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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 11:44:47 AM

Title: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 11:44:47 AM
Trump denies saying it.  

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/12/donald-trump-denies-saying-sh-hole-countries-priva/



But whether he said it or not, most people would probably agree that certain countries are "shithole countries." (That's why so many people want to leave them, duh)



So, I would like to challenge the foaming mouthed media trump haters that think that Haiti and El Salvador are not "shithole countries" to pick one and go live in it for a year, and then after that time has passed, come back and tell us if they still think its not a shithole country.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 12:16:28 PM
Two GOP senators say they don't recall Trump's 'shithole' comment at White House meeting

 http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-two-gop-senators-don-t-recall-trump-s-1515781695-htmlstory.html



He still MAY (emphasis on MAY) have said it, BUT I should have known better than to take the lying shithole media's word for it.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2018, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Two GOP senators say they don't recall Trump's 'shithole' comment at White House meeting

 http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-two-gop-senators-don-t-recall-trump-s-1515781695-htmlstory.html



He still MAY (emphasis on MAY) have said it, BUT I should have known better than to take the lying shithole media's word for it.

I was immediately repulsed by Trump's comments about developing nations..



But, if he didn't say that, I just lost all of what little remaining respect I had for the media.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2018, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Two GOP senators say they don't recall Trump's 'shithole' comment at White House meeting

 http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-two-gop-senators-don-t-recall-trump-s-1515781695-htmlstory.html



He still MAY (emphasis on MAY) have said it, BUT I should have known better than to take the lying shithole media's word for it.

I was immediately repulsed by Trump's comments about developing nations..



But, if he didn't say that, I just lost all of what little remaining respect I had for the media.

If he did say it, they are taking his comments out of context just like they did when Trump was talking about the handicapped reporter.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2018, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I was immediately repulsed by Trump's comments about developing nations...


See, here's a problem.



The term "developing nations" is a complete misnomer.



They are NOT developing. That is why their citizens are running off to other countries that have done the heavy lifting of nation building.



Any "undeveloped" country now is either stagnant or sliding backwards. The principle of migration is now flawed...where once it was a benefit to all.



But like all of humanity's good ideas, it becomes exploited and corrupted to the point it becomes a bane, not a boon.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 12, 2018, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
I was immediately repulsed by Trump's comments about developing nations...


See, here's a problem.



The term "developing nations" is a complete misnomer.



They are NOT developing. That is why their citizens are running off to other countries that have done the heavy lifting of nation building.



Any "undeveloped" country now is either stagnant or sliding backwards. The principle of migration is now flawed...where once it was a benefit to all.



But like all of humanity's good ideas, it becomes exploited and corrupted to the point it becomes a bane, not a boon.

Best post. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 12, 2018, 07:42:23 PM
Just tell it like it is, folks. There are shithole countries.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2018, 07:58:31 PM
Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Uganda, Angola, Burma, New Guinea, Columbia, Guatamela, Venezuala, Albania, Greece, Bosnia, Slovakia, Uzbeckistan, Georgia, Turkmenistan, North Korea, Cuba...the list goes on.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Just tell it like it is, folks. There are shithole countries.

There was a time when people said that about the Philippines where you are from or Taiwan where I'm from..



Good immigrants can come from dysfunctional states.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 10:35:26 PM
yes there are shithole countries.  Most of that has to do with the terrible governments in charge of them not necessaritly the people who live there.



However, to assess something like how certain groups integrate into western societies one should look at statistics. For instance Sudanese and Somalis in Australia commit 5 times the violent crime other Australians do.  Therefore Australia (and perhaps other places) should shut their doors to the Sudanese and Somalis.   or at the very least bring in only a very very small number, and make certain they are highly educated.



We need to be reality correct, not politically correct when we assess group behavior.  People from different places often DO behave differently.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
That is the essence of trumps frustration and I very much share it.  many of the people the US has been bringing in for year have been making the US a worse country not a better country.  We need to start thinking about what's good for US first, not what's good for everybody else.



Immigration should not be just a charity system (or worse a way for leftists parties to build a bigger voter base) It should benefit the host country first and foremost.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2018, 10:40:54 PM
You omit the numbers in relation to Lebanese migrants, who are also over-represented in crime statistics. Also aborigines.



Drug importers and dealers are more likely to be Asian than white.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"You omit the numbers in relation to Lebanese migrants, who are also over-represented in crime statistics. Also aborigines.



Drug importers and dealers are more likely to be Asian than white.


So what do you suggest Brick?  Should certain people from certain places not be allowed in Western countries?  that's basically what I would suggest.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 12, 2018, 11:05:22 PM
I am not qualified to draw reasoned, empirical conclusions. However, it appears to me that in no place on earth do two or more races exist peacefully and co-operatively.



Some may do it better than others, but it could be argued that racism is an inherent human attribute.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 12, 2018, 11:16:41 PM
BTW Along that line I saw someone post this on another website about trumps comments, and it pertains to the racial matter.


Quoteliberals living behind walls in gated communities and sending their kids to private schools, shouldn't cast stones at those who simply point out what they themselves are seeking to avoid (the shitholes outside of their gated communities)


I am certainly no liberal but I live in an area where the average house costs triple what a house in the inner city would cost.  Basically I live behind an economic wall that keeps dangerous people out.  (sorry to say most are black with a little bit of hispanic thrown in, but that is reality)



The irony is that a lot of liberals who praise diversity, who would excoriate anyone saying anything bad about black culture in the inner city, nearly all live behind an economic wall that seperates them from most of the diversity they profess to loves so much.  



I guess Its much easier to be against prejudice and all the rest when you live in an ivory tower far away, where none of it effects you.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 12, 2018, 11:20:11 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Just tell it like it is, folks. There are shithole countries.

There was a time when people said that about the Philippines where you are from or Taiwan where I'm from..



Good immigrants can come from dysfunctional states.


So, what is your point, Fash? I know that and parts of it can be described as shithole while there are beautiful parts too. No one said good immigrants cannot come from dysfunctional states. Plainly speaking, there are shithole countries, period.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 13, 2018, 12:36:52 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"yes there are shithole countries.  Most of that has to do with the terrible governments in charge of them not necessaritly the people who live there.



However, to assess something like how certain groups integrate into western societies one should look at statistics. For instance Sudanese and Somalis in Australia commit 5 times the violent crime other Australians do.  Therefore Australia (and perhaps other places) should shut their doors to the Sudanese and Somalis.   or at the very least bring in only a very very small number, and make certain they are highly educated.



We need to be reality correct, not politically correct when we assess group behavior.  People from different places often DO behave differently.

Somalis are over represented in crime stats in Canada too. Even Africans who come here as skilled immigrants all too often have fake credentials or even fake identities.



Sorry, immigration is not charity. There are too many great candidates from Asia, Europe and Latin America to take risks on Africa and the Middle East. But, I still say immigration should be reduced 85 per cent.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 13, 2018, 12:55:01 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"BTW Along that line I saw someone post this on another website about trumps comments, and it pertains to the racial matter.


Quoteliberals living behind walls in gated communities and sending their kids to private schools, shouldn't cast stones at those who simply point out what they themselves are seeking to avoid (the shitholes outside of their gated communities)


I am certainly no liberal but I live in an area where the average house costs triple what a house in the inner city would cost.  Basically I live behind an economic wall that keeps dangerous people out.  (sorry to say most are black with a little bit of hispanic thrown in, but that is reality)



The irony is that a lot of liberals who praise diversity, who would excoriate anyone saying anything bad about black culture in the inner city, nearly all live behind an economic wall that seperates them from most of the diversity they profess to loves so much.  



I guess Its much easier to be against prejudice and all the rest when you live in an ivory tower far away, where none of it effects you.

Rich progs who dictate their 'opposition to diversity is hate' should have to walk the walk. They must live and work inside the worst no go zones of cities like Marseille, Brussels, London, and Malmo.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Just tell it like it is, folks. There are shithole countries.

There was a time when people said that about the Philippines where you are from or Taiwan where I'm from..



Good immigrants can come from dysfunctional states.


So, what is your point, Fash? I know that and parts of it can be described as shithole while there are beautiful parts too. No one said good immigrants cannot come from dysfunctional states. Plainly speaking, there are shithole countries, period.

That you and I would be in the Philippines and Taiwan respectively if that was the prevailing wisdom at the time we came here.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 01:32:06 AM
Is there any way to be fair to everyone though,  no, I don't think so.



for example--Canada uses a point system, it is certainly possible that a good person could be turned away for having low points? right?



the purpose of any system, other then "let everybody in who wants in," is to guage who is likely to be an asset instead of a detriment.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 02:23:23 AM
BTW A little more info on the shitholegate scandal has come in--



Hillary Clinton Blasts Trump's 'Ignorant, Racist Views' About Haiti, Forgets That she and her Husband Ripped Off Haitians

https://www.weaselzippers.us/370980-hillary-clinton-blasts-trumps-ignorant-racist-views-about-haiti-forgets-ripping-off-haitians/



Two Years ago Obama Called Libya A 'Shit Show'

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/12/flashback-that-time-obama-called-libya-a-st-show/
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Odinson on January 13, 2018, 07:47:08 AM
Technically the countries he mentioned are shitholes...



They arent "developing countries".



Developing means that they are developing on their own...





They are an inch away from blowing themselves to pieces.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Is there any way to be fair to everyone though,  no, I don't think so.



for example--Canada uses a point system, it is certainly possible that a good person could be turned away for having low points? right?



the purpose of any system, other then "let everybody in who wants in," is to guage who is likely to be an asset instead of a detriment.

Okay, I give up.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Just tell it like it is, folks. There are shithole countries.

Yep!!
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Zetsu on January 13, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Lol I dun blame Trump for calling those countries shitholes, even Hong Kong as vibrant as it looks to people that never lived there, imho that city is what I would consider as another shithole, if it wasn't for my family living there, I wouldn't shed a single tear if one day the US or mainland China decided to nuke that place.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
I've never thought of HK as a shithole.



Crammed, busy, noisy and maybe a little ramshackle in places, its still a vibrant and interesting part of the world.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 08:24:57 PM
Oh come on. Every place has a shithole. It does not bother me when people say the Philippines is a shithole. I've been there. I know the places that look like shitholes and then I know of the beautiful places that exist there too.



Hong Kong has many nice areas but it sure has shitholes too.



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Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
Parts of the US are shitholes.  Detroit is known for being a shithole.  Parts of Chicago and other major cities in the US are shitholes.



Most of them are cities with a long history of democrat control.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That you and I would be in the Philippines and Taiwan respectively if that was the prevailing wisdom at the time we came here.


I disagree. At the time we came here to the West, there were westerners then who already considered Philippines and Taiwan as shitholes. This is not a new concept just because Trump said it recently. This is something many westerners already believed to be true from time immemorial.



It's like Trump's comment about someone being a lightweight. These "shithole" countries he was referring to are countries that basically are lightweight countries. They are not the "heavy" countries that can make a significant contribution to the broader world because they do not have the wherewithal. They have other resources but not parallel to the USA and the other heavy weight countries. Mind you, I do know that the Philippines is slowly catching up to the heavy weight countries but it still has a long way to go.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Parts of the US are shitholes.  Detroit is known for being a shithole.  Parts of Chicago and other major cities in the US are shitholes.



Most of them are cities with a long history of democrat control.


Of course. That is what I meant. Every place has shitholes that's why it is not necessary to overreact to Trump's comments because he's generalizing and I'm sure he knows that the US too has its own shitholes and Vancouver too, haha.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 08:50:54 PM
Instead of wanting an apology from Trump about his comment about shithole countries, people need to look around their surroundings and get real. Maybe they need to work harder at getting things done in their countries.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 08:54:07 PM
What did not sit well with me is his comment about why not let more people in from Norway. I do not agree with that at all. I don't like that comment at all. Norwegians are just like the rest of us too. They are not better or worse but probably they have something that is working out very well for their people and that is admirable.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2018, 10:50:34 PM
Anyone care to guess the countries these images are from?



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Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 11:02:41 PM
Where are these from



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seems we all have our shithole areas, even the best countries.  At least most of the rest of these countries are great places to live.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 13, 2018, 11:10:01 PM
Trump was thinking out loud at a behind closed doors meeting. Something along the lines of--  Why is America's iimmigarion system for charity only and leads to more people on welfare and in trouble with the law, whereas Australias and Canadas make for a better and more educated citizenry. And how can it be fixed.



Trumps motivation in my opinion is the same as many of us--stop making Americas immigration system a detriment to the country that only helps the democrat party get more votes.  If we don't fix this we aren't going to make it.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 11:12:29 PM
:laugh3:



Australia's shithole.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 13, 2018, 11:17:10 PM
A Sydney shithole.



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Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Frood on January 13, 2018, 11:29:53 PM
Redfern
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 13, 2018, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Anyone care to guess the countries these images are from?



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They are all from the US.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 14, 2018, 12:59:35 AM
Lets cut to the nub of it--Most white western countries have a troubled population that often lives at least partially in squalor.



In Aus its the aborigines, in the US its blacks and Hispanics, in Canada its First nations canadians.



So the theory goes-if these poplulations arent doing well, then white people must really be picking on them.  **But whoops** along come Asians, many of which do better than white people, blowing the theory to pieces.  



I don't know why all this is the case, but it is.  I wish the world could admit that and work from there,. but instead we are always trying to hide this reality because  many people don't want to face it.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Lance Leftardashian on January 14, 2018, 01:17:57 AM
These countries are only suffering due to European exploitation.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 01:19:12 AM
QuoteCountries suck or not because of the aggregate nature of the people who created them. If we left out the people Haiti would be a much more pleasant place than Norway. Haiti was a tropical paradise with sunny beaches, arable land, forests, and mineral wealth. Norway has some big forests but is an icy country where the sun barely comes up in the winter. Haiti sucks because it had the misfortune to be settled by Africans, while Norway doesn't suck because it was settled by Europeans.


Trump was not wrong, although he could have just called them the PC version of shithole nations = third world.



I call them shitholes also, because that is what they are.  Most people call them shitholes, because that is what they are.  LIBERALS, when asked if they would like to move to Haiti, usually refuse to answer the question.



Read my quote, and understand WHY these places are shitholes, and will ALWAYS be shitholes.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 14, 2018, 01:44:23 AM
Trump knows just like most of us, that if he takes in Haitian and African immigrants, that many of them will end up in jails, dependent on government and part of Americas underclass.  Like any person who cares about their country, Trump wants people to come here who will make it better not worse.  And he is frustrated that this seems so difficult to get done.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Trump knows just like most of us, that if he takes in Haitian and African immigrants, that many of them will end up in jails, dependent on government and part of Americas underclass.  Like any person who cares about their country, Trump wants people to come here who will make it better not worse.  And he is frustrated that this seems so difficult to get done.

I didn't think, that in my lifetime, I would see a battle against Western Nations like I'm seeing now.  



I know...  THEY fucking hate us, trust me.  Some Somali?  THEY fucking hate us, just like Africa hates South African Whites.



Yet, we let them in, until they can completely take over.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 02:10:09 AM
I KNOW how different races react.  I KNOW Asians may not like Whites, or Arabs, or vica versa.



I KNOW the human nature.  I am a realist, that isn't hampered by religion or educational 'teachings.'



I WISH it was different, but it can never be!



I KNOW the Indians hate us.



It DOESN'T fucking matter what you do, different races of people stick to their own, and do what they do.



They DO NOT like Whitey.  NONE of them do.



We must understand this, before we flood ourselves to death with immigrants.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 02:13:23 AM
However, our biggest enemy is ourselves...  White people are their own greatest enemy, and this is only a recent phenomenon...
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Angry White Male on January 14, 2018, 02:30:47 AM
I'll explain why:



The reason White people have managed to do what they do, is due to their fierce independence...  They don't stick together, and have no qualms about setting out sail for an Island that may not even exist.



White people do this.  They will take this risk, disregarding family back home.



ALL other cultures come in "packs"...  They cannot do what White man does, on their own.



Now that independent White man has set up nice nations, non-white 'packs' want a little piece of the pie.



They are permitted to enter, and to do as they will...



They often recreate the same shithole that they are escaping from...  And they do it in "packs."



White people are not allowed to associate anymore in group form, since that would be deemed a "Klan Meeting."



Blacks are encouraged to associate with one another in group form, usually leading to nothing good.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 15, 2018, 07:57:09 PM
Just FYI it is still very much in question what Trump actually said



This Republican senator is adament that Trump didn't say it


QuoteRepublican Senator David Perdue of Georgia came to President Trump's defense Sunday after he said reports of the president's choice of words during a meeting on immigration last week were "a gross misrepresentation."



Speaking to ABC News' George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," Perdue slammed reports that Trump used the word "s---hole" to reference Haiti and Africa during a bipartisan immigration meeting on Thursday.



"I'm telling you he did not use that word, George," Perdue said. "And I'm telling you it's a gross misrepresentation."


This other republican agrees trump didn't say it


QuoteSen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., had released a joint statement on Friday with Perdue, denying the offensive language.


Dick Dirtbag Durbin, super lefty extremist says


Quote"He said these hate-filled things, and he said them repeatedly," Durbin told reporters, calling the words "vile and racist."


There were six people in the room the only one who specifically said that Trump said this is Dirtbag Durbin


Quote"There were six of us in the room," Perdue said. "I haven't heard any of those six sources other than Senator Durbin talk about what was said."


Dirtbag Durbin has lied before about  this exact kind of story


QuoteThe senator was referencing a 2013 incident when Durbin said in a Facebook post that a House Republican told then-President Barack Obama, "I cannot even stand to look at you," during a meeting.



The White House and House speaker's office later denied that these claims were true, Politico reported.


based on that I would say it is in doubt what Trump actually said.  And dirtbag Durbin is a most likely a lying tattletale.  This is what Trump gets for trying to deal with democrats who he should have just shut out of the process from the beginning which is exactly what Obama did to republicans.



Hopefully this is the end of the DACA CACA charade.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 15, 2018, 08:13:32 PM
It doesn't matter, most Americans believe Dirtbag Durbin.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 15, 2018, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: "mugwump"It doesn't matter, most Americans believe Dirtbag Durbin.


True. the little tattle tale , Dick Dirtbag,  whether lying or not, got his mission accomplished



I know that no matter what was said, Trump wants to make a better America, and he is friustrated that, because of political correctness, and democrat party games, we are expected to take in all kinds of immigrants who are going to make America worse and not better.



We really should adopt a Canadian style system with points.  Also--Lower the rate of people coming in, and keep people from most Muslim countries out.  To me that would be the ideal solution.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 15, 2018, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"It doesn't matter, most Americans believe Dirtbag Durbin.


True. the little tattle tale , Dick Dirtbag,  whether lying or not, got his mission accomplished



I know that no matter what was said, Trump wants to make a better America, and he is friustrated that, because of political correctness, and democrat party games, we are expected to take in all kinds of immigrants who are going to make America worse and not better.



We really should adopt a Canadian style system with points.  Also--Lower the rate of people coming in, and keep people from most Muslim countries out.  To me that would be the ideal solution.

I remember seeing the reaction when Trump floated the idea of an Australian and Canadian style points system. There are points for speaking English.  So, a Democrat said that only  immigrants from Great Britain or Australia need apply. I guess he doesn't know English is a universal language.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 16, 2018, 12:46:43 PM
Quote from: "mugwump"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"It doesn't matter, most Americans believe Dirtbag Durbin.


True. the little tattle tale , Dick Dirtbag,  whether lying or not, got his mission accomplished



I know that no matter what was said, Trump wants to make a better America, and he is friustrated that, because of political correctness, and democrat party games, we are expected to take in all kinds of immigrants who are going to make America worse and not better.



We really should adopt a Canadian style system with points.  Also--Lower the rate of people coming in, and keep people from most Muslim countries out.  To me that would be the ideal solution.

I remember seeing the reaction when Trump floated the idea of an Australian and Canadian style points system. There are points for speaking English.  So, a Democrat said that only  immigrants from Great Britain or Australia need apply. I guess he doesn't know English is a universal language.


Yep a dummycrat :laugh: .  BTW I saw that trump was talking about a points system back in August but have not seen mention of it since.  i don't know if he dropped ot or not and why.



I think a points syustem is a great idea, if Trump tried to implement it and the dems cried racism (which you know they would) he could just tell them to take it up with Australia and Canada.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 16, 2018, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"It doesn't matter, most Americans believe Dirtbag Durbin.


True. the little tattle tale , Dick Dirtbag,  whether lying or not, got his mission accomplished



I know that no matter what was said, Trump wants to make a better America, and he is friustrated that, because of political correctness, and democrat party games, we are expected to take in all kinds of immigrants who are going to make America worse and not better.



We really should adopt a Canadian style system with points.  Also--Lower the rate of people coming in, and keep people from most Muslim countries out.  To me that would be the ideal solution.

I remember seeing the reaction when Trump floated the idea of an Australian and Canadian style points system. There are points for speaking English.  So, a Democrat said that only  immigrants from Great Britain or Australia need apply. I guess he doesn't know English is a universal language.


Yep a dummycrat :laugh: .  BTW I saw that trump was talking about a points system back in August but have not seen mention of it since.  i don't know if he dropped ot or not and why.



I think a points syustem is a great idea, if Trump tried to implement it and the dems cried racism (which you know they would) he could just tell them to take it up with Australia and Canada.

It's hard to believe the United States doesn't have a points based immigration system.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 16, 2018, 12:52:31 PM
Quote from: "mugwump"
It's hard to believe the United States doesn't have a points based immigration system.
  Most countries don't from what I can tell.  But yeah we'll let anyone in, unless they are proven criminals (and many of those sneak in anyway).  Its crazy.  But the democrat party loves it, they want a permanent underclass coming in to vote them in and give them monopolies on power like they have in California. Anything less would be waycist!



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BTW This shows perfectly exactly how the left, media and democrat party operate in America





http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/01/15/schumer-to-trump-you-can-begin-to-prove-youre-not-racist-or-bigoted-by-supporting-bipartisan-immigration-compromise/



In other words they are going call people racist, and the only way you can buy your way out  of it, is to do what they want politically.  yep race card blackmail, and using the American immigration system as a political weapon.  That's the America democrat party.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 16, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"This shows perfectly exactly how the left, media and democrat party operate in America



Schumer to Trump: You Can Begin to Prove You're Not Racist or Bigoted By Supporting Bipartisan Immigration Compromise

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/01/15/schumer-to-trump-you-can-begin-to-prove-youre-not-racist-or-bigoted-by-supporting-bipartisan-immigration-compromise/



In other words they are going call people racist, and the only way you can buy your way out  of it, is to do what they want politically.  yep race card blackmail, that's

the favorite tactic of the modern democrat party.

I saw that on ABC news.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 17, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
Regarding Haiti, It should be noted what Rand paul said about Trump--



"and it's unfair to all of a sudden paint him as 'he's a racist' when I know for a fact he cares very deeply about the people in Haiti because he (Trump) helped finance a trip where we were able to get vision back for 200 people in Haiti," Paul concluded.[/quote]

Versus what the clintons did to Haiti--



It filtered money through Haiti and back to itself.[/quote]

But I guess words matter more than deeds.  Because most of the leftists screaming Waycist about Trumps shithole comment, had nothing to say about the rich white Clintons stealing money from poor black people in Haiti.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2018, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Regarding Haiti, It should be noted what Rand paul said about Trump--



"and it's unfair to all of a sudden paint him as 'he's a racist' when I know for a fact he cares very deeply about the people in Haiti because he (Trump) helped finance a trip where we were able to get vision back for 200 people in Haiti," Paul concluded.


Versus what the clintons did to Haiti--



It filtered money through Haiti and back to itself.[/quote]

But I guess words matter more than deeds.  Because most of the leftists screaming Waycist about Trumps shithole comment, had nothing to say about the rich white Clintons stealing money from poor black people in Haiti.[/quote]
The Clintons are covered in teflon. But, how did two hundred people in Haiti get their vision back? Did Trump pay for Christ's trip to the island?
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2018, 06:11:42 PM
Cataract surgery. People in poor countries with poor diets often suffer from cataracts. Its a 20 minute fix.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 17, 2018, 08:02:36 PM
Shithole countries.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Bricktop on January 17, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
Shithole countries I have visited;



India.

Sri Lanka.

Yemen.

Egypt.

Malaysia.





Either underdeveloped, poorly governed, corrupt or all of the above.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 17, 2018, 08:30:54 PM
Philippines is a shithole country but I do know that some of our resorts are very much visited by Westerners. Sadly, there were tragic cases as well such as kidnappings and murder cases. The Philippines is also trying to catch up to Uncle Sam and Canada. We have many Filipinos shuttling back and forth between the Philippines and the States and Canada even Australia and they strive to bring home what they learn from abroad.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 17, 2018, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: "Azhya Aryola"Philippines is a shithole country but I do know that some of our resorts are very much visited by Westerners. Sadly, there were tragic cases as well such as kidnappings and murder cases. The Philippines is also trying to catch up to Uncle Sam and Canada. We have many Filipinos shuttling back and forth between the Philippines and the States and Canada even Australia and they strive to bring home what they learn from abroad.

I would like immigration to Canada cut by over 90 per cent. But, of the 25,000 immigrants a year and zero  refugees that I would allow into Canada, the Philippines would be a good source. My city has the largest percentage of Filipinos in Canada. They assimilate well and contribute a lot.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 18, 2018, 12:25:23 AM
The MSN poll found that 51 percent of respondents did not think the president's comments were racist, while 48 percent disagreed. One percent were undecided.



Predictably, an individual's party was the biggest predictor of how they answered. Eighty-three percent of respondents who claimed racism were Democrats, while only 10 percent of Republicans deemed the remark racist.[/quote]
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 18, 2018, 12:32:49 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"The MSN poll found that 51 percent of respondents did not think the president's comments were racist, while 48 percent disagreed. One percent were undecided.



Predictably, an individual's party was the biggest predictor of how they answered. Eighty-three percent of respondents who claimed racism were Democrats, while only 10 percent of Republicans deemed the remark racist.
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Using an expletive to describe a dysfunctional state, even if it did happen, is not racism. End of story.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 18, 2018, 12:47:20 AM
Quote from: "mugwump"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"The MSN poll found that 51 percent of respondents did not think the president's comments were racist, while 48 percent disagreed. One percent were undecided.



Predictably, an individual's party was the biggest predictor of how they answered. Eighty-three percent of respondents who claimed racism were Democrats, while only 10 percent of Republicans deemed the remark racist.

Using an expletive to describe a dysfunctional state, even if it did happen, is not racism. End of story.[/quote]
I agree, it might not be polite but it is often true.  I bet a lot of these people who think its racism have called places shitholes (like detroit).  they just hate Trump and want to try and get him any way they can, this is just the latest trick in the trickbook.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 18, 2018, 01:02:33 AM
I should do a search for hypocritical American progs who have also used expletives to describe places on a map.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Frood on January 18, 2018, 01:04:07 AM
Quote from: "mugwump"I should do a search for hypocritical American progs who have also used expletives to describe places on a map.




There have been some recent articles about past expletives by leaders in different parties.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 18, 2018, 01:07:14 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "mugwump"I should do a search for hypocritical American progs who have also used expletives to describe places on a map.




There have been some recent articles about past expletives by leaders in different parties.

If you have the time, I'd appreciate it if you posted a link or two. I'll take a look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 19, 2018, 12:01:04 AM
I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 19, 2018, 12:16:20 AM
Quote from: "mugwump"I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.


Obama called Libya a "shitshow."  That's sort of close.



I bet some have used that term. Just no one took note of it.  



Like most things, Its only a big deal when Trump does it.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: mugwump on January 19, 2018, 12:46:08 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.


Obama called Libya a "shitshow."  That's sort of close.



I bet some have used that term. Just no one took note of it.  



Like most things, Its only a big deal when Trump does it.

Great, thanks buddy. I need something for a guy I work with who's been brainwashed by the liberal billionaire owned media.
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 19, 2018, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: "mugwump"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.


Obama called Libya a "shitshow."  That's sort of close.



I bet some have used that term. Just no one took note of it.  



Like most things, Its only a big deal when Trump does it.

Great, thanks buddy. I need something for a guy I work with who's been brainwashed by the liberal billionaire owned media.


Always glad to help,  especially for a good cause :thumbup:
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2018, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.


Obama called Libya a "shitshow."  That's sort of close.



I bet some have used that term. Just no one took note of it.  



Like most things, Its only a big deal when Trump does it.

Where was Durbin's outrage?
Title: Re: Trump's Sh**hole Countries comment
Post by: Wazzzup on January 21, 2018, 07:33:32 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "mugwump"I can't find any examples of progtards using the same expletive that Trump is alleged to have said.


Obama called Libya a "shitshow."  That's sort of close.



I bet some have used that term. Just no one took note of it.  



Like most things, Its only a big deal when Trump does it.

Where was Durbin's outrage?

conveniently missing, of course.



The democrats have nothing real to offer the voters, so any chance they get they smear trump as a racist.
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