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Title: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
...will be my new rooty tooty point and shootie, it has been decided.



Dirty Harry .44 Mag hand-cannon may be "cool," but realistically this .38/.357 is what a guy needs in a revolver, in my opinion, for real world target/range use.  K frame is mid-sized, and probably the best all-around size for .357 Mag wheel-gun...  wouldn't want to shoot many .357 Mag rounds out of a much smaller gun.



The grips are the only thing I may change out...  Since I'm old school, I may swap out the grips for wooden ones, for the old school look.



Sadly, my local gun store is currently out of stock of this particular model, but they have another batch ordered!  Just depends how quickly Smith & Wesson can ship the order.



Not sure about the two-piece barrel, as some claim it's to reduce cost...  Others claim that it does improve accuracy...  Probably a bit of truth to both.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:12:23 PM
Think I may sell my M1 Carbine.  I don't have that much interest in Canadian/US firearms from WWII or Vietnam, but I know somebody who just might!



Gonna give him a call, and see if I can get a few hun for it (they're not worth that much), to subsidize pistola purchase.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
Short barrel?



I would still go with a 6" barrel at least.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
The 4.25" version!  Any barrel shorter than that is difficult, if almost impossible, for the average Canadian to own.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:31:47 PM
I had a Ruger GP100 in the past, .357 with a 6" barrel...  It's kind of 'bulky' with that extra length, but otherwise an awesome gun!  Almost sorry I sold it!



I can see long, heavy barrels being a necessity on .44 Magnums and up, but .38/.357 Mags shouldn't be too painful with a smaller gun like the Model 66.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2017, 10:35:09 PM
I agree! I honestly would go 6". Trust me! My .44 is 5" and no where near as accurate as my .357 6". Think of it more like a rifle lol. Rifles are pretty accurate and the longer the pistol barrel the better I 've learned.



Well I do hope it shoots good for ya if you do go the shorter lenth route  ac_drinks



Maybe try one out at a range first? Some places offer that.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
It might be tough to find some range time around here with that particular model, so I can go by online reviews.



The Model 19/66 has been around for longer than I thought!  That in itself must count for something!
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2017, 10:46:23 PM
True true.



My .357 had pearl handles put on it by my grandfather. Still have the wooden ones though. I like the look of the wood, but cant bare myself to remove the pearl cause of grandad lol.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 10:47:44 PM
That's the one thing I may change out...  May go for old-school checkered wood, but some pearls look nice also, if chosen correctly!
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2017, 11:10:20 PM
I'll post a pic of mine one day soon. My grandad even made a custom box for it. Found the belt and holster for it too. Has the slots for bullets on the belt. Feels real westerny lol.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
Nice!  Would like to see it.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 21, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
I look forward to my rooty shooty...
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 22, 2017, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: "Angry White Male"Think I may sell my M1 Carbine.  I don't have that much interest in Canadian/US firearms from WWII or Vietnam, but I know somebody who just might!



Gonna give him a call, and see if I can get a few hun for it (they're not worth that much), to subsidize pistola purchase.

If it is a true WWII issue/surplus may want to do a little research. Worth a little more than a replica.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Angry White Male"Think I may sell my M1 Carbine.  I don't have that much interest in Canadian/US firearms from WWII or Vietnam, but I know somebody who just might!



Gonna give him a call, and see if I can get a few hun for it (they're not worth that much), to subsidize pistola purchase.

If it is a true WWII issue/surplus may want to do a little research. Worth a little more than a replica.

Do you collect rifles  kiebers?
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 22, 2017, 08:28:36 PM
I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Frood on December 22, 2017, 08:40:58 PM
If they're good quality and regularly cleaned and oiled, Fash.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 22, 2017, 08:50:47 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Odinson on December 22, 2017, 09:03:02 PM
Depends on the use..



The parts do get worn down.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 09:27:05 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

They must be worth a bit?
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 22, 2017, 09:42:04 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

They must be worth a bit?

Not what you would think. Less than a grand apiece. The more modern ones carry a higher value overall.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Odinson on December 22, 2017, 09:47:03 PM
Kiebers has been watching pawnstars..
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 22, 2017, 10:02:44 PM
Nah, I have checked pricing off and on over the years.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 22, 2017, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"If it is a true WWII issue/surplus may want to do a little research. Worth a little more than a replica.

Plainfield, so sadly not worth all that much...
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 22, 2017, 10:28:13 PM
The Carbine had little sentimental value to me, and .30 Carbine rounds aren't exactly cheap for what you get, due to lack of demand.



It's not something I would ever spend much time at the range with, so not sorry I sold it to someone that has a little more interest in that particular type of firearm than I...



I'm more of a .22 semi-auto rifle guy for bush plinking (Marlin Model 60 I use for this), and handgun guy at the range.  Have a 12 Gauge if I ever need heavy hitting power for the bush, but that's not very often.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 23, 2017, 12:09:35 AM
I also want a new Colt Model 70 Government, blued (essentially a 1911 that we ALL know, for all intents and purposes).



My store is out of these also, but I'm sure another shipment will arrive.  They have other 'variations' of Colt 1911's in stock, but I want EXACTLY what I want...





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Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

Have they been in your family that long Kiebs?
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 23, 2017, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Have they been in your family that long Kiebs?

It's clear then that Kiefers owes something BIG TIME to the Negroes.



He must sell them, and give the cash to local Negroes.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 23, 2017, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

Have they been in your family that long Kiebs?

No, my dad got them in the 50's. Couple of muzzle loaders from the mid 1800's and a shot gun from 1875.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 12:31:25 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

Have they been in your family that long Kiebs?

No, my dad got them in the 50's. Couple of muzzle loaders from the mid 1800's and a shot gun from 1875.

I don't know much about guns, but I bet they make great convo pieces when you have guests.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: kiebers on December 23, 2017, 12:34:29 AM
I never display them. No one needs to know what I have. In this day and age you have to be careful. I may have a trusted friend over and we will talk about them. The only thing I have displayed is my grandfathers sling shot. Its in a shadowbox over the fire place.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 23, 2017, 12:36:37 AM
I'm with Kiebers...  It's not something that you advertise to every house guest, depending on your situation.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 12:46:27 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"I never display them. No one needs to know what I have. In this day and age you have to be careful. I may have a trusted friend over and we will talk about them. The only thing I have displayed is my grandfathers sling shot. Its in a shadowbox over the fire place.

Makes sense.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 23, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
I have no kids, and very few visitors.  I can have a few guns around (legally kept, of course)...



It wouldn't matter how I kept them, to be honest...  I'm the only one that'll do any shooting.



Others have children, and this can lead to trouble.  Or a wife.  Or trashy friends.  Or...
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Angry White Male on December 23, 2017, 01:01:14 AM
Actually, case law in Canada led to a stay of proceedings against a guy, that was found with a loaded pistol under his mattress.



Having a loaded pistol under your mattress is a No-No in Canada.



HOWEVER, the Judge had found that storage laws in Canada were scripted with the thought that people have family and friends over regularly, and as such a firearm should be safely secured.  THAT was the intention of these laws to begin with.



Dude in question was a shut-in.  He had NO visitors.  NO children.  Nobody.



Hence, the judge ruled that the intent of the storage laws did not apply to him, since the intent of the laws was not applicable to him in the first place.



CASE LAW.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Frood on December 23, 2017, 01:21:07 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"Depends on the use..



The parts do get worn down.


I know of someone who while visiting her grandparents at the homestead started digging in the garden. She was 5 or 6 at the time.



She dug deeper then they ever had and dragged out an original 44-40 from the 19th century. The stock was perished but they brought it to a gunsmith who took it apart and restored it back to firing and redid the wood.



They gave it to her on her 13th birthday and she dropped a 6 point buck with it the next year.



Not sure if he was able to save the barrel or he had to make a new one though.



Point is, some things are made so well that they can buried in the earth and brought back to life with a little tlc.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Odinson on December 23, 2017, 06:18:10 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"Nah, I have checked pricing off and on over the years.




Yeah, one would think they get more valuable with age but they dont..
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Odinson on December 23, 2017, 07:24:03 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Odinson"Depends on the use..



The parts do get worn down.


I know of someone who while visiting her grandparents at the homestead started digging in the garden. She was 5 or 6 at the time.



She dug deeper then they ever had and dragged out an original 44-40 from the 19th century. The stock was perished but they brought it to a gunsmith who took it apart and restored it back to firing and redid the wood.



They gave it to her on her 13th birthday and she dropped a 6 point buck with it the next year.



Not sure if he was able to save the barrel or he had to make a new one though.



Point is, some things are made so well that they can buried in the earth and brought back to life with a little tlc.


Its not about being well-made...



Depending on the soil, burying items into the ground preserves them...



No air can get to the gun if its buried in a swamp for example..



If you pull stuff out of a swamp, they are almost in mint condition.
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 11:21:52 AM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "kiebers"I have a collection that I grew up with that I inherited. Spent a lot of hours on the range when I was young. We did all our own loading. Mainly sporting rifles and shotguns. The M1 is the only military weapon I own and I do not have a high capacity magazine like the newer firearms are using. It's been 40 years or more since I actually purchased a firearm.

This may seem like a dumb question, but it seems that firearms last forever without breaking down?

Yep...I have a few that range 100-150 years old and still function fine.

Have they been in your family that long Kiebs?

No, my dad got them in the 50's. Couple of muzzle loaders from the mid 1800's and a shot gun from 1875.

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: OK, Smith & Wesson Model 66...
Post by: Frood on December 23, 2017, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Odinson"Depends on the use..



The parts do get worn down.


I know of someone who while visiting her grandparents at the homestead started digging in the garden. She was 5 or 6 at the time.



She dug deeper then they ever had and dragged out an original 44-40 from the 19th century. The stock was perished but they brought it to a gunsmith who took it apart and restored it back to firing and redid the wood.



They gave it to her on her 13th birthday and she dropped a 6 point buck with it the next year.



Not sure if he was able to save the barrel or he had to make a new one though.



Point is, some things are made so well that they can buried in the earth and brought back to life with a little tlc.


Its not about being well-made...



Depending on the soil, burying items into the ground preserves them...



No air can get to the gun if its buried in a swamp for example..



If you pull stuff out of a swamp, they are almost in mint condition.


No, Odi, just no.



Most alloys suffer in swamps, bodies of water, or buried in moisture.
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