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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 09:28:25 PM

Title: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 09:28:25 PM
More service jobs will go courtesy of technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBtT5NmCsg
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Berry Sweet on November 13, 2017, 09:33:26 PM
its easier to rip stuff off that way...same with the automatic check outs.  It's really not that hard.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"its easier to rip stuff off that way...same with the automatic check outs.  It's really not that hard.

I have seen people get busted for that at Safeway/Sobeys.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Berry Sweet on November 13, 2017, 09:42:06 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"its easier to rip stuff off that way...same with the automatic check outs.  It's really not that hard.

I have seen people get busted for that at Safeway/Sobeys.


Really?  What items?  Everywhere I go no one is paying attention.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"its easier to rip stuff off that way...same with the automatic check outs.  It's really not that hard.

I have seen people get busted for that at Safeway/Sobeys.


Really?  What items?  Everywhere I go no one is paying attention.

I don't know what they stole, but in both cases somebody  came out of nowhere and apprehended them.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Berry Sweet on November 13, 2017, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"its easier to rip stuff off that way...same with the automatic check outs.  It's really not that hard.

I have seen people get busted for that at Safeway/Sobeys.


Really?  What items?  Everywhere I go no one is paying attention.

I don't know what they stole, but in both cases somebody  came out of nowhere and apprehended them.


Sux to be them.  There are so many people who do it.  Its like leaving large items under the cart at the superstore...
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 13, 2017, 09:49:55 PM
We've had them for years in many stores.



Doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"We've had them for years in many stores.



Doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

I remember reading that due to higher labour costs in the Australian service sector, they are more efficient ie fewer employees.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 13, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
Seems to be. Labour costs are way too high for many businesses. Any means to reduce them will be implemented.



This technology is relatively innocuous...soon we will have RF price tags that will tally your shopping cart as soon as you put the item in it. You simply scan your credit card on the way out. No checkouts.



Also, many shops in the UK have already done away with checkouts. Self paying stations are in many stores.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Seems to be. Labour costs are way too high for many businesses. Any means to reduce them will be implemented.



This technology is relatively innocuous...soon we will have RF price tags that will tally your shopping cart as soon as you put the item in it. You simply scan your credit card on the way out. No checkouts.



Also, many shops in the UK have already done away with checkouts. Self paying stations are in many stores.

My province will soon have a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, so I expect we'll see that soon.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 13, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
Yep. No doubt.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"More service jobs will go courtesy of technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBtT5NmCsg

And our government is shilling for businesses by bringing far too many immigrants and refugees. What do you so many people competing for too few jobs do to wages and benfits for remaining jobs?
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2017, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Seems to be. Labour costs are way too high for many businesses. Any means to reduce them will be implemented.



This technology is relatively innocuous...soon we will have RF price tags that will tally your shopping cart as soon as you put the item in it. You simply scan your credit card on the way out. No checkouts.



Also, many shops in the UK have already done away with checkouts. Self paying stations are in many stores.

My province will soon have a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, so I expect we'll see that soon.

Automation will continue to eliminate jobs in the service industry no matter what. Governments raising minimum wages quickly will speed up the transition.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 13, 2017, 11:36:24 PM
One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 01:03:23 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.

I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..



With my tips I made more money than the owners on Friday and Saturday nights..



They could not afford a big forced increase.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.

I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..



With my tips I made more money than the owners on Friday and Saturday nights..



They could not afford a big forced increase.

RW supports big, quick minimum wage increases. While her heart is in the right place on this issue he head is not. It will have a deleterious affect on the very people it's supposed to help.



A better solution for unskilled  service  employees and their employers would be for provincial and federal governments would be to  remove them entirely from income tax rolls. They would end with the same after tax income. Sadly, neither Ottawa  nor  the provinces is prepared to increase the basic exemption up to about 27 grand. I see Trump and  house GOP are looking at raising the US basic exemption to about 24 grand. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 14, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
RW has had no experience in private industry. She has no knowledge of the tribulations involved in maintaining cash flow to ensure workers are paid.



She has always assumed that if you're in business, you're always making a profit, so can afford to pay people high wages.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.

I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..



With my tips I made more money than the owners on Friday and Saturday nights..



They could not afford a big forced increase.

RW supports big, quick minimum wage increases. While her heart is in the right place on this issue he head is not. It will have a deleterious affect on the very people it's supposed to help.



A better solution for unskilled  service  employees and their employers would be for provincial and federal governments would be to  remove them entirely from income tax rolls. They would end with the same after tax income. Sadly, neither Ottawa  nor  the provinces is prepared to increase the basic exemption up to about 27 grand. I see Trump and  house GOP are looking at raising the US basic exemption to about 24 grand. :thumbup:

How about paying them more money and a tax exemption.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 14, 2017, 08:03:33 PM
One of Margaret Thatcher's great achievements, in my view, was to dismantle the concept of minimum wage in the UK. She allowed employers and employees to negotiate their own wages and increased the tax threshold. The result was indeed a general reduction of real wages, but a massive increase in jobs. Even now, its hard to walk around a shopping centre or city shopping precinct without seeing jobs advertised in windows.



She went to war with the unions, particularly the coal miners union, and won a decisive victory by sticking to her principle that unions protect workers at the expense of those without jobs. Nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"RW has had no experience in private industry. She has no knowledge of the tribulations involved in maintaining cash flow to ensure workers are paid.



She has always assumed that if you're in business, you're always making a profit, so can afford to pay people high wages.

Hard to  believe there are people so ignorant.



Lefties don't know and don't care what's involved in meeting a payroll.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.

I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..



With my tips I made more money than the owners on Friday and Saturday nights..



They could not afford a big forced increase.

RW supports big, quick minimum wage increases. While her heart is in the right place on this issue he head is not. It will have a deleterious affect on the very people it's supposed to help.



A better solution for unskilled  service  employees and their employers would be for provincial and federal governments would be to  remove them entirely from income tax rolls. They would end with the same after tax income. Sadly, neither Ottawa  nor  the provinces is prepared to increase the basic exemption up to about 27 grand. I see Trump and  house GOP are looking at raising the US basic exemption to about 24 grand. :thumbup:

How about paying them more money and a tax exemption.

Because it increases the burden on already struggling, overworked small business owners.



Increasing the tax exemption for low wage earners is a good idea.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Bricktop on November 14, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
Reducing wages creates more jobs.



Reducing taxes increases disposable income.



Disposable income creates more wealth.



More wealth creates more tax.



Its not hard.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2017, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Reducing wages creates more jobs.



Reducing taxes increases disposable income.



Disposable income creates more wealth.



More wealth creates more tax.



Its not hard.

Creating more jobs increases wages.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Zetsu on November 14, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"One man's pay rise is another man's job loss.

Particularly when wages are arbitrarily raised quickly.

I was a waitress in a Chinese restaurant..



With my tips I made more money than the owners on Friday and Saturday nights..



They could not afford a big forced increase.

RW supports big, quick minimum wage increases. While her heart is in the right place on this issue he head is not. It will have a deleterious affect on the very people it's supposed to help.



A better solution for unskilled  service  employees and their employers would be for provincial and federal governments would be to  remove them entirely from income tax rolls. They would end with the same after tax income. Sadly, neither Ottawa  nor  the provinces is prepared to increase the basic exemption up to about 27 grand. I see Trump and  house GOP are looking at raising the US basic exemption to about 24 grand. :thumbup:

How about paying them more money and a tax exemption.


Before we used to be able to hire around 1200 employees in Hongkong, Shenzhen and Shanghai but now its less than half and replaced by automation and robotic arms since CCP started raising up the country's wages for the past 5-6 years.  Some workers were benefited but the other half became unemployed, our company growth is declining and more and more business are moving to Thailand and Vietnam, quality control of made in China goods has drastically dropped too after the pass of the new labour laws.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2017, 12:07:22 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Before we used to be able to hire around 1200 employees in Hongkong, Shenzhen and Shanghai but now its less than half and replaced by automation and robotic arms since CCP started raising up the country's wages for the past 5-6 years.  Some workers were benefited but the other half became unemployed, our company growth is declining and more and more business are moving to Thailand and Vietnam, quality control of made in China goods has drastically dropped too after the pass of the new labour laws.

Do  you mean the quality of Chinese made goods has declined as China improved labour laws?

 ac_wot
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Zetsu on November 15, 2017, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Before we used to be able to hire around 1200 employees in Hongkong, Shenzhen and Shanghai but now its less than half and replaced by automation and robotic arms since CCP started raising up the country's wages for the past 5-6 years.  Some workers were benefited but the other half became unemployed, our company growth is declining and more and more business are moving to Thailand and Vietnam, quality control of made in China goods has drastically dropped too after the pass of the new labour laws.

Do  you mean the quality of Chinese made goods has declined as China improved labour laws?

 ac_wot


Yea, with the new 3 strikes process to fire an employee, a lot of them are really slacking off.  If they messed up first you have to give them a warning, if it happens again the employer needs to retrain him, if he messed up again you'll need to redirect him to another post before they can be fired.  But thanks to the economy greatly slowing down the government finally decided to stop raising the wages and introducing any more nonsense.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2017, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yea, with the new 3 strikes process to fire an employee, a lot of them are really slacking off.  If they messed up first you have to give them a warning, if it happens again the employer needs to retrain him, if he messed up again you'll need to redirect him to another post before they can be fired.  But thanks to the economy greatly slowing down the government finally decided to stop raising the wages and introducing any more nonsense.

That is for all employers, big and small?



I heard  the Chinese economy is picking up again..



Imports are rising and so are C02 emissions.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Zetsu on November 15, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yea, with the new 3 strikes process to fire an employee, a lot of them are really slacking off.  If they messed up first you have to give them a warning, if it happens again the employer needs to retrain him, if he messed up again you'll need to redirect him to another post before they can be fired.  But thanks to the economy greatly slowing down the government finally decided to stop raising the wages and introducing any more nonsense.

That is for all employers, big and small?



I heard  the Chinese economy is picking up again..



Imports are rising and so are C02 emissions.


It should apply to most business in mainland China, at least for us, lol.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Zetsu on November 15, 2017, 12:40:58 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2017, 12:52:14 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yea, with the new 3 strikes process to fire an employee, a lot of them are really slacking off.  If they messed up first you have to give them a warning, if it happens again the employer needs to retrain him, if he messed up again you'll need to redirect him to another post before they can be fired.  But thanks to the economy greatly slowing down the government finally decided to stop raising the wages and introducing any more nonsense.

That is for all employers, big and small?



I heard  the Chinese economy is picking up again..



Imports are rising and so are C02 emissions.


It should apply to most business in mainland China, at least for us, lol.

That's very intrusive not to mention a disincentive to hiring.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Thiel on November 15, 2017, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"RW has had no experience in private industry. She has no knowledge of the tribulations involved in maintaining cash flow to ensure workers are paid.



She has always assumed that if you're in business, you're always making a profit, so can afford to pay people high wages.

That is painfully obvious. I wish I could make her a managerial employee for me for a week, so she can see for herself how hard it is to keep employees on payrolls. Meddling governments keep it making it more difficult.
Title: Re: Walmart scan and go
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2017, 11:23:06 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"RW has had no experience in private industry. She has no knowledge of the tribulations involved in maintaining cash flow to ensure workers are paid.



She has always assumed that if you're in business, you're always making a profit, so can afford to pay people high wages.

Wow. Just wow.