Title: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
More than 20 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas.
KSAT News reports that an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas at about 11:30 am on Sunday morning and began shooting.
CNN reports that the gunman was killed after a chase with police into a neighboring county, but its not clear if he was killed by police of killed himself.
Not sure of all details - story has changed somewhat from earlier with regard to numbers & how shooter died
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 03:49:52 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 03:49:52 PM
At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.
The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.
A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 03:52:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 03:52:10 PM
UPDATE -Quote from: "cc"http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/multiple-people-dead-after-mass-shooting-at-texas-church.html
At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.
The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.
A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.
It doesn't matter the motive, he'll be classified as a right wing domestic terrorist.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
UPDATE -Quote from: "cc"http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/multiple-people-dead-after-mass-shooting-at-texas-church.html
At least 27 people have been killed following a mass shooting at a church in a small town outside San Antonio, Texas. At about 10:30 am Sunday, an as-of-yet unidentified gunman walked into First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas and began shooting.
The precise number of dead and wounded remains unclear, but Wilson County commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. has told news organizations that a least 27 people were killed. It seems that at least a dozen people were also injured in the attack. It appears that children were among the victims.
A KSAT journalist reported that neighbors told him that it sounded as though the gunman had reloaded multiple times, and that around 50 people may have been attending the service that was underway at the time of the attack.
It doesn't matter the motive, he'll be classified as a right wing domestic terrorist.
There will be people who politicize tragedies to suit their agendas..
This a horrendous and my heart pains for the victims and their loved ones.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 04:29:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 04:29:48 PM
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Angry White Male on November 05, 2017, 06:26:16 PM
Post by: Angry White Male on November 05, 2017, 06:26:16 PM
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 07:12:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 07:12:51 PM
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
Somewhat .. well sort of .. used to studying into tragedies, but I can't get this one out of my mind
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
Several photos show almost all whites outside of church. Looks like typical small town folk.Quote from: "cc"
Somewhat .. well sort of .. used to studying into tragedies, but I can't get this one out of my mind
Any word who the shooter was and their motive cc?
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:10:21 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:10:21 PM
Again, facts all new so take with grain of salt until solidified
No motive mentioned so far
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
There was word of someone chasing him out of church
"dishonorable" discharge often means no "legal" right to guns
(again, early reporting)
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Devin Kelley .. found dead in vehicle nearby ... don't know if cop, self or a good guy with a gun who chased himQuote from: "cc"
There was word of someone chasing him out of church
"dishonorable" discharge often means no "legal" right to guns
(again, early reporting)
I was just watching CBC news cc..
He died after being ran off the road by someone..
Still no word about motive.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:44:45 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:44:45 PM
CBS Image before recently shaving
After shaving
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:56:14 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 09:56:14 PM
They always do a
Here's an unnerving facebook image (internet stuff now taken down)
Devin Kelley's LinkedIn page says that he was a VBS "teacher aid (sic)" for "VBS AT KINGSVILLE FBC" and notes, "Dates volunteered Jun 2013 – Jun 2013 Volunteer duration 1 mo. Cause Children. Teaching children ages 4-6 at vocational bible schools helping their minds grow and prosper."
However, multiple children are reportedly among those shot in the church.
Kelley's Facebook page also showed that he had liked pages devoted to atheism, as well as those on German Shepherds, Glocks, and karate. As causes on LinkedIn, he indicated he cared about civil rights and social action, animal welfare, children, arts and culture, the environment, health, and human rights.
Despite rumors on social media, there is no evidence that he was a member of Antifa or carried out the attack on behalf of the far left group. There is also no evidence he converted to Islam and was a practicing Muslim, as other social media rumors have claimed. Although he liked multiple atheist-related pages on Facebook, it is not known if he considered himself to be an atheist or was simply interested in it. Some doctored photos have circulated on social media, and people identified the wrong people as suspects early on.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 10:09:51 PM
Post by: cc on November 05, 2017, 10:09:51 PM
This seems to work without tags - When I add "video" tags, not working
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
For what it's worth - sounds quite detailed & straightQuote from: "cc"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=119&v=rwYd2kIZxk4
This seems to work without tags - When I add "video" tags, not working
Yeah, I noticed that too. Kiebs has sticky thread about that.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 12:02:20 AM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 12:02:20 AM
"Heavy.com"
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Angry White Male on November 06, 2017, 12:05:48 AM
Post by: Angry White Male on November 06, 2017, 12:05:48 AM
Pretty standard fare, for a nutcase.
At least he is now stone cold dead also, thus saving the US taxpayers the cost of trial and housing in jail for life.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: kiebers on November 06, 2017, 12:07:08 AM
Post by: kiebers on November 06, 2017, 12:07:08 AM
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 12:17:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 12:17:04 AM
Just found out one of my wife's cousins husband has family there. All are safe. None were at that church.Quote from: "kiebers"
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 12:17:46 AM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 12:17:46 AM
Just found out one of my wife's cousins husband has family there. All are safe. None were at that church.Quote from: "kiebers"
Wow. That brings it close to home keibs
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
also the person who shot him, as he was fleeing, used a gun to help stop him from getting away. That gun may have saved lives.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 01:52:35 PM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 01:52:35 PM
Officials say the guy had bad blood with mother in law who was a member of the church .. a likely motive (in his mind)
She was not even present at the time and how did he get from in-law dispute to killing kids, teens and adults?
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
Post by: cc on November 06, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
Stephen Willeford managed to shoot Devin Kelley before jumping in another man's truck and chasing him down, the Daily Mail reported.
Kelley blew himself away after wiping out in his SUV, according to Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 04:04:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 04:04:03 PM
The man hailed as a hero for confronting the Texas mass shooter during his rampage is a sharpshooting plumber with no military background — who hit the gunman through a gap in his body armor, according to a report.Quote from: "cc"
Stephen Willeford managed to shoot Devin Kelley before jumping in another man's truck and chasing him down, the Daily Mail reported.
Kelley blew himself away after wiping out in his SUV, according to Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt.http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/sharpshooting-plumber-fired-shot-that-took-down-texas-church-gunman/
Did he go off the road because he was shot?
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 06:23:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 06:23:29 PM
Texas shooter denied gun license
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 06:28:00 PM
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 06:30:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 06:30:31 PM
So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
The radical left is not in bed with Christianity, so unlike Islam, it's not a protected species.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on November 06, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
The left likes to protray themselves as the kings of antiracism, the guardians of racial equality and fairness. But when it comes right down to it they play favorites based on race and religion as much as anyone, even supremacy groups. They just have a different heirarchy in mind.So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
The radical left is not in bed with Christianity, so unlike Islam, it's not a protected species.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 04:47:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 04:47:07 AM
So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
The radical left is not in bed with Christianity, so unlike Islam, it's not a protected species.
I believe that with antifa and BLM..
And considering the ruckus that sign started as a joke caused that you posted in politics, they are very hypocritical.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2017, 07:20:33 AM
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2017, 07:20:33 AM
And acts like a leftie anarchist..
Shooting church going christians..
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2017, 07:23:23 AM
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2017, 07:23:23 AM
So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
Its not politically correct..
Christians bad...
Muslims good..
White men bad..
Coloured men and white women good..
Heterosexual white man bad...
Phaggots good..
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:40:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:40:37 AM
So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
The radical left is not in bed with Christianity, so unlike Islam, it's not a protected species.
Just like Trudeau likes to portray himself as the guardian of the middle class.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
So if someone shoots up a mosque its islamophobia?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
But when an atheist shoots up a church its not Christophobia??
How does that work????
The radical left is not in bed with Christianity, so unlike Islam, it's not a protected species.
Just like Stalin was with the people.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 07:56:46 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 07:56:46 PM
Throw a stack of guns amongst a bunch of psychotic, wayward, violence-fed retards, and you reap what you sow.
It's a great example of an entire nation believing in their right to kill.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:58:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 07:58:18 PM
Just another day in the Yoo Ess Ay.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Throw a stack of guns amongst a bunch of psychotic, wayward, violence-fed retards, and you reap what you sow.
It's a great example of an entire nation believing in their right to kill.
Brick, good to see you back again.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 08:00:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 08:00:20 PM
I was resolute in refusing to return. But Fash made an offer I couldn't refuse. And Shen threatened to kick my ass if I didn't.
I got worked over pretty good.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 08:03:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 08:03:07 PM
Yeah.Quote from: "Bricktop"
I was resolute in refusing to return. But Fash made an offer I couldn't refuse. And Shen threatened to kick my ass if I didn't.
I got worked over pretty good.
You had a threesome with the two Chinese gals.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 07, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Fash just watched.
Title: Re: Shooting at South Texas Church - More Than 20 Killed and 30 injured
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2017, 05:01:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 09, 2017, 05:01:54 AM
HELL NO.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Fash just watched.