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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: shin on December 22, 2017, 06:52:45 AM

Title: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 22, 2017, 06:52:45 AM
Do you believe every problem has at least one feasible solution?



Is innovation always optimal when it's systematic?



When it comes to "thinking outside of the box", when is creativity a bad thing?





This should probably be an essay. :laugh:
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Frood on December 22, 2017, 08:39:08 AM
Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: "shin"Do you believe every problem has at least one feasible solution?



Is innovation always optimal when it's systematic?



When it comes to "thinking outside of the box", when is creativity a bad thing?





This should probably be an essay. :laugh:

Innovations have certainly made our lives easier..



But, I'm some what cynical about the latest innovations that are more just marketing gimmicks like anything released by Apple..



But, to answer your question we know the answer to many problems, but instead of correcting it, we ignore it and choose a futile path that fixes nothing.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, to answer your question we know the answer to many problems, but instead of correcting it, we ignore it and choose a futile path that fixes nothing.

I think I know where this is leading.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, to answer your question we know the answer to many problems, but instead of correcting it, we ignore it and choose a futile path that fixes nothing.

I think I know where this is leading.

I'm sure you do Seoul..



Most social problems would not exist if children were raised in a loving, stable, two parent home..



That is the real privilege.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.

I can't argue with that.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2017, 07:20:31 PM
Well, that's a mind bender over breakfast....
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2017, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: "shin"Do you believe every problem has at least one feasible solution?



Is innovation always optimal when it's systematic?



When it comes to "thinking outside of the box", when is creativity a bad thing?





This should probably be an essay. :laugh:


If a circumstance (the problem) has no solution, then it is not "a problem".



Death, for example, is not a problem. Its essential for the continuation of the species. We THINK its a problem because we want to live forever, but no species can evolve without death.



Flying to Mars may or may not be a problem. However, because we feel an impulsion to visit other planets, it becomes one and demands a feasible solution. Getting there is around 10% of the problem. Surviving and returning and much larger conundrums.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
Improvements are good. Efficiencies can be if it doesn't mean putting people out or work. Thinking outside the box is sometimes necessary.It's obviously not ideal when it involves changing something that works.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 23, 2017, 06:48:36 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "shin"Do you believe every problem has at least one feasible solution?



Is innovation always optimal when it's systematic?



When it comes to "thinking outside of the box", when is creativity a bad thing?





This should probably be an essay. :laugh:


If a circumstance (the problem) has no solution, then it is not "a problem".



Death, for example, is not a problem. Its essential for the continuation of the species. We THINK its a problem because we want to live forever, but no species can evolve without death.



Flying to Mars may or may not be a problem. However, because we feel an impulsion to visit other planets, it becomes one and demands a feasible solution. Getting there is around 10% of the problem. Surviving and returning and much larger conundrums.


This is a great answer.



Might I add the semantics involved in defining a would-be problem sometimes creates a greater void between the solution and what seems like impossible circumstance.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 23, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
But, to answer your question we know the answer to many problems, but instead of correcting it, we ignore it and choose a futile path that fixes nothing.

I think I know where this is leading.

I'm sure you do Seoul..



Most social problems would not exist if children were raised in a loving, stable, two parent home..



That is the real privilege.


Sometimes I think a selection of social problems would cease to exist with better quality education that isn't so restricted across social groups, but as generations pass some of these problems would resurface when the lessons are forgotten.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 23, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.


What would be an example of a problem designed to not have a solution?
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: "shin"
Sometimes I think a selection of social problems would cease to exist with better quality education that isn't so restricted across social groups, but as generations pass some of these problems would resurface when the lessons are forgotten.

Changes in public education are good in some areas, but they won't fix the problem that students that don't come from stable, loving two parent families underachieve.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 23, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.


What would be an example of a problem designed to not have a solution?

I can think of several, but let's start with inequality. It's an often repeated buzzword of the political left. It is not even a real problem, so  finding a solution is stupid. Poverty on the other hand is a problem for which tangible solutions do exist.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Frood on December 23, 2017, 06:10:46 PM
I don't consider poverty a problem either.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Odinson on December 23, 2017, 06:17:46 PM
Quote from: "shin"Do you believe every problem has at least one feasible solution?



Is innovation always optimal when it's systematic?



When it comes to "thinking outside of the box", when is creativity a bad thing?





This should probably be an essay. :laugh:


Every problem has a solution..
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 26, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.


What would be an example of a problem designed to not have a solution?

I can think of several, but let's start with inequality. It's an often repeated buzzword of the political left. It is not even a real problem, so  finding a solution is stupid. Poverty on the other hand is a problem for which tangible solutions do exist.


I think inequality is a closer state of being than even distribution of resources. It would be great if we all had a surplus of money, education, and opportunity, but somewhere down the line the scales would return to a state of imbalance.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Frood on December 26, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Inequality is only a problem if there aren't opportunities to try for improvement.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2017, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.


What would be an example of a problem designed to not have a solution?

I can think of several, but let's start with inequality. It's an often repeated buzzword of the political left. It is not even a real problem, so  finding a solution is stupid. Poverty on the other hand is a problem for which tangible solutions do exist.


I think inequality is a closer state of being than even distribution of resources. It would be great if we all had a surplus of money, education, and opportunity, but somewhere down the line the scales would return to a state of imbalance.

I don't what you mean in the  first sentence. But, I agree that it is not a something that the state could ever change.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Bricktop on December 26, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Humans default to a pyramid structure both politically and economically by default. Power without wealth is no power at all.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2017, 05:46:29 PM
Equality is unnatural.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: Thiel on December 27, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
Equality is a pipe dream. Marxist societies were not equal.
Title: Re: Problem solving, innovation, and creativity
Post by: shin on December 28, 2017, 08:11:31 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "shin"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Some problems aren't designed to be solved. Progressives struggle with that and end up creating more problems which needn't be.


What would be an example of a problem designed to not have a solution?

I can think of several, but let's start with inequality. It's an often repeated buzzword of the political left. It is not even a real problem, so  finding a solution is stupid. Poverty on the other hand is a problem for which tangible solutions do exist.


I think inequality is a closer state of being than even distribution of resources. It would be great if we all had a surplus of money, education, and opportunity, but somewhere down the line the scales would return to a state of imbalance.

I don't what you mean in the  first sentence. But, I agree that it is not a something that the state could ever change.


I just meant that when a group of people have something that can be shared, it isn't likely to be shared equally among them over time.