I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
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I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
I would. That doesn't scare me.
No. I have lived in places where people have died in (naturally and not murdered) but Ive experienced creepy things I cant explain. I wont live in a place where someone has died.
If you were nervous about buying a house that someone died in, you'd be living in a tent. Everyone dies somewhere.
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I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
I have nothing to fear from a house that somebody died in.
I'm rather hesitant living in a house with someone killed in it, but if it's a nice and affordable house, hmm...
This brings me to this question: Should you inquire about the history of a place you are about to buy?
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This brings me to this question: Should you inquire about the history of a place you are about to buy?
Absolutely Azhya, repairs especially.
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I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
I have nothing to fear from a house that somebody died in.
I feel the same but if I had knowledge that a previous occupant was BRUTALLY murdered in there, the very idea of that will not sit well with me. There's got to be other places to consider.
I don't know. There was a legend of a haunted farm house close to my parents farm when I was a kid. I know it was on the market a long time every time it went up for sale.
My home is my sanctuary. I have to be completely comfortable in it and no bad feelings, doubts, misgivings must be felt in it.
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My home is my sanctuary. I have to be completely comfortable in it and no bad feelings, doubts, misgivings must be felt in it.
So you wouldn't buy the Amityville horror house no matter how good of a deal you got.
No, thank you.
Been to many houses the were the scene of homicides.
Most were re-occupied, except one. Its a ruin now. For some reason they couldn't give it away after the woman who lived there was butchered by a lunatic with a knife.
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My home is my sanctuary. I have to be completely comfortable in it and no bad feelings, doubts, misgivings must be felt in it.
So you wouldn't buy the Amityville horror house no matter how good of a deal you got.
I assume there was a lot of media publicity about that horrific event?
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I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
I have nothing to fear from a house that somebody died in.
The boogeyman eats little girls like you.
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Been to many houses the were the scene of homicides.
Most were re-occupied, except one. Its a ruin now. For some reason they couldn't give it away after the woman who lived there was butchered by a lunatic with a knife.
I wouldn't buy a house if I had saw the bloody aftermath like you have.
just some FYI on house selling and disclosing murders hauntings etc. in the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmatized_property
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Murder/suicide stigma: Some jurisdictions in the United States require property sellers to reveal if murder or suicide occurred on the premises. California state law does if the event occurred within the previous three years. To protect sellers from lawsuits, Florida state law does not require any notification.[2] In North Carolina, sellers and agents do not have to volunteer information about the death of previous occupants, but a direct question must be answered truthfully.[1]
Phenomena stigma: Many (but not all) jurisdictions require disclosure if a house is renowned for "haunting", ghost sightings, etc. This is in a separate category from public stigma, wherein the knowledge of "haunting" is restricted to a local market.[3]
Public stigma : when the stigma is known to a wide selection of the population and any reasonable person can be expected to know of it. Examples include the Amityville Horror house and the home of the Menendez brothers. Public stigma must always be disclosed, in almost all American and European jurisdictions.[3]
Spent time with friends recently and one believes in the supernatural stating that in her home, she hears spirits all the time and that her dog senses them too. She said she has not seen anything yet but believes she is surrounded by spirits.
I was in her car in the backseat and she said, "In fact, Azhya, there's a spirit sitting beside you now in the backseat." That was freaky. Haha. I don't concern myself with spirits. I have enough issues to deal with with the living around me that I don't want to waste my time on matters I can't see or feel or believe in.
Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
What happened in the past wouldn't bother me.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Well, he believes the Jews run the world and we need another Hitler, so why not???
ac_toofunny
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Well, he believes the Jews run the world and we need another Hitler, so why not???
ac_toofunny
Makes poltergeists seem believable. ac_toofunny
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
I've been to Auschwitz and the Killing Fields Museum in Cambodia. It's a surreal experience.
Why surreal?
I am not particularly drawn to these places.
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Why surreal?
It was dreamlike. Like I was living it.
Only been to Cambodia, and I feel you. Its hard not to feel the ghosts.
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Only been to Cambodia, and I feel you. Its hard not to feel the ghosts.
What you and Herman wrote I've heard from cousins in Taiwan who've been there.
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I don't know if I would. I am skeptical about supernatural things and religion. But there is a small percentage in my mind reserved for "what if I'm wrong," and I am sure it would nag at me.
FUCK NO!!
I´ve slept in wilderness cabins that were supposedly "haunted"...
Saw nothing.
Ghost stories are for scaring women.
I´ve been so hungover that I saw poltergeists, lizards, ugly women everywhere...
Heard voices in my head, which was cool until they started to pick a fight with me.
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I´ve been so hungover that I saw poltergeists, lizards, ugly women everywhere...
Heard voices in my head, which was cool until they started to pick a fight with me.
....and won.
ac_lmfao
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I´ve been so hungover that I saw poltergeists, lizards, ugly women everywhere...
Heard voices in my head, which was cool until they started to pick a fight with me.
....and won.
ac_lmfao
I believe it.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
Sure, but it was on both sides, and Jews were not the only people who died, although they like to have all the emphasis placed on them and their 'sufferink'.
Also, try finding a single scrap of evidence proving that gas chambers existed and were used to murder 6 million Jews. You won't, because it's a complete fabrication.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Well, he believes the Jews run the world and we need another Hitler, so why not???
ac_toofunny
Yeah, because Jews wield absolutely no power or influence throughout the US and Europe. :crazy:
Who else could claim that 6 million of their people died in a conflict with absolutely no evidence to back up the claim, and siphon millions of dollars from the country accused of the imaginary genocide still to this day?
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
I've been to Auschwitz and the Killing Fields Museum in Cambodia. It's a surreal experience.
Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers? ac_lmfao
^^You ignore that the swimming pool was built as a water reservoir for the purpose of firefighting (there were no hydrants in the camp), that the diving boards were added later, and that the pool was only accessible to SS men and certain privileged prisoners employed as inmate-funcionaries in the camp. The presence of the swimming pool does not say anything about the conditions for most inmates in Auschwitz, and does not challenge the existence of an extermination program with its proper facilities in Auschwitz II.
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
I've been to Auschwitz and the Killing Fields Museum in Cambodia. It's a surreal experience.
Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers? ac_lmfao
Dude. Seriously?
Push your political point all you want. Its still a free country...or one of ours is...but denying historical fact only serves to render your argument invalid.
If you lie about one thing, everything you say is thus tainted.
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^^You ignore that the swimming pool was built as a water reservoir for the purpose of firefighting (there were no hydrants in the camp), that the diving boards were added later, and that the pool was only accessible to SS men and certain privileged prisoners employed as inmate-funcionaries in the camp. The presence of the swimming pool does not say anything about the conditions for most inmates in Auschwitz, and does not challenge the existence of an extermination program with its proper facilities in Auschwitz II.
Yeah, I too could do a quick 5 min Google search, and find various (Jewish/leftist) sources which claim this, but it doesn't necessarily make it true does it?
Ok, for arguments sake, let's say you and your Jewish pals are right about this, why on earth was there a theater, brothel and other entertainment situated on a supposed death camp? Or were these apparently just for 'staff' too? :001_rolleyes:
It doesn't exactly sound like a Communist gulag does it? Hell, I bet there are plenty of Korean hotels that are less pleasant to stay in.....
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Hell no, I don't fancy getting haunted by a poltergeist.
You believe in that? ac_wot
Not sure to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't be able to settle in a place which harbours a brutal and bloody history.
Is the Holocaust bloody to you then?
I am hesitant to visit the holocaust sites but I have no problem going to Gettysburg. To me, death by dignified battle isn't the same as shepherding a group of people into a chamber to eradicate a race. I just don't feel inclined to visit the holocaust sites. I imagine a grim aura must linger there.
I've been to Auschwitz and the Killing Fields Museum in Cambodia. It's a surreal experience.
Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers? ac_lmfao
Dude. Seriously?
Push your political point all you want. Its still a free country...or one of ours is...but denying historical fact only serves to render your argument invalid.
If you lie about one thing, everything you say is thus tainted.
What historical fact am I denying exactly? Be specific...
The holocaust.
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The holocaust.
I deny that 6 million Jews died, (which has been proven to be false), and that gas chambers existed.
So you believe every single part of the official tale?
Well, you stick to your story and I'll stick to mine. I'm not going to waste valuable time arguing with someone that the sky is green, the Queen is Chinese and pork pies are made from human flesh. If, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you choose to believe in a lie, then expect the rest of your political claims to be equally invalidated.
And I don't believe ANY official tales. I believe only what I perceive from my own observations.
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Well, you stick to your story and I'll stick to mine. I'm not going to waste valuable time arguing with someone that the sky is green, the Queen is Chinese and pork pies are made from human flesh. If, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you choose to believe in a lie, then expect the rest of your political claims to be equally invalidated.
And I don't believe ANY official tales. I believe only what I perceive from my own observations.
Comparing someone questioning the very dubious claim that 6 million Jews were murdered in gas chambers to a ludicrous notion that the sky is green is an extremely poor analogy. ac_unsure
I'm actually curious why you haven't researched the topic yourself, considering the fact that you are very active online, because if you had, you would know full well that the official tale contains more holes than a block of Swiss cheese.
Do you see anywhere where I haven't "researched" the issue? Do I come across as someone who invents arguments without some semblance of factual corroboration?
The exact number is moot. The practice of Nazi Germany to eliminate Jews by execution is not. With the overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Nazi atrocities, arguing that it is a fantasy is indeed tantamount to arguing the sky is green. The fact that the sky is blue and that Auschwitz was used as a genocidal centre are beyond reasonable question, and should you argue against either, you render yourself illogical and irrational.
You may know that my cousin Warwick Davis did a TV special (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/) on the Dwarves of Auschwitz, in which he visited the standing memorial. He told me it was the most traumatic and disturbing experience of his life. You should try it. I do not expect you to change your political views, but I would expect you at least to accept tested, validated, corroborated first-hand evidence from both those interred and those who stood guard as they were slaughtered.
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Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers? ac_lmfao
San Quentin has educational and vocational opportunities as well as sports. I guess the difference between the inmates at SQ and Auschwitz is that the SQ ones DESERVE to be there.
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Do you see anywhere where I haven't "researched" the issue? Do I come across as someone who invents arguments without some semblance of factual corroboration?
The exact number is moot. The practice of Nazi Germany to eliminate Jews by execution is not. With the overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Nazi atrocities, arguing that it is a fantasy is indeed tantamount to arguing the sky is green. The fact that the sky is blue and that Auschwitz was used as a genocidal centre are beyond reasonable question, and should you argue against either, you render yourself illogical and irrational.
You may know that my cousin Warwick Davis did a TV special (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/) on the Dwarves of Auschwitz, in which he visited the standing memorial. He told me it was the most traumatic and disturbing experience of his life. You should try it. I do not expect you to change your political views, but I would expect you at least to accept tested, validated, corroborated first-hand evidence from both those interred and those who stood guard as they were slaughtered.
Any particular reason why your cousin chose to hop on the Holocaust bandwagon, rather than do something a tad more noble, like produce something covering a topic which has been largely forgotten, like the Holodomor? The horrors of the red army and Communism in general have been swept aside thanks to the Jews and their Hollowco$$t industry.
For the record I'm not denying that Jews died, however I don't believe that gas chambers were used or anywhere near the amount of Jews perished which has been claimed. In a nutshell, we've all been lied to, big time.
Since when has the brutality of Stalin been swept under the rug??
"Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[13] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[14]"
If this 
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If this is not a human remains disposal incinerator 
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If this is not a toxic powder that turns to lethal gas 
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If these are not civilians being incarcerated in a concentration camp 
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You verge on delusional to deny irrebuttable evidence.
BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.
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Since when has the brutality of Stalin been swept under the rug??
"Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[13] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[14]"
Since 2006. ac_lmfao
By contrast, the holy Hollowco$$t has been rammed down everyone's throats since WW2 ended. Not to mention endless Jewish endorsed Hollyweird movies which are nothing more than Jewish propaganda which contain little or no truth to them.
Are you honestly going to sit there and try saying that the Holodomor has had anywhere near the amount of hype and coverage as the Holocaust?
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If this 
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Delousing chamber. You need to watch David Cole's visit to Auschwitz, it's on Youtube.
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If this is not a human remains disposal incinerator 
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Correct it's an oven used to cremate bodies. Death in the camp was rife towards the end of the war due to supply routes being bombed, resulting in food or medicine being unable to get through.
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If this is not a toxic powder that turns to lethal gas 
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That's Zyklon B. It was used for the delousing in the delousing chamber, oddly enough...... :icon_wink:
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If these are not civilians being incarcerated in a concentration camp 
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They're people being incarcerated in a labour camp. You almost got that one right........ This wasn't exclusive treatment dished out by the Germans incidentally.
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You verge on delusional to deny irrebuttable evidence.
So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.
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BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.
They were labour camps, not death camps like gullible morons like you think.
Go watch Swindler's list again. :oeudC:
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Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers? ac_lmfao
San Quentin has educational and vocational opportunities as well as sports. I guess the difference between the inmates at SQ and Auschwitz is that the SQ ones DESERVE to be there.
Good analogy.
I know I sure as hell would not want to be an inmate at Alcatraz. But, it would still be preferable to a German run labor camp. Or even worse, a Japanese one.
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BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.
They were labour camps, not death camps like gullible morons like you think.
Go watch Swindler's list again. :oeudC:
So, the gas chambers were for disinfecting after all. And the incinerators for the large amount of rubbish the ill-mannered jews left in their wake.
Jesus wept...
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So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.
It is not my mission to prove anything to you. Your beliefs are inconsequential to me and probably everybody else.
Nor is your reference to Stalin's inhuman brutality relevant. Two wrongs don't make a Reich.
The West has never shied away from referencing Stalin's abhorrent terror regime. It defined the Soviet Union, and ultimately its collapse. No-one I know would separate Stalin and Hitler in terms of tyrannical inhumanity. I certainly don't.
And I accept that the Jews have been very much more successful in maintaining the Holocaust as a significant event in their history, and I further accept that they use it to justify their conduct. They are the epitome of the use of victimhood to gain advantage.
I have no love for ANY state that is based on religion. They are as tyrannical and despotic as any dictatorship. They simply substitute religion in lieu of political ideology.
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So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.
It is not my mission to prove anything to you. Your beliefs are inconsequential to me and probably everybody else.
Nor is your reference to Stalin's inhuman brutality relevant. Two wrongs don't make a Reich.
The West has never shied away from referencing Stalin's abhorrent terror regime. It defined the Soviet Union, and ultimately its collapse. No-one I know would separate Stalin and Hitler in terms of tyrannical inhumanity. I certainly don't.
And I accept that the Jews have been very much more successful in maintaining the Holocaust as a significant event in their history, and I further accept that they use it to justify their conduct. They are the epitome of the use of victimhood to gain advantage.
I have no love for ANY state that is based on religion. They are as tyrannical and despotic as any dictatorship. They simply substitute religion in lieu of political ideology.
You're right it isn't your mission, but considering the fact you appear to believe the Jewish version of the holocaust and vehemently reject any opposing views, I imagined you would have brought more to the table to support your argument.
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BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.
They were labour camps, not death camps like gullible morons like you think.
Go watch Swindler's list again. :oeudC:
So, the gas chambers were for disinfecting after all. And the incinerators for the large amount of rubbish the ill-mannered jews left in their wake.
Jesus wept...
No, the incinerators were for burning bodies, I never denied that. As I said, disease and starvation were common towards the end.
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You're right it isn't your mission, but considering the fact you appear to believe the Jewish version of the holocaust and vehemently reject any opposing views, I imagined you would have brought more to the table to support your argument.
I tell you what.
I'll give you a debate on the matter, to be judged by our erstwhile members here. 5 posts each, one week maximum time limit.
I win, you accept the Holocaust as a historical fact.
You win, I accept it did not occur.
Care to take YOUR seat at the table??
Oh...and I don't believe the "Jewish" argument...I believe the historical record. You know, first hand witnesses from both sides, photographs, videos, court records. I neither know nor care who the witness is.
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So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.
It is not my mission to prove anything to you. Your beliefs are inconsequential to me and probably everybody else.
Nor is your reference to Stalin's inhuman brutality relevant. Two wrongs don't make a Reich.
The West has never shied away from referencing Stalin's abhorrent terror regime. It defined the Soviet Union, and ultimately its collapse. No-one I know would separate Stalin and Hitler in terms of tyrannical inhumanity. I certainly don't.
And I accept that the Jews have been very much more successful in maintaining the Holocaust as a significant event in their history, and I further accept that they use it to justify their conduct. They are the epitome of the use of victimhood to gain advantage.
I have no love for ANY state that is based on religion. They are as tyrannical and despotic as any dictatorship. They simply substitute religion in lieu of political ideology.
I remember my grandmother telling me about holodomor. Fash's dad was persecuted by the Taiwanese dictator. Shen Li's grandparents were killed by Mao Tse Tung.
There is no denying the holocaust, the killing fields, holodomor, the Armenian genocide, or Japanese atrocities throughout the far East because survivors confirmed all of these bloody events.
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You're right it isn't your mission, but considering the fact you appear to believe the Jewish version of the holocaust and vehemently reject any opposing views, I imagined you would have brought more to the table to support your argument.
I tell you what.
I'll give you a debate on the matter, to be judged by our erstwhile members here. 5 posts each, one week maximum time limit.
I win, you accept the Holocaust as a historical fact.
You win, I accept it did not occur.
Care to take YOUR seat at the table??
Oh...and I don't believe the "Jewish" argument...I believe the historical record. You know, first hand witnesses from both sides, photographs, videos, court records. I neither know nor care who the witness is.
You haven't yet described what you actually mean by the 'Holocaust'?
If you mean that 6 million Jews died in murderous gas chambers at the hands of the National Socialists, then sure by all means, try and prove this assertion. :laugh:
However, if you just regard the Holocaust as a bunch of people (including Jews) being put to work in concentration camps and some of them dying through various ways, then save yourself the aggro of writing any essays, because I would most likely agree with you.
Try and prove it? That's like saying prove the prime minister of Canada is incompetent. It's already been proven.
More importantly, why do you have a hard time accepting the reality of forced labor camps which became extermination camps as part of the scorched earth policy as the tide turned against Germany? Why are you stuck in 1944? Do you deny Japanese atrocities in the Pacific theatre? Do you deny holodomor and the Armenian holocaust too?
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Try and prove it? That's like saying prove the prime minister of Canada is incompetent. It's already been proven.
More importantly, why do you have a hard time accepting the reality of forced labor camps which became extermination camps as part of the scorched earth policy as the tide turned against Germany? Why are you stuck in 1944? Do you deny Japanese atrocities in the Pacific theatre? Do you deny holodomor and the Armenian holocaust too?
Don't you think when something as massive as 6 million Jews supposedly being killed is claimed that it should be backed up with some evidence?
The very notion of such a ridiculous statement is absurd to say the least, and it boggles my mind that so many people believe it without question.....

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You're right it isn't your mission, but considering the fact you appear to believe the Jewish version of the holocaust and vehemently reject any opposing views, I imagined you would have brought more to the table to support your argument.
I tell you what.
I'll give you a debate on the matter, to be judged by our erstwhile members here. 5 posts each, one week maximum time limit.
I win, you accept the Holocaust as a historical fact.
You win, I accept it did not occur.
Care to take YOUR seat at the table??
Oh...and I don't believe the "Jewish" argument...I believe the historical record. You know, first hand witnesses from both sides, photographs, videos, court records. I neither know nor care who the witness is.
You haven't yet described what you actually mean by the 'Holocaust'?
If you mean that 6 million Jews died in murderous gas chambers at the hands of the National Socialists, then sure by all means, try and prove this assertion. :laugh:
However, if you just regard the Holocaust as a bunch of people (including Jews) being put to work in concentration camps and some of them dying through various ways, then save yourself the aggro of writing any essays, because I would most likely agree with you.
C'mon sunshine.
You've called me out. You want to see what I can put "on the table".
Take a seat.
You need to answer my question first.
The exact number of victims at Auschwitz is difficult to fix with certainty, because many prisoners were never registered and much evidence was destroyed by the SS in the final days of the war.[169] As early as 1942, Himmler visited the camp and ordered that "all mass graves were to be opened and the corpses burned. In addition the ashes were to be disposed of in such a way that it would be impossible at some future time to calculate the number of corpses burned."[170]
Shortly following the camp's liberation, the Soviet government stated that four million people had been killed on the site, a figure now regarded as greatly exaggerated.[171] While under interrogation, Höss said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million more had died of other causes.[172] Later he wrote, "I regard the figure of two and a half million as far too high. Even Auschwitz had limits to its destructive possibilities".[173] Gerald Reitlinger's 1953 book The Final Solution estimated the number killed to be 800,000 to 900,000,[174] and Raul Hilberg's 1961 work The Destruction of the European Jews estimated the number killed to be a maximum of 1,000,000 Jewish victims.[175] French chemist and author Jean-Claude Pressac estimates that between 631,000 and 711,000 killed at Auschwitz, of whom 470,000 to 550,000 were gassed.[176]
In 1983, French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at a figure of 1,471,595 deaths, including 1.35 million Jews and 86,675 Poles.[177] A larger study started by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate at least 960,000 Jewish deaths and at least 1.1 million total deaths,[178] a figure adopted as official by the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum in the 1990s.[179][e] Piper stated that a figure of as many as 1.5 million total deaths was possible.[179]
By nation, the greatest number of Auschwitz's Jewish victims were from Hungary, accounting for 438,000 deaths, followed by Polish Jews (300,000 deaths), French (69,000), Dutch (60,000), and Greek (55,000).[181] Fewer than one percent of Soviet Jews murdered in the Holocaust were killed in Auschwitz, as German forces had already been driven from Russia when the killing at Auschwitz reached its peak in 1944.[182] Approximately 1 in 6 Jews killed in the Holocaust died at the camp.[2]
The next largest group of victims were non-Jewish Poles, who accounted for 70,000 to 75,000 deaths. Twenty-one thousand Roma and Sinti were killed, along with 15,000 Soviet POWs and 10,000 to 15,000 peoples of other nations.[181] Around 400 Jehovah's Witnesses were imprisoned at Auschwitz, at least 152 of whom died.[183] An estimated 5,000 to 15,000 gay men prosecuted under German Penal Code Section 175 (proscribing sexual acts between men) were detained in concentration camps of which an unknown number were sent to Auschwitz; of those sent to Auschwitz 80 percent died.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

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You need to answer my question first.
I don't need to do shit!!
Let's see the fibre of your fabric!!!
Let old lavender arse take you to school.
An Auschwitz survivor in her own words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c5NSkpQThw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ElwJ-sjUI
Fash, don't believe a word what these 'survivors' have to say.
There seems to be a lot of survivors from a supposed death camp doesn't there?
Google 'Holocaust liars' and I think you will be shocked just how many people have been caught lying about what happened to them....
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You need to answer my question first.
I don't need to do shit!!
Let's see the fibre of your fabric!!!
Let old lavender arse take you to school.
How can you make an effective argument about something when you haven't even explained properly what point you are attempting to put across? ac_dunno
Just saying 'the Holocaust was real' doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
And for Herman who is proudly of Ukrainian origin, here are more survivors of the madness of the twentieth century..
The holocaust this time was holodomor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QupijTjTQQ
And for East Asians and Australians who may read this board, this is about some of the atrocities Japan inflicted on the nations it conquered..
In this instance it's British Singapore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXGQLlBaXAA
Yes. The nazis were not the only bastards of that century ..... but bastards they were.
Scouse should see Dachau as I did.
I´ve visited Auschwitz and I didnt feel anything... No spirits or auras.
If I didnt know any better, I would think its an army base.
There was no bad JuJu in the air..
I just wasnt there so I dont feel sad...
I dont want to pretend to care about the jews..
Which would surprise no-one here, as you seem to lack the cranial processing capacity to feel pain if stabbed in the eye with a needle.
And I'm sorry if I imply that I actually believe your bullshit statement.
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Yes. The nazis were not the only bastards of that century ..... but bastards they were.
Lots of savagery in the last century.
Oh crap. I opened Pandora's box.
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Oh crap. I opened Pandora's box.
Oh no Azhya.
What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I never saw that.....thankfully.
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Yes. The nazis were not the only bastards of that century ..... but bastards they were.
I think in terms of actual human abasement, the Japanese treatment of Chinese civilians and POW's was worse.
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Oh crap. I opened Pandora's box.
:laugh:
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Yes. The nazis were not the only bastards of that century ..... but bastards they were.
I think in terms of actual human abasement, the Japanese treatment of Chinese civilians and POW's was worse.
We were part of Japan at the time, so there was no war in Taiwan..
My grandfathers and great uncles were conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Army..
Sometimes Taiwanese forget how heinous the crimes the Japanese committed in China and other parts of Asia.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
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I never saw that.....thankfully.
You haven't seen anything like this?

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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
Every culture will exaggerate the wrongs done to them. Which culture doesn't? It still happened though and it was still bad. No use in trying to sweeten it.
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I never saw that.....thankfully.
You haven't seen anything like this?

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My bad Azhya, I wasn't thinking about death camps in Europe.
That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
Scouse is denying the Holocaust.
That's just plain dumb. He may be able to debate numbers, but he cannot debate on factual evidence the fact that the National Socialist government of Germany implemented a policy of lethal extermination of the Jewish population of Europe, without justification or reason. Its historical name is the "Holocaust", and only a pedant will argue the accuracy of that terminology.
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
I know the conversation changed, but I was thinking the op.
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Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
Scouse is denying the Holocaust.
That's just plain dumb. He may be able to debate numbers, but he cannot debate on factual evidence the fact that the National Socialist government of Germany implemented a policy of lethal extermination of the Jewish population of Europe, without justification or reason. Its historical name is the "Holocaust", and only a pedant will argue the accuracy of that terminology.
Riiiiight, that's why Hitler made a pact with the Zionist Federation to send German Jews to Palestine in 1933. If his intention was to genocide all the Jews, what would be the point of doing that? That also goes for the prisoner number tattoos on camp inmates, if he was only going to gas them all, again why bother?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
You too have fallen victim to the Jewish propaganda machine I'm afraid to say, and it has caused you to throw rational thinking straight out the window.
Also, your claim that Jews were persecuted for no reason is absolute nonsense. The vast majority of prisoners were enemies of the state, like Communist sympathisers. Hitler had waged war against the Red Terror and it's followers, and for good reason too. Without the Third Reich, there's a very good chance that western Europe would have fallen to Communism like in the East...
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
What makes you think that every single picture of dead bodies on Google were victims of the National Socialists? Or that they were murdered, as opposed to died from Typhus or some other sort of illness?
Stop watching Hollywood movies please, for the sake of your sanity and reasoning.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
It never ceases to amaze me how many supposedly intelligent people swallow Jewish propaganda without question. :crazy:
My understanding of European history was that the systematic slaughter of Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma, homosexuals, communists, pacifists, and other political opponents didn't begin until the war was well under way.
KEY DATES: THE "FINAL SOLUTION"
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JUNE 22, 1941
KILLING SQUADS ACCOMPANY GERMAN INVASION OF THE SOVIET UNION
German mobile killing squads, called special duty units (Einsatzgruppen), are assigned to kill Jews during the invasion of the Soviet Union. These squads follow the German army as it advances deep into Soviet territory, and carry out mass-murder operations. At first, the mobile killing squads shoot primarily Jewish men. Soon, wherever the mobile killing squads go, they shoot all Jewish men, women, and children, without regard for age or gender. By the spring of 1943, the mobile killing squads will have killed more than a million Jews and tens of thousands of partisans, Roma (Gypsies), and Soviet political officials.
DECEMBER 8, 1941
FIRST KILLING CENTER BEGINS OPERATION
The Chelmno killing center begins operation. The Nazis later establish five other such camps: Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Auschwitz-Birkenau (part of the Auschwitz complex), and Majdanek. Victims at Chelmno are killed in gas vans (hermetically sealed trucks with engine exhaust diverted to the interior compartments). The Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka camps use carbon monoxide gas generated by stationary engines attached to gas chambers. Auschwitz-Birkenau, the largest of the killing centers, has four large gas chambers using Zyklon B (crystalline hydrogen cyanide) as the killing agent. The gas chambers at Majdanek use both carbon monoxide and Zyklon B. Millions of Jews are killed in the gas chambers in the killing centers as part of the "Final Solution."
JANUARY 20, 1942
WANNSEE CONFERENCE AND THE "FINAL SOLUTION"
The Wannsee Conference, a meeting between the SS (the elite guard of the Nazi state) and German government agencies, opens in Berlin. They discuss and coordinate the implementation of the "Final Solution," which is already under way. At Wannsee, the SS estimates that the "Final Solution" will involve 11 million European Jews, including those from non-occupied countries such as Ireland, Sweden, Turkey, and Great Britain. Between the fall of 1941 and the fall of 1944, the German railways transport millions of people to their deaths in killing centers in occupied Poland.
There is no documented evidence whatsoever that there was a 'Final Solution' implemented by the Germans to genocide all the Jews or any other group of people, which is pretty astounding when you consider that they kept meticulous records....
Of course, the explanation for this is that they must have destroyed all the documentation. How convenient. :001_rolleyes:
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It never ceases to amaze me how many supposedly intelligent people swallow Jewish propaganda without question. :crazy:
I think it stems from the brainwashing that is received early on at the school level, and then the continued brainwashing on the media level. I question everything these days cause I know we were lied to a LOT. All it takes is a few instances of waking up to the truth to start pulling the curtain down with other things as well.
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There is no documented evidence whatsoever that there was a 'Final Solution' implemented by the Germans to genocide all the Jews or any other group of people, which is pretty astounding when you consider that they kept meticulous records....
Of course, the explanation for this is that they must have destroyed all the documentation. How convenient. :001_rolleyes:

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In a February 26, 1942 letter to Martin Luther, Reinhard Heydrich follows up on the Wannsee Conference by asking Luther for administrative assistance in the implementation of the "Endlösung der Judenfrage" (Final Solution of the Jewish Question).
But, some Japanese nationalist sympathizers also deny 731 and the mass slaughters in the Pacific region.
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There is no documented evidence whatsoever that there was a 'Final Solution' implemented by the Germans to genocide all the Jews or any other group of people, which is pretty astounding when you consider that they kept meticulous records....
Of course, the explanation for this is that they must have destroyed all the documentation. How convenient. :001_rolleyes:

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In a February 26, 1942 letter to Martin Luther, Reinhard Heydrich follows up on the Wannsee Conference by asking Luther for administrative assistance in the implementation of the "Endlösung der Judenfrage" (Final Solution of the Jewish Question).
No word on what the Final Solution actually was? :001_rolleyes:
We've only got the Jew's and their sympathisers word on the matter...... which of course will be completely and totally impartial. :laugh3:
The Final Solution was the deportation of Jews to Israel/Palestine.
I also note how most people on here are desperate to prove me wrong and side with the 'official' tale.
You've all been brainwashed and indoctrinated with Jewish crap without even realising. :laugh:
I too was the same initially but thankfully I woke up.......
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No word on what the Final Solution actually was? :001_rolleyes:
We've only got the Jew's and their sympathisers word on the matter...... which of course will be completely and totally impartial. :laugh3:
The Final Solution was the deportation of Jews to Israel/Palestine.
Scouser, give us a fucking break. Nazi Germany during WW2 was a killing and pillaging machine just like Imperial Japan. Both regimes have sympathizers today. It doesn't change much though.
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The deportation of Jews to and killing of Jews in the camps of Belzec, Sobibor, and
Treblinka, as well as the confiscation of their property, became known as Operation
Reinhard, under the command of Odilo Globocnik, the SS and Police Leader in the district of
Lublin.
When you get away from denying the years 1942-1945, you're an enjoyable poster.
Let's here your thoughts on real issues like climate change alarmism and how it's destroying the West. It's financed by billionaires ya know.
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Which would surprise no-one here, as you seem to lack the cranial processing capacity to feel pain if stabbed in the eye with a needle.
And I'm sorry if I imply that I actually believe your bullshit statement.
Its kinda stupid to pretend to feel sad about something that didnt happen to you or anyone close to you.
I was excited/fascinated to see such a famous place.
People wouldnt feel anything in there if they didnt know its history.
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I never saw that.....thankfully.
You haven't seen anything like this?
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ags_UJ6wrtc/U2JakCe8CKI/AAAAAAAAAFE/Vw0jOnVCPsI/s1600/s_w07_05043951.jpg
They look well fed... And alive..
They look like they are laying down comfortably.
The soldier aint holding the weapon correctly.
And they might be russian female soldiers/guerrillas...
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No word on what the Final Solution actually was? :001_rolleyes:
We've only got the Jew's and their sympathisers word on the matter...... which of course will be completely and totally impartial. :laugh3:
The Final Solution was the deportation of Jews to Israel/Palestine.
Scouser, give us a fucking break. Nazi Germany during WW2 was a killing and pillaging machine just like Imperial Japan. Both regimes have sympathizers today. It doesn't change much though.
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The deportation of Jews to and killing of Jews in the camps of Belzec, Sobibor, and
Treblinka, as well as the confiscation of their property, became known as Operation
Reinhard, under the command of Odilo Globocnik, the SS and Police Leader in the district of
Lublin.
When you get away from denying the years 1942-1945, you're an enjoyable poster.
Let's here your thoughts on real issues like climate change alarmism and how it's destroying the West. It's financed by billionaires ya know.
I like Scouse too. But, in his zeal to rewrite the past he takes his eye off the ball today.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
It never ceases to amaze me how many supposedly intelligent people swallow Jewish propaganda without question. :crazy:
Yet you accept that millions of Germans, some intelligent, swallowed Hitler's propaganda and lies without question.
Strange, innit.
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What about the photos of all those emaciated bodies that were piled up in a mass grave? That was compelling.
I remember seeing those.
I think the point Scouse is trying to make, is that the number of deaths given is overly exaggerated, by a lot. I think he is also saying that a lot of those deaths were not from being exterminated, but more so from other causes.
It never ceases to amaze me how many supposedly intelligent people swallow Jewish propaganda without question. :crazy:
Yet you accept that millions of Germans, some intelligent, swallowed Hitler's propaganda and lies without question.
Strange, innit.
Everything is Jewish propaganda or conspiracy with Scouse. :dash1:
Yet we are the ones allegedly "brainwashed".
Daft scally, he is.
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Yet we are the ones allegedly "brainwashed".
Daft scally, he is.
Besides being inaccurate, blaming Jews for the progtard assault on the West doesn't do anything for working class people who are getting the shaft.
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
What makes you think that every single picture of dead bodies on Google were victims of the National Socialists? Or that they were murdered, as opposed to died from Typhus or some other sort of illness?
Stop watching Hollywood movies please, for the sake of your sanity and reasoning.
That is only one photo and I did not say every single picture of dead bodies are from the Holocaust. I know it's not but I know enough. Please stop pretending that Hitler and his minions did not want to eradicate all Jews from the face of the earth. They succeeded to do exactly that which resulted in the murder of about 6 million. That is not nothing.
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
What makes you think that every single picture of dead bodies on Google were victims of the National Socialists? Or that they were murdered, as opposed to died from Typhus or some other sort of illness?
Stop watching Hollywood movies please, for the sake of your sanity and reasoning.
That is only one photo and I did not say every single picture of dead bodies are from the Holocaust. I know it's not but I know enough. Please stop pretending that Hitler and his minions did not want to eradicate all Jews from the face of the earth. They succeeded to do exactly that which resulted in the murder of about 6 million. That is not nothing.
We know that Azhya. But, Scouse is pointlessly obstinate about this.
I did not say that you did not know that and that was addressed to Scouse not everyone else who seem to be on the same page as I am except for a few.
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I did not say that you did not know that and that was addressed to Scouse not everyone else who seem to be on the same page as I am except for a few.
I know that AA and I know who it was addressed to. Scouse is on his own page. He contradicts himself so often I have to wonder if he really believes this blame Ashkenazi Jews for everything broken record.
Not a few.
One.
Herr Jell.
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Not a few.
One.
Herr Jell.
:laugh:
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Let's here your thoughts on real issues like climate change alarmism and how it's destroying the West. It's financed by billionaires ya know.
I'd like to read his opinions on the most important issue facing the Western middle class today. It should be good for a laugh.
Jews are the cause of climate change.
Try and keep up!!
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Jews are the cause of climate change.
Try and keep up!!
Of course. What was I thinking.
Its not that hard to believe in jewish conspiracy..
In Hollywood, all the big names end with Stein, Heimer, Berg etc.
Hollywood is for propaganda.
Many of the bankers, investors are jews too.
The holocaust card needs to be revoked..
Germans should be proud of their great history..
Nazi-Germany was great.. They fought against the whole world and nearly won.
The Kaiserreich was great.
You're wasting your time Odison, the Jew lovers on here refuse to hear a bad word said against the Jews, or more importantly organised International Jewry...
I don't think they even understand the difference.
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You're wasting your time Odison, the Jew lovers on here refuse to hear a bad word said against the Jews, or more importantly organised International Jewry...
I don't think they even understand the difference.
Odinson is trolling SCOUSE..
Mussolini's Jewish Lover Who Crafted Italian Fascism
Margherita Sarfatti wasn't just the dictator's most erudite paramour; she was his secret adviser and ideologue
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/books/1.628007
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You're wasting your time Odison, the Jew lovers on here refuse to hear a bad word said against the Jews, or more importantly organised International Jewry...
I don't think they even understand the difference.
Odinson is trolling SCOUSE..
Mussolini's Jewish Lover Who Crafted Italian Fascism
Margherita Sarfatti wasn't just the dictator's most erudite paramour; she was his secret adviser and ideologue
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/books/1.628007
Not trolling..
Just considering all the facts.
And jews are pulling the holocaust card everytime they want something or are doing something nasty.
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You're wasting your time Odison, the Jew lovers on here refuse to hear a bad word said against the Jews, or more importantly organised International Jewry...
I don't think they even understand the difference.
Odinson is trolling SCOUSE..
Mussolini's Jewish Lover Who Crafted Italian Fascism
Margherita Sarfatti wasn't just the dictator's most erudite paramour; she was his secret adviser and ideologue
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/books/1.628007
I don't think so, I've spoken with him before about the National Socialists, and while not being exactly pro Hitler, he's far from the typical hysterical anti-Hitler drone.
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
What makes you think that every single picture of dead bodies on Google were victims of the National Socialists? Or that they were murdered, as opposed to died from Typhus or some other sort of illness?
Stop watching Hollywood movies please, for the sake of your sanity and reasoning.
That is only one photo and I did not say every single picture of dead bodies are from the Holocaust. I know it's not but I know enough. Please stop pretending that Hitler and his minions did not want to eradicate all Jews from the face of the earth. They succeeded to do exactly that which resulted in the murder of about 6 million. That is not nothing.
Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
When you get some time, please watch this documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=n06G3Uv20cQ
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
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That is what we are talking about though. I just find it hard to believe that adults haven't seen images of this miserable atrocity.
What makes you think that every single picture of dead bodies on Google were victims of the National Socialists? Or that they were murdered, as opposed to died from Typhus or some other sort of illness?
Stop watching Hollywood movies please, for the sake of your sanity and reasoning.
That is only one photo and I did not say every single picture of dead bodies are from the Holocaust. I know it's not but I know enough. Please stop pretending that Hitler and his minions did not want to eradicate all Jews from the face of the earth. They succeeded to do exactly that which resulted in the murder of about 6 million. That is not nothing.
Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
When you get some time, please watch this documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=n06G3Uv20cQ
See also the Leuchter reports......
Leuchter had for decades before the first Leuchter report been a leading technical expert on the execution methods used for capital punishment in the United States. In 1988, shortly before the second of Ernst Zundel's Holocaust trials, and after having been shown Holocaust revisionist evidence by Robert Faurisson, Leuchter, as an expert on American gas chamber executions, agreed to examine the alleged homicidal gas chambers of several Holocaust camps. He traveled to Poland with his wife (who was also his secretary), his draftsman, a video cameraman and a translator, to make a technical examination.
Faurisson was the first person to point out that a blue discoloration ("Prussian blue") caused by the delousing agent/alleged homicidal agent Zyklon B was present in delousing gas chambers but not in alleged homicidal gas chambers. Leuchter therefore brought back 32 test samples taken from the masonry of the alleged homicidal gas chambers, as well as from a delousing gas chamber. When chemically analyzed, all samples taken from the gas chambers supposedly used for mass human extermination exhibited either no or only negligible traces of Zyklon B derivatives, while the sample from the delousing chambers taken as a control exhibited very high amounts.
However, during the trial the judge prohibited the defense from using or even mentioning to the jury the report and severely limited what Leuchter was allowed to state as a defense witness. This was motivated by claiming that Leuchter was an expert only on a very limited area.
The report was published after the trial as The Leuchter Report.
Much less well-known is that three later Leuchter reports were also published and that the Leuchter reports did not discuss just Zyklon B derivatives but also many other aspects of the camps and which were argued to support Holocaust revisionism.
Examples include stating that there had been no gastight doors in the gassing rooms as well as no ventilation facilities for the drawing off of the poison, that the capacity of the crematories had been much too small, and similar other technical arguments.
Criticisms and counter-criticisms
The first report received enormous attention and was followed by various attempts to discredit it as well as by support by Holocaust revisionists answering criticisms and adding further argued evidence such as the Rudolf report and the Lüftl report.
Although completely a-political, Leuchter in consequence became the object of global insults (as a "neo-Nazi") and harrassment. Visiting England in November 1991 at the invitation of David Irving's Clarendon Club, to lecture at Chelsea Town Hall in London, he was arrested on-stage by Metropolitan Police officers at the request of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, held in the cells, and deported without appeal back to the United States.
In Massachusetts, he was victimised, assaulted, and prosecuted at the instance of local Jewish bodies on the hardly relevant pretext that he had been practicing as an engineer without proper registration (as did over half of that state's engineers). Fred Leuchter was forced out of work, hounded out of his home, and obliged to change his identity and residence.
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
No it doesnt..
Stalin made them walk...
And the people who died were buried on the side of the road.... Or under the road if they were building it.
Corpses would have to be moved with trucks.
I believe the holocaust happened
I also believe that Germans who were born after it happened had nothing to do with it and should not be manipulated by guilt over it
I also believe that there is more than one "holocaust", and that the German one shouldn't crowd out all others. There's Mao and his millions of murders along with Stalin, Pol Pot, Chiang kai shek, Lenin to name just afew.
I like the the phrase "never again" but it should be applied to all atrocities and their victims, not just jews.
I noticed the title change lol.
My gf is always late. Lately, when she asks me the time, I'll say something like "the artist formerly known as 9:00" lol. In reference to day light savings time and Prince when he did his name change.
I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
Still the same SS thunderbolt avatar.
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
You been hacked by the joooos!!! lol :laugh:
Hmmmmmm, something not right at my end then...
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
You been hacked by the joooos!!! lol :laugh:
I knew it!!
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
Nobody has said anything to me SCOUSE..
But, it's okay now anyway.
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Not a few.
One.
Herr Jell.
Not just one.
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
Nobody has said anything to me SCOUSE..
But, it's okay now anyway.
ac_smile
I had a clear out on my laptop and everything is back to normal, I think I had picked up a virus or something from a dodgy movie site. :laugh:
I am not a brainwashed Jugh loving person. I have nothing to gain by Jugh-loving.
In that case, watch that Holocuast video I posted...
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I also notice that my avatar has gone, and smileys won't work for some reason....
Is anyone else having similar issues or is it at my end?
Nobody has said anything to me SCOUSE..
But, it's okay now anyway.
ac_smile
I had a clear out on my laptop and everything is back to normal, I think I had picked up a virus or something from a dodgy movie site. :laugh:
You have to be careful with some sites SCOUSE.
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
Its 2 fucking hours long???
Unlike you, I have a life!!! I have children and grandchildren, a dog and pool.
How about an executive summary?
BTW, I got 5 minutes in, and already the logic of argument comparing the treatment of Jews to the treatment of Japanese and Germans collapses. The Japanese and Germans were citizens of a nation at WAR with the US, UK, and Australia.
Who were the Jews at war with??
Drawing baseless comparisons dashes your credibility before you even get out of the blocks. It shows how the argument uses deceptive comparisons in lieu of fact and reason.
...you forgot to mention wife...
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
Its 2 fucking hours long???
Unlike you, I have a life!!! I have children and grandchildren, a dog and pool.
How about an executive summary?
BTW, I got 5 minutes in, and already the logic of argument comparing the treatment of Jews to the treatment of Japanese and Germans collapses. The Japanese and Germans were citizens of a nation at WAR with the US, UK, and Australia.
Who were the Jews at war with??
Drawing baseless comparisons dashes your credibility before you even get out of the blocks. It shows how the argument uses deceptive comparisons in lieu of fact and reason.
The Jews started WW2!!!
Try and keep up fella......

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...you forgot to mention wife...
Perhaps she got wind of his e-affair and buggered off...
Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
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...you forgot to mention wife...
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D'oh!!!
And she checks in from time to time. This is going to cost me!!
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
Its 2 fucking hours long???
Unlike you, I have a life!!! I have children and grandchildren, a dog and pool.
How about an executive summary?
BTW, I got 5 minutes in, and already the logic of argument comparing the treatment of Jews to the treatment of Japanese and Germans collapses. The Japanese and Germans were citizens of a nation at WAR with the US, UK, and Australia.
Who were the Jews at war with??
Drawing baseless comparisons dashes your credibility before you even get out of the blocks. It shows how the argument uses deceptive comparisons in lieu of fact and reason.
The Jews started WW2!!!
Try and keep up fella......

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Its a NEWSPAPER headline!!!
And what is this country called Judea? What, exactly, was the manner of prosecution of this "war"? Where are the tanks, infantry and air force marked with a Judean symbol??
We BOTH know that the headline is a metaphor, and the declaration by Jews was in response to the anti semitic government policies of the National Socialist Party. That headline has the same impact as "Liverpudlians declare war on Ireland".
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
Its 2 fucking hours long???
Unlike you, I have a life!!! I have children and grandchildren, a dog and pool.
How about an executive summary?
BTW, I got 5 minutes in, and already the logic of argument comparing the treatment of Jews to the treatment of Japanese and Germans collapses. The Japanese and Germans were citizens of a nation at WAR with the US, UK, and Australia.
Who were the Jews at war with??
Drawing baseless comparisons dashes your credibility before you even get out of the blocks. It shows how the argument uses deceptive comparisons in lieu of fact and reason.
The Jews started WW2!!!
Try and keep up fella......

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Its a NEWSPAPER headline!!!
And what is this country called Judea? What, exactly, was the manner of prosecution of this "war"? Where are the tanks, infantry and air force marked with a Judean symbol??
We BOTH know that the headline is a metaphor, and the declaration by Jews was in response to the anti semitic government policies of the National Socialist Party. That headline has the same impact as "Liverpudlians declare war on Ireland".
Judea is International Jewry and the war the headline was referring to was a trade war, which the Jews intended to utilise in an effort to alienate Germany from the rest of the world...... typical k1kefuckery tactics.
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Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
Huh?
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Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
Huh?
You're posting the same articles now as Islamic extremists.
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Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
Huh?
You're posting the same articles now as Islamic extremists.
It's irrelevant who else posts them, the fact is that they are genuine.
Muslims and National Socialists hate Jews for very different, yet valid reasons.
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Are you aware of how much effort it would take to dispose of 6 million bodies?
Not that difficult at all if you have any understanding of logistics and engineering.
Stalin exiled millions to Siberia and gulags. Hell, he moved the millions of Koreans living in the Russian far to Central Asia. That takes a lot more resources than moving corpses.
Watch the video I posted.
Its 2 fucking hours long???
Unlike you, I have a life!!! I have children and grandchildren, a dog and pool.
How about an executive summary?
BTW, I got 5 minutes in, and already the logic of argument comparing the treatment of Jews to the treatment of Japanese and Germans collapses. The Japanese and Germans were citizens of a nation at WAR with the US, UK, and Australia.
Who were the Jews at war with??
Drawing baseless comparisons dashes your credibility before you even get out of the blocks. It shows how the argument uses deceptive comparisons in lieu of fact and reason.
The Jews started WW2!!!
Try and keep up fella......

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/germany/express.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://radioislam.org/islam/english/je%20...%20xpress.jpg%22%3Ehttps://radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/germany/express.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Its a NEWSPAPER headline!!!
And what is this country called Judea? What, exactly, was the manner of prosecution of this "war"? Where are the tanks, infantry and air force marked with a Judean symbol??
We BOTH know that the headline is a metaphor, and the declaration by Jews was in response to the anti semitic government policies of the National Socialist Party. That headline has the same impact as "Liverpudlians declare war on Ireland".
Judea is International Jewry and the war the headline was referring to was a trade war, which the Jews intended to utilise in an effort to alienate Germany from the rest of the world...... typical k1kefuckery tactics.
Exactly.
And of course, trade sanctions are a new phenomenon, even in 1933. That's WAR baby.
If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
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Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
Huh?
You're posting the same articles now as Islamic extremists.
It's irrelevant who else posts them, the fact is that they are genuine.
Muslims and National Socialists hate Jews for very different, yet valid reasons.
Irrelevant??
You had a different opinion when Romero posted his links here..
Islamists and WW2 sympathizers have two things in common....a disregard for the truth and a common scapegoat.
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
Mainland Chinese proposed the same against Western colonial powers and Japan.
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Radio Islam SCOUSE?
Did you get that from extralegs on VF?
Huh?
You're posting the same articles now as Islamic extremists.
It's irrelevant who else posts them, the fact is that they are genuine.
Muslims and National Socialists hate Jews for very different, yet valid reasons.
Irrelevant??
You had a different opinion when Romero posted his links here..
Islamists and WW2 sympathizers have two things in common....a disregard for the truth and a common scapegoat.
Please explain which part of the 'truth' I have a disregard for....
^Biased editorials. That's all Homo-ero did. He didn't care that they were half truths or flat-out horseshit.
As for sanctions against one's oppressors, it's a common theme. Desmond Tutu during apartheid era South Afrika. Hell, I would've screaming for tough international sanctions against Japan prior to Pearl Harbour.
There is nothing biased in my favour regarding that newspaper article I posted, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the publication was Jewish owned......
^Of course it's biased horseshit. Like everything you post.
We agree on a lot, but as long as you keep shilling for billionaire Muslim sympathizers, you are part of the problem not the solution. Libtards are the enemy of the West. You think you would've figured that out by now from posting with Homo-ero, Rdubya, Peaches, Blurt, Fake Gay Boy Bob, mimi, Harry and so on. I guess some people never learn.
So an article from a newspaper showing Jews whipping up hatred against a nation is 'biased horseshit'? :laugh:
Why on earth you insist on shilling for Jews and ignoring their role in the promotion of mass immigration and multiculturalism in formerly white countries is beyond me. Although it maybe something to do with the fact that you don't particularly like white people in general, and you either don't care or choose to pretend it isn't happening.
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^Of course it's biased horseshit. Like everything you post.
We agree on a lot, but as long as you keep shilling for billionaire Muslim sympathizers, you are part of the problem not the solution. Libtards are the enemy of the West. You think you would've figured that out by now from posting with Homo-ero, Rdubya, Peaches, Blurt, Fake Gay Boy Bob, mimi, Harry and so on. I guess some people never learn.
I have no problem with Islamic immigration either Shen..
I have Muslim friends as well as my supervisor at work....she's lovely..
What I disagree with some of them is about criticism of Islam..
I expect secular people to mock my faith..
Islam is not above that and should not expect special protections.
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
Then categorise them as that. Who cares what their religion is??
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
Then categorise them as that. Who cares what their religion is??
I agree. I see either Fash or kiebers edited the thread to reflect the changes from the op. :laugh3:
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
Then categorise them as that. Who cares what their religion is??
Surely you realise that Jews are much more than a religion?
Also, the vast majority of Bolshevik leaders and agitators were Jewish...
Holocaust did happen..
Its no suprise that a bunch of WWI veteran brutes (like the nazis were) came up with a plan to destroy all unwanted people..
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
Then categorise them as that. Who cares what their religion is??
I agree. I see either Fash or kiebers edited the thread to reflect the changes from the op. :laugh3:
You're not here that often Velvet, this happens a lot.
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If it were MY people being brutalised by those brain dead bozos, or yours for that matter, I doubt we would stand by and watch politely.
I don't know what makes you think that Jews were targeted for no reason. Many of them were Communist/Bolshevik sympathisers.......
Then categorise them as that. Who cares what their religion is??
Surely you realise that Jews are much more than a religion?
Also, the vast majority of Bolshevik leaders and agitators were Jewish...
Every religion is much more than a religion. By definition, religion is also a political movement. That's why the Catholic Church was created in Rome; to enable the Roman emperor to rule Chistians with some authority. "Il Papa"...the Pope.
Without the means of applying some level of political influence, religions would have died centuries ago. Religion was the basis of wars throughout the UK and Europe in the middle ages, and still is to some extent.
Henry the 8th's daughter Elizabeth outlawed Catholicism because of its potential to undermine her monarchy, if memory serves.
Why would judeaism be any different?
ALL religions are subversive, and seek political influence, and I will agree that in this respect, the Jews have mastered the art insofar as the US is concerned. But no Jew has ever become President of the US.
To discuss judeaism as a scourge is to ignore the fact that ALL religion is an anchor to civilisations progress.
Jews like to pull the strings from behind the scenes, that is why there has never been a Jewish president. However, you won't find a President who is anti-Jewish, they all have to toe the Kosher line.
You also neglect to acknowledge the existence of the wealthy Jewish banking families, who arguably are the wealthiest people on the planet. Their enormous wealth and tactic of working together as a cabal allows them to wield unrivaled power and influence, which they use to control politicians, Presidents, Prime Ministers and all kind of other leaders throughout the west. The Rothschilds for instance are trillionaires, not that they like to admit this fact, and you rarely if ever will see them listed on any 'rich lists'.
A more accurate description of them and their behavior is 'International Jewry', but of course both the left and Jews alike have dismissed the phrase as being a Conspiracy theory, in an attempt to undermine and ridicule those who use the term.
Judaism as an identity has ceased to exist except among the haredim and perhaps the orthodox.