I see it more as she turns into a young lady(she's sixteen)..
I don't mean just the physical as it's obvious that she is not pure East Asian, her father's DNA came through..
She has a Western independent streak..
I obeyed my parents without question and sought their guidance and wisdom..
My daughter questions me and has her own plans for her own future..
My husband thinks it's natural, but he is a Dutch Canadian..
It's just so different to the way my brother and I were raised in Taiwanese immigrant family.
You would have been more independent if you grew up in west..
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I shouldn't really be surprised..
She's a beautiful young lady and both the physical and cultural Caucasian traits have come out in her.
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I shouldn't really be surprised..
She's a beautiful young lady and both the physical and cultural Caucasian traits have come out in her.
You grew up in Taiwan?
Mixed caucasian and asian women look good..
Aide from the cultural issues--
Other than from 0 to 3, the teenage years can be the toughest for any parent, I have a 19 yo and a 14 yo and like most teenagers they want their independence, and their own identities, its fine most of the time, but it can lead to friction at times too.
there may even be some natural slection involved. no matter how much kids like their parents they need to seperate themselves from being dependent on them, so they can go out and succeed in the world.
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Other than from 0 to 3, the teenage years can be the toughest for any parent, I have a 19 yo and a 14 yo and like most teenagers they want their independence, and their own identities, its fine most of the time, but it can lead to friction at times too.
there may even be some natural slection involved. no matter how much kids like their parents they need to seperate themselves from being dependent on them, so they can go out and succeed in the world.
I didn't want my independence when I was sixteen Wazzzup..
I didn't need to separate myself from being dependent on my parents..
I sought their direction..
It's seems this is more cultural than a natural progression.
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I don't mean just the physical as it's obvious that she is not pure East Asian, her father's DNA came through..
She has a Western independent streak..
I obeyed my parents without question and sought their guidance and wisdom..
My daughter questions me and has her own plans for her own future..
My husband thinks it's natural, but he is a Dutch Canadian..
It's just so different to the way my brother and I were raised in Taiwanese immigrant family.
You should speak with my eldest sister. She is married to a Caucasian and has the same issues with her kids.
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Other than from 0 to 3, the teenage years can be the toughest for any parent, I have a 19 yo and a 14 yo and like most teenagers they want their independence, and their own identities, its fine most of the time, but it can lead to friction at times too.
there may even be some natural slection involved. no matter how much kids like their parents they need to seperate themselves from being dependent on them, so they can go out and succeed in the world.
I didn't want my independence when I was sixteen Wazzzup..
I didn't need to separate myself from being dependent on my parents..
I sought their direction..
It's seems this is more cultural than a natural progression.
Independence is all you think about when you're starting out as a teenager. Depending on your parents isn't considered healthy even by many parents.
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Other than from 0 to 3, the teenage years can be the toughest for any parent, I have a 19 yo and a 14 yo and like most teenagers they want their independence, and their own identities, its fine most of the time, but it can lead to friction at times too.
there may even be some natural slection involved. no matter how much kids like their parents they need to seperate themselves from being dependent on them, so they can go out and succeed in the world.
I didn't want my independence when I was sixteen Wazzzup..
I didn't need to separate myself from being dependent on my parents..
I sought their direction..
It's seems this is more cultural than a natural progression.
Well in Taiwan (that's where you're from right?) its not natural to rebel against ones parents, but in Canada it is probably natural to rebel a bit. It may even be healthy in the long run, she is less likely to want to live at home in her twenties like a lot (too many) western children do these days, and being a bit more aggressive and independent may serve her well in the working world.
As long as she isnt acting out through drugs, drinking, or promiscuity, everything will probably work itself out for the best.
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Well in Taiwan (that's where you're from right?) its not natural to rebel against ones parents, but in Canada it is probably natural to rebel a bit. It may even be healthy in the long run, she is less likely to want to live at home in her twenties like a lot (too many) western children do these days, and being a bit more aggressive and independent may serve her well in the working world.
As long as she isnt acting out through drugs, drinking, or promiscuity, everything will probably work itself out for the best.
Yes, I'm from Taiwan..
Perhaps, you are right Wazzzup..
She's not a Taiwanese young lady, she's a Western young lady, both in appearance and socialization..
My husband who is Caucasian encourages her independent streak, so I shouldn't be surprised that's how she is developing..
I'm not necessarily unhappy about this, but it very different from my relationship with my parents when I was sixteen.
Sons are far easier to raise than daughters..
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Well in Taiwan (that's where you're from right?) its not natural to rebel against ones parents, but in Canada it is probably natural to rebel a bit. It may even be healthy in the long run, she is less likely to want to live at home in her twenties like a lot (too many) western children do these days, and being a bit more aggressive and independent may serve her well in the working world.
As long as she isnt acting out through drugs, drinking, or promiscuity, everything will probably work itself out for the best.
Yes, I'm from Taiwan..
Perhaps, you are right Wazzzup..
She's not a Taiwanese young lady, she's a Western young lady, both in appearance and socialization..
My husband who is Caucasian encourages her independent streak, so I shouldn't be surprised that's how she is developing..
I'm not necessarily unhappy about this, but it very different from my relationship with my parents when I was sixteen.
So in Taiwan, if teenagers don't feel like they want their independence, how do parents get them out of the house when its time?
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So in Taiwan, if teenagers don't feel like they want their independence, how do parents get them out of the house when its time?
They get married..
Much like Japan and Korea, it's not uncommon for people to live with their parents into their thirties nowadays..
It was different a generation ago when Taiwanese married younger..
They are usually well educated, have good jobs, lots of disposable income(thanks to their parents paying all their living expenses), travel the world and buy the latest fashions..
What's funny, is they think they are independent because they are not tied down to a spouse and children.
:laugh:
My sons are half caucasoid and half mongoloid and they are just fine, if I may say so. The girls, my goodness, they want to sleep over and such. Incredible. I'm happy to say my sons are proud of both their Filipino roots and their Viking roots.
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Azhya, how nice to see you and Merry Christmas..
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Yes, Filipinos tend to adapt to be closer to Western cultural norms than Taiwanese.
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I don't mean just the physical as it's obvious that she is not pure East Asian, her father's DNA came through..
She has a Western independent streak..
I obeyed my parents without question and sought their guidance and wisdom..
My daughter questions me and has her own plans for her own future..
My husband thinks it's natural, but he is a Dutch Canadian..
It's just so different to the way my brother and I were raised in Taiwanese immigrant family.
You married a laowai. The Chink link has been broken. You knew you can't expect to build an East Asian kid out of only half the ingredients.
Same to you, Fash.
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My grandmother used to call people she deemed were unappealing as "laowai."
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You have a merry one AA. :3og2y8p:
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Was she Chinese? It's a slang word for foreigner in our language.
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You have a merry one AA. :3og2y8p:
You too, Shen! :nhl_checking: :t4204: :wootsmiley: ac_drinks
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Was she Chinese? It's a slang word for foreigner in our language.
Her mother's side was.
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You married a laowai. The Chink link has been broken. You knew you can't expect to build an East Asian kid out of only half the ingredients.
I think may have given the wrong impression..
I'm not worried about my daughter being more independent than I was at her age..
All I'm saying is that it is different than my relationship with my parents..
It's just a cultural difference between my daughter and I.
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Was she Chinese? It's a slang word for foreigner in our language.
I don't know how it's spelled phonetically but I've heard Chinese say ad da lia laow which is Australian undesirable versus
I know how to say very few things in Mandarin, da beetz.
The first one is off, but the second is pretty close with the pinyin.
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You married a laowai. The Chink link has been broken. You knew you can't expect to build an East Asian kid out of only half the ingredients.
I think may have given the wrong impression..
I'm not worried about my daughter being more independent than I was at her age..
All I'm saying is that it is different than my relationship with my parents..
It's just a cultural difference between my daughter and I.
It seems perfectly normal to me.
I learned from conversation not the written word. I've been told that my accentuation sounds almost mainland local.
Unfortunately I've forgotten most of it and can only say about a dozen things.
She's 16, so right now she'll probably do what she wants anyhow, whether you like it or not.
She'll eventually go one of two ways... Becoming successful at something that SHE likes, or meeting a loser, popping out a kid, and living on welfare for the rest of her life.
Understand, Fash, that what she does, is not so dependent on her upbringing... It's dependent on her genes. Her DNA.
Her DNA will determine her path in life more than anything you could have done.
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She'll eventually go one of two ways... Becoming successful at something that SHE likes, or meeting a loser, popping out a kid, and living on welfare for the rest of her life.
Understand, Fash, that what she does, is not so dependent on her upbringing... It's dependent on her genes. Her DNA.
Her DNA will determine her path in life more than anything you could have done.
We've been through the nature vs nurture debate before.
I'm telling you what she'll do.
There's no debate.
You can send her to China for a "vacation," in an attempt to fix the problem (I know how that works, trust me), but you'd be wasting your time.
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She'll eventually go one of two ways... Becoming successful at something that SHE likes, or meeting a loser, popping out a kid, and living on welfare for the rest of her life.
Understand, Fash, that what she does, is not so dependent on her upbringing... It's dependent on her genes. Her DNA.
Her DNA will determine her path in life more than anything you could have done.
We've been through the nature vs nurture debate before.
You are a good mom and your kid will make you proud. Hey, how's her grades?
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She'll eventually go one of two ways... Becoming successful at something that SHE likes, or meeting a loser, popping out a kid, and living on welfare for the rest of her life.
Understand, Fash, that what she does, is not so dependent on her upbringing... It's dependent on her genes. Her DNA.
Her DNA will determine her path in life more than anything you could have done.
We've been through the nature vs nurture debate before.
You are a good mom and your kid will make you proud. Hey,
She's near the top of grade 11 students at her school..
By comparison, my son has to work harder to achieve good marks.
They will do what they do, Fash.
And Fash, I want to make it CLEAR that there are no "cultural differences" between you and your daughter...
YOU gave birth to your children in Canada, so I do not see how there can be a sudden 'culture clash.'
When I'm fucking Diktator of Canada, there will be changes...
Fash is going to soon realize, why I REFUSE to have children, and also REFUSE to date women with children.
Fash will soon understand the reasons, and will perhaps be more understanding to my desires.
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YOU gave birth to your children in Canada, so I do not see how there can be a sudden 'culture clash.'
Mel do you really have to even control how ppl raise their kids? As much as I dislike multiculturalism too as in celebrating different 3rd world events and holidays, the method of raising a child already has the lease related to cultures that affects Canadians, plus Chinese and East Indians of raising a child is considered a feat when compared to how the West gives way too much freedom for their kids.
I don't get why Mel is stirring Fash about her mixed race and culture teen. The girl would have the best of both worlds and should balance out to produce a good natured, family oriented, and independent beautiful young adult.
Women think with their vaginas...
Teenage grind themselves on bad boys like horny cats.
You need to make her wear a chastity belt.
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YOU gave birth to your children in Canada, so I do not see how there can be a sudden 'culture clash.'
Mel do you really have to even control how ppl raise their kids? As much as I dislike multiculturalism too as in celebrating different 3rd world events and holidays, the method of raising a child already has the lease related to cultures that affects Canadians, plus Chinese and East Indians of raising a child is considered a feat when compared to how the West gives way too much freedom for their kids.
I totally understand what Fash is saying. But, the thread has been hijacked by two drunken assholes. And this time, one of them is not Herman.
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So in Taiwan, if teenagers don't feel like they want their independence, how do parents get them out of the house when its time?
They get married..
Much like Japan and Korea, it's not uncommon for people to live with their parents into their thirties nowadays..
It was different a generation ago when Taiwanese married younger..
They are usually well educated, have good jobs, lots of disposable income(thanks to their parents paying all their living expenses), travel the world and buy the latest fashions..
What's funny, is they think they are independent because they are not tied down to a spouse and children.
:laugh:
It looks like it works itself out. They honor their parents more and stay with them much longer in a semidependent way, but it doesn't harm their ambition or success. Whereas many western kids leave the house at 18, visit home during college and then move out to do their own thing in their early twenties.
There are exceptions though, and they are growing. I think a lot of American millennials are living at home so they can sleep till noon and play video games all day, That's the worst of both worlds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uds7g3M-4lQ
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I like them. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egg5vakYOvM