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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Thiel on November 05, 2017, 06:13:28 PM

Title: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on November 05, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
They offered passive returns on investments in pos machines. It operated out of Barrie, Ontario and was run by Charles Debonno, Jim Gaudry.  Brian Coneybeare and Henry Wilkenson.



My cousin and her husband invested $60,000 last year. They were receiving a monthly return until the con artists pulled the pin  and ran.



Contact Detective Michael Streng (or his partner Detective Wilson) at Toronto Police - Financial Crimes Division 416 808-7300 if you were a victim.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on November 05, 2017, 06:16:25 PM
I knew this was a scam the first time my cousin asked my advice about it. Only the tiniest mom and pop stores pay debit surcharges anymore.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 07:16:17 PM
I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on November 05, 2017, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on November 05, 2017, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/

That is so unfortunate your cousin along with other Canadians were victims..



And the fact that one of the people behind it has a history of fraud makes his victims even angrier..



I hope justice is served this time and it sends a message to other would be swindlers.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/

It seems pretty fishy. Lots of suckers out there.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 11:17:46 PM
I wouldn't call trusting souls suckers or greedy..



From a Google search, they were attending franchise shows and had no complaints on BBB..



But, that was because they hadn't been around very long under their new name.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Angry White Male on November 05, 2017, 11:37:07 PM
Why does everyone hate on him?



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Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"Why does everyone hate on him?



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What are you doing Mel?
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Angry White Male on November 05, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"What are you doing Mel?

Having a beer, listening to some music on my new cans, and now posting here!



What are you doing?
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2017, 11:42:25 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"
Quote from: "Fashionista"What are you doing Mel?

Having a beer, listening to some music on my new cans, and now posting here!



What are you doing?

I was discussing this fraud with Thiel..



Now, I'm finishing my Sunday evening chores.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Angry White Male on November 05, 2017, 11:43:49 PM
Nice!  I take care of my chores earlier in the day, so they don't cut into my beer drinking time!
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/

Most franchises that are not a known brand have no interest in investors success. I kn
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2017, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/

People paid three grand for those debit machines? That's about seven times more thanwhat they are worth.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2017, 04:56:25 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I never heard anything about this Thiel.

 ac_dunno

Debit Direct may have taken $30 million dollars before they ran away with investors money. Most investors were not rich. They were just average people looking for a reasonable return. Many planned to use monthly returns for their retirement.

How did it work Thiel?

Debit Direct charged something like $3000 per debit terminal and promised investors 15 cents back on each transaction plus one dollar per  cash back. In their contracts they agreed to be responsible for all maintenance of the machines for the life of the renewable five year contracts. Investors received a monthly report how their machines were dong and had their fees deposited into their accounts.



But, Debono and co up and left town about six weeks ago.  There is also no record of where the machines are.  They were takiing huge sums of money from trusting investors, giving small amounts back each month to get their trust, and sell them more machines that don't exist. Once they had millions they left for Panama or some other place outside of our justice system. And the kicker is this is not the first time that scammer, Charles Debono has been behind a scam like this. A few years ago, it was Profit Express.



Debit Direct has been advertised on legitimate sites like Franchise Direct Canada. You can read more about it on Red Flag Deals, Entrepreneurship & Small Business forum.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/debit-direct-canada-franchise-2056591/2/

People paid three grand for those debit machines? That's about seven times more thanwhat they are worth.

They were told they could recover their costs and start receiving passive income.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on December 04, 2017, 06:24:11 PM
Beware of another scam going around. This is an email they send out.



Joepanel Sales is a well established company providing a wide-ranging (and growing) portfolio of services.



Clients approach us with many objectives: to evaluate and improve their existing infrastructure, optimise information flow and reduce the hassle of daily activity, outsource their IT support and take advantage of the Internet-based technologies which are transforming the way we all do business.



My name is Diana Cunha am an Human Resource Manager at Joepanel Sales.



We are looking for responsible and reliable people to expand our personnel in Canada. Currently we have an open position of an Online Service Manager.



Employment: Full or Part Time Working hours: 40 hours/week or 20 hours/week Salary: 1300 CAD or 690 CAD weekly

-Living in Canada.

-Communication skills, ability to work in team.

-Ability to communicate effectively.

-Organizational skills that will help to plan the day successfully.

-Basic knowledge of Microsoft Office.



If you are interested in this position and you are ready to become a successful manager with the opportunity for career growth together with Joepanel Sales, please reply this mail and we will begin your employment.



If you are not interested, please let us know also, and we will not bother you again.



Thank you!

Diana Cunha HR Manager

Joepanel Sales

3155 Lakeshore Rd,

Kelowna, BC V1W 3S9, Canada

joepanel-sales.com

(250)-999-7590
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Bricktop on December 04, 2017, 06:28:29 PM
Where's the scam?
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on December 04, 2017, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Where's the scam?

Apparently they try an get your credit card information for charity or to sell you something.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Bricktop on December 04, 2017, 06:43:57 PM
Ah. Bastards.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Thiel on December 04, 2017, 06:47:57 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Ah. Bastards.

Despicable.
Title: Re: Debit Direct ponzi scheme bilked Canadians out of millions.
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2017, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Where's the scam?

Apparently they try an get your credit card information for charity or to sell you something.

 :ohmy: