Why are these allegations coming out now? What happened? It's a sexual harassment revolution!
I am disappointed in Charlie Rose.
[size=200]Eight women say Charlie Rose sexually harassed them — with nudity, groping and lewd calls[/size]
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Eight women have told The Washington Post that longtime television host Charlie Rose made unwanted sexual advances toward them, including lewd phone calls, walking around naked in their presence, or groping their breasts, buttocks or genital areas.
The women were employees or aspired to work for Rose at the "Charlie Rose" show from the late 1990s to as recently as 2011. They ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the alleged encounters. Rose, 75, whose show airs on PBS and Bloomberg TV, also co-hosts "CBS This Morning" and is a contributing correspondent for "60 Minutes."
There are striking commonalities in the accounts of the women, each of whom described their interactions with Rose in multiple interviews with The Post. For all of the women, reporters interviewed friends, colleagues or family members who said the women had confided in them about aspects of the incidents. Three of the eight spoke on the record.
Five of the women spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of Rose's stature in the industry, his power over their careers or what they described as his volatile temper.
"In my 45 years in journalism, I have prided myself on being an advocate for the careers of the women with whom I have worked," Rose said in a statement provided to The Post. "Nevertheless, in the past few days, claims have been made about my behavior toward some former female colleagues.
"It is essential that these women know I hear them and that I deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed. I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept responsibility for that, though I do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate. I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken.
"I have learned a great deal as a result of these events, and I hope others will too. All of us, including me, are coming to a newer and deeper recognition of the pain caused by conduct in the past, and have come to a profound new respect for women and their lives."
Within hours of the publication of this story, PBS and Bloomberg LP immediately suspended distribution of the "Charlie Rose" show. CBS announced that it was suspending Rose as it looked into the matter.
Most of the women said Rose alternated between fury and flattery in his interactions with them. Five described Rose putting his hand on their legs, sometimes their upper thigh, in what they perceived as a test to gauge their reactions. Two said that while they were working for Rose at his residences or were traveling with him on business, he emerged from the shower and walked naked in front of them. One said he groped her buttocks at a staff party.
Reah Bravo was an intern and then associate producer for Rose's PBS show beginning in 2007. In interviews, she described unwanted sexual advances while working for Rose at his private waterfront estate in Bellport, N.Y., and while traveling with him in cars, in a hotel suite and on a private plane.
"It has taken 10 years and a fierce moment of cultural reckoning for me to understand these moments for what they were," she told The Post. "He was a sexual predator, and I was his victim."
Kyle Godfrey-Ryan, one of Rose's assistants in the mid-2000s, recalled at least a dozen instances where Rose walked nude in front of her while she worked in one of his New York City homes. He also repeatedly called the then-21-year-old late at night or early in the morning to describe his fantasies of her swimming naked in the Bellport pool as he watched from his bedroom, she said.
"It feels branded into me, the details of it," Godfrey-Ryan said.
She said she told Yvette Vega, Rose's longtime executive producer, about the calls.
"I explained how he inappropriately spoke to me during those times," Godfrey-Ryan said. "She would just shrug and just say, 'That's just Charlie being Charlie.' "
In a statement to The Post, Vega said she should have done more to protect the young women on the show.
"I should have stood up for them," said Vega, 52, who has worked with Rose since the show was created in 1991. "I failed. It is crushing. I deeply regret not helping them."
Godfrey-Ryan said that when Rose learned she had confided to a mutual friend about his conduct, he fired her.
Megan Creydt worked as a coordinator on the show from 2005 to 2006, overlapping with Godfrey-Ryan.
"It was quite early in working there that he put his hand on my mid-thigh," said Creydt, who agreed to be interviewed on the record to support other women who were coming forward with what she deemed to be more serious claims concerning Rose.
She said that during the incident, Rose was driving his Mini Cooper in Manhattan while she was sitting in the passenger seat.
"I don't think I said anything," she said. "I tensed up. I didn't move his hand off, but I pulled my legs to the other side of the car. I tried not to get in a car with him ever again. I think he was testing me out."
Her then-boyfriend confirmed to The Post that she told him the story at the time.
In addition to the eight women who say they were harassed, The Post spoke to about two dozen former employees who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Six said they saw what they considered to be harassment, eight said they were uncomfortable with Rose's treatment of female employees, and 10 said they did not see or hear anything concerning.
"He was always professional with me," said Eleonore Marchand Mueller, a former assistant of Rose's who worked for him from 2003 to 2005. "I never witnessed any unprofessional incidents."
The show's small, informal structure, with roughly 15 employees, and the centrality of Rose's authority on a program he owns led to uncertainty over how to respond, said the women who felt victimized. "There wasn't anybody to report this to if you felt uncomfortable," one of them said.
The employees worked for Charlie Rose Inc., and not Bloomberg LP or PBS, which said they did not provide human resources support for the show.
The environment brimmed with the young and potentially vulnerable, hungry for scarce television jobs. "There are so few jobs," said one of the women who said Rose groped her. "You know if you don't behave a certain way, there's someone else behind you."
Rose traveled frequently, jetting off to interview world leaders across the globe and splitting time between two New York City residences and homes in Bellport — on Long Island — and North Carolina. Often at his side was a rotating cast of young assistants and producers.
The young women who were hired by the show were sometimes known as "Charlie's Angels," two former employeessaid. Rose frequently gave unsolicited shoulder rubs to several of them, behavior referred to among employees as "the crusty paw," a former employee said.
Rumors about Rose's behavior have circulated for years. One of the authors of this report, Outlook contributing writerIrin Carmon, first heard and attempted to report on the allegations involving two of the women while she was a journalist at Jezebel in 2010 but was unable to confirm them. In the past several weeks in the wake of accusations against Harvey Weinstein, Carmon and Post investigative reporter Amy Brittain jointly began contacting dozens of men and women who had worked on the "Charlie Rose" show or interviewed for jobs there.
I too find it odd so many accusations of sexual harassment are happening at the same time.
https://youtu.be/ELH9FloIeyE
Some of the recent accusations are no doubt true. But, some are digging for gold.
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Some of the recent accusations are no doubt true. But, some are digging for gold.
I don't know what or who to believe.
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Some of the recent accusations are no doubt true. But, some are digging for gold.
I don't know what or who to believe.
Meh, it's tabloid fodder.
It seems that some complainants are emboldened by the reaction to that Weinstein creep, and are not as fearful as they were up until then. Some of these media "celebrities" believe that they truly are gods amongst mortals, as American celebrity worship has protected them for so long. The house of cards is teetering...as with so much of western culture.
Dark days ahead for us all. No doubt there will be "outings" in Australia. The UK has already had to deal with former (KNIGHTED) celebrities exposed as paedophiles. Celebrities are a component of the ruling elite, and perhaps the thin edge of that wedge. I sometimes think we are watching the collapse of that class who considered them above the average man. Politicians, celebrities, journalists, academics and religions are in for a very tough time.
Here's the problem though... It just seems with some occupations, certain personality traits are a part of their 'success'...
We all know this. The 'best' musicians are often the most fucked up, etc.
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It seems that some complainants are emboldened by the reaction to that Weinstein creep, and are not as fearful as they were up until then. Some of these media "celebrities" believe that they truly are gods amongst mortals, as American celebrity worship has protected them for so long. The house of cards is teetering...as with so much of western culture.
Dark days ahead for us all. No doubt there will be "outings" in Australia. The UK has already had to deal with former (KNIGHTED) celebrities exposed as paedophiles. Celebrities are a component of the ruling elite, and perhaps the thin edge of that wedge. I sometimes think we are watching the collapse of that class who considered them above the average man. Politicians, celebrities, journalists, academics and religions are in for a very tough time.
Hmm, that's a good point.
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Some of the recent accusations are no doubt true. But, some are digging for gold.
All of them are digging for gold..
The vultures are now bringing up all the dirty jokes they have heard some man say.
The list is getting rather huge.
First there was Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton who were the pioneers :laugh:
Then Came the flood-
Harvey Weinstein,
Kevin Spacey
Oliver stone
Charlie Rose
Roy Moore (running for senate)
Al Franken (senator)
John Conyers (former house member)
George HW Bush
Mark Halperin (journalist)
Louie CK
Ben Affleck
George Takai
Dustin Hoffman
John Travolta
Richard Dreyfuss
Sylvester Stallone
John Travolta
Charlie Sheen
Steve Saegal
Russell Simmons
Andy Dick
John Singleton
Jesse Jackson
and a bunch more people I never heard of before.
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The list is getting rather huge.
First there was Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton who were the pioneers :laugh:
Then Came the flood-
Harvey Weinstein,
Kevin Spacey
Oliver stone
Charlie Rose
Roy Moore (running for senate)
Al Franken (senator)
John Conyers (former house member)
George HW Bush
Mark Halperin (journalist)
Louie CK
Ben Affleck
George Takai
Dustin Hoffman
John Travolta
Richard Dreyfuss
Sylvester Stallone
John Travolta
Charlie Sheen
Steve Saegal
Russell Simmons
Andy Dick
John Singleton
Jesse Jackson
and a bunch more people I never heard of before.
That's a big and growing list.
Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
The bitches figured out they make money from this..
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
The bitches figured out they make money from this..
Including those gay bitches in Kevin Spacey's case.
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
I think it takes courage to be open about your past or worried no one would believe in it, assuming if they're alone. And like others have mentioned motivation for some money wouldn't be a surprising factor.
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
I think it takes courage to be open about your past or worried no one would believe in it, assuming if they're alone. And like others have mentioned motivation for some money wouldn't be a surprising factor.
And this is where the cynicism of some people comes in Zetsu.
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
I think it takes courage to be open about your past or worried no one would believe in it, assuming if they're alone. And like others have mentioned motivation for some money wouldn't be a surprising factor.
And this is where the cynicism of some people comes in Zetsu.
I duno for sure, but you could be right and they only want to seek justice for all those years of harassment but seeking for money too is a pretty common issue among victims. Though I believe we're only scratching the surface atm.
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Bill Clinton
Rolf Harris
Jimmy Saville
Bill O'Reilly
Hundreds of priests, doctors, and many other corporate moguls.
Political chaos in Germany, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and the US.
The times they are a changing...
Why all these accusations now though?
I think it takes courage to be open about your past or worried no one would believe in it, assuming if they're alone. And like others have mentioned motivation for some money wouldn't be a surprising factor.
And this is where the cynicism of some people comes in Zetsu.
I duno for sure, but you could be right and they only want to seek justice for all those years of harassment but seeking for money too is a pretty common issue among victims. Though I believe we're only scratching the surface atm.
I just don't know Zetsu..
I definitely believe some allegations are true..
And probably at least some are exaggerated.
Or maybe the media and the ones accusing is hyping it due to Trumps presidency. Not saying all though. But it does make him look worse due to prior stuff they have tried nailing him with. They are doing all they can to not let him win a second term. It may not point to him directly, but they know in the back of peoples minds they associate it with him due to recent events. I think anyway lol.
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Or maybe the media and the ones accusing is hyping it due to Trumps presidency. Not saying all though. But it does make him look worse due to prior stuff they have tried nailing him with. They are doing all they can to not let him win a second term. It may not point to him directly, but they know in the back of peoples minds they associate it with him due to recent events. I think anyway lol.
I know the establishment in both parties are going to do anything to keep an outsider like Trump from winning again.
Two more women have come forward to accuse Al Franken of grabbing their asses.
Normal men grab loads of women asses...
The difference is that normal men are not millionaires so there is no gain in suing them.
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Two more women have come forward to accuse Al Franken of grabbing their asses.
Progs won't demand he resign.
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Two more women have come forward to accuse Al Franken of grabbing their asses.
I'm sure there will be more.
Construction workers are not really catcalling/harassing women..
They are laughing out loud when a female is wearing a waterline dress even though there cold outside. ac_biggrin
Women wear really tight pants and they know they are gonna get whistling.. Thats what they want and yet complain about it.
Its kinda like when a man complains about his wallet being too small for his 500buck bills..
Brings tears to my eyes.
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Two more women have come forward to accuse Al Franken of grabbing their asses.
Progs won't demand he resign.
I looked at Yahoo news right after these women came forward about franken and there were ten articles on Roy Moore and only one on Al Franken and none on John Conyers..
This is just a replay of the left saying it didn't matter when Bill Clinton raped and groped women but Trump can't be prsident because he said something about grabbing pussies.
If it weren't for double standards these people wouldn't have any standards at all.
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Two more women have come forward to accuse Al Franken of grabbing their asses.
Progs won't demand he resign.
I looked at Yahoo news right after these women came forward about franken and there were ten articles on Roy Moore and only one on Al Franken and none on John Conyers..
This is just a replay of the left saying it didn't matter when Bill Clinton raped and groped women but Trump can't be prsident because he said something about grabbing pussies.
If it weren't for double standards these people wouldn't have any standards at all.
Sexual harassment accusations should only be taken seriously when the accused is not a progtard.
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The list is getting rather huge.
First there was Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton who were the pioneers :laugh:
Then Came the flood-
Harvey Weinstein,
Kevin Spacey
Oliver stone
Charlie Rose
Roy Moore (running for senate)
Al Franken (senator)
John Conyers (former house member)
George HW Bush
Mark Halperin (journalist)
Louie CK
Ben Affleck
George Takai
Dustin Hoffman
John Travolta
Richard Dreyfuss
Sylvester Stallone
John Travolta
Charlie Sheen
Steve Saegal
Russell Simmons
Andy Dick
John Singleton
Jesse Jackson
and a bunch more people I never heard of before.
Why is Micheal Jackson not on that list.. He still seemed to keep it hushed..
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Why is Micheal Jackson not on that list.. He still seemed to keep it hushed..
He's dead.
LOL ...
Meant why were these accusations not initiated during that time, seemed it would have been ideal timing for those cases instead of jumping on class action lawsuits .. lots of hush money , but now they need this chaos to bring further "justices" and less freedoms.. this world is in for something big to clean the scales and restore civil order..
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LOL ...
Meant why were these accusations not initiated during that time, seemed it would have been ideal timing for those cases instead of jumping on class action lawsuits .. lots of hush money , but now they need this chaos to bring further "justices" and less freedoms.. this world is in for something big to clean the scales and restore civil order..
The timing of all these accusations does seem strange.
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LOL ...
Meant why were these accusations not initiated during that time, seemed it would have been ideal timing for those cases instead of jumping on class action lawsuits .. lots of hush money , but now they need this chaos to bring further "justices" and less freedoms.. this world is in for something big to clean the scales and restore civil order..
The timing of all these accusations does seem strange.
There were tricklles of this stuff for years, but the weinstein stuff opened up the floodgates.
before the Weinstein stuff, reporters probably didnt report info they got on celebs harassing people, because they didn't think their readers would care. Then the weintstein stuff came out and became huge news. Seeing that people were interested, the press started reporting every harassment allegation they could find. Then a lot of people who normally would not have come forward about being harassed by hollywood celebs came forward to tell the press, because they knew they would be listened to.
I could be wrong, but that's my take on why now.
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There were tricklles of this stuff for years, but the weinstein stuff opened up the floodgates.
before the Weinstein stuff, reporters probably didnt report info they got on celebs harassing people, because they didn't think their readers would care. Then the weintstein stuff came out and became huge news. Seeing that people were interested, the press started reporting every harassment allegation they could find. Then a lot of people who normally would not have come forward about being harassed by hollywood celebs came forward to tell the press, because they knew they would be listened to.
I could be wrong, but that's my take on why now.
I do not doubt celebs have no problem harassing people they look down on. But, some of the accusers have to be digging for gold.
It's high time these matters are brought out into the open. There are truly men who treat women unjustly and they should be called out on it and it must be stopped. It is not okay.
I fear that this is just the beginning...
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It's high time these matters are brought out into the open. There are truly men who treat women unjustly and they should be called out on it and it must be stopped. It is not okay.
Nobody is saying it is okay. But, don't you think some of the accusers are liars blackmailing for a buck?
That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
As in all bunches, there will be bad ones. An investigation as to the validity of the claim should be conducted.
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As in all bunches, there will be bad ones. An investigation as to the validity of the claim should be conducted.
And if any claims are found to be fraudulent, harsh criminal punishments should be administered. If not criminal, than the falsely accused should receive a whopping judgment against the scammers.
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
Really?
Hillary Clinton grabbed my balls!!!
Who do I send the invoice to?
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
Really?
Hillary Clinton grabbed my balls!!!
Who do I send the invoice to?
Eunuchs dont have Balls ...........Im calling SHENANIGANS on ya ludicrous claim .
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
Really?
Hillary Clinton grabbed my balls!!!
Who do I send the invoice to?
Not the US congress since she is no longer a senator----Thank the big guy.
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
Really?
Hillary Clinton grabbed my balls!!!
Who do I send the invoice to?
Not the US congress since she is no longer a senator----Thank the big guy.
What is GOD getting thanked for ?
TRUMP is only his messenger .
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
There were two Liberal members of our federal parliament who were accused of sexual harassment.
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That makes no sense; unless they sue in a civil court, they don't get a penny. And because its a criminal matter, the fact that a rape or similar occurred in a criminal court does not mean that a civil hearing would succeed. Also, they would have to prove damages...which would be very difficult if you've lived an opulent life for 20 years.
There's very little money in victimhood.
They do not want to go to court. The gold digging accusers are looking for settlements. The US congress has paid out more than $17 million in settlements in the last twenty years.
Really?
Hillary Clinton grabbed my balls!!!
Who do I send the invoice to?
Not the US congress since she is no longer a senator----Thank the big guy.
Damn.
I suppose I can wash the fingerprint powder off now.
One of Australia's popular media personalities has just been fingered;
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/11/27/tv-icon-don-burke-accused-of-sexual-assault.html
The guy is an asshole anyway.
Another one.
[size=200]Rep. John Conyers steps down from committee leadership position amid harassment accusations[/size]
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/nancy-pelosi-john-conyers-deserves-due-process-n823991
WASHINGTON — Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., stepped down as the ranking Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee on Sunday, following sexual harassment accusations.
The 27-term congressman said he denied the allegations, but was stepping down because of the ongoing House Ethics Committee investigation.
"I deny these allegations, many of which were raised by documents reportedly paid for by a partisan alt-right blogger. I very much look forward to vindicating myself and my family before the House Committee on Ethics," Conyers said in a statement.
"To be clear, I would like very much to remain as Ranking Member," he added. "There is still much work to be done on core concerns like securing civil rights, enacting meaningful criminal justice reform, and protecting access to the ballot box."
Appearing on "Meet The Press" earlier in the day, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi urged "due process" before making conclusions about Rep. Conyers, saying the congressman is "an icon" who has worked to protect women.
"We are strengthened by due process. Just because someone is accused — and was it one accusation? Is it two?" Pelosi asked.
"John Conyers is an icon in our country. He has done a great deal to protect women - Violence Against Women Act, which the left — right-wing — is now quoting me as praising him for his work on that, and he did great work on that," she added. "But the fact is, as John reviews his case, which he knows, which I don't, I believe he will do the right thing."
Conyers' office recently confirmed issuing a settlement of $27,000 to a former staffer who says she was fired for resisting the congressman's sexual advances. Conyers has acknowledged the payout, which he said amounted to a severance package, but he denied the allegations about what it was for.
The payout from Conyers' office first became public in a report published by Buzzfeed on Monday, and came after a number of men in powerful positions in politics, entertainment and media have faced public accusations of sexual harassment. The accusations have opened up a national conversation about how women are treated in the workplace by men in positions of power.
When asked specifically whether she believes the accusations against Conyers, Pelosi said: "I do not know who they are. Do you? They have not really come forward."
She repeatedly said that she wants to see the House Ethics Committee investigation of Conyers play out.
Conyers has held the powerful position on Capitol Hill as the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee for a decade, but after Pelosi's interview on Sunday, he announced that he would step down from the position while the Ethics Committee investigates.
Pelosi said in a statement later Sunday, "Zero tolerance means consequences. I have asked for an ethics investigation, and as that investigation continues, Congressman Conyers has agreed to step aside as Ranking Member."
Its becoming endemic.
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Another one.
I've heard of John Conyers.
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Another one.
The media will not make as a big of a deal out of this as they did about Moore.
Now Richard Branson has been outed.
I think some of these complaints are getting vexatious.
We are perhaps to believe that all these women are not flirtatious and alluring??
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Now Richard Branson has been outed.
I think some of these complaints are getting vexatious.
We are perhaps to believe that all these women are not flirtatious and alluring??
That has been suggested here.
These things only affect the credibility of real harassment cases negatively.
When someone is 92, they don't give a flying fuck whether their opinion is politically correct.
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Angela Lansbury has sparked controversy by suggesting women should accept ''some of the blame'' in some instances of sexual misconduct committed by men.
The 92-year-old actress - famous for her roles in 'Beauty and the Beast', TV series 'Murder She Wrote' and 'Nanny McPhee' - was quizzed about her opinion on the avalanche of sexual harassment and assault claims sweeping through Hollywood at present in an interview with Radio Times magazine, and she stated that sometimes there can be ''two sides to this coin'' due to the revealing and alluring clothes ladies wear.
She said: ''There are two sides to this coin. We have to own up to the fact women, since time immemorial, have gone out of their way to make themselves attractive. And unfortunately it has backfired on us, and this is where we are today. We must sometimes take blame. Although it's awful to say we can't make ourselves look as attractive as possible without being knocked down and raped.'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/celebrity/angela-lansbury-sparks-controversy-with-sexual-harassment-comments/ar-BBFSrJ1?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
I disagree with old Angela. A gal that shows off her body in tight or revealing clothing wants attention, not unwelcome touching.
Several things covered here but the one thing Susan Sarandon says about her hollywood experience is she just said NO...
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war
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One of the questions currently being asked is whether what Sarandon describes – the inability of many women even to conceptualise themselves as victims – is a function of "liberation" or internalised misogynistic denial. For Sarandon's part, nothing post-Weinstein has made her reassess her own past. "Certainly, I experienced both having people come on to me and being told that I wasn't interesting enough to get a part, or sexual enough, once they found out I was married," she says. She also admits she was lucky; that, unlike many of the women coming forward today, Sarandon's resolve was never put to the test. "In my case, I just said no, in many clumsy, stupid ways, but the people didn't push on. They didn't show up in my room. They didn't corner me, or batter me, or get on top of me. It was an invitation: 'Yeah, why don't you spend the night now that you're here in the middle of nowhere on location?' And I said: 'No, I gotta get back to my room.' But I didn't feel super offended, because it wasn't a thing that became super difficult."
I agree with old Angela. It all has to do with "choices, choices." Sure, they want attention. They will get the wrong attention too and the wrong attention will try all they can to get as much as they can from the female revealing so much. That is how it goes, unfortunately, especially in that industry, in show business. It is all very simple. You show some skin, you're wanting to be noticed. You are noticed. Someone who noticed will approach you and want to get farther with you. Some women probably wanted the attention because they are looking for someone. If they aren't then they can express that and the pursuer need not go farther with her. Some women will entertain the admirer and then the hanky panky begins. Some of these women will claim they were harrassed while some of these women knew exactly what they were getting into. When I was younger, I did not agree with this statement. As I get older, I believe in it more.
Without dressing up provocatively, a woman is already fair game to the creeps out there. How much more if she were indeed provocatively dressed? It's like leaving cheese out for the rodents.
Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
That certainly could be. All I've heard so far is there is one accuser and there might be others. But this is just getting out there, maybe more info will follow.
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
That certainly could be. All I've heard so far is there is one accuser and there might be others. But this is just getting out there, maybe more info will follow.
I don't know. It seems men are guilty until proven innocent.
How would a guy like it if I said, "Nice sweater. Keep bending over like that. It's a nice view..." :laugh3:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUiwwOZDoY
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUiwwOZDoY
Isn't that rich. ac_toofunny
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUiwwOZDoY
If the allegations about Matt Lauer are true, he has no shame,
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
That certainly could be. All I've heard so far is there is one accuser and there might be others. But this is just getting out there, maybe more info will follow.
I don't know. It seems men are guilty until proven innocent.
As much as I've enjoyed watching all these leftists pols and hollywood liberal men getting stomped on, I can't help worry that there may be some bad repurcussions to all this.
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUiwwOZDoY
good find :thumbup:
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
That certainly could be. All I've heard so far is there is one accuser and there might be others. But this is just getting out there, maybe more info will follow.
I don't know. It seems men are guilty until proven innocent.
As much as I've enjoyed watching all these leftists pols and hollywood liberal men getting stomped on, I can't help worry that there may be some bad repurcussions to all this.
All these accusations all at the same time seems more than a little suspicious..
But, I have no doubt some accusations are true.
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Another big name (at least in the US) Matt Lauer, coanchor of NBC's today show for twenty years gets fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831
I just finished reading that.
What surprised me most is, bam they fired him immediately, no announcement that they were looking into it, no nothing.
Or they are not revealing details of what they know.
That certainly could be. All I've heard so far is there is one accuser and there might be others. But this is just getting out there, maybe more info will follow.
I don't know. It seems men are guilty until proven innocent.
As much as I've enjoyed watching all these leftists pols and hollywood liberal men getting stomped on, I can't help worry that there may be some bad repurcussions to all this.
All these accusations all at the same time seems more than a little suspicious..
But, I have no doubt some accusations are true.
Iam sure some are, they need to be weeded through for ones that are serious, and ones that are credible.
I would prefer the legal system take care of it more than the press.
Here's an intreresting take on it all...
https://i2.wp.com/media.globalnews.ca/videostatic/937/823/MichiganNoPenis_848x480_1106939459577.jpg?w=670&quality=70&strip=all[/img]
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LANSING (WWJ) – One candidate's idea to eliminate sexual harassment in the workplace would be to elect women only.
"Who can you trust most not to show you their penis in a professional setting? That would be the candidate who doesn't have one," said Dana Nessel, who is hoping to be nominated as the Democratic candidate for Michigan's Attorney General.
Fed up with allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace, Nessel noted that most of the perpetrators are men, saying sex scandals rarely ever involve women.
I smell a conspiracy and it is fishy.
By these recent surge of allegations about men, it almost seems that the majority of men are creeps except maybe for a very few.
And I am one of the FEW.
Send me a naked pic,now, please.
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By these recent surge of allegations about men, it almost seems that the majority of men are creeps except maybe for a very few.
I have never seen anything quite like this Azhya.
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By these recent surge of allegations about men, it almost seems that the majority of men are creeps except maybe for a very few.
Given the nature of the male gender role, I think every man would become a creep if they were put in particular situations.
While there's no doubt any kind of harassment is wrong, I think the current issue is twofold.
1. The sketchy standards under which men pursue sexual intercourse can range from innocuous flirting to actual rape... and it all flies under the radar as acceptable unless the female in question immediately voices signs of intolerance. Some of these men would just assume women are supposed to be receptive of their advances for a lot of wrong reasons. It had never been right, but like many questionable things, it only begs for a solution when brought to the forefront.
2. Unfortunately, some women send mixed (both intentionally and unintentionally, but the latter can't really be helped) signals which can include dishonest or ingenuine behavior coupled with lying to men in their surroundings, and the only times we hear the negative consequences of this is when things go horribly awry.
There are a lot of women who left their domicile that morning with no intention of enticing a stranger that day, but what can be said of the ones who choose to be manipulative? One can argue that is just to compensate for the lack of social equality, but either way the aggressor is demonized in a society where we're coerced into thinking we need to gain advantage of the rest to be content.
The most effective way to sort this out in quick time would be a standard of transparency relating to what we like and what we don't want to tolerate before proximity and privacy are combined... but I don't see an amicable end to this as long as intimate touching (including hugs and handshakes) are common and sex can be initiated without a legally binding contract.
There is probably a converse issue at hand to be discussed including the aggressions of females, gay men, and possibly other gender roles, but I admittedly don't know about them enough to add. Besides, these are just my sleep deprived opinions, and are subject to bias and error in judgement.
When does rape fly under the radar as acceptable shin?
Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
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Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Well, females are pretty fucking stupid..
Females are always suprised when they find a hard cock in a mans pants.
I can't help wondering if Bill Clinton's getting a complete pass for allegedly- raping, groping, and harassing women didn't set an example for other men that they could get away with it like he did.
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I can't help wondering if Bill Clinton's getting a complete pass for allegedly- raping, groping, and harassing women didn't set an example for other men that they could get away with it like he did.
It set an example for leftist men like Weinstein, Franken and Conyers.
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When does rape fly under the radar as acceptable shin?
In third world countries where women are essentially regarded as property.
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When does rape fly under the radar as acceptable shin?
In third world countries where women are essentially regarded as property.
I thought we were talking about Canada and the USA..
I got confused.
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Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Well, females are pretty fucking stupid..
Females are always suprised when they find a hard cock in a mans pants.
A female brought you into this world...wait...okay, I get it. Some females are stupid just like some men are stupid. Make that most men are stupid.
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Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Well, females are pretty fucking stupid..
Females are always suprised when they find a hard cock in a mans pants.
A female brought you into this world...wait...okay, I get it. Some females are stupid just like some men are stupid. Make that most men are stupid.
Getting yourself pregnant doesnt take intelligence...
More often than not, the female got pregnant because she was stupid.
Most females are stupid... Either that or they are missing a few indians from their canoes.
Females usually lack self examination..
The females who accuse men for sexual harassment have more than likely sexually harassed men.
Life is harder for men and maybe thats why we are more intelligent.. More practical...
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Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Well, females are pretty fucking stupid..
Females are always suprised when they find a hard cock in a mans pants.
A female brought you into this world...wait...okay, I get it. Some females are stupid just like some men are stupid. Make that most men are stupid.
Men are not stupid, boys are. Some boys never become men.
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Auditions take place in hotel rooms??
Hollyweird is a fucked up place.
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Pamela Anderson Blames Harvey Weinstein Victims: 'You Know What You're Getting Into If You Go to a Hotel Room Alone'
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-blames-harvey-weinstein-victims-%E2%80%98you-know-what-you%E2%80%99re-getting-into-if-you-go-to-a-hotel-room-alone%E2%80%99/ar-BBFYYSM?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Well, females are pretty fucking stupid..
Females are always suprised when they find a hard cock in a mans pants.
A female brought you into this world...wait...okay, I get it. Some females are stupid just like some men are stupid. Make that most men are stupid.
Men are not stupid, boys are. Some boys never become men.
That's sad.
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I can't help wondering if Bill Clinton's getting a complete pass for allegedly- raping, groping, and harassing women didn't set an example for other men that they could get away with it like he did.
It set an example for leftist men like Weinstein, Franken and Conyers.
I agree.
It said "if you have power, in any form, you can do what you like in America and get away with it".
It seems that those days are finally over, though.
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I can't help wondering if Bill Clinton's getting a complete pass for allegedly- raping, groping, and harassing women didn't set an example for other men that they could get away with it like he did.
It set an example for leftist men like Weinstein, Franken and Conyers.
I agree.
It said "if you have power, in any form, you can do what you like in America and get away with it".
It seems that those days are finally over, though.
The American left has always had a double standard when one of their own gets caught making unwanted advances towards women. That won't end.
I wonder how Matt Lauer and Charlie Rose are dealing with the shame. The internet says that Lauer's wife left the country. Rose's partner is an American millionaire so I doubt she will leave the country but may leave him. You'd think she would.
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I wonder how Matt Lauer and Charlie Rose are dealing with the shame. The internet says that Lauer's wife left the country. Rose's partner is an American millionaire so I doubt she will leave the country but may leave him. You'd think she would.
It seems Matt Lauer's wife believes there is some truth to the allegations.
I guess she's not standing by her man.
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I guess she's not standing by her man.
It seems that way.
Rose and Amanda Burden were partners since 1993 but it is unclear if they were partners until his shameful fall or they are on and off. They never married.
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Rose and Amanda Burden were partners since 1993 but it is unclear if they were partners until his shameful fall or they are on and off. They never married.
According to Wikipedia, they broke it off in 2006.
Rose and his then partner Burden apparently stopped seeing each other in 2006. Hm, that information was updated only recently.
I assure you that was not on Wikipedia before these allegations because I recall recently reading up on Rose and that was not yet mentioned. I remember thinking, "Wow, they've been partners all these years."
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I assure you that was not on Wikipedia before these allegations because I recall recently reading up on Rose and that was not yet mentioned. I remember thinking, "Wow, they've been partners all these years."
I believe you. I looked him up for the first time like ten minutes ago.
Money blinds us to all evils.
I wonder how these two newsmen will go on. Will other companies hire them? Rose can probably hang it up now and retire but Lauer is still marketable if you don't consider his deplorable behavior.
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I wonder how these two newsmen will go on. Will other companies hire them? Rose can probably hang it up now and retire but Lauer is still marketable if you don't consider his deplorable behavior.
I can't see a major network hiring him..
Maybe he'll do podcasts or some other non traditional venture.
As men, I believe they will still have a future. As bad as things seem today, this is also a society that forgives, conveniently, especially if the subjects are lefties. They will be forgiven after a while and they will be back on some benefactor's payroll.
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this is also a society that forgives, conveniently, especially if the subjects are lefties.
Truest post in the entire thread. :thumbup:
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I guess she's not standing by her man.
She's not like Hillary, who of course, stood by her man because he was her ladder to political power.
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I guess she's not standing by her man.
She's not like Hillary, who of course, stood by her man because he was her ladder to political power.
Shillary would defend Josef Stalin if she believed it would advance her political career.
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I guess she's not standing by her man.
She's not like Hillary, who of course, stood by her man because he was her ladder to political power.
Shillary would defend Josef Stalin if she believed it would advance her political career.
:laugh3:
She would dig him up and make him her running mate if she thought it would help.
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this is also a society that forgives, conveniently, especially if the subjects are lefties.
Truest post in the entire thread. :thumbup:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/04/study-media-gives-partisan-coverage-to-sex-scandals/
the US broadcast news networks spent a total of 6 hours and 40 minutes covering sexual harassment and assault scandals
Allegations against Republican Roy Moore received 4 hours and 8 minutes of coverage.
Allegations against Democratic Sen. Al Franken got 1 hour and 14 minutes.
Allegations against high rankning Democratic rep. John Conyers received only 46 minutes of coverage.
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this is also a society that forgives, conveniently, especially if the subjects are lefties.
Truest post in the entire thread. :thumbup:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/04/study-media-gives-partisan-coverage-to-sex-scandals/
the US broadcast news networks spent a total of 6 hours and 40 minutes covering sexual harassment and assault scandals
Allegations against Republican Roy Moore received 4 hours and 8 minutes of coverage.
Allegations against Democratic Sen. Al Franken got 1 hour and 14 minutes.
Allegations against high rankning Democratic rep. John Conyers received only 46 minutes of coverage.
Sexual assault allegations should not be used as a political weapon..
There have been accusations against people from all over the political spectrum as well as men who are apolitical.
Its so easy for a woman to blame the guy for rape or harassment these days..
They should start giving harsher sentences for lying and making up accusations without any proof...
Like 30years jailtime..
That´ll shut them up.
Women are afraid of being called a slut if they come out with these harassment cases..
Men get blamed for that slutshaming but its the women who call other women sluts..
John Conyers--High ranking democrat and longest member of the house of representatives--who has been accused of harassing many women-- says he is retiring from office
[size=150]Rep. John Conyers announces retirement, endorses son to run for seat[/size]
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-john-conyers-son-john-conyers-iii-to-run-for-congress-seat/
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John Conyers--High ranking democrat and longest member of the house of representatives--who has been accused of harassing many women-- says he is retiring from office
Hmmm
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Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) had sex with 17 year old congressional pages.
The SAME 17 yr old?
What a ladder climber.
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The SAME 17 yr old?
What a ladder climber.
There was more than one boy those old creeps had sex with.
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Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) had sex with 17 year old congressional pages.
:shock:
Greasy pigs.
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Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) had sex with 17 year old congressional pages.
I thought former Rep. Barney Frank(D-Mass) molested a male page.
White knights are the biggest sex offenders..
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White knights are the biggest sex offenders..
very true .
The Chink Gimp SHEN LI / FASH / SHITBRICK / GRIMM are always White knighting each other .
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White knights are the biggest sex offenders..
very true .
The Chink Gimp SHEN LI / FASH / SHITBRICK / GRIMM are always White knighting each other .
Ahhhh, feeling left out.
[size=150]Democrats line up to call for Al Franken's resignation after latest sexual misconduct allegation[/size]
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/another-woman-accuses-al-franken-of-sex-misconduct-senator-denies-it.html
What's their angle? I think they are doing to this so they dont look like complete hypocrites going after Roy Moore and Trump. They have little to lose as the democrat governor of Minnesota can fill the senate seat with anyone he wants.
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I have no doubt the reasons have to do with what is good politically..
In both American parties and in Canadian politics too.
Some men can be fucking pigs too. A female flagger I worked with recently told me she was disturbed by the actions and comments of one employee that I do not know well.
I don't believe her to be lying, and if true, his shit went over the top. I am not a lawyer, and suggested to her to find another job before filing a formal complaint, which in my opinion, she may be justified in doing so, if what I hear is true. Man in question is married also...
I know men can be fucking pigs. I never was one... perhaps that is part of my problem... women have often looked at me as the "nice guy friend," which gets you nowhere!
It is what it is!
Then again, I'm pretty fucking choosy also, so no fat welfare momma is going to be entering my lifestyle.
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Al Franken did resign from the senate today.
There's no way the Dementocraps would have pressured him into doing that if Roy Moore was not on the ballot. This is a win win for the dems. They keep the seat and look like they are taking the moral high road.
I think its getting a bit worrying when a man loses his job over improprieties as opposed to illegalities.
Franken, and others who behave in an inappropriate way that does not constitute a crime AT THE TIME OF THE ACT, should be offered an opportunity to make a genuine apology to those they've offended, and if they accept the apology, he gets on with his life. Rapes and assaults are not included in that. We need to remember that some of these faux pas occurred when such behaviour was regarded more as a nuisance than a crime.
Some compassion needs to be applied.
I must live in a bubble..
No lady I know has ever confided in me that she has been sexually harassed.
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I must live in a bubble..
No lady I know has ever confided in me that she has been sexually harassed.
If there is women and men working in the same place, there is gonna be lewd jokes and stuff like that..
Both men and women do it.
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I must live in a bubble..
No lady I know has ever confided in me that she has been sexually harassed.
If there is women and men working in the same place, there is gonna be lewd jokes and stuff like that..
Both men and women do it.
I know that.
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I must live in a bubble..
No lady I know has ever confided in me that she has been sexually harassed.
If there is women and men working in the same place, there is gonna be lewd jokes and stuff like that..
Both men and women do it.
I know that.
I think its kinda hypocritical to start moaning about sexual harassment towards females..
I guess its too much to ask for feminists to realize what their "sisters" are doing before attacking the whole male gender..
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Al Franken did resign from the senate today.
There's no way the Dementocraps would have pressured him into doing that if Roy Moore was not on the ballot. This is a win win for the dems. They keep the seat and look like they are taking the moral high road.
As we suspected
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/with-al-franken-out-democrats-hope-to-make-republicans-answer-for-roy-moore-and-donald-trump/article/2642932
its not because they care about women, its not because they want to rid their party of bad guys. Nope, not at all, its so they can go after their enemies.
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Al Franken did resign from the senate today.
There's no way the Dementocraps would have pressured him into doing that if Roy Moore was not on the ballot. This is a win win for the dems. They keep the seat and look like they are taking the moral high road.
As we suspected
The Dems win no matter what.
Well, maybe not. A little unexpected wrinkle in part of their plan
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/bombshell-roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-yearbook/
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Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.
Franken used his resignation speech for partisan shots. I knew he would.
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Well, maybe not. A little unexpected wrinkle in part of their plan
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/bombshell-roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-yearbook/
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Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.
Okay, without knowing the details of the allegations against Moore, is this an admission she lied about the accusations against Moore?
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Well, maybe not. A little unexpected wrinkle in part of their plan
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/bombshell-roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-yearbook/
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Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.
Okay, without knowing the details of the allegations against Moore, is this an admission she lied about the accusations against Moore?
No, she is just saying part of the yearbook message he wrote to her and signed is her writing. (the bottom two lines, date and location--see link below) she did not say this at an earlier press conference.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/us/alabama-moore-nelson-allred.html
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Some men can be fucking pigs too. A female flagger I worked with recently told me she was disturbed by the actions and comments of one employee that I do not know well.
I don't believe her to be lying, and if true, his shit went over the top. I am not a lawyer, and suggested to her to find another job before filing a formal complaint, which in my opinion, she may be justified in doing so, if what I hear is true. Man in question is married also...
I know men can be fucking pigs. I never was one... perhaps that is part of my problem... women have often looked at me as the "nice guy friend," which gets you nowhere!
It is what it is!
Then again, I'm pretty fucking choosy also, so no fat welfare momma is going to be entering my lifestyle.
What the hell is this male chauvinist P I G doing in my thread?!
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Some men can be fucking pigs too. A female flagger I worked with recently told me she was disturbed by the actions and comments of one employee that I do not know well.
I don't believe her to be lying, and if true, his shit went over the top. I am not a lawyer, and suggested to her to find another job before filing a formal complaint, which in my opinion, she may be justified in doing so, if what I hear is true. Man in question is married also...
I know men can be fucking pigs. I never was one... perhaps that is part of my problem... women have often looked at me as the "nice guy friend," which gets you nowhere!
It is what it is!
Then again, I'm pretty fucking choosy also, so no fat welfare momma is going to be entering my lifestyle.
What the hell is this male chauvinist P I G doing in my thread?!
I know Azhya..
How have you been?
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Some men can be fucking pigs too. A female flagger I worked with recently told me she was disturbed by the actions and comments of one employee that I do not know well.
I don't believe her to be lying, and if true, his shit went over the top. I am not a lawyer, and suggested to her to find another job before filing a formal complaint, which in my opinion, she may be justified in doing so, if what I hear is true. Man in question is married also...
I know men can be fucking pigs. I never was one... perhaps that is part of my problem... women have often looked at me as the "nice guy friend," which gets you nowhere!
It is what it is!
Then again, I'm pretty fucking choosy also, so no fat welfare momma is going to be entering my lifestyle.
What the hell is this male chauvinist P I G doing in my thread?!
Crying in his beer like the pathetic white homo he is.
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What the hell is this male chauvinist P I G doing in my thread?!
What the hell is wrong with you?
You whigged out on the other forum also. THAT is why I think you have a mental illness, and you most likely do.
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I know Azhya..
Nothing worse than Mods or Admin sucking up to certain posters... especially mentally ill posters like her.
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I know Azhya..
Nothing worse than Mods or Admin sucking up to certain posters... especially mentally ill posters like her.
Some might say there's nothing worse than blaming others for one's own shortcomings.
She went fucking nuts some time ago. She completely whigged out on the other forum (nothing to do with me), and hasn't been the same since.
If we can rule out drugs and alcohol, mental illness is the only thing left.
Pppfffttt. Lame try. You are the mentally deranged idiot here. I hate pigs like you who are delusional and think they are not pigs but they are! Pig!
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I know Azhya..
How have you been?
Great, Fash. I hope all's well with you too. Busy busy busy.
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I know Azhya..
How have you been?
Great, Fash. I hope all's well with you too. Busy busy busy.
I'm always busy this time of year..
Next Friday, is my last day of work until January 2.
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[size=150]President's tweet about Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand fuels growing call for him to resign--Elizabeth Warren says its misogynist
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Here's the tweet
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940567812053053441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F12%2F12%2Ftrump-sexist-tweet-sen-gillibrand-sparks-mini-rebellion-among-women-senators%2F944337001%2F
Misogynist? Grounds for demanding Trumps resignation? Ha ha ha, yeah right!
That's all the democrat party has anymore, they have nothing to offer the voters, so they yell racism and sexism at everything and everyone instead.
Distractions, and no policy. That's today's Democratic party.
Why do women wear really open top, slutty makeup and tight bottom to a workplace?
Thats not fashionable and good looking clothing... Thats just hot clothing.
Why do women want to be HOT at the workplace?
When I was just a electrician apprentice, the senior electrician warned me about working in a female dominant workplaces.. Like in offices..
The sexual harassment workmen experience is unprecedented.
You are the center of all the attention when you go to install something in an office...
Bullocks. I don't look at the workmen. I like to work quietly, no distractions, and I don't appreciate visitors unless I'm expecting them.
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Bullocks. I don't look at the workmen. I like to work quietly, no distractions, and I don't appreciate visitors unless I'm expecting them.
Odinson wouldn't know how people dress at work because he doesn't work.
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Bullocks. I don't look at the workmen. I like to work quietly, no distractions, and I don't appreciate visitors unless I'm expecting them.
And I dont squeeze random females asses.. Nor blackmail them to have sex at the workplace... Still happens..
Its not bollocks.. Its well known but we dont play victims because its not that much of a nuisance.
The lewd comments happen constantly..
Female workers bending over ass up "to show you" where they want the buttons and switches to go.. Even though we can see the place standing up..
The other females just giggling while watching that situation... Thats how you know what is the true purpose behind that show..
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Bullocks. I don't look at the workmen. I like to work quietly, no distractions, and I don't appreciate visitors unless I'm expecting them.
Odinson wouldn't know how people dress at work because he doesn't work.
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Bullocks. I don't look at the workmen. I like to work quietly, no distractions, and I don't appreciate visitors unless I'm expecting them.
Odinson wouldn't know how people dress at work because he doesn't work.
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You know how it goes..
Women love soldiers, policemen, construction workers, drill-rig workmen etc.. Manly men.
If you are reasonably good looking.. The perv stuff just starts flying out of their mouth.
Its not a problem.. Its pretty funny..
I´m just putting things into perspective here.. Women are not exactly pure angels and victims all the time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/12/20/streep_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqHKIqxm3Wlrin8zaYxY4CP2vsO71kt4eqKYuwq4tfa7o.jpg?imwidth=450[/img]
Nicely done :thumbup: Now we just need one of Hillary and Bill to go with it. Or maybe that should be THEY KNEW and include the whole democrat party???
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/12/20/streep_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqHKIqxm3Wlrin8zaYxY4CP2vsO71kt4eqKYuwq4tfa7o.jpg?imwidth=450[/img]
Nicely done :thumbup: Now we just need one of Hillary and Bill to go with it. Or maybe that should be THEY KNEW and include the whole democrat party???
If the allegations against Harvey Weinstein are true, a lot of people were protecting him.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/12/20/streep_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqHKIqxm3Wlrin8zaYxY4CP2vsO71kt4eqKYuwq4tfa7o.jpg?imwidth=450[/img]
Nicely done :thumbup: Now we just need one of Hillary and Bill to go with it. Or maybe that should be THEY KNEW and include the whole democrat party???
If the allegations against Harvey Weinstein are true, a lot of people were protecting him.
He's a rich, successful Jew heavily involved with the Hollyweird lot. Are you really surprised that he's protected?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/12/20/streep_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqHKIqxm3Wlrin8zaYxY4CP2vsO71kt4eqKYuwq4tfa7o.jpg?imwidth=450[/img]
Nicely done :thumbup: Now we just need one of Hillary and Bill to go with it. Or maybe that should be THEY KNEW and include the whole democrat party???
If the allegations against Harvey Weinstein are true, a lot of people were protecting him.
He's a rich, successful Jew heavily involved with the Hollyweird lot. Are you really surprised that he's protected?
No, I'm not surprised Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Meryl Streep protect him..
Hollywood is a weird place.
How many actresses gave him ass willingly...
Give head to get ahead.
If Weinstein says that she can get the part in a movie if she sucks his dick, its not harassment..
Its his business and he can do and ask whatever the fuck he wants.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/12/20/streep_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqHKIqxm3Wlrin8zaYxY4CP2vsO71kt4eqKYuwq4tfa7o.jpg?imwidth=450[/img]
Nicely done :thumbup: Now we just need one of Hillary and Bill to go with it. Or maybe that should be THEY KNEW and include the whole democrat party???
The Democrat power broker base is crawling with sexual predators.
Hollywood and politics are fuckin whack. Im sure there are more severely disgusting things hidden from the public that these sick fucks are involved in....stuff so sick and disturbing and unimaginable.
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Hollywood and politics are fuckin whack. Im sure there are more severely disgusting things hidden from the public that these sick fucks are involved in....stuff so sick and disturbing and unimaginable.
No doubt the creepiness the public knows about Hollywood has only scratched the surface of that giant pus filled boil.
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Hollywood and politics are fuckin whack. Im sure there are more severely disgusting things hidden from the public that these sick fucks are involved in....stuff so sick and disturbing and unimaginable.
No doubt the creepiness the public knows about Hollywood has only scratched the surface of that giant pus filled boil.
Sadly its true. Its disgusting what some will do just to feel powerful and in control. Bunch of cowards really. Cant really idolize anyone anynore cause you truely dont know anyone.
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Hollywood and politics are fuckin whack. Im sure there are more severely disgusting things hidden from the public that these sick fucks are involved in....stuff so sick and disturbing and unimaginable.
No doubt the creepiness the public knows about Hollywood has only scratched the surface of that giant pus filled boil.
Sadly its true. Its disgusting what some will do just to feel powerful and in control. Bunch of cowards really. Cant really idolize anyone anynore cause you truely dont know anyone.
My husband and I have always discouraged our children from having celebrities as role models.
The right of first night at the workplace.
Whenever a common female employee is married, her employer has sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding.
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Hollywood and politics are fuckin whack. Im sure there are more severely disgusting things hidden from the public that these sick fucks are involved in....stuff so sick and disturbing and unimaginable.
No doubt the creepiness the public knows about Hollywood has only scratched the surface of that giant pus filled boil.
Sadly its true. Its disgusting what some will do just to feel powerful and in control. Bunch of cowards really. Cant really idolize anyone anynore cause you truely dont know anyone.
My husband and I have always discouraged our children from having celebrities as role models.
Good policy.
I'm all for men being held accountabvle for true harassment, groping etc
But here is the opposite side. Its should not turn into a witch hunt where all are deemed guilty even when proved innocent.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/12/lawsuit-by-expelled-oberlin-male-student-sexual-assault-hearing-process-rigged-100-conviction-rate/
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I'm all for men being held accountabvle for true harassment, groping etc
But here is the opposite side. Its should not turn into a witch hunt where all are deemed guilty even when proved innocent.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/12/lawsuit-by-expelled-oberlin-male-student-sexual-assault-hearing-process-rigged-100-conviction-rate/
Universities are not the best places to receive a fair hearing.
I dont back off if a woman says no..
I assume she is playing games with me and usually they are.
I like it when women tease me.. Keeps me guessing whether we are going to have sex or not...
I just get so horny when its not certain that I´m getting laid.
Cosby found guilty....
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/arts/television/bill-cosby-guilty-retrial.html

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Cosby found guilty....
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/arts/television/bill-cosby-guilty-retrial.html

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Good.
It sickens me that although these cretins get gaol time, their crap still gets air time. If they are found guilty, all of their entertainment assets should be banned. No re-runs. All albums withdrawn from sale. They should cease to exist on mass media. Ditto creeps like Gary Glitter, Harvey Weinstein, Mike Tyson, Rolf Harris.
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It sickens me that although these cretins get gaol time, their crap still gets air time. If they are found guilty, all of their entertainment assets should be banned. No re-runs. All albums withdrawn from sale. They should cease to exist on mass media. Ditto creeps like Gary Glitter, Harvey Weinstein, Mike Tyson, Rolf Harris.
But, if Bill Cosby spends the rest of life in prison, why would that matter?
He can't spend any of it.
But it will send a message to all predators; society will shun you if you prey on people.
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But it will send a message to all predators; society will shun you if you prey on people.
I don't disagree with your suggestion Bricktop.
They used their fame to intimidate, co-erce, persuade or manipulate.
Taking that fame away from them is a reasonable response.
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They used their fame to intimidate, co-erce, persuade or manipulate.
Taking that fame away from them is a reasonable response.
Even if Bill Cosby doesn't go to jail, there will be no paid appearances anywhere.
He's finished. But he will have enough wealth to survive...unless he spends the rest of his life in gaol, then his money is worthless.
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He's finished. But he will have enough wealth to survive...unless he spends the rest of his life in gaol, then his money is worthless.
He's out right now.
Not for long.
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Not for long.
He was convicted of serious crimes.....he belongs in jail.
Not been following closely, but I suspect that he's out until sentencing
That said, appeals could keep him out for some time depending on what the appeal judge rules
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Not been following closely, but I suspect that he's out until sentencing
That said, appeals could keep him out for some time depending on what the appeal judge rules
And he has the money to hire the best lawyers to do that.
Exactly.
If Cosby didn't have so much money, he would have been in the can long ago.
Who wants to join me in starting a crowdfunding for old Bill.
Bill Cosby was once worth $400 million. Now he's facing financial ruin
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/bill-cosby-was-once-worth-dollar400-million-now-hes-facing-financial-ruin/ar-AAwrSHq?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
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Who wants to join me in starting a crowdfunding for old Bill.
Bill Cosby was once worth $400 million. Now he's facing financial ruin
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/bill-cosby-was-once-worth-dollar400-million-now-hes-facing-financial-ruin/ar-AAwrSHq?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
I hope he is behind bars soon.
Yes he will be but then he'll be out just like OJ.
OJ was found not guilty in one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in human history.
Cosby was convicted.
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OJ was found not guilty in one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in human history.
Cosby was convicted.
And when OJ did go to jail it was for a longer time than most people would serve for the same crime.
It's a good thing OJ is free again. He can now get back to searching for 'the real killer.' In between golf swings, of course...
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It's a good thing OJ is free again. He can now get back to searching for the 'real killer.' In between golf swings, of course...
I'm sure OJ will find out who killed his wife and her lover any day now.
It would be astounding if he couldn't. Everyone else knows who killed them.
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It would be astounding if he couldn't. Everyone else knows who killed them.
OJ will get to the bottom of it.
:laugh:
He IS the bottom of it.
He should be in an unmarked grave behind some prison.
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He IS the bottom of it.
He should be in an unmarked grave behind some prison.
As I understand California law, he cannot be charged again for the murders of his ex wife and Ron Goldman, even if a video surfaced of OJ killing them.
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He IS the bottom of it.
He should be in an unmarked grave behind some prison.
As I understand California law, he cannot be charged again for the murders of his ex wife and Ron Goldman, even if a video surfaced of OJ killing them.
You are correct.
Same all over the former British colonies. No double dipping by the Prosecution. Otherwise they would keep prosecuting until a more sympathetic court will convict.
However, here in Oz, the Government is implementing changes to remove the double jeopardy protection. I believe that if new evidence emerges they can take that to a Supreme Court and petition for a fresh prosecution to be instigated.