancouver became a shithole long ago, but now there is no stopping it!



White Flight, Berry...  Prepare for a better place.  I already am!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on October 04, 2017, 06:25:06 AM
Quote from: "RW"Another tragic and unnecessary loss of life :(



Las Vegas Shooting: 50 Killed and 406 Hurt Near Mandalay Bay



A gunman fired a barrage of bullets on an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas Sunday night, killing at least 50 people and injuring more than 400 others, police said, in the worst mass shooting in modern American history.



From his room on the 32nd floor of a glitzy hotel, the shooter, identified by law enforcement officials as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada, fired shot after shot down on the crowd of more than 22,000, sending terrified concertgoers running for their lives.



"We heard what sounded like firecrackers going off. Then all of a sudden we heard what sounded like a machine gun. People started screaming that they were hit... When we started running out there were probably a couple hundred [people] on the ground," witness Meghan Kearney told MSNBC.



...



The shooting is not believed to be connected to international terrorism.



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461/


It's been a couple of days and the truth hasn't been discovered yet. We don't really know much yet about this shooter but we're getting bits of information. Wouldn't it be just crazy if he was framed? It seems like an elaborate plan but it is possible.  ac_dunno
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 04, 2017, 10:05:25 AM
Of course it's possible, the deepstate/NWO/Jewish elites or whatever the heck you want to call them have done far worse in the past........
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 04, 2017, 10:13:04 AM
Just saw this on FB, thoughts?





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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 04, 2017, 10:32:38 AM
Not the same person. There are differences. Start with the ear lobes.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 04, 2017, 10:37:10 AM
Yeah, the guy on the left has smaller ears..... they do look alike though.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 04, 2017, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.

I can see where this product could be outlawed. And truthfully I don't think it would bother me if they did that. For someone that enjoys shooting sports it can be a hoot to use one at targets like this guy did but it does kind of do an end around of the automatic weapons laws. It's not as fast as a true auto but still...And yes I am a gun owner, load my own etc. I just don't think I would object to that.


I think bumpstocks should be made illegal. Only active military or police should have full auto weapons.  I think silencers (although they had nothing to do with this) ought to be illegal also.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 04, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"Yeah, the guy on the left has smaller ears..... they do look alike though.

No doubt. We all have doppelgangers. No telling what we will be hearing. Anyone that has an agenda will have some kind of misleading info they will put out there. Just like the antifa anarchy vid you posted. They can try to start something but I don't give it any credence as to a full civil war. Too many well armed conservatives for that to happen. Not something I like to envision but don't come down my street wearing a mask and inciting violence. I am one of the most non violent people you will ever run into, but there is a switch that, if needed to protect me and mine, can be flipped.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 04, 2017, 11:33:56 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.

I can see where this product could be outlawed. And truthfully I don't think it would bother me if they did that. For someone that enjoys shooting sports it can be a hoot to use one at targets like this guy did but it does kind of do an end around of the automatic weapons laws. It's not as fast as a true auto but still...And yes I am a gun owner, load my own etc. I just don't think I would object to that.


I think bumpstocks should be made illegal. Only active military or police should have full auto weapons.  I think silencers (although they had nothing to do with this) ought to be illegal also.

I agree. Silencers have no good purpose, nor do they really silence. Actually I think suppressors is the correct term because you can't really silence a firearm. I can see military uses for suppressors but that is all. Law enforcement doesn't need them.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on October 04, 2017, 11:40:22 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "SCOUSE"Yeah, the guy on the left has smaller ears..... they do look alike though.

No doubt. We all have doppelgangers. No telling what we will be hearing. Anyone that has an agenda will have some kind of misleading info they will put out there. Just like the antifa anarchy vid you posted. They can try to start something but I don't give it any credence as to a full civil war. Too many well armed conservatives for that to happen. Not something I like to envision but don't come down my street wearing a mask and inciting violence. I am one of the most non violent people you will ever run into, but there is a switch that, if needed to protect me and mine, can be flipped.


Amen to that!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:12:48 PM
Yup, 4th floor shooter









//http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-bellagio-hotel-shooters/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:22:55 PM
POLICE AUDIO
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"Yup, 4th floor shooter









//http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-bellagio-hotel-shooters/

Fake News



http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/02/hoaxes-fake-news-about-las-vegas-massacre/
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
Don't believe everything your lefty rags put out, your media is paid for ,mines independant, who will gain here..



your sources are a joke RW
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
4th floor shooter video(seen with own eyes)



actual police banner stating multiple shooters



Suspect is a scapegoat used for false flag staging.. US government is making power moves your to stoopid to see, thats your own ignorance..



get the real facts not the ones the government is feeding the people



http://yournewswire.com/neighbor-of-las-vegas-shooter-claims-it-was-a-set-up/[/url]
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:54:32 PM
and why are they suppressing hotel CCTV footage outside Paddock room and outside on hotel property?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
Still a FAKE NEWS source.



Same boring troll.  Same boring garbage.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"and why are they suppressing hotel CCTV footage outside Paddock room and outside on hotel property?

Because it's an active investigation.



 ac_umm
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
Again who says FAKE?..

Where are their credentials and who pays there publisher?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"Again who says FAKE?..

Where are their credentials and who pays there publisher?

Many sites say they are fake news.  Look it up.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 01:06:28 PM
again its a smear campaign for NWO



so let me answer my own question



15 wealthy people own all US news media





//https://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2016/06/01/these-15-billionaires-own-americas-news-media-companies/#435447f3660a



So a more reliable source would be an outlet outside these parameters since none of these "legit" news sources are going to step on each others toes it's an agenda ..Pull your head out of your closed minded lefty ass and leave all your shit in there
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 01:10:18 PM
:oeudC:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 04, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: "RW":oeudC:


Hes right RW. I've known this for a long time. It use to be over 50 owners. I "thought" it was down to 5, but Grimm says its 15 these days, which could be true. Thats a lot of power and influence. THEY started buying up all media long ago, newspapers and all.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "RW":oeudC:


Hes right RW. I've known this for a long time. It use to be over 50 owners. I "thought" it was down to 5, but Grimm says its 15 these days, which could be true. Thats a lot of power and influence. THEY started buying up all media long ago, newspapers and all.

I know how media works Blazor.  That doesn't make FAKE NEWS real.  Those sites just hook you to get you to click for advertising bucks.  They intentionally pimp false information because they have no journalistic or intellectual standards.  They just want you to click links so they make cash.



The fact you guys think these sites are at all credible is baffling.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 04, 2017, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "RW":oeudC:


Hes right RW. I've known this for a long time. It use to be over 50 owners. I "thought" it was down to 5, but Grimm says its 15 these days, which could be true. Thats a lot of power and influence. THEY started buying up all media long ago, newspapers and all.

I know how media works Blazor.  That doesn't make FAKE NEWS real.  Those sites just hook you to get you to click for advertising bucks.  They intentionally pimp false information because they have no journalistic or intellectual standards.  They just want you to click links so they make cash.



The fact you guys think these sites are at all credible is baffling.


Oh I know there is fake news out there, and most of it comes from the big players. Ya know a lot of CIA agents are considered "journalists" with no intellectual standards either and are working for the big players. They have a monopoly on what we are told. ALSO Obummer passed a law that LEGALLY allows the government to lie to us. Operation Mockingbird is another good example of why we need independent sites and not have them silenced by Google and Facebook, etc.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "RW":oeudC:


Hes right RW. I've known this for a long time. It use to be over 50 owners. I "thought" it was down to 5, but Grimm says its 15 these days, which could be true. Thats a lot of power and influence. THEY started buying up all media long ago, newspapers and all.

I know how media works Blazor.  That doesn't make FAKE NEWS real.  Those sites just hook you to get you to click for advertising bucks.  They intentionally pimp false information because they have no journalistic or intellectual standards.  They just want you to click links so they make cash.



The fact you guys think these sites are at all credible is baffling.


Oh I know there is fake news out there, and most of it comes from the big players. Ya know a lot of CIA agents are considered "journalists" with no intellectual standards either and are working for the big players. They have a monopoly on what we are told. ALSO Obummer passed a law that LEGALLY allows the government to lie to us. Operation Mockingbird is another good example of why we need independent sites and not have them silenced by Google and Facebook, etc.

Blazor, can you please confirm you're trolling me so I can give my forehead a break?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
she just won't listen Blazor..



if you get a chance RW watch this video.. you are wrong, the media sources you are getting your facts are all orchestrated and manipulated so people like you, because your government mass manipulates those platforms to spread propaganda for a loooong time you believe whole-heartedly with-out using your own brain and exploring "Alternative Media" again same leftist communist people control the entertainment,sports and all social media deemed "legit"..



your just appearing full retard at this moment, I suggest RW you do more research before trying to dictate what is "fake" or "real" or what is "propaganda"
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 03:30:16 PM
Okay grimm



Hahaha
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 04, 2017, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Blazor, can you please confirm you're trolling me so I can give my forehead a break?


 :laugh:



Sadly Im not, everything I said is true.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 04, 2017, 10:14:44 PM
http://unseenpedia.com/las-vegas-anonymous-4chan-user-warned-attack-3-weeks-advance/[/url]
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 04, 2017, 10:55:24 PM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"Wow, Grimm just verbally fucked you in the ass here RW.  ac_toofunny  





A certain ethnic group's ownership and control of the mainstream media has been common knowledge for those of us in the know for decades.....  



It's only you lemmings and serial deniers who still refuse to believe it.

Can you guys not troll this thread please?  It's a serious tragedy that doesn't deserve your lame games.  Over 59 people lost their lives with hundreds wounded.  It's a massacre, not your sandbox.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 05, 2017, 12:04:34 AM
She is not trying to silence anyone. She even suggested that y'all  use another thread and go for it



Please let's all keep [size=110]THIS thread[/size] on it's topic and off the personal attacks
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: JOE on October 05, 2017, 02:58:50 AM
Quote from: "realgrimm"http://unseenpedia.com/las-vegas-anonymous-4chan-user-warned-attack-3-weeks-advance/[/url]


...hmm. Interesting read.



Still, I don't know the rationale of the theory behind the shooting:


QuoteA new theory has been emerging in the wake of the revelations above. With new information now breaking that the shooter was a rather active vegas gambler with recent large transactions to his name. Could Stephen have simply been threatened into doing this horrible act by some third party, in the name of paying off some possible large gambling debts? His family as well may have been threatened.



If Stephen wasn't acting of his own accord, then a number of the seemingly unexplained parts to this whole story does start making a lot more sense. Even if this is all one giant coincidence. The fact does remain that people like Chertoff and those behind similar companies do stand to profit quite nicely in the months to come from the new security panic this incident will likely produce.


...If you make a place so goddam dangerous, that tourists stay away from the place, therby driving down profits of the casinos, how will security companies make money off of a sharply decreased tourism? Wouldn't it have been better to retain the tourist traffic by informing the FBI about an impending attack?



Or do you figure that added security would become a 'must-have' and even greater amounts would be spent on it?



Still, if far fewer people come to Las Vegas after this, I'm not sure how that can help the security companies in the long run. Of do they just figger, they'll lose for a while, but after the tourists come back, they'll be making even more money than ever?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2017, 08:57:22 AM
Actress Kirstie Alley blames the shooting on psychiatric drugs in a tweet..



As far as I know there's no evidence the shooter was using any psychiatric drugs
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 05, 2017, 09:32:48 AM
I heard that one too Fash, but I don't know any prescribed drug making you go on a murderous rampage
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 05, 2017, 09:39:55 AM
Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "realgrimm"http://unseenpedia.com/las-vegas-anonymous-4chan-user-warned-attack-3-weeks-advance/[/url]


...hmm. Interesting read.



Still, I don't know the rationale of the theory behind the shooting:


QuoteA new theory has been emerging in the wake of the revelations above. With new information now breaking that the shooter was a rather active vegas gambler with recent large transactions to his name. Could Stephen have simply been threatened into doing this horrible act by some third party, in the name of paying off some possible large gambling debts? His family as well may have been threatened.



If Stephen wasn't acting of his own accord, then a number of the seemingly unexplained parts to this whole story does start making a lot more sense. Even if this is all one giant coincidence. The fact does remain that people like Chertoff and those behind similar companies do stand to profit quite nicely in the months to come from the new security panic this incident will likely produce.


...If you make a place so goddam dangerous, that tourists stay away from the place, therby driving down profits of the casinos, how will security companies make money off of a sharply decreased tourism? Wouldn't it have been better to retain the tourist traffic by informing the FBI about an impending attack?



Or do you figure that added security would become a 'must-have' and even greater amounts would be spent on it?



Still, if far fewer people come to Las Vegas after this, I'm not sure how that can help the security companies in the long run. Of do they just figger, they'll lose for a while, but after the tourists come back, they'll be making even more money than ever?  :confused1:


Liberal platform for gun control is more likely since Vegas has the most lax gun laws, their true agenda being to attack and break down western culture to start in motion a civil war so the UN will be forced to step in, with it police state and NWO  forcing Trump outta office ..IMO
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 07, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
Hillary says she screamed into a pillow (over trump winning)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/hillary-tells-screaming-pillow-election-night-shock-irish-tv-interview/



Isn't that what Steve paddocks girlfriend said he did?

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/vegas-shooter-s-girlfriend-says-he-would-lie-bed-moaning-n808156



hmmmm ac_umm
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2017, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Hillary says she screamed into a pillow (over trump winning)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/hillary-tells-screaming-pillow-election-night-shock-irish-tv-interview/



Isn't that what Steve paddocks girlfriend said he did?

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/vegas-shooter-s-girlfriend-says-he-would-lie-bed-moaning-n808156



hmmmm ac_umm

 ac_dunno
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 07, 2017, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.

I can see where this product could be outlawed. And truthfully I don't think it would bother me if they did that. For someone that enjoys shooting sports it can be a hoot to use one at targets like this guy did but it does kind of do an end around of the automatic weapons laws. It's not as fast as a true auto but still...And yes I am a gun owner, load my own etc. I just don't think I would object to that.


I think bumpstocks should be made illegal. Only active military or police should have full auto weapons.  I think silencers (although they had nothing to do with this) ought to be illegal also.

All you need is a rubber band. Have to go to you tube to watch I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5XzQ1BS7gU
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on October 08, 2017, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "kiebers"Linking is fine. Looks legit to me. The other pics of the room show the weapons. Bump fire stocks on the ones I see.

This guy did this video yesterday based on the sound of the shooting.


Wow, I had no idea that changing the stock would make a semi auto become full auto.  Obviously it does.

I can see where this product could be outlawed. And truthfully I don't think it would bother me if they did that. For someone that enjoys shooting sports it can be a hoot to use one at targets like this guy did but it does kind of do an end around of the automatic weapons laws. It's not as fast as a true auto but still...And yes I am a gun owner, load my own etc. I just don't think I would object to that.


I think bumpstocks should be made illegal. Only active military or police should have full auto weapons.  I think silencers (although they had nothing to do with this) ought to be illegal also.

All you need is a rubber band. Have to go to you tube to watch I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5XzQ1BS7gU


Looks like rubbers bands are going to have to be banned now too :laugh:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: kiebers on October 08, 2017, 11:35:24 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Looks like rubbers bands are going to have to be banned now too :laugh:

IKR!!!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 08, 2017, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Actress Kirstie Alley blames the shooting on psychiatric drugs in a tweet..



As far as I know there's no evidence the shooter was using any psychiatric drugs

Kirstie Alley is a Scientologist.  They are programmed to hate and blame psychiatry for a lot of the ills in the world because L. Ron Hubbard's theories like Diantetics were strongly rejected by the psychology community.  Hubbard was a prolific writer and wrote instructional manuals that require a Scientologist to reject everything that comes out of psychological science aside from the utter bullshit he wrote. There's stuff in his books that instruct you how to wash windows FFS.



Kirstie Alley has proven herself to be nothing more than a Scientology shill for years.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on October 08, 2017, 12:26:44 PM
Don't mess with Scientology they'll have you WHACKED
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 08, 2017, 01:10:26 PM
Motive hiding in plain sight ??



Here's a fellow from British think tank whose job is "to focus on the analysis of economic and political issues and outcomes".



 Make of this what you will, but he writes:



The level of premeditation is unusual and crystal clear from his mass buying of guns and the cautious systematic smuggling operation to ferry them to his room together with the illegal modifications and the position of the room he chose and occupied for several days beforehand.



This denotes a deeply serious commitment to his act. And one which leaves no doubt that act was conceived to generate the maximum possible publicity.



The question then is: 'publicity' for what exactly?



And the answer would appear to be 'nothing that can be identified'.





But consider the moral behind the following joke (I assure you it has a point beyond humour):



A known smuggler crosses the border every day at a particular crossing. Every day his suitcase is searched and nothing is found.



After 20 years he crosses for a last time and confides to the policeman who has been searching him all that while that he is retiring.



The policeman asks him 'Ok - since you're clean today and will never cross the border again tell me this - you've been smuggling - right?'



The man says 'Right.'.The policeman says 'Smuggling what?'



The man says 'Suitcases.'



Hold that 'hiding in plain sight' concept as we return to the shooting - This British think tank person's letter as reported by Mark Steyn (//https)
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 09, 2017, 10:23:06 PM
OK. nobody liked the joke.



Let's see if this catches the eye - A TOTALLY Changed Story



http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html



Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren't able to pinpoint the gunman's location sooner.



Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.



They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman's attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest's room.



But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now don't know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.



Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police have said that Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.



Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel.



In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock's suite.



Police were not in a hurry to enter Paddock's suite because the security guard's arrival had halted the shooting, police implied in previously describing the timeline. Paddock had killed himself by the time officers entered the room, they said.



In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his "assumption" that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his spy cameras, "observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out how to escape at that point."



In another news conference last week, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Campos "had notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived."





Well I'm sorry, but the cops tales have stunk on this thing from the git-go ... no idea of motive etc. my ass!! .

After this 180 reversal of timing (bizarre)  ... timing they HAD to know immediately & stuck to for a week until today, I don't believe a word of what they have been telling us ... This is not error, this is deliberate lying for a full week
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 10:28:34 PM
I saw the revision about when the security guard was shot on the news today cc.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Blazor on October 09, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
"Breaking news with CC!"
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 10:47:02 PM
Do you think the police are covering up a probable motive cc?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: RW on October 09, 2017, 10:51:35 PM
The police don't cover for ISIS IHJ.



It's not unusual for case details to be ironed out as the information is compiled.  To suggest a cover up based on that would be weak at best.



They might well know motive and not be releasing it.  That's their prerogative as part of their investigation.  Again, not suspicious.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: "RW"The police don't cover for ISIS IHJ.



It's not unusual for case details to be ironed out as the information is compiled.  To suggest a cover up based on that would be weak at best.



They might well know motive and not be releasing it.  That's their prerogative as part of their investigation.  Again, not suspicious.

I never said they did. But, the investigation looks sloppy so far.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 09, 2017, 11:14:15 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Do you think the police are covering up a probable motive cc?

I'll just say that I don't believe a word they are telling us. Did you see the demeaner of the chief a couple of days ago? It was bizarre. Never have seen such a thing before in a situation like this. Even today he would not look into the camera.



I have no problem with legitimately holding back if putting something out would hurt the investigation.



I do have a problem with deliberately lying for even a moment ... let alone reinforcing a lie over and over for a week .. and then as part of the lie also saying repeatedly that "the security guy's arrival stopped the shooter". The hell it did and they knew it all along .. in the first hour



As to "why" there's one likely and one not so likely motive to me ... and I suppose for a sick thrill is also remotely possible
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 11:19:58 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Do you think the police are covering up a probable motive cc?

I'll just say that I don't believe a word they are telling us. Did you see the demeaner of the chief a couple of days ago? It was bizarre. Even today he would not look into the camera.



I have no problem with legitimately holding back if putting something out would hurt the investigation.



I do have a problem with deliberately lying for even a moment ... let alone reinforcing a lie over and over for a week .. and then also saying "the security guy's arrival stopped the shooter". The hell it did and they knew it all along .. in the first hour



As to "why" there's one likely and one not so likely motive to me ... and I suppose for a sick thrill is also remotely possible

I agree they would've known that from the beginning of the investigation..



My brother is a policeman and said the same thing.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 09, 2017, 11:32:36 PM
Yes. It was the guard who triggered the police 6 minutes before the first "outside" shot happened



The thing is that this timing  info could jeopardise nothing in the investigation, yet they lied over and over.



Another REALLY bizarre one is this claimed "waited an hour" before going in "because they figured he stopped shooting after the guard located him". That didn't wash even if the original proclaimed timing was accurate. We know now that story  was pure an d volunteered bullshit



Bullshit. Cops don't do that. They assume nothing except the shooter "could" be about to start shooting again at  many shots per second at any moment and get to him as fast as possible



And why this guy anyhow? This is an FBI case ffs
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 11:39:43 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Do you think the police are covering up a probable motive cc?

I'll just say that I don't believe a word they are telling us. Did you see the demeaner of the chief a couple of days ago? It was bizarre. Even today he would not look into the camera.



I have no problem with legitimately holding back if putting something out would hurt the investigation.



I do have a problem with deliberately lying for even a moment ... let alone reinforcing a lie over and over for a week .. and then also saying "the security guy's arrival stopped the shooter". The hell it did and they knew it all along .. in the first hour



As to "why" there's one likely and one not so likely motive to me ... and I suppose for a sick thrill is also remotely possible

I agree they would've known that from the beginning of the investigation..



My brother is a policeman and said the same thing.

You never miss an opportunity to remind us your kid brother is a cop.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 09, 2017, 11:43:21 PM
That's OK ... and especially so when he agrees with us  :wink:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
Quote from: "cc"That's OK ... and especially so when he agrees with us  :wink:

I'll let it  slide this  time.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 09, 2017, 11:47:55 PM
That's mighty "white" of you



 :laugh:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2017, 11:52:55 PM
Quote from: "cc"That's mighty "white" of you



 :laugh:

 :t1929:  acc_angry  :mad:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on October 10, 2017, 12:06:57 AM
:roll:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on October 10, 2017, 12:09:01 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Do you think the police are covering up a probable motive cc?

I'll just say that I don't believe a word they are telling us. Did you see the demeaner of the chief a couple of days ago? It was bizarre. Even today he would not look into the camera.



I have no problem with legitimately holding back if putting something out would hurt the investigation.



I do have a problem with deliberately lying for even a moment ... let alone reinforcing a lie over and over for a week .. and then also saying "the security guy's arrival stopped the shooter". The hell it did and they knew it all along .. in the first hour



As to "why" there's one likely and one not so likely motive to me ... and I suppose for a sick thrill is also remotely possible

I agree they would've known that from the beginning of the investigation..



My brother is a policeman and said the same thing.

You never miss an opportunity to remind us your kid brother is a cop.

It's true, I am proud of him.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on December 22, 2017, 08:48:21 AM
And well you should be ^^


QuoteThe police don't cover for ISIS

Oh yes they do. They do everything they can to avoid saying acts of violence are not done for islam whether IS or not



See Oz 2 days ago for just one example ... see many other acts around the world



Anyhow, while maybe this one is not islam, this one has been very wrong from the gitgo



Las Vegas shooting: FBI official says info on motive may take until next October to release (//http)



Want to finally know why Stephen Paddock gunned down 58 people in Las Vegas in early October?



Be prepared to wait a while – possibly until next October – the chief of the FBI's Las Vegas office revealed this week during an interview in which he said the agency probably wouldn't brief the public until their report is released sometime before the tragedy's first anniversary.



"Now that's a long time for some people, but speaking for the FBI, that's light speed, all right?" Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Wednesday.



Rouse said reports from other agencies investigating the mass shooting will be released at different times, but the FBI's one is "focusing a large part on the why" which is "what everybody wants to know."



"that's light speed, all right?"  ... ummm, really? What the hell is going on here?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 11:49:26 AM
What are they hiding?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on December 22, 2017, 12:18:32 PM
Something .. . that's for sure



Right from day one handling of this has stunk .... and gotten progressively  worse as time went on
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: "cc"Something .. . that's for sure



Right from day one handling of this has stunk .... and gotten progressively  worse as time went on

Incompetence could be what they are hiding.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on December 22, 2017, 02:03:53 PM
They need 10 months to turn the shooter into a right-wing white supremacist, you can't rush important work like that.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"They need 10 months to turn the shooter into a right-wing white supremacist, you can't rush important work like that.

I don't know about that. I think Fash is on the right track. Gross errors occurred and they need time to bury the evidence.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on December 22, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Could well be. There were many conflicting statements of how forces acted in the early days. "Forget what I said yesterday - here's what happened" .. . then next day, more of the same



 I'm also very  suspicious that they are hiding motive ... it appeared they were from day one, when one very likely motive seemed obvious and  still does. I can see them reluctant to state it.



Technically, all aspects of this thing have been a mess from day one - the top cop didn't act like a top cop at any time ... even appeared bonkers at times ... bonkers or hiding stuff .. stumbling over his words ... out of breath at times, sweating when no one else was  etc.



And where is the FBI? They were there early on. Have not heard a word from or about them them since. I expected this would be  an FBI run case from the beginning



If it were a right-wing white supremacist or even a right winger, we would have been heard  that from the very beginning ... a dream come true for the city govt officials to rush to the mics and pontificate, curse and blame Trump, curse and blame GOP etc etc ... but .. they did not
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on December 22, 2017, 09:11:51 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"They need 10 months to turn the shooter into a right-wing white supremacist, you can't rush important work like that.

I don't know about that. I think Fash is on the right track. Gross errors occurred and they need time to bury the evidence.


I'm mostly joking.  But I am sure the lefties would love to make him into one even if he's not and the FBI has shown how partisan it is with its giving hIllary a pass and going after Trump.



But more seriously--With changing time lines and changing stories and weird public relations they have handled the whole thing badly from the beginning.  A bizarre ten month delay is more of the same.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 01:21:09 AM
The girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter told authorities that they would likely find her fingerprints on some of Stephen Paddock's bullets because she sometimes assisted him in loading ammunition into magazines, court documents unsealed on Friday revealed.[/quote]
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 01:32:27 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"The girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter told authorities that they would likely find her fingerprints on some of Stephen Paddock's bullets because she sometimes assisted him in loading ammunition into magazines, court documents unsealed on Friday revealed.
[/quote]
But, she has no knowledge of what he was planning.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2018, 01:43:30 AM
She'll walk.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 12:14:33 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"She'll walk.

She didn't commit a crime.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 13, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
True ... IF "she had no knowledge of what he was planning"
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"She'll walk.

She didn't commit a crime.
'

'

She could be considered an accessory if she knew about or aided in the crime.  But then they said she was quite submissive,  if he told her to help load the guns she may  not have known what they were being loaded for and didn't ask.



I guess It depends whether they think she really knew what was happening, and or whether they want to take the the time and resources to go after her for it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"She'll walk.

She didn't commit a crime.
'

'

She could be considered an accessory if she knew about or aided in the crime.  But then they said she was quite submissive,  if he told her to help load the guns she may  not have known what they were being loaded for and didn't ask.



I guess It depends whether they think she really knew what was happening, and or whether they want to take the the time and resources to go after her for it.

I don't believe she had any knowledge of this, but even if she did, it would be very difficult to it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"She'll walk.

She didn't commit a crime.
'

'

She could be considered an accessory if she knew about or aided in the crime.  But then they said she was quite submissive,  if he told her to help load the guns she may  not have known what they were being loaded for and didn't ask.



I guess It depends whether they think she really knew what was happening, and or whether they want to take the the time and resources to go after her for it.

I don't believe she had any knowledge of this, but even if she did, it would be very difficult to prove it.




If i were the prosecutor I wouldn't prosecute just on the basis of her loading some of the ammo, I would however, if she was otherwise deceptive or uncooperative or there was more evidence she was inviolved.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"She'll walk.

She didn't commit a crime.
'

'

She could be considered an accessory if she knew about or aided in the crime.  But then they said she was quite submissive,  if he told her to help load the guns she may  not have known what they were being loaded for and didn't ask.



I guess It depends whether they think she really knew what was happening, and or whether they want to take the the time and resources to go after her for it.

I don't believe she had any knowledge of this, but even if she did, it would be very difficult to prove it.


If i were the prosecutor I wouldn't prosecute just on the basis of her loading some of the ammo, I would however, if she was otherwise deceptive or uncooperative or there was more evidence she was inviolved.

And that's what they're looking for.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 14, 2018, 11:05:20 AM
Still nothing on motive. This whole case has been a fiasco of screwups, misinformation and deliberate omission from day one.



 We all knew day one the motive. It's just not a "convenient" one for the powers that be
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2018, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: "cc"Still nothing on motive. This whole case has been a fiasco of screwups, misinformation and deliberate omission from day one.



 We all knew day one the motive. It's just not a "convenient" one for the powers that be

I don't know the motive.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't know the motive.

Sometimes the motive is nothing more than just wanting to kill people.



A serial killer has really no other motive, other than the fact that they want to kill people.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 15, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
Serial killer means continuing crimes ... and most usually on one type of person. They don't intend to die either .. and they don't do themselves in ... and they expect to get away with it.



 This was a one off and the effort to get as many of those at the event as he could  .. knowing he was toast at the end .... and according to police he did himself with out a fight
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on January 15, 2018, 01:21:43 AM
I guess what I meant to imply, was that there are times when there just isn't a clear motive, other than to kill people.  I used the serial killer reference as an example of such mindset...  Why do they do what they do?  Sometimes, they just want to kill people, and that's just the reason!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 15, 2018, 12:08:03 PM
Yes, killers most always " just want to kill people"  ....... people they don't like or don't like what they represent.



Take a look at who the victims were and what they represent ... "deplorable"  "gun & bible clingers" .. Regular down home folk are hated by a certain ilk  .... not the killer image authorities and press want  



Let me put it another way - If it were a group of left wingnuts, the motive would have been assumed, accepted and  broadcast universally and continually ... including put out by authorities as likely motive. He would have been branded a white nazi type from the gitgo ... and made overnight into an icon  of white right hate.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2018, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: "cc"Still nothing on motive. This whole case has been a fiasco of screwups, misinformation and deliberate omission from day one.



 We all knew day one the motive. It's just not a "convenient" one for the powers that be

I remember an islamic connection to the shooter, but I  never heard anything more about it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 15, 2018, 12:23:32 PM
There was talk, guessing I think based on several Dubai trips . And not being told "anything" as to motive" I guess it's a remote option until proven otherwise



I have never seen such a mismanaged case  ... . but the mismanagement / 180 degree story changes from day one seemed because they were hiding things. .. The more the head cop talked, the worse he looked .. .story changes ... sweating, stammering, never looking into camera  .

Then total silence
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2018, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: "cc"There was talk, guessing I think based on several Dubai trips . And not being told "anything" as to motive" I guess it's a remote option until proven otherwise



I have never seen such a mismanaged case  ... . but the mismanagement / 180 degree story changes from day one seemed because they were hiding things. .. The more the head cop talked, the worse he looked. Then total silence

It does seem odd the way it has been handled.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on January 15, 2018, 12:30:58 PM
It has been "odd" all along. "Odd" always equals incompetence and / or things to hide ..and/  or motive not what they would have liked it to be



Bottom line, killer was not suspected of anything before it happened ... he had the luxury of waiting and picking any type of crowd anywhere



It is almost unheard of to see "random" victims picked ... most always the victim-type is carefully chosen and is the motive
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2018, 01:16:39 PM
Quote from: "cc"It has been "odd" all along. "Odd" always equals incompetence and / or things to hide ..and/  or motive not what they would have liked it to be



Bottom line, killer was not suspected of anything before it happened ... he had the luxury of waiting and picking any type of crowd anywhere



It is almost unheard of to see "random" victims picked ... most always the victim-type is carefully chosen and is the motive

My brother is a policeman and he has said some of these same comments about the Las Vegas mass shooting.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: mugwump on January 15, 2018, 08:33:47 PM
Strange indeed.
QuoteSTRANGE: Just Released Police Docs Reveal Las Vegas Shooter's Bizarre Behavior, But Still No Motive

One hundred days later, still no answer as to why Stephen Paddock opened fire, killing nearly 60 people.



The documents do not reveal a motive, and more than 100 days after the shooting it appears law enforcement officials are no closer to determining why Paddock decided to murder concert-goers by firing down from his "panoramic suite" at the Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino.



They do, however, reveal the role his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, had in helping Paddock accumulate his massive cache of weaponry and even prepare his guns.



According to the Los Angeles Times, the FBI quickly identified Danley "as the most likely person who aided or abetted Stephen Paddock." Almost as soon as she was in FBI custody, Danley informed agents that her fingerprints would be on bullets found in Paddock's magazines because she'd helped him load the bullets. Paddock also used her casino players card to secure his massive Mandalay Bay suite.



Although she was never arrested, investigators believe she may have known something was afoot.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/25842/strange-just-released-police-docs-reveal-las-vegas-emily-zanotti#
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Angry White Male on January 15, 2018, 11:53:37 PM
You have to understand, that the minds of mass/serial killers don't work like ours do.



Sometimes they have a motive, other times they just want to kill.



There are just some people that want the biggest kill count, for no reason other than to kill the most people.  They may not even be left or right leaning!  They may or may not even be religious.



They are simply equally opportunity killers.  Some choose to hunt their prey one at a time.  Others attempt to win the prize in a 'one-shot' go at it.



Remember, there are simply times when science cannot explain exactly how the brain works, or why it does what it does.  We would like an answer...  a motive.  Sometimes, the answer is just this simple:  The guy was fucked, and wanted to kill a lot of people.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: realgrimm on April 06, 2018, 09:37:57 PM
:tease:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on April 06, 2018, 09:47:18 PM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on April 06, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
I'd forgotten all about this, so was it another false flag or the work of a genuine nutjob?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on April 06, 2018, 09:56:07 PM
Definitely a Jew.



Didn't waste a single bullet.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
I was expecting an update.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Aryan on April 06, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
I just remember the official explanation being about as believable as the authority's version of events for 9/11.



It was apparent they weren't being honest and that multiple shooters were most likely involved.....
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: "SCOUSE"I just remember the official explanation being about as believable as the authority's version of events for 9/11.



It was apparent they weren't being honest and that multiple shooters were most likely involved.....

There have been problems with this investigation from the beginning....cc has posted about that.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on April 06, 2018, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was expecting an update.

Vegas Update: 15 jews positioned in separate rooms shot and killed over 50 country / western trump voters  .... using modified American ammo in Uzis



911 update: 19 jews snuck into Saudi Arabia  .. tricked the US into thinking they were entering the US as Arab students etc.  ... then drove planes into buildings killing 3,000
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on April 06, 2018, 10:23:46 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was expecting an update.

Vegas Update: 15 jews positioned in separate rooms shot and killed over 50 country / western trump voters


And I bet they got loyalty points, too!!!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was expecting an update.

Vegas Update: 15 jews positioned in separate rooms shot and killed over 50 country / western trump voters  .... using modified American ammo in Uzis



911 update: 19 jews snuck into Saudi Arabia  .. tricked the US into thinking they were Arab students etc.  ... then drove planes into buildings killing 3,000

I knew it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on April 06, 2018, 10:30:45 PM
I guess inside we all knew it all along ^^


Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was expecting an update.

Vegas Update: 15 jews positioned in separate rooms shot and killed over 50 country / western trump voters


And I bet they got loyalty points, too!!!


Of course. Loyalty points and matzo balls for life
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2018, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: "cc"I guess inside we all knew it all along


Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I was expecting an update.

Vegas Update: 15 jews positioned in separate rooms shot and killed over 50 country / western trump voters


And I bet they got loyalty points, too!!!


Loyalty points and matzo balls for life

Thanks, you're a mensch.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on April 06, 2018, 10:34:40 PM
:shog:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on April 06, 2018, 10:37:35 PM
I don't know what either of those things are...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on April 06, 2018, 11:32:04 PM
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Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on April 06, 2018, 11:32:48 PM
oops - replied to a post that evaporated
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Bricktop on April 07, 2018, 01:58:21 AM
Its 30C here today...that would explain the evaporation.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: cc on August 03, 2018, 03:27:36 PM
CASE CLOSED Vegas Review-Journal (//https)



Updated August 3, 2018 - 12:03 pm

Las Vegas police have concluded their investigation into the Oct. 1 shooting with no clear idea of why Stephen Paddock murdered 58 people and wounded hundreds more.



Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo released the Metropolitan Police Department's final report on Friday but said investigators were not able to determine a motive for the deadliest random shooting in U.S. history.



"What we have been able to answer are the questions of who, what, when, where and how," Lombardo said at a news briefing. "What we have not been able to definitively answer is the 'why' Stephen Paddock committed this act."



[I say Bullsht. So many times the police screwed up and also mislead the public, I say they don't want to know why .. or pretty much know and don't want the world to know why.]
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2018, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: "cc"CASE CLOSED Vegas Review-Journal (//https)



Updated August 3, 2018 - 12:03 pm

Las Vegas police have concluded their investigation into the Oct. 1 shooting with no clear idea of why Stephen Paddock murdered 58 people and wounded hundreds more.



Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo released the Metropolitan Police Department's final report on Friday but said investigators were not able to determine a motive for the deadliest random shooting in U.S. history.



"What we have been able to answer are the questions of who, what, when, where and how," Lombardo said at a news briefing. "What we have not been able to definitively answer is the 'why' Stephen Paddock committed this act."



[I say Bullsht. So many times the police screwed up and also mislead the public, I say they don't want to know why.]

I can understand if anyone doesn't believe the Las Vegas Police.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: Chuck Bronson on August 04, 2018, 01:38:39 AM
People often find this hard to understand, but there are some people that are simply nuts, or simply 'snap' and do these things.  Actually, it is a VERY common reason behind most mass shooters doing what they do...  



We DEMAND an answer...  I will state that often you will not get a satisfactory answer, as there isn't one to produce.  Why do mass murderers do what they do?  Usually it's simply because they like killing.  Shooters are often in the same class as your 'Ted Bundy's.'



You want an answer?  There isn't one.  Their brains don't function properly, and it's as simple as that.
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